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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 15:36 GMT
#473
Also before I go I will answer your question about the links Shock: He asked me to give me some of my past games since he never played with me before so ya I gave him some and told there's more in the database if he wants to take a look.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 18:20 GMT
#503
I just got home and got a question:
On June 10 2015 00:41 batsnacks wrote:
Who are you lynching today LS? You need to convince 7 people...

Maybe one of the lurkers because the game is pretty inactive and there might be potential mafia in there as much I hate policy lynching lurkers it might be out best shot hitting scum :\
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 18:26 GMT
#505
On June 10 2015 03:22 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and got a question:
On June 10 2015 00:41 batsnacks wrote:
Who are you lynching today LS? You need to convince 7 people...

Maybe one of the lurkers because the game is pretty inactive and there might be potential mafia in there as much I hate policy lynching lurkers it might be out best shot hitting scum :\


So pick one. You're like in huge danger of being lynched.

Idk maybe shock since he haven't done much except posting like 2 huge posts that's all I can remember of him.
##Vote: ShoCkeey
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 18:40 GMT
#523
On June 10 2015 03:29 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:22 batsnacks wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and got a question:
On June 10 2015 00:41 batsnacks wrote:
Who are you lynching today LS? You need to convince 7 people...

Maybe one of the lurkers because the game is pretty inactive and there might be potential mafia in there as much I hate policy lynching lurkers it might be out best shot hitting scum :\


So pick one. You're like in huge danger of being lynched.

Idk maybe shock since he haven't done much except posting like 2 huge posts that's all I can remember of him.
##Vote: ShoCkeey


BM thinks this is the best shockey has ever played. You're the meta master what do you say about that?

From what I had read the guy normally have a small filter regardless of his alignment and seemed to be more defensive as scum than town and he doesn't seem that defensive this game from the posts he did(shrugs). I know Stutters normally not a active player as Town compared to his scum game and he loves to bus his scummates as scum so :\
##Unvote
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 18:41 GMT
#524
On June 10 2015 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:29 batsnacks wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:22 batsnacks wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and got a question:
On June 10 2015 00:41 batsnacks wrote:
Who are you lynching today LS? You need to convince 7 people...

Maybe one of the lurkers because the game is pretty inactive and there might be potential mafia in there as much I hate policy lynching lurkers it might be out best shot hitting scum :\


So pick one. You're like in huge danger of being lynched.

Idk maybe shock since he haven't done much except posting like 2 huge posts that's all I can remember of him.
##Vote: ShoCkeey


BM thinks this is the best shockey has ever played. You're the meta master what do you say about that?

From what I had read the guy normally have a small filter regardless of his alignment and seemed to be more defensive as scum than town and he doesn't seem that defensive this game from the posts he did(shrugs). I know Stutters normally not a active player as Town compared to his scum game and he loves to bus his scummates as scum so :\
##Unvote

To add on my point to Stutters he is easier to read the more he posts.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 20:09 GMT
#541
I still thinking who to lynch but I still need to put my vote somewhere. Who should I lynch Bats?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 20:30 GMT
#553
Honestly despite the fact I know how to read Stutters he prob the best lynch even it's on policy and I hope he picks up before EoD so I can get a better tell on him. Just a reminder this just on pure policy from me and I normally don't do that but it prob the best place to put my vote in my opinion for now.
##Vote: Stutters
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 20:31 GMT
#554
Forgot bbcode and full name >.<
##Vote: Stutters695
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 20:41 GMT
#562
On June 10 2015 05:39 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 05:35 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 10 2015 05:33 batsnacks wrote:
On June 10 2015 05:29 batsnacks wrote:
On June 10 2015 05:17 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 10 2015 05:05 batsnacks wrote:
On June 10 2015 05:01 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 10 2015 04:59 batsnacks wrote:
I think we should all vote stutters unless he comes back and towns himself. If stutters does come back to town himself we can switch to LS at the last minute. This plan assumes town is cool enough to not afk and accidentally no lynch.


