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On June 11 2015 03:22 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 03:20 Half the Sky wrote:On June 11 2015 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2015 03:16 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 11 2015 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2015 03:13 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 11 2015 03:11 Half the Sky wrote:On June 11 2015 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I don't think he's actually suspicious of me. Seems like everyone is just keeping me on the backburner as usual He's called you a lurker at least, what, three times now? Or useless or however he's phrasing it? As the only lurker in this game, oh wait... So what if there are other lurkers? The argument "but those other guys are as guilty as me" is something that mafia makes all the fucking time. And who are you even talking about? fuba mig Va off the top of my head. I said my part about mig and fuba/VA are known lurkers who do it every single game regardless of alignment. So your argument is invalid. Alright JAT, so then (based on my previous question) am I correct here in saying that your primary argument against FF is his lurkiness? I don't know if it is the primary argument. Primary would be that he just is not towny/I can't remember even a single good thing he said. The only thing I remember is what other people said ABOUT him and his willingness to shenannie for no reason.
Wow nvm I don't even want you to town read me you haven't even looked at the filter of someone you call scummy.
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On June 11 2015 03:23 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 03:22 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2015 03:20 Half the Sky wrote:On June 11 2015 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2015 03:16 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 11 2015 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2015 03:13 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 11 2015 03:11 Half the Sky wrote:On June 11 2015 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I don't think he's actually suspicious of me. Seems like everyone is just keeping me on the backburner as usual He's called you a lurker at least, what, three times now? Or useless or however he's phrasing it? As the only lurker in this game, oh wait... So what if there are other lurkers? The argument "but those other guys are as guilty as me" is something that mafia makes all the fucking time. And who are you even talking about? fuba mig Va off the top of my head. I said my part about mig and fuba/VA are known lurkers who do it every single game regardless of alignment. So your argument is invalid. Alright JAT, so then (based on my previous question) am I correct here in saying that your primary argument against FF is his lurkiness? I don't know if it is the primary argument. Primary would be that he just is not towny/I can't remember even a single good thing he said. The only thing I remember is what other people said ABOUT him and his willingness to shenannie for no reason. Wow nvm I don't even want you to town read me you haven't even looked at the filter of someone you call scummy.
Boo hoo.
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wow 16 pages of one-liners. That's impressively annoying to read.
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Fecalfeast last 3-4 games
This game - 6 page filter/80 pages after 2+ cycles
NSM11 - 6 page filter for one cycle (NKed N1 as VT)
Ippo - 11 page filter for two cycles (lynched D2, was mafia)
TL LXX - 22 page filter for seven cycles/last 2 cycles were 24h (endgamed D7, VT)
Debauchery - 4 page filter for three cycles (NKed N3, VT)
He's low postcount as either alignment, but I don't know I could reliably say that postcount alone is a scum indicator.
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Ippo - 11 page filter for two cycles (lynched D2, was mafia)
Because mafia is actually fun, rather than frustrating
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On June 11 2015 03:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
wow 16 pages of one-liners. That's impressively annoying to read.
Better than 16 pages of not-one-liners.
Btw. it's nice and all that you are reading a filter/doing anything at all but what exactly is the point? Are you sad that I am scumreading you? If you are town it would be more productive to read the filter of someone that could actually be mafia.
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Actually I forgot Carnaval since it wasn't in the database. 12 page filter, and lynched D4 as vanilla scum. Still I think the previous point holds if you consider average pages/day.
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On June 11 2015 03:29 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 03:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
wow 16 pages of one-liners. That's impressively annoying to read. Better than 16 pages of not-one-liners. Btw. it's nice and all that you are reading a filter/doing anything at all but what exactly is the point? Are you sad that I am scumreading you? If you are town it would be more productive to read the filter of someone that could actually be mafia.
I am sad that you are scumreading me but acting like you're confirmed town is bullshit, come on.
