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On June 19 2015 09:44 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 09:40 Fidei86 wrote:
WBG, I'm going to hit you with some LOGIC right now.
If you're town, some of the people who are disagreeing with you KNOW you're wrong/right (because they're mafia!) and therefore their responses to your thoughts may well make no sense. The people you DO want to work with you (ie the town) are probably not going to appreciate being called dullards, so you just lost influence with them.
Obviously if you're mafia then w/e.
In summary - if you're town, don't say shit like that. Otherwise, people might start thinking you're mafia. I honestly don't care if some people think I am mafia. If they are town and they want to think that they are in some bizarro world they can, but they aren't doing themselves or the rest of the team any favours in doing so. Right now I'm pretty annoyed with the game given that I basically posted constantly and gave the best effort I could possibly give to get GB lynched and yet we lost at the end because of people like Shockeyy and Onegu who did absolutely nothing all game and yet had the greatest influence over the lynch in the end. The best part about all of this is that we have people like rsoultin who are fairly likely to be town at the end of it all complaining about the thread being hard or too long to read when they have the largest filters in the game, and yet having literally 0 scumreads over a space of 48 hours.
while i work with the more than 0 scumreads i already gave you almighty amazing reader misrepresenting me so awesomely right now, do you mind attempting to reapproach the game from the perspective that you might actually be mistaken on gb, or is that a futile request for me to make, even as a hypothetical exercise?
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On June 19 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 09:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 09:40 Fidei86 wrote:
WBG, I'm going to hit you with some LOGIC right now.
If you're town, some of the people who are disagreeing with you KNOW you're wrong/right (because they're mafia!) and therefore their responses to your thoughts may well make no sense. The people you DO want to work with you (ie the town) are probably not going to appreciate being called dullards, so you just lost influence with them.
Obviously if you're mafia then w/e.
In summary - if you're town, don't say shit like that. Otherwise, people might start thinking you're mafia. I honestly don't care if some people think I am mafia. If they are town and they want to think that they are in some bizarro world they can, but they aren't doing themselves or the rest of the team any favours in doing so. Right now I'm pretty annoyed with the game given that I basically posted constantly and gave the best effort I could possibly give to get GB lynched and yet we lost at the end because of people like Shockeyy and Onegu who did absolutely nothing all game and yet had the greatest influence over the lynch in the end. The best part about all of this is that we have people like rsoultin who are fairly likely to be town at the end of it all complaining about the thread being hard or too long to read when they have the largest filters in the game, and yet having literally 0 scumreads over a space of 48 hours. while i work with the more than 0 scumreads i already gave you almighty amazing reader misrepresenting me so awesomely right now, do you mind attempting to reapproach the game from the perspective that you might actually be mistaken on gb, or is that a futile request for me to make, even as a hypothetical exercise?
I already did that and the game actually doesn't make sense from that perspective
why the fuck would multiple people hammer BF right at the end with no explanation whatsoever if there were two townies up for lynch? The case on GB was far stronger than the one on BF and pretty much the only person that disagreed with that was you. In fact, even some people who supposedly agreed with the GB case, e.g. Shockeyy and Mig voted BF instead of GB, while our troll friend ritoky over here ended up kindly wasting his vote completely.
I want to give yamato the benefit of the doubt that he legitimately just forgot to vote or whatever but that lack of vote is also really damning for him given that he also found GB scummy prior to the lynch. Whatever though, I hate replacements and given his posting style and comments this game he's probably not scum anyway.
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On June 19 2015 09:55 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 09:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 09:40 Fidei86 wrote:
WBG, I'm going to hit you with some LOGIC right now.
If you're town, some of the people who are disagreeing with you KNOW you're wrong/right (because they're mafia!) and therefore their responses to your thoughts may well make no sense. The people you DO want to work with you (ie the town) are probably not going to appreciate being called dullards, so you just lost influence with them.
Obviously if you're mafia then w/e.
