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On June 07 2015 04:57 Mig wrote:
So prplhz are you voting JTA? If not this is pointless and a waste of time this close to the deadline.
Everyone just going to ignore me when I ask about fancy feast?. I guess he has a 69% winrate because when hes town he does literally nothing and votes for himself the entire day?
Win rates mean almost nothing. He has been carried as both alignments countless times.
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On June 07 2015 04:59 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 04:56 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 04:55 prplhz wrote:On June 07 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 04:53 prplhz wrote:
and no you didn't say "unclaim immediately"
if you read your post you said "if you unclaim then you should be lynched" You should read and try to understand the whole post before you accuse me of something stupid. it's 1 fucking sentence, there's no hidden meaning. "if you unclaim, you will be lynched". that is what you say. what the fuck? I said "if you unclaim LATER you will be lynched" and then I say "if you are doing this as VT stop it immediately". Are you really unable to read? and then he proceeded to claim earlier or what? also, can you cut the dumb attitude you're sporting? it's not becoming and frankly sort of ridiculous.
You are being ridiculous and dumb and I will call what you are doing ridiculous and dumb if you keep it up.
Understanding what I did is not exactly rocket science.
I will some it up for you once again because you have such a hard time reading my posts:
I scumread Artanis for two things:
1) His unbelievable claim/my doubts that he would do it as town.
2) The cc.
Without the cc this is not enough to lynch him as potential JK. He could just have a terrible game.
I said if NaCl unclaims LATER as in AFTER WE LYNCH ARTANIS he will get lynched and that he should unclaim immediately if he is VT. He did unclaim immediately so there is no problem. It is not hard to understand why there is a difference between unclaiming now and later, right?
I said blues should not counterclaim because I was pretty certain that I could lynch Artanis without that.
Where exactly is your problem with any of that?
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On June 07 2015 04:59 Mig wrote:
Yea I am more just using it as a conversation piece. How about actually commenting on who you think is scum JTA? Instead of only replying to useless shit.
I will get something to eat and then I will see who I want to lynch. FF can be useless as both alignments but I don't think I would be sad if he died.
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On June 07 2015 05:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I am caught up now, let's talk about fecalfeast
Nah, I'd rather see you talk about other people.
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On June 07 2015 05:16 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 04:59 prplhz wrote:On June 07 2015 04:56 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 04:55 prplhz wrote:On June 07 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 04:53 prplhz wrote:
and no you didn't say "unclaim immediately"
if you read your post you said "if you unclaim then you should be lynched" You should read and try to understand the whole post before you accuse me of something stupid. it's 1 fucking sentence, there's no hidden meaning. "if you unclaim, you will be lynched". that is what you say. what the fuck? I said "if you unclaim LATER you will be lynched" and then I say "if you are doing this as VT stop it immediately". Are you really unable to read? and then he proceeded to claim earlier or what? also, can you cut the dumb attitude you're sporting? it's not becoming and frankly sort of ridiculous. You are being ridiculous and dumb and I will call what you are doing ridiculous and dumb if you keep it up. Understanding what I did is not exactly rocket science. I will some it up for you once again because you have such a hard time reading my posts: I scumread Artanis for two things: 1) His unbelievable claim/my doubts that he would do it as town. 2) The cc. Without the cc this is not enough to lynch him as potential JK. He could just have a terrible game. I said if NaCl unclaims LATER as in AFTER WE LYNCH ARTANIS he will get lynched and that he should unclaim immediately if he is VT. He did unclaim immediately so there is no problem. It is not hard to understand why there is a difference between unclaiming now and later, right? I said blues should not counterclaim because I was pretty certain that I could lynch Artanis without that. Where exactly is your problem with any of that? 95% to unvote. that's a pretty long distance. so your scum read on him was based almost solely on counterclaim, because the counterclaim rescind was what made you go from 95% to unvote. yes. how can you not understand that it's confusing that you type "later" but you don't mean "later" as in "later" but instead you mean something else? the "stop counterclaming immediately this game" doesn't even make sense because he already counterclaimed, he can't stop counterclaiming. only thing he can do is rescind. i don't know why you think that me reading your post the way you type it warrants some dumb attitude. i can totally see where artanis is coming from on that.
Yes, stopping the counterclaim=rescind=unclaim, lol. I am glad we cleared that up.