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On June 11 2015 03:34 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 03:29 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2015 03:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
wow 16 pages of one-liners. That's impressively annoying to read. Better than 16 pages of not-one-liners. Btw. it's nice and all that you are reading a filter/doing anything at all but what exactly is the point? Are you sad that I am scumreading you? If you are town it would be more productive to read the filter of someone that could actually be mafia. I am sad that you are scumreading me but acting like you're confirmed town is bullshit, come on.
Ok, I am not confirmed. But do you think you could lynch me today even if I was mafia? No, you couldn't. So either way you are wasting your time.
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Btw. I am not really scumreading you. I am just not at all townreading you and that puts you very far down in my list already.
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On June 11 2015 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Btw. I am not really scumreading you. I am just not at all townreading you and that puts you very far down in my list already.
You just don't know how to townread me is all then.
I miss superbia
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On June 10 2015 15:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
Once again I want to reiterate that night actions need to be sent to both of the hosts. It's imperative that Onegu gets the actions tonight because I will likely not be around to post at deadline.
Actions due in . One hour resolution period follows that deadline, at which point the day 3 post will be made.
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On June 11 2015 03:40 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Btw. I am not really scumreading you. I am just not at all townreading you and that puts you very far down in my list already. You just don't know how to townread me is all then. I miss superbia
OR maybe you just don't know how to be towny. I mean the people who are townreading you aren't exactly numerous.
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this conversation is going nowhere in impressive fashion
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On June 11 2015 03:52 marvellosity wrote:
this conversation is going nowhere in impressive fashion
That's fine as long as it is impressive.
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I actually think it's not too unlikely for marv and jat to be a scum tag team. They're both going for the easy target (me) and continue reading each other town. Especially JAT is not really doing huge cases, he's more following things other people say and keeping discussions running with oneliners.
On June 11 2015 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:You will probably not like the reason. Ok, first of all he is putting in quite a bit of effort even though we lynched mafia day1 and it is his second consecutive scumgame. He could do that as scum but it is something. But more importantly the reason I scumread him early day1 can be explained by what he said about not being joyful as town. Dick move analysis says he would not try to convince me that this is the case with the argument that he wants to retire from playing mafia. I just do not think he would do that. If he did, fine. It will never work again. But I doubt it. And fortunately if we lynch his partner he will probably concede anyways - it will get easier to lynch him the longer he lives. So I do not concern myself too much with doubting him.
This post is one of the seldom times where he really answers to a question. JAT, I didn't ask why you read him scum D1. Also, what brings you on the idea he'd concede that easy if his scum partner gets lynched? There are not too many people down yet and at this point, there's no pressure on him. That's quite the green read you're doing without having anything actually based on his filter.
On June 11 2015 02:15 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 02:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
well i suck at actual scumhunting, back to gut reads.
mig train choo choo Fuba and boxer will both have to go before I even consider lynching mig.
I understand wanting to lynch fuba first but since you said that you're not really sure if I'm scum or if my plays are just dumb/newbie/whatever I wonder what brings you to this. Also, Mig is one of the few guys that's actually pressuring you (or has been). Saying "he's doing rightfully so because it's a town effort" is a very charming move - if you'd be scum.
On June 10 2015 08:12 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 08:11 NaCl`y wrote:
No. Tomorrow we absolutely are lynching Fuba. You should not contest this lynch. Why the sudden confidence?
On June 10 2015 08:16 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 08:14 Half the Sky wrote:On June 10 2015 08:12 justanothertownie wrote:On June 10 2015 08:11 NaCl`y wrote:
No. Tomorrow we absolutely are lynching Fuba. You should not contest this lynch. Why the sudden confidence? JAT, look at pages 67-68. Confidence isn't sudden. Yeah, I just saw. Well, if I go with my personal opinion I could lynch Fuba in a heartbeat. I am just giving marv a little credit and he is calling him town :/
On June 10 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:The point about the absolutes is definitely true.
