Newbie Student Mafia X

On May 18 2015 21:22 marvellosity wrote:
now we just need TotalBiscuit to join

On May 22 2015 07:39 Tictock wrote:
Batsnacks are you throwing Iching reading for us?

On May 22 2015 07:45 disformation wrote:


Still can't process the lake floating in the sky above the mountain. Might take some time to answer questions regarding actual content. xD

On May 22 2015 07:45 Tictock wrote:


Before I answer, what was on your mind as you cast your sticks (or coins, w/e you used)?

On May 22 2015 07:55 Tictock wrote:

Oh? Why is he scum?

On May 22 2015 07:31 Bill Murray wrote:
it's barely too much ninja if it were 26 bunnies you'd be cool

On May 22 2015 09:01 disformation wrote:
Uh. Didn't realize the Mafia QT would be open since 24h either. Otherwise I would have said something about his cheap read. xD
Still not seeing a lot to lynch sicklucker though. I kinda expected him to post "lol didn't read" stuff regardless of his alignment anyway. Though he was super eager to paint himself townie:



Solid town read on Tictock for now. Asking all the questions I wish I had asked. xD
I agree that BM should explain his bunnies vote, if he is as serious as he claims.

On May 23 2015 02:30 Tictock wrote:
Actually batsnacks I wouldn't mind knowing why you used such strong language regarding BF in that post. I agree with your overall statement, but "never mafia this game" raises flags. I think Dis asking for why you are saying this is totally fair.

To ask it another way. What has you so sure BF is town?

On May 23 2015 03:10 Barakos wrote:



Dunno, what you mean by singling out.. i was just curious about what you would read out of it and am now a bit dissappointed, that your only reads out of it are some townpoints for answering. sounded like one could hope for more.

but then again as you wrote, maybe you just mixed up the names?

On May 23 2015 18:44 Barakos wrote:
@batsnacks:
As I said, I am disappointed by the results you got out of the reactions to your iching... It seems like I put more thoughts into them, then you did. This at least raises an eyebrow and also makes you look suspicios, cause you generated discussion which you didn't really follow up / only followed up half-heartedly, which is very little, given the fact, that you premade this stuff, so one could expect, you have an actual plan for this and not just "townpoints, because they reacted".

As an example of what you could expect: Compare TicTocks reaction to disformations reaction. TicTocks mindset / interpretation of your iching is all about solving the game, while disformations is about what it means to be town.
Out of this, you can see, what this two had in minde while reading your text... Tictock was all about solving the game (which is town, since mafia doesn't need to solve anything, they now it all.). Disformation was all about how to be town, which is mafias main-concern all game long.
This is also why I got an early townread on tictock... mostly based on this one reaction to your post.

Also these two posts:

post 1

post 2

are made within 40 minutes of each other and there is no visible thought-process between them...
Please explain this vote-jump, cause i don't see any connection between sls 2 posts he made in between this posts and the switch in your stance toward him. (and you forgot to ##unvote...)

You don't really look good in my eyes.

On May 22 2015 07:00 sicklucker wrote:
1st

On May 22 2015 07:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Scum

On May 22 2015 07:11 disformation wrote:


Typical first reaction to a sicklucker post: *facepalm*, then I think about it for a second and start to laugh madly.
Well the fluff and stuff was already included in the op post and where the roles where explained. I think someone also posted where this fluff comes from?

I don't know much about it, but the touhou games are bullethell games where the main characters are little girls with magical powers.

On May 22 2015 07:31 Bill Murray wrote:
##vote:27ninjabunnies the problem is it's barely too much ninja if it were 26 bunnies you'd be cool

On May 23 2015 20:07 sicklucker wrote:
Bats whats your acual scum read on me because I dont believe it. Sell me

On May 23 2015 20:39 Barakos wrote:


I'm picking on you, because you are the only one, who actually prepared something, said he could draw conclusions out of it and then has no followup.
Plus the discussion you created had nothing to do with bringing the game forward but with interpreting poetry.
The crap you quoted is obvious trolling / fun... your crap is premade and not followed up by you...

