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On June 11 2015 13:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
I actually think the shining could be the missing link we are looking for
Something bothers me about the way that dude posts and it probably means he is scum.
On June 11 2015 14:34 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 14:28 yamato77 wrote:
Don't talk about WBG anymore, it's just clogging the thread with incessant arguing.
If you're town, you should look into at least one other player and give a solid read. I know you think BM is town for whatever reason but what do you think about Shockey or The Shining? ShoCkeyy I like a lot more than The Shining. I will be fine killing The Shining until he try hards like I have seen him before. He can make good cases and contribute. I give him a D1 pass since I believe he doesn't find D1's useful without deaths. Even now though I think he is underperforming what I expect of him as town.
Lmao you two would rather kill me than each other. So who gets blamed for the mislynch? And who looks worse since you'd both be voting with your scumreads? 
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I'm just going to respond to posts as I read them because I'm annoyed and don't really care right now.
I didn't vote Kickstart for PR.
Yeah Shockeyy looks tons of awesome for saying Onegu is hiding this game and he's worried about him and votes him during a majority lynch by himself while not pushing it or giving any sort of proof as to why Onegu is scum.
Tube speaks in too many absolutes. BM is totes town. Bugs is scum, period. It's oddly unsettling. Couple it with being OK killing me and I'm prone to omgus. I'm not trying hard. I know I'm not trying hard. But I still know my alignment. And I've got one or two key towntells for me ppl who have played with me before should see. Even if not, w.e, I'm here.
My LS read. My very first comment on him is idk how to read him. I lynch him as town thinking he's scum. I leave him as scum and he ends up flipping through lynch or vig snot. I've correctly read him maybe once. So yeah, I was always going to be wishy washy on that. And I didn't want to lynch him because he was interacting and Tube made a good point about scumLS falling off. However, as we got closer to eod, it became blatantly obvious LS was giving us nothing and I wanted to avoid the no lynch. And if I'm scum and starting late, I don't think I enter the game late with a post saying idk how to read my scummate but I could lynch him. That's fucking stupid. But I've rolled scum all of 1 times so you never know, right?
OK Bugs you need to check my past games. Youve had time. What did you find? It's been almost two hours.
Bill is omgus but idc cuz he's still scum to me. Forced reaction? Yeah yours was longer and right at the flip, MUST have been authentic.
Bugs, I said he was policy WITH A GUT SCUM FEELING. I didn't say I was AGAINST a policy lynch. I even made a post asking why we would let any lurkers(see:Shockeyy) get away with anything in a setup like this. So obviously I voted to make him DO SOMETHING. He posted and oh look, I started rethinking my vote on him. To then show up 2 hours later to bus my scummate as the 6th vote right? I switched because GlowingFoot was yelling to switch to BM and he was my scumread. I realized no one was moving so I went back. How is this weird?
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Tube you just said you'd be fine killing me. But you think my eod was towny. Wtf
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On June 11 2015 14:31 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 14:19 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2015 14:12 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 14:10 yamato77 wrote:
hm, maybe not
his mafia filter is actually pretty decent huh? I'm looking at your games to see how I should read you. You seem quite capable as mafia. I'm at a crossroads. You're definitely in the possible mafia and I don't know if I believe that you believe what you're saying or not. You sure seem convinced, but that's probably not outside your ability at this level. And I don't think you're good enough as town yet to get away from this really poor tunnel of WBG. Outside of WBG, who could be mafia to you? There's at least one more. I'm undecided on you, ShoCkeyy and The Shining. I don't think Batsnacks reads at all which makes me think of JoaT when I was certain he was mafia but turned out he was didn't care at all town. Onegu I think puts in more effort as scum. You should never town me for my activity level, tunnelness, or belief. I believed every case I brought in my mafia game except the one on Breshke. And I am certain that if I was on a mafia team with Rsoultin (my scummate) and LightningStrike in this game we would bus the shit out of him. And we would do it just like Bugs is doing. Rsoultin would be the busser and I would be midlevel but vote LS. Guaranteed.