Talk about following thread sentiment. I mean, this is quite weak to say because the arguments towards fuba are reasonable. Meta reads can be wrong though and in my opinion are not the strongest instruments to rely upon. This is not meant to be a defense of fuba but more a thing to point out that it is easy for pretty much everyone to agree on those points (well I do), for scum as well as for town.
On June 11 2015 03:29 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 03:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
wow 16 pages of one-liners. That's impressively annoying to read. Better than 16 pages of not-one-liners. Btw. it's nice and all that you are reading a filter/doing anything at all but what exactly is the point? Are you sad that I am scumreading you? If you are town it would be more productive to read the filter of someone that could actually be mafia.
This post strikes me a lot. While you rather disregard Mig's concerns about you (blabla, "rather lynch bf and fuba before talking about Mig", you react pissed to Fecalfeast's post, implying you're seriously fucking town. Do you see yourself as a confirmed town or what makes you so sure FF is gonna believe that you "could actually be" not "mafia"?
Let's go on:
On June 06 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis
I think you know which ruse I am talking about.
I counterclaim jailkeeper. More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper. If this is a harcclaim we are 100 % lynching artanis.
So you'll 100% lynch the guy who just claimed a vital town role? Because of the #sickPlays? I mean, there couldn't happen a better thing for scum to have the JK lynched D1. You seem to not care for that risk.
On June 06 2015 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me? Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote. I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all. I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out. On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis
I think you know which ruse I am talking about.
I counterclaim jailkeeper. More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper. Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe. I also don't believe you thought scum would catch on to your ridiculous "crumb". You are not this bad.
Look, scum believed.
On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:37 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me? Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote. I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all. I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out. On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis
I think you know which ruse I am talking about.
I counterclaim jailkeeper. More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper. Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe. I fail to believe any mini game would be so utterly awful at that kind of balance. I am quite content to get lynched first for the trade. We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely. On June 06 2015 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me? Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote. I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all. I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out. On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis
I think you know which ruse I am talking about.
I counterclaim jailkeeper. More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper. Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe. I also don't believe you thought scum would catch on to your ridiculous "crumb". You are not this bad. I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves. Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me.Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 07:40 yamato77 wrote:On June 06 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:37 yamato77 wrote:On June 06 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis
I think you know which ruse I am talking about.
I counterclaim jailkeeper. More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper. If this is a harcclaim we are 100 % lynching artanis. care to explain? I'm all ears. There are never both jk and doctor in the game. If the salty guy hardclaims we are lynching the shit out of artanis. In the worst case he trades 1:1 with mafia NaCl. So you're banking on lynching claims in a closed setup?Yeah, no. Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER.
Bro, I did. However, the second bolded part strikes me. This really looks like a genuine discussion between scum yamato and not-scum JAT. Was that orchestrated? I imagine this scenario:
1. Artanis claims JK.
2. scum qt discusses if it's a true claim or not
3. CC of Salty happens
4. scum qt goes a bit nuts and starts discussing about who to lynch
5. they decide to take those discussions to the public since it would be quite the ruse to cover up the connection between them.
Hm. Feels constructed, even to me. But if not, it's really a sick play. #tinfoilhat.
On June 06 2015 07:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:37 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me? Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote. I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all. I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out. On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis
I think you know which ruse I am talking about.
I counterclaim jailkeeper. More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper. Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe. I fail to believe any mini game would be so utterly awful at that kind of balance. I am quite content to get lynched first for the trade. We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely. On June 06 2015 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me? Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote. I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all. I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out. On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis
I think you know which ruse I am talking about.
I counterclaim jailkeeper. More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper. Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe. I also don't believe you thought scum would catch on to your ridiculous "crumb". You are not this bad. I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves. Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me. On June 06 2015 07:40 yamato77 wrote:On June 06 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:37 yamato77 wrote:On June 06 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis
I think you know which ruse I am talking about.