Why do you make a case on Bill Murray but proposes a lynch on two different people?


My bill case relies on unflipped associations. I think bugs could be mafia for what bm said and I think bm could be mafia for what I said but I don't want to lynch either of them over stutters and LS is being weird.


Your case actually relies on meta. Also, if you think that case is weak or flawed, why even posting when Bill is under suspicions but backtracking right after?


Yes meta and unflipped associations. I said bill as mafia likes to make big, possibly high risk, high reward plays. If you and bugs are town, that would qualify. I do not know that you and bugs are town, in fact I wouldn't be shocked if bugs were mafia for what bill said. I did think the case was worth posting though.


I was also thinking about bill and shockey being mafia together and bill going out on a huge limb to push obvious townies and save obvious scums but again... Unflipped associations and not worth voting on.


I also thought this, and I think you also has a good shot on being mafia with them because you refuse to lynch one of those two.


Brother

Have you been smoking the weed?

Just like this?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 20:56 GMT
#569
On June 10 2015 05:50 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 05:47 yamato77 wrote:
Kickstart really making no sense. I'm really questioning his alignment.

For the record, I am a dick. Yes I think Shining is probably town but I disagree with everything he says.

I also disagree with everything Bill posts but that doesnt mean much. I don't know how to read him and that makes me very unlikely to lynch him.

Anyone doubting the lynch on LS need only to look at his filter and see just how uninterested in finding mafia this guy is. A lot of his posting is quite weak and he's really only attempting to feign interest or care when it's obvious that tonally he couldn't give a shit less and he hasn't really had any strong reads the entire game.


Every single game this argument is made concerning LS. D2/3 if he's mafia he really really drops off. It's way more apparent than any of his D1 stuff.

Haven't you played with him before?

He had played with me before 3 times (Aperture 4, Ippo, and Assassination) in each of those games I was town but in Ippo Yamato was scum.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 21:48 GMT
#593
On June 10 2015 06:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, done throwing a tantrum and I'm going to play to my win condition now. Before I move on, though, one thing is clear:

LS IS STILL THE BEST LYNCH. We need to consolidate quickly or we risk no-lynching. Possibly worse, we risk lynching into a player who hasn't even done anything yet, on pure policy. Yes, lurkers are bad. Yes, lynching lurkers is nice, but ONLY when you have no decent alternative.

This game is actually not as bad as ones I've been in before, given that BM is BM and probably scum anyway, and he's the major reason this game sucks (because there happen to be some people who somehow agree with his shit logic)

To give you an idea of what you are sheeping if you agree with BM, just take a look at this gem:

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 15:47 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 08 2015 15:18 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 15:01 Bill Murray wrote:
##unvote
##vote: WBG


Can you explain this?

ad hominem is a logical fallacy and indicative of scum


Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 12:06 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 09 2015 11:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Bugs I think activity will pick up soon don't rage quit like that and I also think your town :o

you're an idiot


anyway there's not much else to say about BM other than he's probably one of the bottom 3 players on this forum regardless of this alignment, and of all the talk of policy lynching in this game is probably the only player who is consistently worthy of one. From my recollection his town play is actually not this cringy so perhaps I am being a little overzealous here, but I do not ever recall a time where I found BM adequately established his own innocence or provided anything useful in terms of scumhunting. Let's leave it at that-I doubt that anyone is willing to lynch BM today but we'll need to lynch him to win the game eventually.

As for why LS is still the best lynch for today:

1. LS continues to exhibit one of the most classic scum traits. A lack of effort, even under pressure.

To give you an idea, his "meta case" on me being town was completely inaccurate. Here are the things he said:

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay bugs is totes town he got very similar formatting and stuff to his latest town games to his scum games and his line of questioning to FreezingFoot is also similar how did his line of questioning in his town games. Also Bugs I do tend to do that hey I will be back later stuff a lot regardless of my alignment Also I truly was bored on the smurf debate mainly because it isn't exactly important to know who the smurf is although would be helpful for meta purposes :o Now that the game isn't focused on the great smurf debate I also got a meta read on bats being town he always a interesting person I just hope he doesn't lynch himself again :O Onegu haven't done much so null on him meta wise.