I don't really care if you think me pointing this out makes me look bad... it makes you look way worse.

On May 25 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote:
Im not gonna argue over a check I did or did not make. but why would I not check one of the new players I cant read with a scum lean on?

On May 25 2015 08:18 sicklucker wrote:
I think we lynch between bats/bm boxerfred?

a bunnies lynch wouldnt make me happy but I wouldnt cry about it

On May 25 2015 08:24 sicklucker wrote:


didnt read yet

On May 25 2015 08:25 sicklucker wrote:
ok wow thats a big post. So i cant be scum with bm now. Whos my partner?

On May 25 2015 09:34 sicklucker wrote:


i can confirm his tool has been a great town finding tool in me

On May 25 2015 09:36 sicklucker wrote:
like someone told me how to read batsnacks once when I asked. I mislynched him a tune so I asked.

When hes scum he does not push people (like this game)

when hes town he does so far this read has held up

On May 25 2015 09:40 sicklucker wrote:
Bats your backtracking again. That was you who said only you would make a huge chart as mafia? You said no towns do that. Now your trying to put scum on him?

I think this was a slip ##vote batsnacks

On May 25 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote:


BUT YOU SAID HES 100% TOWN. If I were to rate how strong of a townread you gave plot for day1 it was a 10/10

who cares if he gives shit reads most towns do. We know hes town theres no reason to put shit on him. This is standard mad scum play and retracting on a townread because you need a lynch

On May 25 2015 20:56 sicklucker wrote:


idk why do you think I fake checked him of all people. SO I didnt have to read his filter untill the next day. Procrastination is my game

On May 26 2015 19:51 Barakos wrote:
why's that and why is your vote on bunnies? I can't remember you giving a reason for your vote.

On May 26 2015 20:36 disformation wrote:
Currently at work. So semi-available.

@Barakos:
Will, look at that, but it wasn't intended. xD

@batsnacks:
I'm agreeing to your last two posts. But I want to stress that I want 27ninjabunnies to be super compelling at this point.
So... in case we don't lynch sicklucker or 27ninjabunnies, who would your top scum reads be? Briefly skimmed your filter, but I couldn't find that. I gather that you are not a fan of Sulfurus?

On May 26 2015 21:46 sicklucker wrote:
Bats did are interaction not make you go screw it and vote scott right after me? Because thats how I saw it

On May 26 2015 22:19 boxerfred wrote:

I'm just saying that I don't get why you go that hard on "THERE IS NO SK". I think there is!

On May 26 2015 23:40 Barakos wrote:
@ bats, could you answer regarding my question about the sl case?

For example the part about him hunting roles... you tell boxerfred, that rolespeculations are bad and help mafia, yet you seem to ignore it, when sl does it.

On May 26 2015 23:58 Barakos wrote:


You mean this wonderfull read?
After which he doesn't answer anymore?

Or the other time, where you asked him about me and he answers "don't care, gotta not get lynched"?

Because other than that i don't find any reads in sls filter that he gave in response to you asking.
The other stuff he writes about me is him trying to make up, why I could be scum and voting me, only to unvote me, after I made my case vs him.

Unless I miss something (point out please) he never gave you any kind of read about me.

On May 26 2015 09:37 sicklucker wrote:
This is interesting. Barakos does not mention scott once day 1. Pretty strange for the lading mafia wagon. Then when day 2 starts he makes this post trying to discredit people who voted scott (classic mafia tactic)




you dont say? ty for that qt info

On May 27 2015 03:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Why are you voting BM then?

What are you reasonings on me?

On May 27 2015 04:13 Tictock wrote:
@ BS
Other than being somewhat inactive. Why do you think Sul might be scum?

Or is that more a PoE list there?
27nb
BM
Sul

On May 27 2015 06:06 disformation wrote:


If you have a suggestion and a reason for who we should lynch instead, I am all ears.