In summary - if you're town, don't say shit like that. Otherwise, people might start thinking you're mafia. I honestly don't care if some people think I am mafia. If they are town and they want to think that they are in some bizarro world they can, but they aren't doing themselves or the rest of the team any favours in doing so. Right now I'm pretty annoyed with the game given that I basically posted constantly and gave the best effort I could possibly give to get GB lynched and yet we lost at the end because of people like Shockeyy and Onegu who did absolutely nothing all game and yet had the greatest influence over the lynch in the end. The best part about all of this is that we have people like rsoultin who are fairly likely to be town at the end of it all complaining about the thread being hard or too long to read when they have the largest filters in the game, and yet having literally 0 scumreads over a space of 48 hours. while i work with the more than 0 scumreads i already gave you almighty amazing reader misrepresenting me so awesomely right now, do you mind attempting to reapproach the game from the perspective that you might actually be mistaken on gb, or is that a futile request for me to make, even as a hypothetical exercise? I already did that and the game actually doesn't make sense from that perspective why the fuck would multiple people hammer BF right at the end with no explanation whatsoever if there were two townies up for lynch? The case on GB was far stronger than the one on BF and pretty much the only person that disagreed with that was you. In fact, even some people who supposedly agreed with the GB case, e.g. Shockeyy and Mig voted BF instead of GB, while our troll friend ritoky over here ended up kindly wasting his vote completely. I want to give yamato the benefit of the doubt that he legitimately just forgot to vote or whatever but that lack of vote is also really damning for him given that he also found GB scummy prior to the lynch. Whatever though, I hate replacements and given his posting style and comments this game he's probably not scum anyway.
nh
if i come to the same conclusion, i'll let you know. on the surface that does seem strange
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LS are you still around? I want to talk about your claim a little more.
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On June 19 2015 10:19 Breshke wrote:
LS are you still around? I want to talk about your claim a little more.
I will be in about a half hour because I playing Liquidlegends.net inhouses atm but you can drop by the claim question stuff now if you want to talk about it.
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Yo, LS I calmed down a bit while cooking dinner. I am sorry if me brow beating you turned you off from playing, had no intention of doing that. I think it is the sub-par play thus far combined with an agitator in the thread (who is getting a rise out of me and rsoul who are usually pretty nice) that drove me to just keep hammering you. I kinda realized something though. Way back when I started playing on another forum I did a whole fake claim shennanigans, rescind claim lulz stuff and some1 went absolutely apeshit on me and I was town and it was just bad all around. I kinda ended up being that guy and not being capable of imagining a world in which this comes from town.
So I am gonna try and just wash this whole claim business out of my brain (no promises) and evaluate your play not centered around it. So far from what I have gone through in your filter, I still have you leaning scum (particularly cuz of the shockeyy read flip thing too); but I won't just auto vote and ignore you. Please give reads before the end of the night so I can keep evaluating you with as open of a mind as I can.
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On June 19 2015 10:21 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 10:19 Breshke wrote:
LS are you still around? I want to talk about your claim a little more. I will be in about a half hour because I playing Liquidlegends.net inhouses atm but you can drop by the claim question stuff now if you want to talk about it.
Yeah im just wondering why you unclaimed. Since the original reason for claiming was to get rid of pressure so isn't that pressure jsut going to come back? Also you claim was fairly safe since you hadn't been CC'd and you didnt have any abilities that you had to prove.
This is like fringe stuff though so if you want to talk about your reads like ritoky said that is fine and probably better.
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is it bad that i'm kinda just o.0ing at someone calling me nice rather than pain in the ass for once?
ls 
i do have a question
why the fake claim instead of just VT when you've claimed VT before? that's what has me thrown. i honestly can't recall you fake-claiming ever (and even though i've come to accept that town players do it all the time for stupid reasons, i still detest the practice because i think it causes more confusion rather than brings any sort of benefit to town, but if i scumread/lynched people for everything i didn't agree with i'd have so few townreads it'd be hilarious)
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meh you know what? nevermind
this isn't scum ls...answer it for those scumreading you if you like but i don't really need your answer
reads would be better
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On June 19 2015 10:50 rsoultin wrote:
is it bad that i'm kinda just o.0ing at someone calling me nice rather than pain in the ass for once?
is civil more to your liking madam?
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for anyone wondering...
i'm just gonna come right out and be blunt about it (sorry if i offend you ls)
lightningstrike, who barely can scratch together the motivation to play under normal circumstances, has been trying way too hard for scum given circumstances that he'd have to be a complete asshole to make up. and he's not a complete asshole <3 simply, if he rolled scum, he would definitely have replaced out much earlier and i sincerely doubt hts doesn't prioritize his request all things considered
like the only way this isn't true if he's lying about what happened which i refuse to believe he'd even consider doing
he's basically confirmed town in my eyes, and really should be to any players who know him more than passingly
that's my spiel
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On June 19 2015 10:59 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 10:50 rsoultin wrote:
is it bad that i'm kinda just o.0ing at someone calling me nice rather than pain in the ass for once?
is civil more to your liking madam?
xP
lol i'll accept what you give me cause it's nice not to be called cancer-inducing lol >< do you disagree with what i said about ls, rit?