Jesus, can this be more obvious? Look how many words he uses to say almost completely worthless things. Who cares if LS has town reads? They are not even substantiated by anything. Which questions did I ask of other players in previous games? How is my formatting similar, and what the hell does that have to do with alignment? Which games of mine did he read and why does he not provide concrete examples here?

Another good question to ask would be why he never mentions yamato or tries to convince people to vote yamato after voting yamato himself. In his town games LS generally tends to do this. He asks other people about the reads he has at that moment, just like any other townie would do. Instead, LS quickly moves off yamato after yamato enters the thread (and until yamato entered the thread LS made no effort to convince anyone of his supposed read, which had to be one of the meekest things I've ever seen)

The part that proves LS is full of shit is this post:

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 22:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I back and will answer Breshke's question regarding WBG's meta: From my research he tends to be much more aggressive and more thoughtful as town than scum which demonstrated pretty damn well this game when he pressured FreezingFoot and made a case on me although he is wrong on my alignment since I know Town. As scum he tends to more lurky and not as thoughtful from what I can tell from the couple of games I had checked out from the database regarding his meta. Also @Onegu I didn't scumread you for not claiming VT I just only said you cashed in on claiming VT Day 1 as scum before(XXX) and everyone is VT by default since the Miller is not selfaware also there wasn't much stuff in the thread to work with? I got the following as Town:
WBG: Meta which I just explained.
FreezingFoot: His reaction to WBG seemed pretty townie and looked townie outside of it.
bats: Seems much more in line of his town meta compared to scum meta from my experience with him where the only time I played vs his scum he was I think a little bit more serious that game.
Breshke: He seemed much more focused this game and willing to ask questions more than his normal scum game which I manged to catch him before
BM: Although I think he's wrong on his meta read on WBG he did push it and he actually believes and looked townie for pushing someone who I think is Top Town.
The rest are Null just wish a couple of the people would start posting more


I am NOT lurky as scum. I am far from it, and some of my most post-heavy games have been as scum. I am constantly on the attack and I lead lynches as either alignment. I also make cases regardless of alignment. Look at Storm Mafia, Mini Mafia X, My Little Pony, Couples Therapy, Arkham City or Space Station and tell me in which of those games I lurked. In fact, I don't think I've ever lurked when playing mafia on this forum.

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and got a question:
On June 10 2015 00:41 batsnacks wrote:
Who are you lynching today LS? You need to convince 7 people...

Maybe one of the lurkers because the game is pretty inactive and there might be potential mafia in there as much I hate policy lynching lurkers it might be out best shot hitting scum :\


Again, meekness. Look at how little LS wants to strike a confrontation with someone.

This is so obvious in his vote patterns too. Votes someone, then completely backs off almost immediately at the first sign of resistance.

Can anyone tell me what LS's opinions are this game? Can you tell me, based on those opinions, what the reasons are?

Who does LS think is scum and who has LS actually pushed? I certainly can't answer any of these questions without reading LS's posts, and every time I read them I discover gems like these:

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly despite the fact I know how to read Stutters he prob the best lynch even it's on policy and I hope he picks up before EoD so I can get a better tell on him. Just a reminder this just on pure policy from me and I normally don't do that but it prob the best place to put my vote in my opinion for now.
##Vote: Stutters


A constant barrage of worry from LS about where his vote's going to end up.

