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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 08 2015 01:43 GMT
#201
ok so you having the same sentiment as WBG one post later isnt damning
noted but not unvoting sorry
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 08 2015 01:49 GMT
#202
On June 08 2015 10:43 Bill Murray wrote:
ok so you having the same sentiment as WBG one post later isnt damning
noted but not unvoting sorry


I don't think bugs and I have shared sentiments yet. The closest thing I can find that might make you think that is my response to breshke, which, there is/was some confusion from foots about what bugs is doing so I tried to help. I guess you can say I was buddying foots too.

No reason to be sorry about unvoting though if you think buddying makes me mafia.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 08 2015 01:54 GMT
#203
I was buddying breshke too actually. Wow I'm buddies with everyone this is like myspace or smth.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 08 2015 02:08 GMT
#204
bill can we be buddies? I thought your setup speculation was very intelligent and insightful. Broken Flowers is a really good movie. I eat at the Murray Brother's Caddy Shack restaurant at least once a year.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 08 2015 02:08 GMT
#205
Other than BMs reverse game troll bait post hes been ok so far. Expected worse given his reputation around these parts :D
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 08 2015 02:10 GMT
#206
Dont like Bugs summation on foot that "I don't like his entry post" and "he might well be bad town". Like wut.

But I kind of want to discuss with someone other than bugs at the moment. Someone do something crazy so we have another topic to talk about.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 08 2015 02:11 GMT
#207
On June 08 2015 10:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 09:58 Breshke wrote:
On June 08 2015 09:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:56 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:42 Kickstart wrote:
It is helpful by way of making a point. It is not helpful in so far as having the question answered because you ask the question knowing it won't be answered. If he was interested in displaying his identity he would not be in a disguise. It does not take a wise man to posit your question.


you apparently don't understand.

It is in town's benefit to know his identity. If he refuses while taking votes that's anti-town.

So just vote him and see what he does. If he doesn't give town anything what use is he alive? His contribution to this conversation has been a gif in response to my quote post. It is early in the day, but this is a good chance to see how our smurf wants to play the game.


I understand perfectly fine.


No you don't, because you repeatedly have shown an inability to read what I am saying.

I have said twice now that a smurf DOES NOT HAVE TO REVEAL THEMSELVES to satisfy my line of questioning.

I simply want more out of this particular player. The responses I have received so far have been relatively lukewarm at best. However, I'm going to step it up a bit further.


I agree with your general premise but not your methodology. I have already said the important question in regards to our mystery man is whether he will use his identity to impart wisdom and knowledge or to sow confusion.


So did I, you just failed to read where I said it. Twice. Now three times, actually, and if you count this now, four.


You seem to miss the point that had he been interested in revealing his identity he would have done so. This goes back to my earlier question to you: Do you ask him to reveal his identity so that when he refuses you can accuse him? Why would a member of the coven do such a thing when they already know that the outcome will be that he does not revel himself.


Nope. You're not reading. Keep this up and I'm going to just ignore you.


Your argument so far has been that his withholding his identity is suspicious and his posting style thus far is suspicious. But if we do not know his identity how can we judge his posting style as indicative of anything?

All that said, our mystery man does need to choose his path. He either gives us wisdom and clarity or he sows confusion, and his fate is decided by which course of action he chooses to take.


Nope. I am saying you do not understand because, well...you don't.

Let me clarify for you what has happened so far, and what is now worth discussing.

On June 08 2015 08:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway I am kinda sad I didn't roll scum this game but you guys should elevate me to Greater Demon status cause that'll be baller

also if you guys could fill me in on who I should expect to suck this game and when I should be disappointed for someone sucking that would be great


Btw I don't like this opening. Sounds like a guy trying too hard do say "oh I'm town /sob", and asking people for names to work with.


He doesn't like my opening. Sign #1 he doesn't like me.

Cool.

Let's skip over his direct response to my vote, because it was useless.

Third post following my vote:

On June 08 2015 08:48 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:35 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.

But surely if you were an acolyte you would see the wisdom in ones words and not need to know the person's identity to discern its wisdom or lack thereof. Is this attempt to discern this persons true identity something useful for a member of the coven? Do you ask so that you can discredit if he does not oblige? Do you ask to know if he is a powerful and wise acolyte? Both courses of action would be beneficial to the inquisitors, while knowing his true identity or not does not matter to members of the coven. Ones words and actions matter most to the coven, not ones identity.

Only an inquisitor would be so interested in ones identity over ones wisdom.


Would you rather have the smurf be Foolishness, or random lurker X?

What about Ace, or BloodyC0bbler?