I think I will just ignore you from now on. It is all in my filter and easy to understand. I also just explained it to you again in the post you quoted but you just seem to ignore it. If you can't read I can't make you understand so it isn't worth talking to you.
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On June 07 2015 05:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
k I'll do what I just read:
Slam: townish. Looking at games where he has rolled town in the database, he is exhibiting a similar attitude of fun but inquisitive. His activity is high but honestly I didn't look at his scum games
mig: nullscumish. Maybe I'm reading too much into some of his posts but they seem a bit flustered. He's been poking at the idea of scumming on me for a bit but hasn't put any substance behind it, only continuing to comment and ask minor questions. I don't know if this is alignment indicative for him but to me he feels like he's trying to keep his options wide open. I will have to do a read of his filter soon.
Chez: scumish. He's been here long enough to tell people to scum me and then nothing. I didn't bother to look up meta he is acting anti-town.
prplhz: town. Too much thinking and talking and interacting from what I've seen of prpl's scum games.
I have no idea what this prpl/jat interaction is one sec I will read it
Who do you want to lynch?
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Ok, for now I think I do not want to lynch one of those people today for different reasons:
marv
NaCl
prplhz
Mig
Artanis
Time to see who of the lurky, useless rest would be the best lynch.
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On June 07 2015 05:35 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 05:34 Mig wrote:
I actually think artanis has been utterly worthless, and way way worse than noir mafia. I have no reason to think hes town but I dont think people are going to lynch him after his claim that is uncountered.
Prplhz I am more than willing to discuss jta if you want to lynch him. If you dont then you are wasting what little time we have. Show nested quote +Feast/artanis interaction - If either of artanis/feast are scum it is very unlikely that the other is also. The claim/counter claim/ artanis vote feast stuff is too random. Just a weird/unlikely series of interactions if the scum team planned out an artanis fake claim. So we planned it now?
Come on man...
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On June 07 2015 05:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 05:29 Mig wrote:
My case against fecal is this,
1) claims not to have read the case against me and asks if it is good when there was nothing at all to read.
2) Makes absolutely no effort to comment on who he thinks is mafia. When originally poked he just comes in and says every case sucks.
3) When it looked like the thread was swinging against artanis he lightly stepped backed saying we should discuss other things. He then just disappears without discussing anything.
And now he gives a town read on slam, great! Very useful. So basically, he's being useless and trolly.
Who would you lynch?
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On June 07 2015 05:40 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 05:35 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 07 2015 05:34 Mig wrote:
I actually think artanis has been utterly worthless, and way way worse than noir mafia. I have no reason to think hes town but I dont think people are going to lynch him after his claim that is uncountered.
Prplhz I am more than willing to discuss jta if you want to lynch him. If you dont then you are wasting what little time we have. Feast/artanis interaction - If either of artanis/feast are scum it is very unlikely that the other is also. The claim/counter claim/ artanis vote feast stuff is too random. Just a weird/unlikely series of interactions if the scum team planned out an artanis fake claim. So we planned it now? Come on man... How is this not a blatant contradiction? He still thinks artanis fakeclaimed and yet is now going after someone he said couldn't be mafia with artanis. I'm not saying associative reads are good I'm pointing out that he didn't even think before throwing scum on me.
He said that ages ago. Are you claiming to remember details like that all the time while evaluating if individual players are scummy? Please FF...
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On June 07 2015 05:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 05:41 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 05:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 07 2015 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 05:35 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 07 2015 05:34 Mig wrote:
I actually think artanis has been utterly worthless, and way way worse than noir mafia. I have no reason to think hes town but I dont think people are going to lynch him after his claim that is uncountered.
Prplhz I am more than willing to discuss jta if you want to lynch him. If you dont then you are wasting what little time we have. Feast/artanis interaction - If either of artanis/feast are scum it is very unlikely that the other is also. The claim/counter claim/ artanis vote feast stuff is too random. Just a weird/unlikely series of interactions if the scum team planned out an artanis fake claim. So we planned it now? Come on man... How is this not a blatant contradiction? He still thinks artanis fakeclaimed and yet is now going after someone he said couldn't be mafia with artanis. I'm not saying associative reads are good I'm pointing out that he didn't even think before throwing scum on me. He said that ages ago. Are you claiming to remember details like that all the time while evaluating if individual players are scummy? Please FF... The actual bad part about it is that Mig never claimed to have a rock solid scumread on either of us. He just thinks both of us are scummy individually which means there is no contradiction to begin with.