The scum translation of this is: "Hey guys I'm totally not scum so when this dude ends up flipping town please don't blame me, this is my warning to you that I actually don't have a really good reason for voting this dude but I'm going to do it anyway because I have to and please don't hurt me after"

just kill him

Ugh was anyone questioning if Bats was town? Hint there wasn't. I usually like to put my vote on someone who I think are scum but unfortunately we just have a bunch of lurkers so it better to shoot fish a in barrel on this lynch. Also on my vote on Shock I intially thought he could be scum but then read his meta and discovered he at best would be a policy lynch since he haven't posted much but his large posts looked better on second look. Also at the time you haven't posted much but I do think you're town just wrong on my alignment though
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 21:50 GMT
#596
On June 10 2015 06:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 06:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, done throwing a tantrum and I'm going to play to my win condition now. Before I move on, though, one thing is clear:

LS IS STILL THE BEST LYNCH. We need to consolidate quickly or we risk no-lynching. Possibly worse, we risk lynching into a player who hasn't even done anything yet, on pure policy. Yes, lurkers are bad. Yes, lynching lurkers is nice, but ONLY when you have no decent alternative.

This game is actually not as bad as ones I've been in before, given that BM is BM and probably scum anyway, and he's the major reason this game sucks (because there happen to be some people who somehow agree with his shit logic)

To give you an idea of what you are sheeping if you agree with BM, just take a look at this gem:

On June 08 2015 15:47 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 08 2015 15:18 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 15:01 Bill Murray wrote:
##unvote
##vote: WBG


Can you explain this?

ad hominem is a logical fallacy and indicative of scum


On June 09 2015 12:06 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 09 2015 11:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Bugs I think activity will pick up soon don't rage quit like that and I also think your town :o

you're an idiot


anyway there's not much else to say about BM other than he's probably one of the bottom 3 players on this forum regardless of this alignment, and of all the talk of policy lynching in this game is probably the only player who is consistently worthy of one. From my recollection his town play is actually not this cringy so perhaps I am being a little overzealous here, but I do not ever recall a time where I found BM adequately established his own innocence or provided anything useful in terms of scumhunting. Let's leave it at that-I doubt that anyone is willing to lynch BM today but we'll need to lynch him to win the game eventually.

As for why LS is still the best lynch for today:

1. LS continues to exhibit one of the most classic scum traits. A lack of effort, even under pressure.

To give you an idea, his "meta case" on me being town was completely inaccurate. Here are the things he said:

On June 09 2015 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay bugs is totes town he got very similar formatting and stuff to his latest town games to his scum games and his line of questioning to FreezingFoot is also similar how did his line of questioning in his town games. Also Bugs I do tend to do that hey I will be back later stuff a lot regardless of my alignment Also I truly was bored on the smurf debate mainly because it isn't exactly important to know who the smurf is although would be helpful for meta purposes :o Now that the game isn't focused on the great smurf debate I also got a meta read on bats being town he always a interesting person I just hope he doesn't lynch himself again :O Onegu haven't done much so null on him meta wise.


Jesus, can this be more obvious? Look how many words he uses to say almost completely worthless things. Who cares if LS has town reads? They are not even substantiated by anything. Which questions did I ask of other players in previous games? How is my formatting similar, and what the hell does that have to do with alignment? Which games of mine did he read and why does he not provide concrete examples here?

Another good question to ask would be why he never mentions yamato or tries to convince people to vote yamato after voting yamato himself. In his town games LS generally tends to do this. He asks other people about the reads he has at that moment, just like any other townie would do. Instead, LS quickly moves off yamato after yamato enters the thread (and until yamato entered the thread LS made no effort to convince anyone of his supposed read, which had to be one of the meekest things I've ever seen)

The part that proves LS is full of shit is this post:

On June 09 2015 22:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I back and will answer Breshke's question regarding WBG's meta: From my research he tends to be much more aggressive and more thoughtful as town than scum which demonstrated pretty damn well this game when he pressured FreezingFoot and made a case on me although he is wrong on my alignment since I know Town. As scum he tends to more lurky and not as thoughtful from what I can tell from the couple of games I had checked out from the database regarding his meta. Also @Onegu I didn't scumread you for not claiming VT I just only said you cashed in on claiming VT Day 1 as scum before(XXX) and everyone is VT by default since the Miller is not selfaware also there wasn't much stuff in the thread to work with? I got the following as Town:
WBG: Meta which I just explained.
FreezingFoot: His reaction to WBG seemed pretty townie and looked townie outside of it.
bats: Seems much more in line of his town meta compared to scum meta from my experience with him where the only time I played vs his scum he was I think a little bit more serious that game.
Breshke: He seemed much more focused this game and willing to ask questions more than his normal scum game which I manged to catch him before
BM: Although I think he's wrong on his meta read on WBG he did push it and he actually believes and looked townie for pushing someone who I think is Top Town.
The rest are Null just wish a couple of the people would start posting more


I am NOT lurky as scum. I am far from it, and some of my most post-heavy games have been as scum. I am constantly on the attack and I lead lynches as either alignment. I also make cases regardless of alignment. Look at Storm Mafia, Mini Mafia X, My Little Pony, Couples Therapy, Arkham City or Space Station and tell me in which of those games I lurked. In fact, I don't think I've ever lurked when playing mafia on this forum.

On June 10 2015 03:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and got a question:
On June 10 2015 00:41 batsnacks wrote:
Who are you lynching today LS? You need to convince 7 people...

Maybe one of the lurkers because the game is pretty inactive and there might be potential mafia in there as much I hate policy lynching lurkers it might be out best shot hitting scum :\


Again, meekness. Look at how little LS wants to strike a confrontation with someone.

This is so obvious in his vote patterns too. Votes someone, then completely backs off almost immediately at the first sign of resistance.

Can anyone tell me what LS's opinions are this game? Can you tell me, based on those opinions, what the reasons are?

Who does LS think is scum and who has LS actually pushed? I certainly can't answer any of these questions without reading LS's posts, and every time I read them I discover gems like these:

On June 10 2015 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly despite the fact I know how to read Stutters he prob the best lynch even it's on policy and I hope he picks up before EoD so I can get a better tell on him. Just a reminder this just on pure policy from me and I normally don't do that but it prob the best place to put my vote in my opinion for now.
##Vote: Stutters


A constant barrage of worry from LS about where his vote's going to end up.

The scum translation of this is: "Hey guys I'm totally not scum so when this dude ends up flipping town please don't blame me, this is my warning to you that I actually don't have a really good reason for voting this dude but I'm going to do it anyway because I have to and please don't hurt me after"

just kill him

Ugh was anyone questioning if Bats was town? Hint there wasn't. I usually like to put my vote on someone who I think are scum but unfortunately we just have a bunch of lurkers so it better to shoot fish a in barrel on this lynch. Also on my vote on Shock I intially thought he could be scum but then read his meta and discovered he at best would be a policy lynch since he haven't posted much but his large posts looked better on second look. Also at the time you haven't posted much but I do think you're town just wrong on my alignment though

EBWOP: I meant you and Yamato are town but you both wrong on my alignment
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 21:52 GMT
#601
On June 10 2015 06:50 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 06:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 10 2015 06:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2015 06:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, done throwing a tantrum and I'm going to play to my win condition now. Before I move on, though, one thing is clear:

LS IS STILL THE BEST LYNCH. We need to consolidate quickly or we risk no-lynching. Possibly worse, we risk lynching into a player who hasn't even done anything yet, on pure policy. Yes, lurkers are bad. Yes, lynching lurkers is nice, but ONLY when you have no decent alternative.

