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On June 14 2015 05:57 NydusHerMain wrote: Taking advantage of an ark w e lose if you vote me but I bet there's a town in ticktock or milo and I lose anyways since they're busy zzzz gg An interesting last post beyond the wtf scott | ||
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Day 1 Vote Count Milo109(0): Tictock(1): Sicklucker Chocolate(4): GGTemplar(1): VisceraEyes(0): Onegu(0): Kickstart(4): Damdred, Chocolate, Damdred(1) Onegu Not Voting (2): GGTemplar, Milo109 Currently, Kickstart is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Day 2 Final Vote Count Shendelzare(0): Chocolate(0): Onegu(0): Tictock(4): GGTemplar(6): VisceraEyes, Onegu, Tictock, VisceraEyes(0): NydusHerMain(0): Fidei86(0): Damdred(1): Milo109 Currently, GGTemplar is set to be executed. Day 2 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Day 3 Final Vote Count Chocolate(5): Tictock(1): Fidei86 VisceraEyes(1): Damdred(2): Onegu, Milo109 Currently, Chocolate is set to be executed. Day 3 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). [blue][b]Day 4 Vote Count Damdred (0): Scott (3): Tictock (0): NydusHerMain(4): Damdred, Scott, VisceraEyes, Onegu Currently, NydusHerMain is set to be executed. Day 4 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). | ||
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On June 12 2015 13:19 scott31337 wrote: Tictock, so I just checked NYM's filter and he interacts extremely little with you, even though you have one of the biggest filters. What do you think about that and NYM? | ||
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So now on to the tinfoil hat that Onegu and I bussed NHM becuase I was more important scum then NHM was, which is about as crazy as the VE/Damdred/Chocolate bus theory. I said NHM was at the bottom of my list, but I didn't see a world of trying to push NHM earlier. The NHM voting came a little bit after my town concede post, which I meant every word. I'm glad Damdred had second thoughts and we were able to lynch NHM. I just don't see a clear world that me and Onegu communicated to bus NHM in such a short amount of time - and we didn't because I'm town. The above point I like because it doesn't 100% clear Onegu. Milo and Tictock sure were happy to jump on the bus train though. It sounds like scum isn't going to give up this easily though, but having NHM's filter to work with is a start. | ||
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It's Milo/TT | ||
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On June 14 2015 17:16 Tictock wrote: So here are the final votes for the Day. As I see it, we have Onegu & Scott starting a wagon on Damdred. We all knew Onegu was going to vote Damdred today as this was stated well in advance. Scott votes in response to Damdred's case on him. Milo joined the Damdred wagon, but then jumps off it like he is reconsidering who he wants to vote. I don't think he ever really tells us why or what he is thinking... so bleh Damdred votes scott after making his case, VE joins that vote. Later on I get on this wagon as well. Ok boring stuff out of the way Now at end of day we have scott defending his life and Onegu pushing for "Scumdred" Eventually the idea of lynching Nydus is brought up Damdred was the first person to suggest this notion and VE quickly agrees (though he doesn't vote Nydus till much later...). At this point I was already AFK, the post I made at the top of pg 101 was the only 5 min I had to post this game. Hence my apologies *stares at VE* + Show Spoiler + I would have supported this push on Nydus just for everyone's information Scott is quite adiment at this point that he prefers to vote on me, and does so. However, he later comes out with this post. That's an odd way to say someone is scum. This bolded line really feels like TMI to me as well. Why is scott suddenly so sure a Nydus lynch will keep the game going? He's been fine to just defend himself and vote Damdred, but when there is a sense that this vote could switch to Nydus he jumps all over it. I call it intuition. Onegu has felt more like town this game, when Nydus has not. Damdred said himself "I'm not lynching TT today, it's Onegu or NHM" - Onegu has felt more town then Nydus (With Nydus lurking a lot, his throw in post about my math being bad, etc) I went with Nydus. I was right on both of them.  