On May 27 2015 21:58 Breshke wrote:
Noone read this but SL

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 27 2015 23:06 Breshke wrote:


dude stop drawing attention to it. This is easily the dumbest thing he has done

On May 28 2015 03:38 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I reread, talking about roles in night is dumb. Mafia is gonna kill rolereads. So shut up.

What's a good reason for lynching me tomorrow?

On May 28 2015 07:38 disformation wrote:


I can totally see bunnies being your N2 check...
but why barakos?

On May 28 2015 07:41 disformation wrote:
I am a bit weary because... masons... and town roleblocker... and cop? never!

On May 28 2015 07:46 disformation wrote:


cop is also the best role to claim for mafia in this situation, imo.

On May 28 2015 06:59 batsnacks wrote:
barakos is town

On May 28 2015 07:54 disformation wrote:


Ah, right.
Also batsnacks two cop checks totally make sense, when I looked at his filter. Hells he even asks you and bunnies what you think about barakos on D2.
Still not digging all these claims flying around...

Also... wasn't a fan of Sulfurus basically all damn game long... have at ye:
##vote: Sulfurus

On May 28 2015 08:14 sicklucker wrote:
what if theirs two mafia roleblockers

On May 28 2015 08:22 disformation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

I second the notion and think we have a really ridic setup at hand. With that in mind, I don't think the town rb (if there is one) should claim?

On May 28 2015 09:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:


BAM BITCHES!

Told you I was town

On May 28 2015 09:48 Sulfurus wrote:
@Batsnacks How do you know Bunnies is not the GF?

On May 28 2015 19:29 Tictock wrote:
Bats I said it was a slim possibility.

You jumped on BM for no reason, and now offer up Sul as a target for no reason.

I think I have valid reasons to be unsure of you right now.

On May 28 2015 20:04 Tictock wrote:
Ok fine, it's wrong 100% that bats could be anything but cop

This was like the least important thing I said in the last few pages and you all are honing in on it

What about the huge post I made looking at Sul are we just going to ignore that?

On May 28 2015 20:08 Tictock wrote:
What about the point I made about him calling BM mislynch bait?

What about the question WHAT MAKES HIM SCUM?

On May 29 2015 03:02 sicklucker wrote:


who does that leave.

Altho sulf didnt vote to save her. He didnt vote against her he wasted his vote if i recall correctly. He simply could have been waiting to see if bunnies needed his vote to survive and if so use it

On May 29 2015 03:13 disformation wrote:


Did I miss something? boxerfred is still left, too.

On May 29 2015 03:16 disformation wrote:
So we just should look really hard at these people decide, on a list and lynch them.

On May 29 2015 03:53 sicklucker wrote:


barakos is probably just town because he got roleblocked and kp went through. at least decreased

On May 29 2015 04:54 Sulfurus wrote:
@Batsnacks What I will say is that the way I would describe my own play is that it's very passive; in most cases I am more concerned with getting my reads heard then pushing any particular lynch especially since I have been happy with the direction town has been going in until recently.

Is that scummy to you?

On May 29 2015 05:51 plotspot wrote:
Bats, cakepie said we should talk about the balance of the game after the game is finished. Please don't assume something is fair or not fair for this or that setup.

On May 29 2015 06:17 plotspot wrote:


Are you sure you have checked all the possibilities (also from the side of mafia) and came to the conclusion that it is unusual? No one is lying we are simply unclaimed blue roles, that's all there is to it. We should avoid talking about, it can only benefit mafia considering CClaiming.

On May 29 2015 06:21 disformation wrote:


Upon rereading it N2, I found it strange that your only interaction with bunnies was asking her for a read on barakos.

On May 29 2015 06:32 disformation wrote:


meant to say "upon rereading your D2 behaviour during N2".

On May 29 2015 06:41 plotspot wrote:
Or maybe if you have time you can explain to me why mason-mason is so strong. In my inexperienced eye they are just two confirmed towns to each other, and this gives them some sort of potential to sheep and defend each other, but I cannot see how it's related to these night-activity roles. I feel like I compare bananas and apples.

