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On June 17 2015 08:52 GlowingBear wrote:ANOTHER PRELIMINARY READ LIST OF THE FIRST HOURS OF THE GAME Probs townKelsier Breshke LS Nydus(?) Probs mafaiOnegu Boxerfred Bugs Ritoky Someone I want to spank for treating me bad  Rsoultin
you also made this list of posts after the claim had already occurred which seperates both Onegu AND Kelsier which means you don't even believe it to begin with
checkmate mafiabear now plz just roll over
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whoops quoted wrong list
+ Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:Actual Listpost v1.0 Probs town- Holyflare (not posting + ninja vote on Bill Murray isn't a thing I see scumFlare comfortable at doing)
- Damdred (tone reading, looks like town, fluid posts)
- NydusHerMain(? need to keep an eye on him because when he got universally townread he stopped caring and just
- came back to comment on posts that cited him, which is mafia indicative)
- Kelsier (? need to keep an eye on him because he oddly tried to disrupt town while throwing suspicions on LS without actually trying to convince thread with strong arguments)
- ritoky (trolled but jumped on rsoultin as a clear reaction to thread direction, not a strong read but could me town
- Breshke (thinking critically about the game)
- LS (a lot of activity early game, enough to grant him a day1 pass IMO)
Null- rsoultin (not caring for her today)
- Bill Murray (could lynch pls)
- Bugs (some of his approach looks scummy, some others look townie - in other words, I like that he pushes rsoultin but I dislike his unawareness of the rest of the thread - last game he was reacting to mostly everything but here he is tunneling rsoultin, which is a very easy behaviour for scum to adopt)
- Fidei (meh)
- Mig (who?)
Probs Mafia- Onegu (unnecessary need to claim VT ESPECIALLY after he was scumread for not claiming VT in a previous game + meta: town onegu is lazy and I don't see him giving himself the trouble to going into another game to paste an opening where he claimed VT as town + Onegu prefers playing as scum and he was too excited for rolling VT, meanwhile in the other game he was extremely upset he rolled VT)
- boxerfred (opening is a joke post commenting another joke post and fucking off of the thread)
boxerfred
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On June 21 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
it clearly says i'm not masons with ksc dude are you even reading?
It clearly has hidden URL message
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On June 21 2015 03:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:52 GlowingBear wrote:ANOTHER PRELIMINARY READ LIST OF THE FIRST HOURS OF THE GAME Probs townKelsier Breshke LS Nydus(?) Probs mafaiOnegu Boxerfred Bugs Ritoky Someone I want to spank for treating me bad Rsoultin you also made this list of posts after the claim had already occurred which seperates both Onegu AND Kelsier which means you don't even believe it to begin with checkmate mafiabear now plz just roll over
You're obviously not reading the thread because I have explained all of this right at the start of day3.
I'm voting you and noone else. You can't be this bad as town. Never.
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On June 20 2015 07:16 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote:
eh he's done it before as town and ksc already negated it?
plus he said he wasn't and he was in the same post so
kinda...late to the ballgame there gb xP Why would he hidden it? I didn't bring it to surface to avoid them getting shot. But I thought that it was Onegu that claimed. That's why I flipped my read on him.
You DID NOT flip your read on him. You scum read him for ages after. I literally just fucking proved that in that list i quoted. Regardless of that it TOTALLY circumvents everything else because point 2 is far more damning. You aren't thinking about this game at all if you think that I claimed masons and there's only 1 night kill but still question whether i'm mafia or not
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There is also a roughly 0%
and i DO mean 0% chance that you got me and onegu confused
you wanna know why? because it was so fucking apparent that I hid that in the url when I posted it because me and rsoul had an entire conversation about it
if you wanna claim you thought it was onegu (how on earth would you ever think that to begin with) there's no way you missed that convo because kelsier, me, rsoul, onegu and someone else ALL talked about it
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On June 17 2015 23:52 Onegu wrote:Dont lie I am and will always be your mason. URL.
even if you got confused with onegu claiming mason it was with me
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On June 17 2015 12:46 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 12:42 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 17 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:Probs Mafia- Onegu (unnecessary need to claim VT ESPECIALLY after he was scumread for not claiming VT in a previous game + meta: town onegu is lazy and I don't see him giving himself the trouble to going into another game to paste an opening where he claimed VT as town + Onegu prefers playing as scum and he was too excited for rolling VT, meanwhile in the other game he was extremely upset he rolled VT)
- boxerfred (opening is a joke post commenting another joke post and fucking off of the thread)
boxerfred How do you have onegu as scum for that reason? It sounds like you're saying that he was scum read for not claiming VT so he didn't need to claim VT? So why shouldn't he claim VT if he's being scumread in other games for not claiming it? Also, if you think he prefers playing scum, don't you think he'd be posting a bit more than just "gosh darnit I'm VT" ? I meant that his need to claim VT right away felt like he was trying to gain towncred (as he was scumread for not claiming VT in another game), and this need to gain towncred fits better a mafia perspective than town perspective in my opinion.Actually, I decided to go re-read his filter and I've got another impression on his opening. It felt... bored. Meh. Breshke is right, my read on Onegu is weak. Rescinding the scumread now.
