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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 25 2015 07:36 GMT
#1321
What your saying basically is trust a case by GB that doesn't make anyone mafia.

Trust palmar who's only reason to scum read me was tone. But has never caught me by tone before but by content or lack thereof.

or trust someone in trfel who hasn't re evaluated anything during mylo? Has said one lynch today has tried to push off sjockey and onto damdred piggy backing other peoples cases.

This is classic scum play here.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 25 2015 07:41 GMT
#1322
On May 25 2015 12:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oats why are you not voting Shockey?

i didnt change my vote lol, that was for emphasis
No gg, No skill.
Qwerty!
Profile Joined April 2015
106 Posts
May 25 2015 07:44 GMT
#1323
I've said about all I have to say.

But I find it interesting, for how much Damdred apparently doesn't care if he is mislynched, he seems to be caring quite a bit here.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 25 2015 07:47 GMT
#1324
Artanis[Xp], among the best active town players on the site,

lawl.

also an innocent child is very different from named vt. they are not the same thing.
No gg, No skill.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 25 2015 08:01 GMT
#1325
Ehhh I care about winning ss little as I want to care I suppose.

Though granted it could be stutters shockey qwerty I suppose.

An innocent child is a lot stronger than I think at a cursory glance in a closed setup game.

Anyway I'm sleeping
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 25 2015 09:04 GMT
#1326
On May 25 2015 17:01 Damdred wrote:
Ehhh I care about winning ss little as I want to care I suppose.

Though granted it could be stutters shockey qwerty I suppose.

An innocent child is a lot stronger than I think at a cursory glance in a closed setup game.

Anyway I'm sleeping

lol why does whether its closed or open matter.
No gg, No skill.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 25 2015 13:34 GMT
#1327
On May 24 2015 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shockey I am not holding your hand at all this game. I want you to be aware of how completely fucked you are if you don't obvtown this thread up in the next few hours.

I am perfectly willing to sink this game by killing you tomorrow regardless of your alignment and you being a lazy shit is not helping your case. You have been the counterwagon to town TWICE and both times your "associative analysis" has been opportunistic and incorrect by calling me the same alignment as three different confirmed townies, which is completely useless and never seems to affect your opinion on anything.

You don't reanalyze your thought process.
Nothing that happens ever seems to change your reads.
You don't give a shit about what anyone says about anything except maybe yourself.
You're not reading the thread.

Everyone left aside from maybe ONE person wants you dead, and he's pretty much the only reason that you're still here. Get to work.


Obi, at this point from a town perspective, who would you lynch besides me and why? I know you mentioned Damdred, but what's the reason why?

At this point I'm willing to try and make sure we can get a correct scum lynch before the day is over. I was on the first counter wagon against you due to wrong reads and association, I was playing at a lazy pace due to a lot of work, but it was a better wagon than Vivax who ended up being town. The second lead wagon was Zealos, who you can't blame looked like mafia from the get go, the lack of posting showed he quit when they targeted him which made him an easy accidental lynch.

The game has gotten to a point where I now need to show more attention, the post Qwerty! made about Damdred is very good, all in all, we've had more people read Damdred and point out flaws than anybody else in this game. Yet Damdred is very loose about the game in terms of winning or losing, that just seems odd to me. A town player would always want to go for the win. Even if they're just mostly lurking - which makes Qwerty! to me a town player, especially now that he's trying to bring flames at the last minute.

Now I know you have questions for me before you decide to let me into your wagon and I will answer to the best of my ability.
Life?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 25 2015 15:09 GMT
#1328
On May 25 2015 22:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shockey I am not holding your hand at all this game. I want you to be aware of how completely fucked you are if you don't obvtown this thread up in the next few hours.

I am perfectly willing to sink this game by killing you tomorrow regardless of your alignment and you being a lazy shit is not helping your case. You have been the counterwagon to town TWICE and both times your "associative analysis" has been opportunistic and incorrect by calling me the same alignment as three different confirmed townies, which is completely useless and never seems to affect your opinion on anything.

You don't reanalyze your thought process.
Nothing that happens ever seems to change your reads.
You don't give a shit about what anyone says about anything except maybe yourself.
You're not reading the thread.

Everyone left aside from maybe ONE person wants you dead, and he's pretty much the only reason that you're still here. Get to work.


Obi, at this point from a town perspective, who would you lynch besides me and why? I know you mentioned Damdred, but what's the reason why?

At this point I'm willing to try and make sure we can get a correct scum lynch before the day is over. I was on the first counter wagon against you due to wrong reads and association, I was playing at a lazy pace due to a lot of work, but it was a better wagon than Vivax who ended up being town. The second lead wagon was Zealos, who you can't blame looked like mafia from the get go, the lack of posting showed he quit when they targeted him which made him an easy accidental lynch.