How exactly is this purely a scum-motivated question? It arguably helps town far more, given that if the smurf is town scum already know they are town and they are already automatically a threat. Knowing a player's identity is less important to scum. As scum I have left otherwise "good" townies alive to throw off towns before, simply because they were completely wrong.


It's not a scum motivated question. But you questioned nothing. it is a scum behaviour. It's basically a policy lynch that you get behind without compromising yourself. You won't have to rely on building original reads. You just see a townie and justify a push on him without actually caring for his alignment.


What I exhibited is a "scum behaviour" according to Freezingfoot. He didn't like my original post, and he thinks I am not trying to build original reads. He claims I don't care about his alignment.

Fourth post:

On June 08 2015 09:00 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:48 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:35 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
[quote]
Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.

But surely if you were an acolyte you would see the wisdom in ones words and not need to know the person's identity to discern its wisdom or lack thereof. Is this attempt to discern this persons true identity something useful for a member of the coven? Do you ask so that you can discredit if he does not oblige? Do you ask to know if he is a powerful and wise acolyte? Both courses of action would be beneficial to the inquisitors, while knowing his true identity or not does not matter to members of the coven. Ones words and actions matter most to the coven, not ones identity.

Only an inquisitor would be so interested in ones identity over ones wisdom.


Would you rather have the smurf be Foolishness, or random lurker X?

What about Ace, or BloodyC0bbler?

How exactly is this purely a scum-motivated question? It arguably helps town far more, given that if the smurf is town scum already know they are town and they are already automatically a threat. Knowing a player's identity is less important to scum. As scum I have left otherwise "good" townies alive to throw off towns before, simply because they were completely wrong.


It's not a scum motivated question. But you questioned nothing. it is a scum behaviour. It's basically a policy lynch that you get behind without compromising yourself. You won't have to rely on building original reads. You just see a townie and justify a push on him without actually caring for his alignment.


So it's a scum behaviour to question nothing...at the beginning of day 1, when by definition there is nothing to question.

Where do you come up with this logic?


Tell us who you are? It will help town = town approach
You're mafia because you're not telling us who you are = scum approach.


Implicitly calling my approach scum approach. But not directly doing it.

If Freezingfoot thinks my approach is so scummy, in four straight posts....

Why doesn't he vote me? If he tries to get me killed directly that would be one thing, but he's just weakly throwing back mud at me.




Did you not see this post freezingfoot?


I saw it
What about it?

See, this is what I'm looking at when I see bugs post:

Who is scum? FreezingFoot
Why he could be scum? Because he is not revealing his identity when he is getting voted.
Why not revealing his identity when up to the lynch is a mafia behaviour? (silence)


That isn't the only reason he is calling you scum though that's why im pointing out that post.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 08 2015 02:12 GMT
#208
I really enjoy bats trying to buddy the guy calling him scum for buddying.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 08 2015 02:13 GMT
#209
He just wants us to all be friends and get along.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 08 2015 02:16 GMT
#210
Sounds very preachy. Priest confirmed
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 08 2015 02:18 GMT
#211
Priests are friendly for other reasons.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 08 2015 02:18 GMT
#212
Shit I said I wouldn't troll bait the flavor.
FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
June 08 2015 02:19 GMT
#213
On June 08 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 10:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 09:58 Breshke wrote:
On June 08 2015 09:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:56 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:42 Kickstart wrote:
It is helpful by way of making a point. It is not helpful in so far as having the question answered because you ask the question knowing it won't be answered. If he was interested in displaying his identity he would not be in a disguise. It does not take a wise man to posit your question.


you apparently don't understand.

It is in town's benefit to know his identity. If he refuses while taking votes that's anti-town.

So just vote him and see what he does. If he doesn't give town anything what use is he alive? His contribution to this conversation has been a gif in response to my quote post. It is early in the day, but this is a good chance to see how our smurf wants to play the game.


I understand perfectly fine.


No you don't, because you repeatedly have shown an inability to read what I am saying.

I have said twice now that a smurf DOES NOT HAVE TO REVEAL THEMSELVES to satisfy my line of questioning.

I simply want more out of this particular player. The responses I have received so far have been relatively lukewarm at best. However, I'm going to step it up a bit further.


I agree with your general premise but not your methodology. I have already said the important question in regards to our mystery man is whether he will use his identity to impart wisdom and knowledge or to sow confusion.


So did I, you just failed to read where I said it. Twice. Now three times, actually, and if you count this now, four.


You seem to miss the point that had he been interested in revealing his identity he would have done so. This goes back to my earlier question to you: Do you ask him to reveal his identity so that when he refuses you can accuse him? Why would a member of the coven do such a thing when they already know that the outcome will be that he does not revel himself.