and you literally lied about this if you thought onegu had claimed mason
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On June 18 2015 15:20 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 15:16 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 15:16 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 15:14 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 15:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:58 ritoky wrote:
GB, any semblance of a read on VA? cuz he is kinda toward the middle of your ranking rather than "I DONT FUCKIN KNOW" territory. I can't read VA I don't trust any of his reads. I don't see an actual attempt to solve the game in his filter. But him being in the middle is because I have some kind very faint town read on people in the bottom. Which would mean you have at least a town lean on everyone else not on the list right? So what happened to this guy to make you read him town? On June 17 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:Actual Listpost v1.0 Probs town- Holyflare (not posting + ninja vote on Bill Murray isn't a thing I see scumFlare comfortable at doing)
- Damdred (tone reading, looks like town, fluid posts)
- NydusHerMain(? need to keep an eye on him because when he got universally townread he stopped caring and just
- came back to comment on posts that cited him, which is mafia indicative)
- Kelsier (? need to keep an eye on him because he oddly tried to disrupt town while throwing suspicions on LS without actually trying to convince thread with strong arguments)
- ritoky (trolled but jumped on rsoultin as a clear reaction to thread direction, not a strong read but could me town
- Breshke (thinking critically about the game)
- LS (a lot of activity early game, enough to grant him a day1 pass IMO)
Null- rsoultin (not caring for her today)
- Bill Murray (could lynch pls)
- Bugs (some of his approach looks scummy, some others look townie - in other words, I like that he pushes rsoultin but I dislike his unawareness of the rest of the thread - last game he was reacting to mostly everything but here he is tunneling rsoultin, which is a very easy behaviour for scum to adopt)
- Fidei (meh)
- Mig (who?)
Probs Mafia- Onegu (unnecessary need to claim VT ESPECIALLY after he was scumread for not claiming VT in a previous game + meta: town onegu is lazy and I don't see him giving himself the trouble to going into another game to paste an opening where he claimed VT as town + Onegu prefers playing as scum and he was too excited for rolling VT, meanwhile in the other game he was extremely upset he rolled VT)
[*]boxerfred (opening is a joke post commenting another joke post and fucking off of the thread) boxerfred On June 17 2015 13:47 GlowingBear wrote:
My Day1 PoE lynchlist (from most preferred to least preferred target)
- Bill Murray
- boxerfred
- ShoCkeyy
- VayneAuthority
- Fidei86
- Mig
- Onegu
On June 17 2015 23:57 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 23:54 Onegu wrote:
GB and NHM town : ))))) ##Vote: OneguWhat about the Onegu rule you are so excited with, that got scum twice in the latest two games you played? I've reevaluated him later, he looks like town Onegu. Why does he look like town onegu? Lazy, inactive, genuinely upset that he rolled VT.
and lied about this since he can't be genuinely upset about being a vt if you think he's a mason and the fact that you had him in your shitty poe list
etc etc etc
plz lie more
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On June 21 2015 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
There is also a roughly 0%
and i DO mean 0% chance that you got me and onegu confused
you wanna know why? because it was so fucking apparent that I hid that in the url when I posted it because me and rsoul had an entire conversation about it
if you wanna claim you thought it was onegu (how on earth would you ever think that to begin with) there's no way you missed that convo because kelsier, me, rsoul, onegu and someone else ALL talked about it
I scumread onegu, decided to filter dive him, saw a post where he wrote URL, quoted it, saw it fast in that quotation the mason claim, thought it was him, gave a reason to townread him without revealing he was mason.
I even started voting onegu today because I saw KSC isn't a mason. And you still have to explain yourself about this. Yet you try to find ANY reason to vote me today, without taking a second thought. You're clearly pushing scum agenda here.
And townies, if you stupidly mislynch me, at least see my flip and go against Holyflare. Then think about Breshke because, really, I can't understand how he could call me town comfortably in nearly day1 (said he didn't consider the last game he called me town when I was scum, but based his read on bugs all based on the last game, which makes no sense).