That also.
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On June 07 2015 05:42 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 05:41 Mig wrote:
I have no reason to believe vayne or chez are town either it doesnt mean they are necessarily mafia. Either you or artanis could be mafia, I stand by that both of you very likely are not.
If you are town ask yourself this, why have I spent the last 3 hours phone posting when the thread was dead? If I were mafia I did it just for shits and giggles? its only town cred if you dont give it to yourself
Fine then I am giving it to him. The fact that he is here and trying to find a lynch makes him a worse lynch than half of this game.
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On June 07 2015 05:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 05:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Chezinu is a good lynch tbh if im going to actually try this game again. I don't think its feasible to make it happen today though perhaps next cycle I think he's a very valid lynch today since there aren't really that many great candidates.
Yeah?
If you have reason not to lynch any of those people feel free to share:
fuba
boxer
slam
yamato
VA
FF
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On June 07 2015 06:22 NaCl`y wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 06:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Boxer might actually be convincing me here. I'm uncertain if Yamato would truly be this bad as town. He's also conveniently afk when we're approaching deadline. If you weren't an uncounterclaimed jailkeeper I would be lyncing you tenfold. His post is exactly what I've already said and that which you have disagreed with and stated that opposite conclusion. Now you are agreeing with it??
Agreed. At least the only relevant part. Boxer felt the need to add a ton of useless not alignment indicative shitposts.
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On June 07 2015 06:29 boxerfred wrote:
so concluding, my reads:
town:
JAT, NaCL
scum: yamato
null with scum tendency: artanis, fuba, marv
rest is null. gonna look into that JAT vs. prplhz discussion next, maybe I'll find something.
Don't waste your time with that if you already think I am town.
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On June 06 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, JAT, we'll make assumptions about a closed setup and then blame balance and stupid hosting postgame when you're wrong and you lynched a fucking protective role that wasn't even directly counterclaimed.
Why should I not believe Artanis' claim? And unless NaCl is literally suicidal, why the fuck would he do this as mafia? You need to answer these questions rather than just scream your assumptions in the thread. Yes, doing this would be suicidal as NaCl. That's why we are lynching Artanis who made a claim that as town made no fucking sense at all and outed a powerrole in the process. It makes a lot of sense if you believe he's just fucking mafia. The crumb is obvious, and not something I think scum Artanis does very often. Town Artanis feels pressured, town Artanis feels like his role is outed anyway, so he claims. Is it really such a difficult sequence of events to understand?
This is what I dislike the most about yamato. Even if we ignore that the crumb is not obvious to anyone else he just assumes that town Artanis felt pressured and claimed because of that. How on earth is it even possible to reach this conclusion with the way the claim went down when Artanis said something like "I am bored.... btw I am JK" to claim for example?
It looks like he knows that Artanis is town.
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On June 07 2015 06:38 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 06:37 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 06 2015 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, JAT, we'll make assumptions about a closed setup and then blame balance and stupid hosting postgame when you're wrong and you lynched a fucking protective role that wasn't even directly counterclaimed.
Why should I not believe Artanis' claim? And unless NaCl is literally suicidal, why the fuck would he do this as mafia? You need to answer these questions rather than just scream your assumptions in the thread. Yes, doing this would be suicidal as NaCl. That's why we are lynching Artanis who made a claim that as town made no fucking sense at all and outed a powerrole in the process. It makes a lot of sense if you believe he's just fucking mafia. The crumb is obvious, and not something I think scum Artanis does very often. Town Artanis feels pressured, town Artanis feels like his role is outed anyway, so he claims. Is it really such a difficult sequence of events to understand? This is what I dislike the most about yamato. Even if we ignore that the crumb is not obvious to anyone else he just assumes that town Artanis felt pressured and claimed because of that. How on earth is it even possible to reach this conclusion with the way the claim went down when Artanis said something like "I am bored.... btw I am JK" to claim for example? It looks like he knows that Artanis is town. That's exactly the point I raised when I pointed to the "what a dumb play"-quotes of yamato.