And this. You're so convinced and dead set on WBG but...every one of your other reads here is...meh. Undecided on 3 players. You don't give a read on bats, just some meta info. Same with Onegu. Please make crystal clear easily understandable reads, I'm bad at this game, treat me like it.
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On June 11 2015 13:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why the fuck would a day 1 bus be that much greater than a day 2 bus AND a kp
99% of townies aren't going to be smart enough to go back to reread day 1 play if a mafia decides to no lynch on the premise of not having enough info day 1, then goes ahead and changes his mind day 2 to bus his useless teammate.
It literally makes no difference which day the bus occurs if mafia is looking for towncred. However in this setup there is a clear choice that makes sense and that's day 2 because you automatically forfeit a fucking KP.
If you're actually town and cannot understand how unfathomably bad that kind of decision would be and why it's a complete non possibility you deserve to die for having such consistently terrible opinions
This. Tone aside, this is a good post. Like even with an unmotivated scummer like LS, if scum was voting him, they could've tried to get off the lynch to save that bullet. It looks so damn obviously bad that Tube really tried over and over to save LS on the premise of if he's scum, he will get worse and we will catch him.
It's like he was setting himself up to bus LS after the bullet was used, then be able to say "see? I told you. Easy to catch after d1" and no one would question it.
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And a general apology to the thread. I promised to step up activity at work (I play at work Weds-Sun) but I got shafted with a 16 hr shift and it ruined my mood and my day. I'm still here at work right now and decided night posting was better than not posting. It only gets better from here.
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No, I'm mad that you said you'd kill me for it, when Onegu and Shockeyy are also players under the radar and not playing how I've seen them play before. Inconsistency. And when have I ever been OK with being scummed or lynched as town? Like bugs brings me up as this "missing link" and now out of all the players, you're okay saying you would kill me. And you said that either after you read my filter and thought my EoD was towny so you want to kill someone with towny points, or before you read my filter, which is a very bold statement and horrible town play if you were willing to kill me before even reading.
So which was it?
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And you conveniently quoted my post about me not trying hard but deleted the part where I mentioned my town tells. And they're more obvious now. Look at my d1s and d2s in past town games. You'll notice a few similarities, regardless of post size or activity level. I just don't want to meta myself.
Why did you delete that part off the quote? It makes it blatantly obvious that although I do not think I'm playing up to standard, I'm playing well enough and have done enough to feel my townread isn't terribly hard to those familiar with my meta. And you're one of those.
And as I'm typing that, my tinfoil went off. Yamato, why do you think I'm town? Do you still think I'm town? I remember you saying my arguments were bad so there's gotta be another reason for you TR me.
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Yamato I was honestly expecting a bit more than that but it's still an alright answer for now, I guess.
Tube, I'm sorry but I've also done my best not to attack you, personally. It's just a thing of mine. If I start feeling unmotivated, I latch onto the fire that comes from someone scumming/wanting to kill me. Even a statement like that is enough to fire me up. I also got weary that you making that town light comment(clever btw with my name and all) was an attempt at buddying me once you saw I was starting to come back to thread. And I can't help but feel like now you're backtracking.
But if you are in fact town, be glad I'm firing it back up. Ive got filters to dive including yours and its 320 am here. I'll probably actively post here for a while longer to kill time at work but I'll dive tomorrow.
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So I'm totally and completely not even mentioned in Foot's filter. Considering we know its GB now, a player who has played with me and coached me as town before, and also played in the only scum game I've ever played on TL, I find it interesting that she hasn't once mentioned me or tried to read me or have me lynched.
Wait a sec. GB IS a she, right? So Tube did in fact know that Foot was a girl before any of us.
Or is GB not a girl and I'm making an ass of myself?
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In that case disregard and LMAO SORRRY GB.