The game has gotten to a point where I now need to show more attention, the post Qwerty! made about Damdred is very good, all in all, we've had more people read Damdred and point out flaws than anybody else in this game. Yet Damdred is very loose about the game in terms of winning or losing, that just seems odd to me. A town player would always want to go for the win. Even if they're just mostly lurking - which makes Qwerty! to me a town player, especially now that he's trying to bring flames at the last minute.

Now I know you have questions for me before you decide to let me into your wagon and I will answer to the best of my ability.


You are in no position to question me about anything.

Tell me who is mafia and why.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 25 2015 15:10 GMT
#1329
On May 25 2015 16:44 Qwerty! wrote:
I've said about all I have to say.

But I find it interesting, for how much Damdred apparently doesn't care if he is mislynched, he seems to be caring quite a bit here.


I don't find that tidbit interesting at all.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 25 2015 15:11 GMT
#1330
On May 25 2015 16:36 Damdred wrote:
What your saying basically is trust a case by GB that doesn't make anyone mafia.

Trust palmar who's only reason to scum read me was tone. But has never caught me by tone before but by content or lack thereof.

or trust someone in trfel who hasn't re evaluated anything during mylo? Has said one lynch today has tried to push off sjockey and onto damdred piggy backing other peoples cases.

This is classic scum play here.


Are you just omgusing Trfel or is there something beyond that?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 25 2015 16:17 GMT
#1331
Is anyone here?
Retired.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 25 2015 16:27 GMT
#1332
I'm awake now. I've been scum reading trfel since n1 obi when he was so sure vivax was town over nothing and switched off the vivax wagon onto you I believe.

It is interesting that shockey was so sure I'm town in previous postings and he he showed a propensity for sticking to his guns 100% and not caring what anyone said past that point but here he shows....idk a wanting to jump to follow trfel?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 25 2015 16:33 GMT
#1333
On May 26 2015 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 22:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 24 2015 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shockey I am not holding your hand at all this game. I want you to be aware of how completely fucked you are if you don't obvtown this thread up in the next few hours.

I am perfectly willing to sink this game by killing you tomorrow regardless of your alignment and you being a lazy shit is not helping your case. You have been the counterwagon to town TWICE and both times your "associative analysis" has been opportunistic and incorrect by calling me the same alignment as three different confirmed townies, which is completely useless and never seems to affect your opinion on anything.

You don't reanalyze your thought process.
Nothing that happens ever seems to change your reads.
You don't give a shit about what anyone says about anything except maybe yourself.
You're not reading the thread.

Everyone left aside from maybe ONE person wants you dead, and he's pretty much the only reason that you're still here. Get to work.


Obi, at this point from a town perspective, who would you lynch besides me and why? I know you mentioned Damdred, but what's the reason why?

At this point I'm willing to try and make sure we can get a correct scum lynch before the day is over. I was on the first counter wagon against you due to wrong reads and association, I was playing at a lazy pace due to a lot of work, but it was a better wagon than Vivax who ended up being town. The second lead wagon was Zealos, who you can't blame looked like mafia from the get go, the lack of posting showed he quit when they targeted him which made him an easy accidental lynch.

The game has gotten to a point where I now need to show more attention, the post Qwerty! made about Damdred is very good, all in all, we've had more people read Damdred and point out flaws than anybody else in this game. Yet Damdred is very loose about the game in terms of winning or losing, that just seems odd to me. A town player would always want to go for the win. Even if they're just mostly lurking - which makes Qwerty! to me a town player, especially now that he's trying to bring flames at the last minute.

Now I know you have questions for me before you decide to let me into your wagon and I will answer to the best of my ability.


You are in no position to question me about anything.

Tell me who is mafia and why.


Damdred/TheShining/Oats

Damdred:
First off, as mentioned everyone in the beginning of the game was against Damdred, even Palmar who was first night's kill.

On May 18 2015 06:51 Damdred wrote:
I'm disappointed in you Palmar, you've never caught me like that and you never will.

Besides if you lynch me here you have to share the headline with GB, and do you really want that


This post is extremely scummy, especially the bolded part. Of course Palmar will never catch him, because he killed him off night one.

On May 18 2015 13:28 Damdred wrote:
My reasoning o. Palmar isn't that weak lol


Wasn't that weak? It was weak, it was still the beginning of the game, he completely knew at this point Palmar was town.

On May 19 2015 03:13 Damdred wrote:
If all activity remains the same with content we lynch in the order of

Ze, shock, obi

Maybe switch shock and obi. And policy for shining and palmar if we go that direction


This next post talks about three town people, he advocates a lynch for us to see who he can get a wagon on. Notice how he's mostly sheeped cases where the result was a town flipped.

Palmar was on to damdred from the beginning, until the Vivax situation happened where Damdred figured he'd be able to help kill off a town on day one.

