No offense here, but claiming mason when the only person I could be masons to is shining is probably the absolute lowest possible play I could do.

If you think I'm scum you have to think I'm an idiot, if ik town I just tried a play that didn't work.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

May 25 2015 18:08 GMT

#1365

Where did you say wait until the next cycle?

And if you guys are both scum, that vote is irrelevant because he'll just last second ninja if it will win the game and it won't matter. I'm not concerned about either of your votes, just that town consolidates.

Damdred

15669 Posts

May 25 2015 18:09 GMT

#1366

I claim blue to get shot etc. A lot its pretty common thing for me to do meh. If GB had left me alone maybe I would have idk

Damdred

15669 Posts

May 25 2015 18:13 GMT

#1367

On May 25 2015 16:27 Damdred wrote:
Obi, sometimes I am hard on people in thread.

This is insanely hard to believe but I do respect most of the people ij the thread though I was overly abbrassive at points. Night kills are highly wifom, killing GB at this juncture is something I probably wouldn't do.

Now you have played with me when I'm scum and you have been in games where I have been scum as town. In this world what people are saying is this.

Damdred has 100% totally changed his mafia meta and instead of hard bussing his par ers at signs of weakness he instead just pushes town mislynches. This is total wifom, and there are really really good reasons to think I could be scum. However I was wrong on zealos wrong on vivax but being wrong doesn't make me scum ot just makes me dumb this game.

However I think you are town which makes scum team shockey, oats and trfel.

I am a good player one who highly basis a lot of early reads on meta. This is why I am able to read certain players I play a lot with RS, palmar etc pretty well. I demonstrated that here does it make me scum? No it makes me right.

Also claiming mason is the stupidest thing scum to do, and look at the jntennable situation that I left myself in, the only person who could claim mason with me and basically win the game if we were scum together called me a liar in thread and said I was scum.

Also that Linux thing trfel quoted I was town and fake claimed blue under pressure of tunnel. I did the same thing in xxx night of debauchery.

I would like to say I don't care about winning and would rather lose and spite GB being wrong on me. But id rather win here. We should kill shockey today stutters claims tommorow we end the game killing oats and trfel.

Just stay the course. It is interesting eight at the sign of weakness all these players start pushing me a bit lol

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

May 25 2015 18:14 GMT

#1368

Vote Count:

ShoCkeyy(5) - Oatsmaster, Obiwanshinobi, Onegu, The Shining, Damdred
Damdred(2) - qwerty!, stutters695

until lynch!

Shockkey is set to be lynched!

Stutters695

2610 Posts

May 25 2015 18:28 GMT

#1369

So after it was clear I wasn't going to claim anyway.

Damdred

15669 Posts

May 25 2015 18:30 GMT

#1370

Ok GB Jr. Keep voting with your scum read

Damdred

15669 Posts

May 25 2015 18:31 GMT

#1371

And considering obi wants to kill you for not claiming lolol

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

May 25 2015 18:38 GMT

#1372

Has stutters still not claimed?

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

May 25 2015 18:39 GMT

#1373

Stutters I can't parse those links via phone either, what are you trying to say?

Qwerty!

106 Posts

May 25 2015 18:46 GMT

#1374

I feel that ShoCkeyy's latest series of posts have actually been fairly towny.

His arguments aren't great, but his reasoning is there, and I can understand why he arrives at the conclusions that he does. He also genuinely feels like a towny getting mislynched in MYLO, but he sees a potential way out and he's working towards it.

Meanwhile, Damdred is ignoring the arguments that have been presented against him and is instead attacking the people who scumread him. I don't know how the fact that I've used the same arguments as other people (including a flipped town) can possibly be scummy, that's the only reasonable thing for a town player to do in this situation. I'm not trying to be a hero and show how much work I can do, and how amazing my reads are, I'm simply trying to lynch scum.

I also don't understand why Damdred is so defensive of his early read on Palmar, while he is very heavily scumreading me for realizing that Vivax was likely town. The situation was largely similar. Town Damdred knows that once in a while, people (even worse players like me) see things that he doesn't, and knows that this doesn't make them scum.

Stutters is almost certainly town. I won't lynch him.

If you want to go ahead and lynch ShoCkeyy, I can't stop you... but it's a mislynch.

Onegu, Obi, let's win this game.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

May 25 2015 18:48 GMT

#1375

What has Damdred ignored?

Qwerty!

106 Posts

May 25 2015 18:54 GMT

#1376

On May 26 2015 03:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
What has Damdred ignored?

He hasn't explained how his blue claim wasn't clearly harmful for town. Especially since he claimed masons with The Shining after the night ended.

He never explained why he didn't even attempt to draw conclusions about GlowingBear's early play, even upon request.

And I mostly don't like his explanations for the rest of the stuff.

If this were a bus, you would see people pushing ShoCkeyy more. You would see scum doing a little more to ensure that they actually get credit for the lynch. The fact that you don't really have anyone pushing ShoCkeyy says that this is a mislynch. Before I started posting, there was nothing at all. Now, there's really only people saying that they don't want to lynch Damdred.

Qwerty!

106 Posts

May 25 2015 18:57 GMT

#1377

Also, ShoCkeyy didn't vote in the voting thread.

I feel that this is again slightly more indicative that he is town. Partly because scum would have QTmates to shout at him. Mostly because this suggests that he isn't just putting in a token effort and letting himself die, or he would have voted. His recent posting feels motivated, and I can't imagine that someone in such a bad spot as him would get motivated enough to post like that as scum, when your team is almost certain to win anyway.

Damdred

15669 Posts

May 25 2015 18:58 GMT

#1378

Trfel not reading the thread?

I've answered all of those things?

Damdred

15669 Posts

May 25 2015 18:59 GMT

#1379

Obi can we switch to trfel please

Qwerty!

106 Posts

May 25 2015 19:01 GMT

#1380

On May 26 2015 03:58 Damdred wrote:
Trfel not reading the thread?

I've answered all of those things?

I'm not talking to you after this post.

You're scum, you're not posting constructively. You HAVE NOT answered these things, if you have, please go quote them.

Last night, after I posted my scumread of you, you ignored the arguments and started posting attacks without basis. I won't let you get into a pointless fight with me, the goal is to solve the game, and that can't be accomplished with useless bickering. If you want to actually converse in a sensible manner, please let me know.