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Question still stands, though. I know I've been a bit under the radar but I was also inactive as hell D1 the scumgame I won against GB. Y u no acknowledge me this game?
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On June 11 2015 23:21 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 17:09 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2015 16:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
I just got home not too long ago. Longass flights with longass delays. At least I'm not stuck in Chicago. 完全
##unvote
##vote The Shining Why are we switching, exactly? His recent posting has gotten better, not worse. I disagree with you there on Shining. His posts haven't moved from where they started. You should read his scum game. Also I want to poke around a bit since BM is like near 100% to die anyway
OK so I didn't move from the 70% town you had in your spreadsheet? And lol...my one scum game. So definitive. You make so much sense.
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On June 12 2015 00:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I don't even know what the fuck the Onegu rule is. The reason is to try and get something out of him, he's turning into the player with the least amount of posts while not posting anything that has value to it. And The Shining posting about Foot with out even reading the thread when Foot accidentally posted under his main and just started to reply to the most recent postings.
Bats, vote all you want for me, but if you're saying you may know who priest is, then why the fuck did you switch vote to me?
All in all Shining is looking more scummy to me, bats vote against me looks scummy as fuck and Onegu's play here isn't scummy yet, but it could be a different route than what he played his last game with me as scum.
Wtf is this eve
Posting about Foot without reading thread? You're not reading. I clearly said "now that we know its GB" in the same post with foot. And asked GBs gender. Dumb dumb dumb.
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On June 12 2015 02:12 FreezingFoot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 14:39 The Shining wrote:On June 11 2015 13:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
I actually think the shining could be the missing link we are looking for
Something bothers me about the way that dude posts and it probably means he is scum. On June 11 2015 14:34 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 14:28 yamato77 wrote:
Don't talk about WBG anymore, it's just clogging the thread with incessant arguing.
If you're town, you should look into at least one other player and give a solid read. I know you think BM is town for whatever reason but what do you think about Shockey or The Shining? ShoCkeyy I like a lot more than The Shining. I will be fine killing The Shining until he try hards like I have seen him before. He can make good cases and contribute. I give him a D1 pass since I believe he doesn't find D1's useful without deaths. Even now though I think he is underperforming what I expect of him as town. Lmao you two would rather kill me than each other. So who gets blamed for the mislynch? And who looks worse since you'd both be voting with your scumreads? I was reading the thread and saw this. This is so fucking odd. A whole discussion is going on between bugs and tube sock and the shining focuses on the faint suspicions both players had on him. He is too self aware to the point of calling this out to say he is town ("who gets blamed for the mislynch?"). It's something a town doesn't usually give a shit or aren't aware until it happens
I was trying to point out that both players decided to move on and conveniently landed on me. And I found it suspicious that Tube could scum WBG so damn hard but then have the scumread on me as WBG.
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On June 12 2015 05:55 wherebugsgo wrote:shining can you answer my question please why did you say this Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 15:53 The Shining wrote:
No, I'm mad that you said you'd kill me for it, when Onegu and Shockeyy are also players under the radar and not playing how I've seen them play before. Inconsistency. And when have I ever been OK with being scummed or lynched as town? Like bugs brings me up as this "missing link" and now out of all the players, you're okay saying you would kill me. And you said that either after you read my filter and thought my EoD was towny so you want to kill someone with towny points, or before you read my filter, which is a very bold statement and horrible town play if you were willing to kill me before even reading.
So which was it? when have you played with/seen shockeyy play
Recent mini. Generic boring, I think? Actually shyt I just remembered he was scum that game, we failed to lynch him. That's a mistake on my part, oh well.
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Also finished catching up. Nice, Yamato. Can I just point out that BM flipping scum means if I'm scum, I tried to shenanny from LS onto BM instead of anyone else. I just felt like that needed mentioning. I've had him and pushed him as scum since D1. So I really hope Yamato is right here.
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I voted Foot, Bats, Yamato
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Yeah this makes total sense. I'm in.
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EPT
