• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:29
CEST 13:29
KST 20:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event10Serral wins EWC 202544Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple3SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
Real talk: we need to stop nerfing everything Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Serral wins EWC 2025 uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event
Tourneys
Global Tourney for College Students in September RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! BW General Discussion Simultaneous Streaming by CasterMuse StarCon Philadelphia Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 696 users

[M][N]Holy Guardians Chapter 1 - Page 56

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 54 55 56 57 58 121 Next
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 06 2015 05:52 GMT
#1101
On June 06 2015 12:19 Chocolate wrote:
Sorry for my absence, got a longish car ride tomorrow so I'll hopefully be able to be pretty active


I'm not diggin this excuse when you have basically just gone "poof" since EoD.
I can take that responsibility.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 06 2015 06:08 GMT
#1102
On June 06 2015 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 10:55 Onegu wrote:
On June 06 2015 10:52 Tictock wrote:
On June 06 2015 10:33 Onegu wrote:
Chezniu rule is what is about to apply to me. And we are going to us it to get our lynch today on Shendelzare. Basicly it means I play so randomly that who wants push my lynch is scum. Chez rule is first to call him scum. Onegu rule is people continuing to push his lynch.

##Vote Shendelzare

Milo would be a ok vote also. Willing to vote either.


I... dont even... Trying to read that is hard enough, I'm not spending any thought making sense of it.

However, if Milo is no longer town yet Milo is still a type of chocolate where Onegu is from, then Chocolate is also not town.

Thus by Onegu logic Choco is scum.

Ok seriously now...
I'd like to lynch choco today like we should have done yesterday.

##Vote: Chocolate



Trust me it works.


Your logic or the Chezniu stuff? I feel like the chezniu stuff is so arbitrary and doesn't take into account the variety of responses to a "Chezniu". Like I mentioned earlier, I tend to respond to trolly nonsense, with trolly nonsense. Whats the rule on that?



First my rule is different then the Chezniu rule. But it comes down to close to the same thing. I have caught scum using the onegu rule. The chez rule has caught many more scum. I am serious here. People wanting to lynch me today have a much higher chance to flip scum.

I am not trolling here this is a legit strat.

Damdred back me up here plz.

Also there is a diffenece in wanting to lynch me for policy early like scott who I think is town. And actually saying I am scum and wanting to lynch me.

Also if you look at Shendelzare and the games he said he looked up on me, I didnt troll half as much in those games. So how can he draw any conclusions from those games I ask you.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 06 2015 06:10 GMT
#1103
Proof of Chez rule and what people on site think of it
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 06 2015 06:11 GMT
#1104
My rule isnt quite there yet but I do promise you I have caught scum with it.
Try TL Mafia!!!
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 06 2015 06:19 GMT
#1105
The Chez rule only works if we know you're town, doesn't it? It would be skewed if you were mafia.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 06 2015 07:21 GMT
#1106
On June 06 2015 15:10 Onegu wrote:
Proof of Chez rule and what people on site think of it


I checked that Link, and found my way to a game of Chezinu being a Champion.

Chez made me smile... Onegu made me smile D1. Onegu is town.

I have come upon the townie known as ritoky in a past life, and as such still know him in spirit. Thus the proxy spirit of Chezinu is known to me in him.

I, in response to the spirit of Chez embraced the nature of ritoky's posts and returned it in kind. Thus I was the 2nd coming of Chezinu. Blinded by the return of the town savior GG gets a renewed taste of the Chezinu Experience and is forced to vote me. His blindness ensues, and thus his doom is secured.

+ Show Spoiler +
I shouldn't post this late at night...
I can take that responsibility.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 08:05 GMT
#1107
GGTemplar spent most of the game giving hard townreads based on very early posts, and he spent a lot of time justifying those reads. I concede that the most blatant example of this, his reads on Nydus and Ticktock shown here, was at the behest of another player. However, if you'll kindly turn your packets to page 2 of his filter, you'll see a similar behavior throughout, with no prompting. I've explained here my meta reasoning for thinking he's mafia based on behavior - I would have expected him to try and get a read on me early if he's town. He explained numerous times that he didn't find the interaction between Chocolate and myself to be alignment indicative. Yet today, he's trying to use THAT against me.