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On June 19 2015 11:02 rsoultin wrote:
for anyone wondering...
i'm just gonna come right out and be blunt about it (sorry if i offend you ls)
lightningstrike, who barely can scratch together the motivation to play under normal circumstances, has been trying way too hard for scum given circumstances that he'd have to be a complete asshole to make up. and he's not a complete asshole <3 simply, if he rolled scum, he would definitely have replaced out much earlier and i sincerely doubt hts doesn't prioritize his request all things considered
like the only way this isn't true if he's lying about what happened which i refuse to believe he'd even consider doing
he's basically confirmed town in my eyes, and really should be to any players who know him more than passingly
that's my spiel
damnnn this read feels dirty.
What if after last game he decided to try and step it up.
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On June 19 2015 09:08 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:46 NydusHerMain wrote:
Sorry BF.
For the people who didn't vote on GB, what are you thoughts on GB being potential scum? Curious. I know RS said he was town, but I want to know what other people think as well. The people who voted on him have large filters presumably on why GB is mafia. I just want to know where people stand before the day starts. So I just want to post this again because I think its a good question and a bunch of the people who voted on BFarn't around but should answer this when they get back. I also hope nydus is planning on answering this himself.
Only fidei answered and I didn't like it very much since his entire game right now hinges on "inactivity due to spam." Same as his reason for not voting on GB? I'm thinking that GB could very well be mafia but I'll tell you my opinion on him when the day starts. We're going to start a good scum hunt when the day starts boys. I can feel it in my bones.
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On June 19 2015 11:09 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 11:02 rsoultin wrote:
for anyone wondering...
i'm just gonna come right out and be blunt about it (sorry if i offend you ls)
lightningstrike, who barely can scratch together the motivation to play under normal circumstances, has been trying way too hard for scum given circumstances that he'd have to be a complete asshole to make up. and he's not a complete asshole <3 simply, if he rolled scum, he would definitely have replaced out much earlier and i sincerely doubt hts doesn't prioritize his request all things considered
like the only way this isn't true if he's lying about what happened which i refuse to believe he'd even consider doing
he's basically confirmed town in my eyes, and really should be to any players who know him more than passingly
that's my spiel damnnn this read feels dirty. What if after last game he decided to try and step it up.
dirty in what way?
like, there are things about lightningstrike that i simply don't say cause it's not my place, but this comes from a place beyond meta or tone and goes right to his personality. i've talked to him extensively and we've spent time together outside this forum. personally, and i understand if people don't accept this judgment but i'm pretty confident of it, i think it is completely beyond him to do this as scum. he's been criticized multiple times for being lazy as scum and not playing simply because he's not "motivated". if he ever does overcome that, i sincerely doubt this is that first time
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yeah I get that impression too, like most of his posts are near impossible to fake, especially right after another game in which he rolled mafia but had no motivation at all to play scum. People don't get 500x better overnight, and for LS to be scum here he would have to have transformed into some magic mind mender quite literally overnight.
you can take that at face value though since I've only played the one game with him, but even though I may not know LS personally I feel really strongly about that read.
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On June 19 2015 11:14 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 11:09 Breshke wrote:On June 19 2015 11:02 rsoultin wrote:
for anyone wondering...
i'm just gonna come right out and be blunt about it (sorry if i offend you ls)
lightningstrike, who barely can scratch together the motivation to play under normal circumstances, has been trying way too hard for scum given circumstances that he'd have to be a complete asshole to make up. and he's not a complete asshole <3 simply, if he rolled scum, he would definitely have replaced out much earlier and i sincerely doubt hts doesn't prioritize his request all things considered
like the only way this isn't true if he's lying about what happened which i refuse to believe he'd even consider doing
he's basically confirmed town in my eyes, and really should be to any players who know him more than passingly
that's my spiel damnnn this read feels dirty. What if after last game he decided to try and step it up. dirty in what way? like, there are things about lightningstrike that i simply don't say cause it's not my place, but this comes from a place beyond meta or tone and goes right to his personality. i've talked to him extensively and we've spent time together outside this forum. personally, and i understand if people don't accept this judgment but i'm pretty confident of it, i think it is completely beyond him to do this as scum. he's been criticized multiple times for being lazy as scum and not playing simply because he's not "motivated". if he ever does overcome that, i sincerely doubt this is that first time
Like dirty as in it can't be argued with if that makes sense? Maybe more like scum will be pissed because there goes a misslynch they could have gotten and there is nothing they can really do about it because it is based not on what LS has provided for the game but on who he is as a person.