This game is actually not as bad as ones I've been in before, given that BM is BM and probably scum anyway, and he's the major reason this game sucks (because there happen to be some people who somehow agree with his shit logic)

To give you an idea of what you are sheeping if you agree with BM, just take a look at this gem:

On June 08 2015 15:47 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 08 2015 15:18 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 15:01 Bill Murray wrote:
##unvote
##vote: WBG


Can you explain this?

ad hominem is a logical fallacy and indicative of scum


On June 09 2015 12:06 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 09 2015 11:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Bugs I think activity will pick up soon don't rage quit like that and I also think your town :o

you're an idiot


anyway there's not much else to say about BM other than he's probably one of the bottom 3 players on this forum regardless of this alignment, and of all the talk of policy lynching in this game is probably the only player who is consistently worthy of one. From my recollection his town play is actually not this cringy so perhaps I am being a little overzealous here, but I do not ever recall a time where I found BM adequately established his own innocence or provided anything useful in terms of scumhunting. Let's leave it at that-I doubt that anyone is willing to lynch BM today but we'll need to lynch him to win the game eventually.

As for why LS is still the best lynch for today:

1. LS continues to exhibit one of the most classic scum traits. A lack of effort, even under pressure.

To give you an idea, his "meta case" on me being town was completely inaccurate. Here are the things he said:

On June 09 2015 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay bugs is totes town he got very similar formatting and stuff to his latest town games to his scum games and his line of questioning to FreezingFoot is also similar how did his line of questioning in his town games. Also Bugs I do tend to do that hey I will be back later stuff a lot regardless of my alignment Also I truly was bored on the smurf debate mainly because it isn't exactly important to know who the smurf is although would be helpful for meta purposes :o Now that the game isn't focused on the great smurf debate I also got a meta read on bats being town he always a interesting person I just hope he doesn't lynch himself again :O Onegu haven't done much so null on him meta wise.


Jesus, can this be more obvious? Look how many words he uses to say almost completely worthless things. Who cares if LS has town reads? They are not even substantiated by anything. Which questions did I ask of other players in previous games? How is my formatting similar, and what the hell does that have to do with alignment? Which games of mine did he read and why does he not provide concrete examples here?

Another good question to ask would be why he never mentions yamato or tries to convince people to vote yamato after voting yamato himself. In his town games LS generally tends to do this. He asks other people about the reads he has at that moment, just like any other townie would do. Instead, LS quickly moves off yamato after yamato enters the thread (and until yamato entered the thread LS made no effort to convince anyone of his supposed read, which had to be one of the meekest things I've ever seen)

The part that proves LS is full of shit is this post:

On June 09 2015 22:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I back and will answer Breshke's question regarding WBG's meta: From my research he tends to be much more aggressive and more thoughtful as town than scum which demonstrated pretty damn well this game when he pressured FreezingFoot and made a case on me although he is wrong on my alignment since I know Town. As scum he tends to more lurky and not as thoughtful from what I can tell from the couple of games I had checked out from the database regarding his meta. Also @Onegu I didn't scumread you for not claiming VT I just only said you cashed in on claiming VT Day 1 as scum before(XXX) and everyone is VT by default since the Miller is not selfaware also there wasn't much stuff in the thread to work with? I got the following as Town:
WBG: Meta which I just explained.
FreezingFoot: His reaction to WBG seemed pretty townie and looked townie outside of it.
bats: Seems much more in line of his town meta compared to scum meta from my experience with him where the only time I played vs his scum he was I think a little bit more serious that game.
Breshke: He seemed much more focused this game and willing to ask questions more than his normal scum game which I manged to catch him before
BM: Although I think he's wrong on his meta read on WBG he did push it and he actually believes and looked townie for pushing someone who I think is Top Town.
The rest are Null just wish a couple of the people would start posting more


I am NOT lurky as scum. I am far from it, and some of my most post-heavy games have been as scum. I am constantly on the attack and I lead lynches as either alignment. I also make cases regardless of alignment. Look at Storm Mafia, Mini Mafia X, My Little Pony, Couples Therapy, Arkham City or Space Station and tell me in which of those games I lurked. In fact, I don't think I've ever lurked when playing mafia on this forum.

On June 10 2015 03:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and got a question:
On June 10 2015 00:41 batsnacks wrote:
Who are you lynching today LS? You need to convince 7 people...