He also does small nuanced things like trying to appeal to authority and appeal to emotions. Further, his push on Ticktock reads to me as an attempt to remain consistent with his reads yesterday. It's convenient that he had a (very justified *winkwink*) either/or read on Kickstart/Ticktock, and somehow by the grace of God (but conveniently not by Templar's hand) Kickstart the jailer got lynched yesterday, and today EVEN WHILE OMGUSING ME, he maintains that Ticktock is the likeliest shot at mafia. He's not reevaluating the game at all, he's trying to remain consistent while pushing a specific agenda.

Everyone should vote for GGTemplar today. He is the most likely mafia at this point in the game, I would say even more so than Chocolate. The only thing that makes me doubt it is the fact that he wasn't voting EoD yesterday, but as far as I know he thought he was or something.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 08:15 GMT
#1108
tl;dr

GGTemplar
Meta - Temp would read me early. "Couldn't", in spite of ritoky thinking I was pretty obviously town.
Behavior - Has over-justified his early reads imo, and has attempted to remain consistent with his previous reads rather than reevaluate the game. OMGUS on me reeks of desperation.

Doubts - He wasn't voting EoD, risking modkill.
My Bias/Hypocricy - I still think Chocolate is mafia, and Chocolate was the other wagon yesterday.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 08:19 GMT
#1109
ritoky and others - I think Nydus said I was jizzing town, and Damdred maybe. Not to put words in peoples mouths or anything. Soft, sensual words of approval.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 06 2015 08:25 GMT
#1110
On June 06 2015 13:40 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
You know I think I've got this game 99% solved

My continued townreads:
Kickstart
Ritoky
Milo
Nydus
Fideu
sicluck(shendel)

Upper-Null:
Chocolate
VE
Damdred

Lower-Null:
Onegu
Scott

Mafia:
Tictock

Honestly I think after we lynch Tictock we just start killing up the list. I am more inclined to believe that my townread on VE was a bit hasty, and I continue to not really have a strong read on chocolate but I just like the vibe I get from reading his posts.

With regards to Scotts vs Damdred's large posts the past couple pages, I actually liked some of Damdred's points and the general direction he pushed. I can't say I got a scummy vibe from Scotts but I didn't get a townie vibe either. Onegu just hasn't done anything.

There is probably one mafia hiding in my town reads//upper null reads.

At this point my priority is getting Tictock lynched. The rest of you should start focusing on Onegu/Scott/Damdred/VE/Chocolate. I believe the rest of the mafia team lies in there.



You do not have this game solved at all - I'm town - and you got town reads on Sch/Fideu that magically appear?

I see Tictock as more lynchbait - He could be mafia, but as I said -He improved his game if he is. Maybe I got confirmation bias, he does not have a coach. I'm honestly not seeing his scum game.

On June 06 2015 13:43 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I have nothing on VE, he might even be below Damdred at this point. It just seems like he has tunneled Chocolate the entire game TBH for reasons I never really picked up on.

This list is more accurate:

Town:
Kickstart
Ritoky
Milo
Fideu
Sickluck(shendel)
Nydus

Upper-null:
Damdred
Chocolate
VE

Lower-null:
Scott
Onegu

Mafia:
Tictock


What do you want me to think? You failed to vote and I gave you a bit of lea-way over the other two wagons. Would you like to be the wagon again? I'll shit more town rainbows if needed - It's been a long night.

On June 06 2015 13:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
In fact, several people have intimated suspicion that if Chocolate is mafia then GG is mafia with him. Maybe we SHOULD lynch Chocolate today. Nah.


I want VE to expand more on this if he is town - Do you think Chocolate is mafia?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 06 2015 08:34 GMT
#1111
I just woke up with peeps who do not know what prejudice is -tired of hearing the "N" word and no clue.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 08:34 GMT
#1112
On June 05 2015 00:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like and why keep your vote on me if you're town? Why aren't you trying to put your vote on mafia to lynch them? It just smacks of trying to hide your vote somewhere that will give town no information, plopping it down on me with the FULL KNOWLEDGE that I'm not getting lynched today.