There is like a .5% chance it's VE - but I"ve felt VE town most of the game, he passed my battrap, and if he was mafia, or Onegu, they could've vote switched on to me at the end.Onegu switches to Nydus pretty late (:51) very reluctant to move off Damdred even for another person who broke his rule. Then Nydus jumps his vote to scott very late (:56) ? This is an odd move, it looks like Nydus is suddenly siding with Milo and Myself... but why? This was Nydus' post right after he voted scott. Knowing that he was going to flip red he sides with Milo and I calling us town? Would he do that if we were his scum mates? I mean it kinda outs the 3 of us together far too well doesn't it? It's WIFOM - I pointed it out for the reasons I did, and so did you - but to outsiders It's WIFOM. I'm looking at the votes and I see clear evidence that this whole play was thought out in QT after Damdred suggests Nydus as a lynch. Damdreds post his suggestion then about 17 min later scott made this post. 17 min is ample time for an active scum team to plan a play like this out. Both Scott and Onegu were clearly active and posting at the time, and I think we can safely assume Nydus was lurking (as he has been all game with a 4 page filter >.<). You are the only one with a QT my friend. Scott is suddenly so sure about Milo and I, but I'm not seeing what his reasoning is. It all just seems too convenient to me that Nydus suicides onto scott for no reason at EoD and this leads scott to scumming the 3 of us as a team. Okay - Here's the end day vote count. Damdred (0): Scott (3): Tictock (0): NydusHerMain(4): Damdred, Scott, VisceraEyes, Onegu Currently, NydusHerMain is set to be executed. Day 4 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). (Bold response in your quote as well) If anyone who is voting for NHM (Damdred, Scott, VisceraEyes, Onegu) are not town and I am - they simply switch votes with the five minutes left on to me and the games over (Scott is mislynched with four votes as VT, GG scum wins).Easy enough sentence for me to understand. It never happened. So all of these people are basically confirmed town now to me. Onegu knows he is town as well from the above, and also knows that the bus theory is crap. Who's left? Milo and TT. Unless someone wasn't playing to their Wincon. there's no other logical answer. | ||
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Why Milo is mafia Throws away/unvote Day 1, Wasted Voted Damdred Day 2 & 3, Votes me Day 4 + Show Spoiler + On June 14 2015 07:34 scott31337 wrote: Gives Nydus a white knight read when his filter isn't there for it and doesn't exist - overcorrects when Damdred calls him out for it + Show Spoiler + On June 03 2015 08:09 milo109 wrote: Now that I have a second to evaluate the game without immediate fear of being lynched... I don't think that Chocolate is necessarily mafia for his one post. It's possible he had to go, and he was basing his read on Tiktok off of two posts. It seems a fine opener. Not sure if I like VE attempting to turn attention to someone unable to defend himself. Nydus is my white knight, and I'm sure that will skew my opinion of him but he seems town just from the irreverent way he gave his reads. I still don't like Kickstarter. I didn't like the tone of his accusation, and the way he quickly attempted to insure he wasn't thought of 'bandwagoning on me' as if he knew I would flip town. On June 03 2015 08:24 milo109 wrote: I assume you're talking about Nydus about the fast reads/perfect information? Because if you're speaking to my point on Chocolate, I don't think fast reads are bad necessarily. Mafia might shy away from them even with perfect information, for fear of future ramifications. As for Nydus pocketing me, I specifically pointed that out. I'm aware of the possibility, but at the moment I don't think he is. Saying 1v1 me is a promise is... stretching it. Appeals to emotion when called out for having TMI, even if it's for a townie + Show Spoiler + On June 03 2015 09:34 milo109 wrote: GRR. This is frustrating me. I'm fine being read as scum for my own problems, but not for assuming that someone who hadn't posted was unable to defend themselves. HE WASN'T POSTING. THAT MEANT HE COULDN'T DIRECTLY RESPOND TO YOUR ACCUSATION. Damdred is scum after night 1 with his KS vote and "non-commital", NHM is a light town now, keeps voting Damdred night two and three + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2015 14:31 milo109 wrote: Alright, looking back I think I've focused too much on defense and not enough time pushing my reads. Here's where I'm at Chocolate Town VE Mafia I really don't want to get into that again. But I think that this is the way things do and should line up. Other reads: Ritocky is super town from the combination of both his activity level and the thought he puts into the game. I called him