Then you go after Yamato who is simply not caring for the game.
Then you kill VA
Then you win the game.
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On June 21 2015 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
Well let's see why you even pushing this makes you definitely mafia:
1) You were calling me mafia day 1 and throwing it around all the entire day. You especially did this night 1 yet had no problems with Kelsier at all. This never factored into anything you ever wrote.
2) You are now using the assumption that I'm alive to paint me negatively but there was only 1 kp that went off on a 2kp night. I could have easily been the shot with Kelsier. This looks incredibly like TMI that I may have not actually been the shot.
3) useless nitpicking at points that clearly don't affect anyone's alignment
If you answer to 1) is that you thought Onegu had claimed it with Kelsier then your original scum read on Onegu and your rescinding of that look incredibly like you were giving fake reasons to change your mind on him.
1) I called you town day1. Only started scumreading you at night when you didn't drop your shitty read on me
2) I've never said that. You're straight up lying and that TMI shit is one of the most horrible arguments you could use against any player.
3) Nitpicking is arbirtrary interpretation. I've assumed my points on Breshke were weak on that case, though. Also, if my reasons are weak, I am constantly reevaluating. So, no.
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On June 21 2015 04:36 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
There is also a roughly 0%
and i DO mean 0% chance that you got me and onegu confused
you wanna know why? because it was so fucking apparent that I hid that in the url when I posted it because me and rsoul had an entire conversation about it
if you wanna claim you thought it was onegu (how on earth would you ever think that to begin with) there's no way you missed that convo because kelsier, me, rsoul, onegu and someone else ALL talked about it I scumread onegu, decided to filter dive him, saw a post where he wrote URL, quoted it, saw it fast in that quotation the mason claim, thought it was him, gave a reason to townread him without revealing he was mason. I even started voting onegu today because I saw KSC isn't a mason. And you still have to explain yourself about this. Yet you try to find ANY reason to vote me today, without taking a second thought. You're clearly pushing scum agenda here. And townies, if you stupidly mislynch me, at least see my flip and go against Holyflare. Then think about Breshke because, really, I can't understand how he could call me town comfortably in nearly day1 (said he didn't consider the last game he called me town when I was scum, but based his read on bugs all based on the last game, which makes no sense). Then you go after Yamato who is simply not caring for the game. Then you kill VA Then you win the game.
if you quoted the post where I said url. they you would know I am not a mason...
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On June 21 2015 04:36 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
There is also a roughly 0%
and i DO mean 0% chance that you got me and onegu confused
you wanna know why? because it was so fucking apparent that I hid that in the url when I posted it because me and rsoul had an entire conversation about it
if you wanna claim you thought it was onegu (how on earth would you ever think that to begin with) there's no way you missed that convo because kelsier, me, rsoul, onegu and someone else ALL talked about it I scumread onegu, decided to filter dive him, saw a post where he wrote URL, quoted it, saw it fast in that quotation the mason claim, thought it was him, gave a reason to townread him without revealing he was mason. I even started voting onegu today because I saw KSC isn't a mason. And you still have to explain yourself about this. Yet you try to find ANY reason to vote me today, without taking a second thought. You're clearly pushing scum agenda here. And townies, if you stupidly mislynch me, at least see my flip and go against Holyflare. Then think about Breshke because, really, I can't understand how he could call me town comfortably in nearly day1 (said he didn't consider the last game he called me town when I was scum, but based his read on bugs all based on the last game, which makes no sense). Then you go after Yamato who is simply not caring for the game. Then you kill VA Then you win the game.
This is precisely why everyone scum reads you. You argue argue argue about "oh woe is me how can you possibly think i'm scummy OMGUS you must be mafia" but really, 3/4 of the game are reading you as mafia. It's quite evident since you almost got lynched. Now there are multiple votes that are suspicious as fuck that make it very likely you are mafia, you have to die, no if's or buts or anything, the whole discussion is based around you. You aren't even thinking about that, you aren't thinking about anything from anyone's perspective. You push bull shit like "oh yeh totally reevaluated breshke" but that was after everyone in this entire game told you how shit that case was. Yet, here we are, and you're still pushing breshke lol.
You voted for onegu today and I took that into account with my post. You even quoted that post that had the exact line "if you really did mistake it for onegu that's bull shit because he was in your poe list still and you scum read him for ages after that". He still remained in your poe list after you "reevaluated" him. It also further shows that you were not paying attention to the game but instead skimming it to make up reads on people. You can't possibly have missed that discussion in the thread and if you did you can't have missed the fact that onegu's reply was to me, why else would you see it in a quote unless you were trying to focus on it?