Maybe one of the lurkers because the game is pretty inactive and there might be potential mafia in there as much I hate policy lynching lurkers it might be out best shot hitting scum :\


Again, meekness. Look at how little LS wants to strike a confrontation with someone.

This is so obvious in his vote patterns too. Votes someone, then completely backs off almost immediately at the first sign of resistance.

Can anyone tell me what LS's opinions are this game? Can you tell me, based on those opinions, what the reasons are?

Who does LS think is scum and who has LS actually pushed? I certainly can't answer any of these questions without reading LS's posts, and every time I read them I discover gems like these:

On June 10 2015 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly despite the fact I know how to read Stutters he prob the best lynch even it's on policy and I hope he picks up before EoD so I can get a better tell on him. Just a reminder this just on pure policy from me and I normally don't do that but it prob the best place to put my vote in my opinion for now.
##Vote: Stutters


A constant barrage of worry from LS about where his vote's going to end up.

The scum translation of this is: "Hey guys I'm totally not scum so when this dude ends up flipping town please don't blame me, this is my warning to you that I actually don't have a really good reason for voting this dude but I'm going to do it anyway because I have to and please don't hurt me after"

just kill him

Ugh was anyone questioning if Bats was town? Hint there wasn't. I usually like to put my vote on someone who I think are scum but unfortunately we just have a bunch of lurkers so it better to shoot fish a in barrel on this lynch. Also on my vote on Shock I intially thought he could be scum but then read his meta and discovered he at best would be a policy lynch since he haven't posted much but his large posts looked better on second look. Also at the time you haven't posted much but I do think you're town just wrong on my alignment though


If no one was questioning if bats was town what the fuck is the point of saying he's town


foots said I could be mafia with BM.

Aren't Associative reads bad?
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LightningStrike
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June 09 2015 21:57 GMT
#615
On June 10 2015 06:55 Kickstart wrote:
Bill is being clowny. Foot read my post on LS, succinctly tells why I think he is scummy.

Also LS still ignoring my rather simple request to scum read someone other than lurkers.

Honestly I think the active players are town but if I had to stab a chance of someone being scum from the actives maybe BM but I still think he's most likely town here.
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LightningStrike
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June 09 2015 21:59 GMT
#619
On June 10 2015 06:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 06:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 10 2015 06:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 10 2015 06:52 FreezingFoot wrote:
I am HIGHLY against LS since most of what you said could also come from his town meta. He is ALWAYS this passive, and I wonder

I didn't understand the self-focused point. I think the best point in your case is the part where he calls yamato scum but does nothing with it. But it also fits his passiveness as either alignment.

If you take aggressiveness alone, you should be strongly townreading BM. BM is a WAY better lynch today, seconded only by shockey


I don't count aggressiveness as a scum trait.

BM is scum because he is pushing bad ideas and because he has a history of pushing bad lynches and being a brute as scum.


I meant that if passiveness is a scum trait, in the other hand, BM must be town under your conception.

I am totally against voting LS today.


it's not a scum trait. Unwillingness to encounter confrontation is different from passiveness/complacency as I described in my previous post.

Perhaps passiveness is a bad word to describe the behaviour that LS has right now. My interpretation of LS's posts is that he does things so that he will go unnoticed. Townies don't do that consciously. I get the impression that with every post, LS has this in mind.

I would do that regardless on my alignment in these type of slow games :o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 22:25 GMT
#702
ya I about to lynch and I wont stop it since I doing Fight Kiln in RS3 :O
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 22:30 GMT
#716
Okay I just going to vote to save myself potentally.
##Unvote
Vote: Bill Murray
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Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 22:31 GMT
#723
I think BM might flip scum and Stutters is most likely getting Modkilled we lynch BM if I live through this lynch guys.
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Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 22:59 GMT
#805
Saving myself again.
##Unvote
##Vote:Stutters695
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United States14277 Posts
June 09 2015 23:10 GMT
#819
gG Had no motivation to play when I saw I rolled scum
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