Nope. You're not reading. Keep this up and I'm going to just ignore you.


Your argument so far has been that his withholding his identity is suspicious and his posting style thus far is suspicious. But if we do not know his identity how can we judge his posting style as indicative of anything?

All that said, our mystery man does need to choose his path. He either gives us wisdom and clarity or he sows confusion, and his fate is decided by which course of action he chooses to take.


Nope. I am saying you do not understand because, well...you don't.

Let me clarify for you what has happened so far, and what is now worth discussing.

On June 08 2015 08:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway I am kinda sad I didn't roll scum this game but you guys should elevate me to Greater Demon status cause that'll be baller

also if you guys could fill me in on who I should expect to suck this game and when I should be disappointed for someone sucking that would be great


Btw I don't like this opening. Sounds like a guy trying too hard do say "oh I'm town /sob", and asking people for names to work with.


He doesn't like my opening. Sign #1 he doesn't like me.

Cool.

Let's skip over his direct response to my vote, because it was useless.

Third post following my vote:

On June 08 2015 08:48 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:35 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.

But surely if you were an acolyte you would see the wisdom in ones words and not need to know the person's identity to discern its wisdom or lack thereof. Is this attempt to discern this persons true identity something useful for a member of the coven? Do you ask so that you can discredit if he does not oblige? Do you ask to know if he is a powerful and wise acolyte? Both courses of action would be beneficial to the inquisitors, while knowing his true identity or not does not matter to members of the coven. Ones words and actions matter most to the coven, not ones identity.

Only an inquisitor would be so interested in ones identity over ones wisdom.


Would you rather have the smurf be Foolishness, or random lurker X?

What about Ace, or BloodyC0bbler?

How exactly is this purely a scum-motivated question? It arguably helps town far more, given that if the smurf is town scum already know they are town and they are already automatically a threat. Knowing a player's identity is less important to scum. As scum I have left otherwise "good" townies alive to throw off towns before, simply because they were completely wrong.


It's not a scum motivated question. But you questioned nothing. it is a scum behaviour. It's basically a policy lynch that you get behind without compromising yourself. You won't have to rely on building original reads. You just see a townie and justify a push on him without actually caring for his alignment.


What I exhibited is a "scum behaviour" according to Freezingfoot. He didn't like my original post, and he thinks I am not trying to build original reads. He claims I don't care about his alignment.

Fourth post:

On June 08 2015 09:00 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:48 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:35 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
[quote]

refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.

But surely if you were an acolyte you would see the wisdom in ones words and not need to know the person's identity to discern its wisdom or lack thereof. Is this attempt to discern this persons true identity something useful for a member of the coven? Do you ask so that you can discredit if he does not oblige? Do you ask to know if he is a powerful and wise acolyte? Both courses of action would be beneficial to the inquisitors, while knowing his true identity or not does not matter to members of the coven. Ones words and actions matter most to the coven, not ones identity.

Only an inquisitor would be so interested in ones identity over ones wisdom.


Would you rather have the smurf be Foolishness, or random lurker X?

What about Ace, or BloodyC0bbler?

How exactly is this purely a scum-motivated question? It arguably helps town far more, given that if the smurf is town scum already know they are town and they are already automatically a threat. Knowing a player's identity is less important to scum. As scum I have left otherwise "good" townies alive to throw off towns before, simply because they were completely wrong.


It's not a scum motivated question. But you questioned nothing. it is a scum behaviour. It's basically a policy lynch that you get behind without compromising yourself. You won't have to rely on building original reads. You just see a townie and justify a push on him without actually caring for his alignment.


So it's a scum behaviour to question nothing...at the beginning of day 1, when by definition there is nothing to question.

Where do you come up with this logic?


Tell us who you are? It will help town = town approach
You're mafia because you're not telling us who you are = scum approach.


Implicitly calling my approach scum approach. But not directly doing it.

If Freezingfoot thinks my approach is so scummy, in four straight posts....

Why doesn't he vote me? If he tries to get me killed directly that would be one thing, but he's just weakly throwing back mud at me.




Did you not see this post freezingfoot?


I saw it
What about it?

See, this is what I'm looking at when I see bugs post:

Who is scum? FreezingFoot
Why he could be scum? Because he is not revealing his identity when he is getting voted.
Why not revealing his identity when up to the lynch is a mafia behaviour? (silence)


That isn't the only reason he is calling you scum though that's why im pointing out that post.