On May 20 2015 01:55 Damdred wrote:
I might be ok lynching vivax today, I'm not positive I want to lynch obi today


He was ok with lynching Vivax cause he already knew his alignment. The obi situation would come later at this point. If I would of made a push for you Obi, he would gladly jump on it because he it would result in a town flip. From there, that night Palmar dies instantly, next day, Zealos due to my incorrect reading, helping him increase the winning potential for mafia.

On May 23 2015 03:52 Damdred wrote:
That was a good post by shockey. Don't lynch him


He states he backs my post up, why is he doing this? Cause he knew if he threw his weight on to my wagon, we would lynch off a town, my lynch was obviously coming up this day and he was well aware of that, which is why he doesn't mind lynching me now.

He's on board to lynch me since it's currently the easiest lynch, my style of posting came off as scum and mostly everyone is against me. GB even advocated to lynch Damdred if it wasn't due to my style of posting. So what did he do? He killed off GB before my lynch since it'll make the game easier. My lynch will flip town and Damdred will get his way.

It's obvious I was very focused on a select three, but I was wrong about all of them. I'm trying to make it right and help town now with this push to lynch the real mafia player and have the upper advantage.

##vote damdred


Going to post about Shining now.
Life?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 25 2015 16:33 GMT
#1334
It is also interesting at a cursory look in trfels filter the way he treats you obi. Look at the progression on the read

D1 I'd rather lynch obi today. Omg vivax is town everyone switch to obi
N1 Obi is lock scum. Well I'm not so confident obi is scul anymore
d2 to now. No real talking about any type of feeling about obi instead begs obi to switch to me when he should probably still be wary.

I think the main point is the lack there of fear today of you obi, and the shift and lack of follow up on you just seems weird to me.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 25 2015 16:36 GMT
#1335
On May 26 2015 01:27 Damdred wrote:
I'm awake now. I've been scum reading trfel since n1 obi when he was so sure vivax was town over nothing and switched off the vivax wagon onto you I believe.

It is interesting that shockey was so sure I'm town in previous postings and he he showed a propensity for sticking to his guns 100% and not caring what anyone said past that point but here he shows....idk a wanting to jump to follow trfel?


Qwerty comes off as town at this point, his voting says he really doesn't know who he wants to lynch and is at least trying to make correct choices based on people's views of others. Obi at this point is really reading town to me after all the misguided lynches I was after.
Life?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 25 2015 16:37 GMT
#1336
On May 26 2015 01:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 01:27 Damdred wrote:
I'm awake now. I've been scum reading trfel since n1 obi when he was so sure vivax was town over nothing and switched off the vivax wagon onto you I believe.

It is interesting that shockey was so sure I'm town in previous postings and he he showed a propensity for sticking to his guns 100% and not caring what anyone said past that point but here he shows....idk a wanting to jump to follow trfel?


Qwerty comes off as town at this point, his voting says he really doesn't know who he wants to lynch and is at least trying to make correct choices based on people's views of others. Obi at this point is really reading town to me after all the misguided lynches I was after.


Why am I town?
Retired.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 25 2015 16:37 GMT
#1337
On May 26 2015 01:33 Damdred wrote:
It is also interesting at a cursory look in trfels filter the way he treats you obi. Look at the progression on the read

D1 I'd rather lynch obi today. Omg vivax is town everyone switch to obi
N1 Obi is lock scum. Well I'm not so confident obi is scul anymore
d2 to now. No real talking about any type of feeling about obi instead begs obi to switch to me when he should probably still be wary.

I think the main point is the lack there of fear today of you obi, and the shift and lack of follow up on you just seems weird to me.


It's not weird, it's a town move to win the game while you have no objective to win the game as a "town".
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 25 2015 16:38 GMT
#1338
...Tbh if I was scum and I knew shockey was town I wouldn't of killed GB he wanted to kill shockey more than me.

heh scum 2 found.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 25 2015 16:40 GMT
#1339
On May 26 2015 01:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 01:33 Damdred wrote:
It is also interesting at a cursory look in trfels filter the way he treats you obi. Look at the progression on the read

D1 I'd rather lynch obi today. Omg vivax is town everyone switch to obi
N1 Obi is lock scum. Well I'm not so confident obi is scul anymore
d2 to now. No real talking about any type of feeling about obi instead begs obi to switch to me when he should probably still be wary.

I think the main point is the lack there of fear today of you obi, and the shift and lack of follow up on you just seems weird to me.


It's not weird, it's a town move to win the game while you have no objective to win the game as a "town".


I bet you can't explain how a progression of scum, definitely scum to I'm not sure, no follow up comes from 100% town.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 25 2015 16:42 GMT
#1340
I don't really find the points shockey raised on damdred compelling at all. So much nitpicking/useless shit in there.

Some of it is also taken completely out of context as well.
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