I counterclaim jailkeeper. More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper. If this is a harcclaim we are 100 % lynching artanis. care to explain? I'm all ears. There are never both jk and doctor in the game. If the salty guy hardclaims we are lynching the shit out of artanis. In the worst case he trades 1:1 with mafia NaCl. So you're banking on lynching claims in a closed setup? Yeah, no. Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER. How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious. Why would you ever think that? Why would he ever point that out if he really thinks that? As town he would never point it out if he thinks it is a crumb. As scum he would also never do it and instead just kill you.
First sentence: subtle scum read on marv. Second sentence: subtle town read on marv. Given that your filter is consisting of 95% oneliners, that's another indicator of you not commiting too much on anything. Even your first D1 vote (on Artanis) isn't an unsafe one.
On June 06 2015 08:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, tell me:
1) Why would scum NaCl counterclaim if they can shoot town artanis in the night?
2) How on earth does Artanis play make sense from a town pov? Do you think he is usually a pretty stupid guy?
You REALLY wanted to get him lynched, eh? Even voting him.
On June 06 2015 10:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Going to bed. Anyone who is even considering not lynching Artanis has to explain all this:
First of all you have to explain why NaCl is scum because there is no way there are 2 protective roles in a 10 vs 3 setup with 1 mafia KP and normal roles but EVEN IF THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU ON ITS OWN and you think for some reason it is possible to have a JK AND a doctor in the same game:
The situation is the following - you are Artanis a pretty good and experienced town player and you happened to role JK. Halfway into day1 nothing much happened so far and all of a sudden marvellosity who you townread and who you think is a really good player is attacking and voting you. You played a lot of games together. Do you either try to convince him that you are town/play the game or immediately feel the need to claim?
The answer is even if Artanis thinks he will potentially get lynched he will never claim his really powerful role without trying to avert the lynch otherwise before (and his stats show that he is really good at not being mislynched).
On the other hand if you are scum Artanis then you might think to yourself - "I will probably not be able to avoid being lynched" for whatever reason (maybe because town marvellosity set his sights on you). Artanis had some really weak scumgames. In THAT CASE claiming JK is pretty good. If noone counterclaims you will survive AT LEAST a day and be able to push an agenda. If you get counterclaimed you outed a really important role (if scum has a vigi getting rid of our protective role basically means they need one less mislynch for example) and in the worst case you just still get lynched. Maybe you even survive because people are idiots.
So town Artanis obviously did not claim because of being afraid. So why would he?
Artanis says he claimed because he thought he was outed by a dumb breadcrumb (which I think is HIGHLY unbelievable itself) he did which marv put emphasis on. So what do you do in this situation?
The answer is you never ever ever claim right away. What does town get from your outing? Nothing. If you think you absolutely need to claim for whatever reason you can still claim during the end of the night to avoid getting shot if scum happen to not know about you. By claiming you are destroying any chance of them not knowing for no real benefit.
If Artanis is town he acted incredibly stupid to a degree that is absolutely insane. I refuse to believe this and that he would not put any thought in how to play as one of towns most important and strong roles. The likelihood of him being mafia is much much higher. Add to this the claim by NaCl and we will absolutely lynch Artanis today.
Here you explain it. First sentence: what makes you so sure that NaCl's claim is a true one? That is a slight TMI call to me. You hide it nicely, talking about setup speculation which at this point is likely to keep everyone busy. However while you strongly doubt Artanis' claim, you don't put a second thought onto NaCl's claim being a fake one. Why not? Why are you so sure that his claim is real? Does it make that much sense for a Doctor to claim D1, even if Artanis' claim was fake for real (which is something that salty could not know). You're experienced, why didn't you identify that CC just as a play to test the waters (hell even I did that)?
Next you say, "the situation is the following". Holy hell it's D1 and you cannot possibly know what drives people to do what they do. Yet you construct a theory that is terribly wrong. Next bolded part: "Artanis had weak scum games in the past. Now he's pulling an absolutely sick move!" How does that make sense? Like: "meta says Artanis sucks as scum but I'm sure he's rocking it this time!"