You know your shot failed on me, you know you're fucked, stop posting this repeated scummy bull shit.
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On June 21 2015 04:42 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 04:36 GlowingBear wrote:On June 21 2015 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
There is also a roughly 0%
and i DO mean 0% chance that you got me and onegu confused
you wanna know why? because it was so fucking apparent that I hid that in the url when I posted it because me and rsoul had an entire conversation about it
if you wanna claim you thought it was onegu (how on earth would you ever think that to begin with) there's no way you missed that convo because kelsier, me, rsoul, onegu and someone else ALL talked about it I scumread onegu, decided to filter dive him, saw a post where he wrote URL, quoted it, saw it fast in that quotation the mason claim, thought it was him, gave a reason to townread him without revealing he was mason. I even started voting onegu today because I saw KSC isn't a mason. And you still have to explain yourself about this. Yet you try to find ANY reason to vote me today, without taking a second thought. You're clearly pushing scum agenda here. And townies, if you stupidly mislynch me, at least see my flip and go against Holyflare. Then think about Breshke because, really, I can't understand how he could call me town comfortably in nearly day1 (said he didn't consider the last game he called me town when I was scum, but based his read on bugs all based on the last game, which makes no sense). Then you go after Yamato who is simply not caring for the game. Then you kill VA Then you win the game. if you quoted the post where I said url. they you would know I am not a mason...
The post I've quoted has HF's quotation.
The thing is that I saw URL on your post and immediately went to search for it, in a very quick glance, and I thought you have claimed.
Tell me why my reaction would be that one when day2 started. Tell me why I would risk myself having this conversation right now as mafia.
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On June 21 2015 04:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 04:36 GlowingBear wrote:On June 21 2015 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
There is also a roughly 0%
and i DO mean 0% chance that you got me and onegu confused
you wanna know why? because it was so fucking apparent that I hid that in the url when I posted it because me and rsoul had an entire conversation about it
if you wanna claim you thought it was onegu (how on earth would you ever think that to begin with) there's no way you missed that convo because kelsier, me, rsoul, onegu and someone else ALL talked about it I scumread onegu, decided to filter dive him, saw a post where he wrote URL, quoted it, saw it fast in that quotation the mason claim, thought it was him, gave a reason to townread him without revealing he was mason. I even started voting onegu today because I saw KSC isn't a mason. And you still have to explain yourself about this. Yet you try to find ANY reason to vote me today, without taking a second thought. You're clearly pushing scum agenda here. And townies, if you stupidly mislynch me, at least see my flip and go against Holyflare. Then think about Breshke because, really, I can't understand how he could call me town comfortably in nearly day1 (said he didn't consider the last game he called me town when I was scum, but based his read on bugs all based on the last game, which makes no sense). Then you go after Yamato who is simply not caring for the game. Then you kill VA Then you win the game. This is precisely why everyone scum reads you. You argue argue argue about "oh woe is me how can you possibly think i'm scummy OMGUS you must be mafia" but really, 3/4 of the game are reading you as mafia. It's quite evident since you almost got lynched. Now there are multiple votes that are suspicious as fuck that make it very likely you are mafia, you have to die, no if's or buts or anything, the whole discussion is based around you. You aren't even thinking about that, you aren't thinking about anything from anyone's perspective. You push bull shit like "oh yeh totally reevaluated breshke" but that was after everyone in this entire game told you how shit that case was. Yet, here we are, and you're still pushing breshke lol. You voted for onegu today and I took that into account with my post. You even quoted that post that had the exact line "if you really did mistake it for onegu that's bull shit because he was in your poe list still and you scum read him for ages after that". He still remained in your poe list after you "reevaluated" him. It also further shows that you were not paying attention to the game but instead skimming it to make up reads on people. You can't possibly have missed that discussion in the thread and if you did you can't have missed the fact that onegu's reply was to me, why else would you see it in a quote unless you were trying to focus on it? You know your shot failed on me, you know you're fucked, stop posting this repeated scummy bull shit.
You won't convince me I'm mafia, HF, and I'm done trying to explain myself because everything I say you take right against me anyway. It's a matter if you believe me your not. If you are not open to try to believe me, then just vote me and search for my partners. Make a case on me and convince others. But stop wasting my time with so many bullshit I can't bear to read.
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Is the game that easy, HF?
My mafia partners did everything to save me night one.
They all voted boxerfred. Shockey, Mig, and Yamato decided to NOT vote because we all mafia together and they did everything to save me. (Y)
And YES I assume there are four mafia.
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