I think this is the most damning thing about Chocolate. He couldn't justify putting his vote on anyone when it mattered at the end of the day, he just plopped it on me until an alternative wagon appeared and then "voted to save his life". He stated that he was changing his read of me apparently, but was still voting for me because he didn't want to or couldn't call anyone else mafia. Too afraid he'd piss someone off that might vote for him I guess.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 08:36 GMT
#1113
And just in case anyone else had any fucking doubt, this is what VE looks like when he's town and tries.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 08:48 GMT
#1114
Also I'm just going to take this opportunity to publicly decry the lurkers and say that if I'm somehow wrong about Temp and I'm losing to some lurker faction of mafia, I'm going to be REARRY REARRY UPSETUUU.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 08:53 GMT
#1115
Also GGTemplar would have you believe that my suspicion of Chocolate is somehow based upon my (slightly flawed) milo read. That is NOT the case. My suspicion of Chocolate stems ALL THE WAY from his first post, how he votes for someone for some fake reason and disappears under the guise of activity, which he never revisits until prompted much later. Taken with his response to my pressure (baseless OMGUS) and the course of events at the end of the day (Chocolate being the alternative wagon to the ultimate mislynch), I still find it likely that Chocolate is mafia. Independent of my (now reversed) read of milo.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 09:04 GMT
#1116
Jesus VE's pwning mafia in here and everyone just runs and hides.

Guys I can't do it alone. I NEED your help to lynch them. If you disagree with me, tell me why. I won't bite. Part of the mafia strategy has been to paint VE as some kind of "bully" when I've just been in here giving my reads and thoughts openly.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 09:14 GMT
#1117
On June 05 2015 04:05 ritoky wrote:
VE, do you know what i find to be the most compelling reason to stay on chocolate at the moment is?

that you or i are pretty much every single player in the game's #1 town read and yet we are the only 2 on this vote lol. that shit is blowing my mind....

Anyone hear that? It sounds like the ghost of town Jesus showing us the way.

GGTemplar is trying to keep attention off Chocolate, in exactly the same way he's accusing me of trying to "attack Ticktock's accusor". It's pretty cut and dry.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 09:29 GMT
#1118
Like Templar says there's nothing alignment indicative in my filter. That indicates that he's read my filter. But then he feigns going to look for my case on Chocolate, and comes up with "It's based on a faulty milo observation" that has nothing to do with any of the things I've said about Chocolate. I talked about his tone with NydusHerMain, and I talked about the activity thing with Damdred and ritoky. Like, if he read my filter he must have read that stuff right? But he doesn't mention any of it. Dismisses it as so much alignment null bickering. That's why I say he's ignoring my posts - pretending I'm not making them. Because he literally is. I'm not just dramatizing or exaggerating, he's literally just pretending that I'm not making the (imo town-alignment indicative) posts I'm making.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 09:51 GMT
#1119
BTW can someone else fucking ask GGTemplar to substantiate his read on milo? Because in spite of OVEREXPLAINING many of his other reads, he refuses to explain his milo townread that he repeatedly forgets to substantiate. It sucks too because now he can just say whatever he wants based on everything.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 06 2015 09:56 GMT
#1120
repeatedly

that's the link for the above post. I asked him earlier to substantiate that read. But I don't do townie things. I don't make townie observations and ask pertinent questions and follow up on suspicions, and reevaluate as new info is presented.
[/sarcasm]

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Prev 1 54 55 56 57 58 121 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
Mondays #47
WardiTV1496
Rex84
IndyStarCraft 61
CranKy Ducklings51
SteadfastSC34
TKL 21
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko178
Harstem 152
Rex 84
IndyStarCraft 61
SteadfastSC 34
TKL 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6117
Rain 3950
Sea 2159
BeSt 1748
Bisu 1607
Flash 810
Mini 585
EffOrt 449
ggaemo 394
Larva 383
[ Show more ]
actioN 365
Barracks 353
Hyuk 323
Stork 287
ZerO 178
Soma 171
Hyun 142
Pusan 131
hero 114
PianO 108
Snow 75
ToSsGirL 68
Mong 60
Killer 49
sorry 46
sSak 42
Backho 37
Sacsri 36
TY 32
Sea.KH 27
[sc1f]eonzerg 27
JulyZerg 27
HiyA 25
Movie 15
Noble 13
Free 13
Yoon 13
Icarus 12
IntoTheRainbow 9
Dota 2
Cr1tdota401
XcaliburYe273
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2777
shoxiejesuss606
x6flipin551
allub464
zeus463
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King118
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor193
Other Games
FrodaN4770
B2W.Neo725
SortOf171
Fuzer 167
Pyrionflax127
ZerO(Twitch)23
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV507
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
3h 31m
RotterdaM Event
4h 31m
Replay Cast
12h 31m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
23h 31m
RSL Revival
1d 5h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 12h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 23h
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Online Event
4 days
SC Evo League
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
SC Evo League
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.