On June 06 2015 19:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 14:04 Alakaslam wrote:On June 06 2015 10:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Going to bed. Anyone who is even considering not lynching Artanis has to explain all this:
First of all you have to explain why NaCl is scum because there is no way there are 2 protective roles in a 10 vs 3 setup with 1 mafia KP and normal roles but EVEN IF THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU ON ITS OWN and you think for some reason it is possible to have a JK AND a doctor in the same game:
The situation is the following - you are Artanis a pretty good and experienced town player and you happened to role JK. Halfway into day1 nothing much happened so far and all of a sudden marvellosity who you townread and who you think is a really good player is attacking and voting you. You played a lot of games together. Do you either try to convince him that you are town/play the game or immediately feel the need to claim?
The answer is even if Artanis thinks he will potentially get lynched he will never claim his really powerful role without trying to avert the lynch otherwise before (and his stats show that he is really good at not being mislynched).
On the other hand if you are scum Artanis then you might think to yourself - "I will probably not be able to avoid being lynched" for whatever reason (maybe because town marvellosity set his sights on you). Artanis had some really weak scumgames. In THAT CASE claiming JK is pretty good. If noone counterclaims you will survive AT LEAST a day and be able to push an agenda. If you get counterclaimed you outed a really important role (if scum has a vigi getting rid of our protective role basically means they need one less mislynch for example) and in the worst case you just still get lynched. Maybe you even survive because people are idiots.
So town Artanis obviously did not claim because of being afraid. So why would he?
Artanis says he claimed because he thought he was outed by a dumb breadcrumb (which I think is HIGHLY unbelievable itself) he did which marv put emphasis on. So what do you do in this situation?
The answer is you never ever ever claim right away. What does town get from your outing? Nothing. If you think you absolutely need to claim for whatever reason you can still claim during the end of the night to avoid getting shot if scum happen to not know about you. By claiming you are destroying any chance of them not knowing for no real benefit.
If Artanis is town he acted incredibly stupid to a degree that is absolutely insane. I refuse to believe this and that he would not put any thought in how to play as one of towns most important and strong roles. The likelihood of him being mafia is much much higher. Add to this the claim by NaCl and we will absolutely lynch Artanis today. I don't have to explain shit to youI do as I damn well please Yes, you actually have to. If you are town and want to win that is. I am town and I WILL lynch artanis today. So if you have reason to think he isctown you need to tell them. If you do not have a reason like that/if you cannot refute my case on artanis there is no excuse for voting anyone else.
Are you serious? You so often did not answer raised questions. You're not following your own town guidelines.
On June 07 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
##Unvote
Yes, marv might be mafia. Gonna read you yamato bit now.
lel. Strongly going on Artanis, weak scum read on marv, boom switch into yamato (note, only announcing "to read a bit" not putting much pressure) after a huge case by Salty was done. Not too eager on following that case huh.
C'mon, this is just D1. I'm on page 4 of his filter now. Gonna come back to it later.
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how does any of this commentary make him mafia exactly?
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On June 11 2015 04:10 marvellosity wrote:
how does any of this commentary make him mafia exactly?
Shame you don't see it.
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On June 11 2015 04:11 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 04:10 marvellosity wrote:
how does any of this commentary make him mafia exactly? Shame you don't see it.
I mean this in all seriousness, and not as a criticism of you, so please take it in the spirit it's intended (we'll assume you're town for now)
when you talk about someone, you need to be clear/concise about how what you're saying is more likely to come from a mafia perspective than a town perspective
this isn't the first time you've done this - you just comment on a series of posts and you create your own narrative.
Well, I (and also most other players in this game) can easily provide you with an alternative narrative.
A better case structure is as follows:
1. jat does this thing (1 or 2 quotes as evidence)
2. here's why it makes sense from a mafia perspective
3. here's why i don't think it's the town perspective
4. conclusion
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