nitpicky earlier, but as the game goes on I appreciate the pressure he is putting on. Nydus is a light town. I'm sorta getting a dimwit silly impression from him, and it seems hard to understand why mafia would want to fake that. I realllly don't like his last post though, so that bumped him down. Fidei is town just for doing for the long, clear, and well-written way he conveys his thought processes. I've never felt jarred by of his logic. Damdred is scum. His vote on Kickstart and the way he has been playing is so noncommital. I still like Templar. You people don't understand his utterly dopey playstyle in video mafia. He plays here like he does there. The problem with these reads is that means only one scum voted on Kickstart. And that's a real problem. I'll rethink this in the morning with my Onegu/Ticktock/Scott/New Guy sequel. On June 09 2015 04:48 milo109 wrote: When I voted you, there was only two votes on Tick. If I'd been back in time, I would have switched to him. It wouldn't have changed anything, but you're right, that would have been the correct play. Still. Just because I think Templar was town doesn't mean I think he is correct on everything. I still don't think Tick is hard scum. My statement on the two scum in voters if tick rock is scum is for future reference. Just thought he would have been a better lynch than Templar. Which is correct, considering we know he was town. As for not pushing you, read my filter. Almost all of my posts have been defending town and trying to get you(scum) lynched. Also. How can you think I'm pushing scum on everyone? I've pushed hard on three people this game. KS/You/VE. Notice two of you are still alive. KS was a mistake that I panicked and tried to rectify. I didn't correctly understand plurality, and I didn't realize I needed to vote Chcolate, which I didn't want to do. Onto the future: I want to lynch Damdred. He did indeed vote on both town. Why is he proud of that? He spends most of his post calling everything I've done except the vote scummy and then doesn't even have the courage to lynch me until day 5(Which if we don't lynch a mafia by then, won't happen.) He knows I have too much town cred over my unvote to lynch me, so he'll try to get courage cred by mildly scum reading me while mislynching town. If you keep lynching in the Me/Chocolate/Fidei/Templar circle you're going to lose. I believe that we are all town. If Damdred flips town I'll revaluate but until we lynch outside that world, we can't move forward. I implore you town, don' t be swayed. Tries to get credit for Tictock after the day is over and GG flips town + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2015 07:06 milo109 wrote: Shoot. I didn't get back in time to see the Tictock wagon build. He would have been a much better lynch. Then backtracks on his Tictock scumread + Show Spoiler + On June 09 2015 05:06 milo109 wrote: I'm not freaking calling Ticktock scum. So stop trying to shield yourself with him. You said I was "blaming everyone." I apologize if I misread that, but that's what I was answering. What the hell are you talking about with Chocolate breaking promises? Did he promise to buy you a Popsicle and then not? This game isn't about promises. It's about finding scum. And I've found one. Oh and I am mentioning town cred only to ask why the hell you didn't have the balls to call me out before this. As you have said before, put your vote where your mouth is. Already knows Chocolate is going to be a mislynch + Show Spoiler + On June 10 2015 04:37 milo109 wrote: You do realize that if we lynch Chocolate and he flips town, tommorrow is hell on earth? Says VE/NMH/Damdred/Scott/Tictock lynch order, but jumps on the wagon on me - says Fidei and himself are confirmed town when they are not + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2015 08:06 milo109 wrote: I agree with Fidei that the two of us are almost confirmed town. We need to find the last two town. Obviously, the night kill will help eliminate an option. At the -moment- I'm thinking of a lynch order like VE NMH Damdred Scott Tictock. Calling VE/Damdred almost scum after Nydus's list post + Show Spoiler + [B]On June 12 2015 04:56 milo109 wrote: From my point of view, VE/Damdred are almost confirmed scum after that town read. Conclusions - Wasted votes Damdred day two and three - never actually pushes him, changes his mind on him day four - votes for his scumreads anyway day four trying to mislynch me and win the game Interactions with Tictock/NHM are basically non-existant - says he wants Tictock lynched but never follows thru on it after GGtemplar day 2 but tries to get credit - and is flip floppy on NHM Hasn't been contributing to the game and steering town in the right direction Milo is mafia. | ||