Could you explain your other scumleans?
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On June 07 2015 06:57 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 06:38 boxerfred wrote:On June 07 2015 06:37 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 06 2015 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, JAT, we'll make assumptions about a closed setup and then blame balance and stupid hosting postgame when you're wrong and you lynched a fucking protective role that wasn't even directly counterclaimed.
Why should I not believe Artanis' claim? And unless NaCl is literally suicidal, why the fuck would he do this as mafia? You need to answer these questions rather than just scream your assumptions in the thread. Yes, doing this would be suicidal as NaCl. That's why we are lynching Artanis who made a claim that as town made no fucking sense at all and outed a powerrole in the process. It makes a lot of sense if you believe he's just fucking mafia. The crumb is obvious, and not something I think scum Artanis does very often. Town Artanis feels pressured, town Artanis feels like his role is outed anyway, so he claims. Is it really such a difficult sequence of events to understand? This is what I dislike the most about yamato. Even if we ignore that the crumb is not obvious to anyone else he just assumes that town Artanis felt pressured and claimed because of that. How on earth is it even possible to reach this conclusion with the way the claim went down when Artanis said something like "I am bored.... btw I am JK" to claim for example? It looks like he knows that Artanis is town. That's exactly the point I raised when I pointed to the "what a dumb play"-quotes of yamato. Could you explain your other scumleans? Not with quoted posts, no. Tomorrow I'll do that, but I'm way too tired to do this now. My Artanis' scum read comes mainly from your post. I like the idea of "too experienced for a dumb move so that might be a scum claim". Fuba since he went at me when I started going on yamato. However he rather early went on Yamato, too, so that weakens my read. That's why I lean him null with a scum tendency and not scum. Marv, because he got in that fight with yamato and that felt way over the top. Was that sufficient?
meh... you base all your reads on association with yamato which is pretty dangerous.
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On June 07 2015 07:06 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2015 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 06:57 boxerfred wrote:On June 07 2015 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:On June 07 2015 06:38 boxerfred wrote:On June 07 2015 06:37 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 06 2015 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, JAT, we'll make assumptions about a closed setup and then blame balance and stupid hosting postgame when you're wrong and you lynched a fucking protective role that wasn't even directly counterclaimed.
Why should I not believe Artanis' claim? And unless NaCl is literally suicidal, why the fuck would he do this as mafia? You need to answer these questions rather than just scream your assumptions in the thread. Yes, doing this would be suicidal as NaCl. That's why we are lynching Artanis who made a claim that as town made no fucking sense at all and outed a powerrole in the process. It makes a lot of sense if you believe he's just fucking mafia. The crumb is obvious, and not something I think scum Artanis does very often. Town Artanis feels pressured, town Artanis feels like his role is outed anyway, so he claims. Is it really such a difficult sequence of events to understand? This is what I dislike the most about yamato. Even if we ignore that the crumb is not obvious to anyone else he just assumes that town Artanis felt pressured and claimed because of that. How on earth is it even possible to reach this conclusion with the way the claim went down when Artanis said something like "I am bored.... btw I am JK" to claim for example? It looks like he knows that Artanis is town. That's exactly the point I raised when I pointed to the "what a dumb play"-quotes of yamato. Could you explain your other scumleans? Not with quoted posts, no. Tomorrow I'll do that, but I'm way too tired to do this now. My Artanis' scum read comes mainly from your post. I like the idea of "too experienced for a dumb move so that might be a scum claim". Fuba since he went at me when I started going on yamato. However he rather early went on Yamato, too, so that weakens my read. That's why I lean him null with a scum tendency and not scum. Marv, because he got in that fight with yamato and that felt way over the top. Was that sufficient? meh... you base all your reads on association with yamato which is pretty dangerous. Yeah true. Probably change my reads depending on this. However, don't we have EoD by now?
In 1 hour. Nobody seems to give a shit though.
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On June 07 2015 07:09 NaCl`y wrote:
I'm here, albeit sporadically. I feel uneasy about boxerfred. Very uneasy and I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's because he seems to have sheeped all of my reads and made it look like his own? I'm not quite sure.
It's also a bit disconcerting that all of the people suddenly popped up, voted yamato and then afk'd again.
Yes, it is. I would think townyamato would at least bother to show up though.
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