On May 29 2015 07:03 Tictock wrote:
@ Bats

If you even have the slightest doubt that I am not Bre's partner.

I'm here, ask away.

I still need to look through your filter and double check that I believe your Cop claim. Besides that one slim point I made, I really was willing to believe it earlier. It matches up with your play being somewhat lurky and you not always giving us great reasoning for stuff. I also think you doubting your own checks now given unknown setups means you are more willing to look at this game critically, which makes you obv town.

On May 29 2015 07:26 Tictock wrote:
Bre was 100% wrong about one thing though...

He said "Your not going to get much info tomorrow since everyone will pile 27nb"

Today has actually been one of the most interesting days IMO

On May 30 2015 01:37 Tictock wrote:
@ Bats

I think RB is invented and he's goon, catchup please

On May 30 2015 01:47 Tictock wrote:
Hole crap do I have to keep spelling this out for everyone?

Plots is Mafia Goon. Bara is GF

He was willing to play so crazy today because between the check from bats and his invented RB stuff, which we only have word of through plots and Bara, would give Bara plenty of towncred to ride out much of the game. Especially when Town is so willing to sit around lynching people not talking much.

These 2 people are the only ones saying I made some crazy defense of Sul here, when it's at best a null read.

They are also the only 2 clinging to this RB role, since it's what their towncred relies on.

On May 30 2015 02:08 Tictock wrote:
Honestly town can do whatever it wants.

I'm not sheeping this weak as hell case on Sul. I'm more convinced 27nb just doesn't care at this point.

I could be way out in WIFOM land but at least I'm trying.

On May 30 2015 04:11 plotspot wrote:
batsnacks, if you think bunnies and sulfurus are the mafia pair, then lynching Sulfurus is the mechanically sounder play, because you actually copchecked bunnies. My opinion is that bunnies is just a lazy townie.

On May 30 2015 04:32 plotspot wrote:
Ok I understand so is Sulfurus scummyness < Bunnies's scummyness + 80% being confirmed town? It's 80% bats. It's like I I give you 10 people (5 scum, 5 townies), and you always read 8 out of 10 correct. If you can say yes, your vote should stay on Bunnies if not you should switch to Sulfurus.

On May 23 2015 00:59 scott31337 wrote:
I like Rels the most so far, his list post has a lot of good thoughts and questions. Not lynching today.
Tictock seems like his town game so far - Not a D1 lynch

I don't like BM's post here -




He's trying to incite Sulfurus here using emotion - Calling him a noob, says he doesn't know what he is doing, etc because he used his "last name"? Sulfurus has not replied to this yet, though. Often this is a mafia trait, and doing it to a "noob" so quickly is pretty bad.

Sulf hasn't done much in the game either, and seems tunneled on BM.

Batsnacks could go either way, he needs to set up some Battraps(tm) though, that'd be great.

BM would be at the top of my lynch list at the moment though - but we have plenty of time

Anyone have any questions for me?

On May 30 2015 05:02 disformation wrote:


Wouldn't defending teammates too much be a common scum mistake?

On May 30 2015 05:30 sicklucker wrote:


wouldnt it be epic if we were right and found mafia tho?

On May 30 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
I feel like boxerfred has a great chance to flip mafia

On May 30 2015 05:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Im not defendng because i have to go to work, and im kinda worn out by this game.

If you lynch me, you lynch me, but you are lynching a green check, which is dumb.

I've repeatedly said to lynch outside of greens and look into other people outside of blues.

but nooooooooooooo.

Lynch the greencheck

dumb

On May 30 2015 06:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Am i not allowed?
I just came for EOD.

On June 04 2015 07:11 Damdred wrote:
So I read most of this game and I have to say i'm really impressed with a lot of the newbie plays this game.

It was a really good game to read I think. Box realy really good play I can't wait to see you in a normal game. Not to bad yourself tick, gotta work on the tunnel a little bit but it will come in time.

Is town favored but it was still a good game.

Well played all