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On June 15 2015 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Scott could have tried to get a wagon on Nydus rolling much earlier. He didn't. Nydus flipped mafia. Use your head town. I tried to explain the reason why I didn't get a wagon going on Nydus - I felt it was improbable in the situation and that no body would listen or believe me. I guess I should have tried anyway, a regret I have now. GG Damdred, ty again for rethinking the game. | ||
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On June 13 2015 03:06 milo109 wrote: Hmm. So it's either Scott/Onegu/NMH or VE/Damdred/Tictock. I don't see any way mafia isn't voting along party lines. I have to figure out which is more likely. So in theory this is Milo's thinking there. He doesn't want to vote off of "party lines" - although he contrasted himself in On June 12 2015 04:56 milo109 wrote: From my point of view, VE/Damdred are almost confirmed scum after that town read. I believe he doesn't want to stick his head out on VE/Damd/TT since they will jump all over him for it and doesn't want to vote against his mafia partner. He knows he won't be around for deadline and neither will TT if a vote change occurs - and would look even worse if his vote is on Damdred then he does now if votes are changed, which did occur. | ||
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Are you willing to bus your teammate TT today instead? | ||
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On June 15 2015 08:06 Onegu wrote: Normally there are 2-3 blues It's in the OP there's only one blue. Probably why we got 3 ML's to work with instead of 2. | ||
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On June 15 2015 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I still don't get it - why doesn't milo just vote for Damdred instead of humming and hawing about making choices AFTER he'd spent the whole game thinking VE/Damdred are mafia, ONLY to vote with us at the end, when a mislynch wagon is ALREADY BUILDING on Damdred, who he'd said is mafia for the whole game? I still don't get it - he doesn't have to worry about how he looks REGARDLESS of who it's on between you/Damdred if you are town, he wins either way. So why doesn't he take the path of least resistance and vote with YOU guys yesterday if he's mafia? In all honesty I expected him to, and so did Damdred, explicitly. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE this world that you're trying to craft. I am unsure what else I can say on this topic that I have not already - Milo and TT were going to be afk - Milo mentioned his flight like three days ago. On June 15 2015 09:04 VisceraEyes wrote: And I could have won the game by voting for damdred OR you steve, if you're town as you claim. So you know that I cannot be mafia. Tell me. What makes you so certain that Onegu is town? As I pointed out, we had reached majority on Nydus WITHOUT Onegu's claim. And the reason he stated was "consolidation" which applied to the scott lynch just as much as it applied to his own Damdred lynch. If he were town and he were certain of Damdred's guilt at the time, why not cry for consolidation onto his target? It's not about the consolidation vote, it's about he could've won the game by switching from NHM to myself if he was mafia with a minute left. I'd have four votes - he would know I'm town - GG it's over. I posted this already a couple pages back. Damdred (0): Onegu, Scott, Milo109, NydusHerMain Scott (3): Damdred, VisceraEyes, Tictock, Milo109, NydusHerMain Tictock (0): Scott NydusHerMain(4): Damdred, Scott, VisceraEyes, Onegu Currently, NydusHerMain is set to be executed. Day 4 ends in 0m 0s at 14:00 MST (-07:00). (Bold response in your quote as well) If anyone who is voting for NHM (Damdred, Scott, VisceraEyes, Onegu) are not town and I am - they simply switch votes with the five minutes left on to me and the games over (Scott is mislynched with four votes as VT, GG scum wins).Easy enough sentence for me to understand. It never happened. So all of these people are basically confirmed town now to me. Onegu knows he is town as well from the above, and also knows that the bus theory is crap. Who's left? Milo and TT. Unless someone wasn't playing to their Wincon. there's no other logical answer. | ||
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So what happened to your Damdred read on day four? | ||
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