Dirty was definitely the wrong word but I think that jsut comes from the fact that I will probably never vote on LS because of it.
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On June 19 2015 11:19 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 11:14 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 11:09 Breshke wrote:On June 19 2015 11:02 rsoultin wrote:
for anyone wondering...
i'm just gonna come right out and be blunt about it (sorry if i offend you ls)
lightningstrike, who barely can scratch together the motivation to play under normal circumstances, has been trying way too hard for scum given circumstances that he'd have to be a complete asshole to make up. and he's not a complete asshole <3 simply, if he rolled scum, he would definitely have replaced out much earlier and i sincerely doubt hts doesn't prioritize his request all things considered
like the only way this isn't true if he's lying about what happened which i refuse to believe he'd even consider doing
he's basically confirmed town in my eyes, and really should be to any players who know him more than passingly
that's my spiel damnnn this read feels dirty. What if after last game he decided to try and step it up. dirty in what way? like, there are things about lightningstrike that i simply don't say cause it's not my place, but this comes from a place beyond meta or tone and goes right to his personality. i've talked to him extensively and we've spent time together outside this forum. personally, and i understand if people don't accept this judgment but i'm pretty confident of it, i think it is completely beyond him to do this as scum. he's been criticized multiple times for being lazy as scum and not playing simply because he's not "motivated". if he ever does overcome that, i sincerely doubt this is that first time Like dirty as in it can't be argued with if that makes sense? Maybe more like scum will be pissed because there goes a misslynch they could have gotten and there is nothing they can really do about it because it is based not on what LS has provided for the game but on who he is as a person. Dirty was definitely the wrong word but I think that jsut comes from the fact that I will probably never vote on LS because of it.
lol sorry >< i wasn't trying to manipulate anyone really, just...i don't think after coming to that conclusion that i can easily avoid tearing into people for going after him so i figured it best to just post it now
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On June 19 2015 11:12 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 09:08 Breshke wrote:On June 19 2015 07:46 NydusHerMain wrote:
Sorry BF.
For the people who didn't vote on GB, what are you thoughts on GB being potential scum? Curious. I know RS said he was town, but I want to know what other people think as well. The people who voted on him have large filters presumably on why GB is mafia. I just want to know where people stand before the day starts. So I just want to post this again because I think its a good question and a bunch of the people who voted on BFarn't around but should answer this when they get back. I also hope nydus is planning on answering this himself. Only fidei answered and I didn't like it very much since his entire game right now hinges on "inactivity due to spam." Same as his reason for not voting on GB? I'm thinking that GB could very well be mafia but I'll tell you my opinion on him when the day starts. We're going to start a good scum hunt when the day starts boys. I can feel it in my bones.
Hmm. I find this very intresting but im happy to wait for the day to start.
I disliked that when fidel was talking about how he came about his town read on GB he talked more about his last game than this game. I get he was trying to find a parallel but it felt very rushed considering he apparently just read the guys entire filter and that he is going against what is thread consensus
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On June 19 2015 10:49 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 10:21 LightningStrike wrote:On June 19 2015 10:19 Breshke wrote:
LS are you still around? I want to talk about your claim a little more. I will be in about a half hour because I playing Liquidlegends.net inhouses atm but you can drop by the claim question stuff now if you want to talk about it. Yeah im just wondering why you unclaimed. Since the original reason for claiming was to get rid of pressure so isn't that pressure jsut going to come back? Also you claim was fairly safe since you hadn't been CC'd and you didnt have any abilities that you had to prove. This is like fringe stuff though so if you want to talk about your reads like ritoky said that is fine and probably better.
Ya I people were still doubting my claim and still thought I was scum for it so I decided enough was enough and decided to just put it to rest.
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