Oh I get it. I just want him to clarify this point before I do something else
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2015 02:24 GMT
#214
On June 08 2015 11:19 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote:
On June 08 2015 10:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 09:58 Breshke wrote:
On June 08 2015 09:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:56 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:42 Kickstart wrote:
It is helpful by way of making a point. It is not helpful in so far as having the question answered because you ask the question knowing it won't be answered. If he was interested in displaying his identity he would not be in a disguise. It does not take a wise man to posit your question.


you apparently don't understand.

It is in town's benefit to know his identity. If he refuses while taking votes that's anti-town.

So just vote him and see what he does. If he doesn't give town anything what use is he alive? His contribution to this conversation has been a gif in response to my quote post. It is early in the day, but this is a good chance to see how our smurf wants to play the game.


I understand perfectly fine.


No you don't, because you repeatedly have shown an inability to read what I am saying.

I have said twice now that a smurf DOES NOT HAVE TO REVEAL THEMSELVES to satisfy my line of questioning.

I simply want more out of this particular player. The responses I have received so far have been relatively lukewarm at best. However, I'm going to step it up a bit further.


I agree with your general premise but not your methodology. I have already said the important question in regards to our mystery man is whether he will use his identity to impart wisdom and knowledge or to sow confusion.


So did I, you just failed to read where I said it. Twice. Now three times, actually, and if you count this now, four.


You seem to miss the point that had he been interested in revealing his identity he would have done so. This goes back to my earlier question to you: Do you ask him to reveal his identity so that when he refuses you can accuse him? Why would a member of the coven do such a thing when they already know that the outcome will be that he does not revel himself.


Nope. You're not reading. Keep this up and I'm going to just ignore you.


Your argument so far has been that his withholding his identity is suspicious and his posting style thus far is suspicious. But if we do not know his identity how can we judge his posting style as indicative of anything?

All that said, our mystery man does need to choose his path. He either gives us wisdom and clarity or he sows confusion, and his fate is decided by which course of action he chooses to take.


Nope. I am saying you do not understand because, well...you don't.

Let me clarify for you what has happened so far, and what is now worth discussing.

On June 08 2015 08:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway I am kinda sad I didn't roll scum this game but you guys should elevate me to Greater Demon status cause that'll be baller

also if you guys could fill me in on who I should expect to suck this game and when I should be disappointed for someone sucking that would be great


Btw I don't like this opening. Sounds like a guy trying too hard do say "oh I'm town /sob", and asking people for names to work with.


He doesn't like my opening. Sign #1 he doesn't like me.

Cool.

Let's skip over his direct response to my vote, because it was useless.

Third post following my vote:

On June 08 2015 08:48 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:35 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
[quote]
Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.

But surely if you were an acolyte you would see the wisdom in ones words and not need to know the person's identity to discern its wisdom or lack thereof. Is this attempt to discern this persons true identity something useful for a member of the coven? Do you ask so that you can discredit if he does not oblige? Do you ask to know if he is a powerful and wise acolyte? Both courses of action would be beneficial to the inquisitors, while knowing his true identity or not does not matter to members of the coven. Ones words and actions matter most to the coven, not ones identity.

Only an inquisitor would be so interested in ones identity over ones wisdom.


Would you rather have the smurf be Foolishness, or random lurker X?

What about Ace, or BloodyC0bbler?

How exactly is this purely a scum-motivated question? It arguably helps town far more, given that if the smurf is town scum already know they are town and they are already automatically a threat. Knowing a player's identity is less important to scum. As scum I have left otherwise "good" townies alive to throw off towns before, simply because they were completely wrong.


It's not a scum motivated question. But you questioned nothing. it is a scum behaviour. It's basically a policy lynch that you get behind without compromising yourself. You won't have to rely on building original reads. You just see a townie and justify a push on him without actually caring for his alignment.


What I exhibited is a "scum behaviour" according to Freezingfoot. He didn't like my original post, and he thinks I am not trying to build original reads. He claims I don't care about his alignment.

Fourth post:

On June 08 2015 09:00 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:48 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:35 Kickstart wrote:
[quote]
But surely if you were an acolyte you would see the wisdom in ones words and not need to know the person's identity to discern its wisdom or lack thereof. Is this attempt to discern this persons true identity something useful for a member of the coven? Do you ask so that you can discredit if he does not oblige? Do you ask to know if he is a powerful and wise acolyte? Both courses of action would be beneficial to the inquisitors, while knowing his true identity or not does not matter to members of the coven. Ones words and actions matter most to the coven, not ones identity.

Only an inquisitor would be so interested in ones identity over ones wisdom.


Would you rather have the smurf be Foolishness, or random lurker X?

What about Ace, or BloodyC0bbler?

How exactly is this purely a scum-motivated question? It arguably helps town far more, given that if the smurf is town scum already know they are town and they are already automatically a threat. Knowing a player's identity is less important to scum. As scum I have left otherwise "good" townies alive to throw off towns before, simply because they were completely wrong.


It's not a scum motivated question. But you questioned nothing. it is a scum behaviour. It's basically a policy lynch that you get behind without compromising yourself. You won't have to rely on building original reads. You just see a townie and justify a push on him without actually caring for his alignment.


So it's a scum behaviour to question nothing...at the beginning of day 1, when by definition there is nothing to question.

Where do you come up with this logic?


Tell us who you are? It will help town = town approach
You're mafia because you're not telling us who you are = scum approach.


Implicitly calling my approach scum approach. But not directly doing it.

If Freezingfoot thinks my approach is so scummy, in four straight posts....

Why doesn't he vote me? If he tries to get me killed directly that would be one thing, but he's just weakly throwing back mud at me.




Did you not see this post freezingfoot?


I saw it
What about it?

See, this is what I'm looking at when I see bugs post:

Who is scum? FreezingFoot
Why he could be scum? Because he is not revealing his identity when he is getting voted.
Why not revealing his identity when up to the lynch is a mafia behaviour? (silence)


That isn't the only reason he is calling you scum though that's why im pointing out that post.


Oh I get it. I just want him to clarify this point before I do something else


"I just want to keep going in circles so I don't have to actually do anything"
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 08 2015 02:28 GMT
#215
On June 08 2015 10:06 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 10:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 10:01 batsnacks wrote:
On June 08 2015 09:56 Breshke wrote:
On June 08 2015 09:53 FreezingFoot wrote:
Dude, you are scum reading me for something that makes no one scum. I want to understand your thought process before forming a solid read on you. I am NOT answering a question YOU were supposed to clarify.


I believe he is scumming you because you think someone is scum yet you arn't voting them.


I think he's scumming him because instead of saying why not revealing isn't alignment indicative (it's not), he beat around the bush omgusing and asking questions. That's like a triple negative but I can't think of better words.


it's a combination of all of those things.

The worst by far is the accusation without a vote.


I thought kickstart's backtrack was just as scummy. Kickstart responded to you believing that not revealing isn't alignment indicative (there's that double negative again), then backtracked when some of the pressure started going his way.

He votes you for blasphemy, gives an opinion on not revealing, gets pressured, changes opinion on not revealing.

You misunderstood. I conceded that I mistook his "not outing in a mislynch" point. I thought he meant not outing himself when he votes on someone else that turns out to be a mislynch was anti-town when he was talking about if foots is about to be myslynched as town and doesnt reveal. I said I misunderstood him but now understand what he was saying, my opinion on the matter is unchanged.

I will say I do not like people twisting my words, but I was mistaken in that instance with bugs and I will assume it was a genuine mistake from you.

On June 08 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:
##vote FreezingFoot

Breshke plz explain. You've posited and answered questions but you've not explained this vote imo.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2015 02:32 GMT
#216
re: Kickstart

I consider what he did to be one of the more genuinely town things in this thread. To keep the focus let's talk about things are more relevant for now, unless any of you think I am mistaken-if so, I welcome your opinion and do not mind having a discourse on why you disagree.

I like starting off strongly because day 1 is generally a wash unless town gets lucky or scum are bad. The hardest part is starting a discussion, but I would hope that the frequency of my posts and the things I have pointed out about FrozenFoot are enough to get us moving forward.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 08 2015 02:33 GMT
#217
Like how did you get that I backtracked from that conversation. Just ?????????????
FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
June 08 2015 02:34 GMT
#218
Lol dude you can't be town.

I didn't engage your arguments directly or instantly called you scum to see until when you would still push this matter.

My first strike was "I've never had a scumread this quick in a mafia game", but since your reasons were too stupid, I thought you could be town trying to get discussion getting traction. So if I completely shut down your arguments I would break discussion development.

The thing is: if you're town doing that, you'll drop those arguments quickly because they aren't made to hold water. So I decided I would give you space so I could analyse you better.

You're still pushing a dumb matter, which makes me sure you're mafia trying to get behind a ridiculous policy lynch.
You're mafia.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 08 2015 02:35 GMT
#219
@kickstart I sort of skimmed the whole thing and just assumed you backtracked because you posted that you were mistaken or something. I figured even if I was wrong getting you to respond/not respond couldn't be terrible.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 08 2015 02:35 GMT
#220
Well we know why Bugs voted you, I'm more interested in why Breske did because he never really conversed with you at all, he mostly just asked questions to bugs then voted you with just a vote in the post and no explanation.
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