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On May 18 2015 21:22 marvellosity wrote: now we just need TotalBiscuit to join TotalBiscuit TotalBiscuit TotalBiscuit *waits* | ||
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below is KEEPING STILL, MOUNTAIN Influence. Success. When a weak element is above (the lake) and a strong element is below (the mountain), their powers attract each other so that they unite. This brings about success, for all success depends on the effect of mutual attraction Perseverance furthers. By keeping still within while experiencing joy without, one can prevent the joy from going to excess and hold it within proper bounds. This is the meaning of, "Perseverance furthers." To take a maiden to wife brings good fortune Heaven and earth attract each other and thus all creatures come into being. From the attractions they exert we can learn the nature of all beings in heaven and on earth. A lake on the mountain: The image of influence. Thus the superior man encourages people to approach him By his readiness to receive them. A mountain with a lake on its summit is stimulated by the moisture from the lake. It has this advantage because its summit does not jut out as a peak but is sunken. The image counsels that the mind should be kept humble and free, so that it may remain receptive to good advice. People soon give up counseling a man who thinks that he knows everything better than anyone else. The influence shows itself in the calves of the legs. Misfortune. Tarrying brings good fortune. In movement, the calf of the leg follows the foot; by itself it can neither go forward nor stand still. Since the movement is not self-governed, it bodes ill. One should wait quietly until one is impelled to action by a real influence. Then one remains uninjured. | ||
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On May 22 2015 07:39 Tictock wrote: Batsnacks are you throwing Iching reading for us? On a scale of 1 to 10 how relevant is this reading and which parts do you think best apply to the game or good town play in general? | ||
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On May 22 2015 07:45 disformation wrote: Still can't process the lake floating in the sky above the mountain. Might take some time to answer questions regarding actual content. xD The lake isn't floating that wouldn't make any sense. It's just a lake at the top of a mountain like at the summit or something. On May 22 2015 07:45 Tictock wrote: Before I answer, what was on your mind as you cast your sticks (or coins, w/e you used)? Newbie Student Mafia X was on my mind. duh. | ||
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On May 22 2015 07:31 Bill Murray wrote: it's barely too much ninja if it were 26 bunnies you'd be cool That's your second DUH. Three strikes and yer outta here! | ||
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I had a different opinion on the calf following the foot. I took it to mean that it is better to be quiet until there is a reason to speak than to just do meaningless things for no reason. Which isn't necessarily true in mafia but that's the meaning my mind seemed to wander after. I think there is a lot of value in vague words and how people interpret them so I post iching inspired stuff a lot in mafia games. | ||
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Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things. ##vote: sicklucker | ||
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On May 22 2015 09:01 disformation wrote: Uh. Didn't realize the Mafia QT would be open since 24h either. Otherwise I would have said something about his cheap read. xD Still not seeing a lot to lynch sicklucker though. I kinda expected him to post "lol didn't read" stuff regardless of his alignment anyway. Though he was super eager to paint himself townie: Solid town read on Tictock for now. Asking all the questions I wish I had asked. xD I agree that BM should explain his bunnies vote, if he is as serious as he claims. You're probably going to hit a wall here because he is almost certainly as serious as he claims. He has fired his shot the ball is in our court now. | ||
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I have items of interest: Rels you should narrow down your "would lynch" list to at most 2 people, preferably one. Having too many "would lynches" can lead to you being able to pick any optimal target you want as mafia. That said its I don't think you're mafia and it's great that you have found so many different things to be suspicious of. But yeah, moving forward its best to narrow that list down by a lot. Boxerfred is never mafia in this game. I am extremely critical of anyone that thinks they can scumread him for any reason. That said, boxerfred should lay off the role speculation. It's too early to speculate about that stuff. Breshke's pressure is good, the stuff he said about bunnies is the strongest case I've read. I was leaning scum on bunnies and she made some decent responses. I am critical of her scumread or whatever it is on boxerfred I don't understand how anyone can scum read that guy. If I were near a computer or had more time for anything but a brief update I would probably be filtering bunnies. | ||
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On May 23 2015 02:30 Tictock wrote: Actually batsnacks I wouldn't mind knowing why you used such strong language regarding BF in that post. I agree with your overall statement, but "never mafia this game" raises flags. I think Dis asking for why you are saying this is totally fair. To ask it another way. What has you so sure BF is town? All of his posts. As is he could never post again and I'd still probably lynch most of the game over him. I haven't read anything compelling about why he could be mafia so my read on him can't be a problem. | ||
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I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then. | ||
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On May 23 2015 03:10 Barakos wrote: Dunno, what you mean by singling out.. i was just curious about what you would read out of it and am now a bit dissappointed, that your only reads out of it are some townpoints for answering. sounded like one could hope for more. but then again as you wrote, maybe you just mixed up the names? Not really sure what you were expecting tbh :/ I mean if anything wouldn't you be a little suspicious if I told you I got some amazing reads out of it? It's all right there in the thread. As far as early game bs goes I think it was at least decent though. I got people to talk about something and quickly moved on to the more productive SL train. | ||
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I read bunnies filter and she's okay. I also read that post by sulfur and it was okay. So Scott. ##vote: scott31337 | ||
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Mafia boxerfred is thinking "sweet, I got a free townread from batsnacks, he's the greatest." Mafia boxerfred probably doesn't pursue me after this because he doesn't need to. Mafia boxerfred is officially off my radar and safe. If mafia boxerfred does try to communicate with me, he probably makes it about the townread because that is what he is interested in. Town boxerfred is thinking "hmm... This handsome batsnacks fellow is townreading me for free. Maybe I should ask him some questions and post my thoughts on him." | ||
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On May 23 2015 18:44 Barakos wrote: @batsnacks: As I said, I am disappointed by the results you got out of the reactions to your iching... It seems like I put more thoughts into them, then you did. This at least raises an eyebrow and also makes you look suspicios, cause you generated discussion which you didn't really follow up / only followed up half-heartedly, which is very little, given the fact, that you premade this stuff, so one could expect, you have an actual plan for this and not just "townpoints, because they reacted". As an example of what you could expect: Compare TicTocks reaction to disformations reaction. TicTocks mindset / interpretation of your iching is all about solving the game, while disformations is about what it means to be town. Out of this, you can see, what this two had in minde while reading your text... Tictock was all about solving the game (which is town, since mafia doesn't need to solve anything, they now it all.). Disformation was all about how to be town, which is mafias main-concern all game long. This is also why I got an early townread on tictock... mostly based on this one reaction to your post. Also these two posts: post 1 post 2 are made within 40 minutes of each other and there is no visible thought-process between them... Please explain this vote-jump, cause i don't see any connection between sls 2 posts he made in between this posts and the switch in your stance toward him. (and you forgot to ##unvote...) You don't really look good in my eyes. I was going to let this read slide the first time but you being this wrong about me is dangerous for everyone. A few hours into the game, everything posted was bullshit. Literally everything that happened at the very start of this game is worthless and completely irrelevant now. Look at some of the stuff people were posting: On May 22 2015 07:00 sicklucker wrote: 1st On May 22 2015 07:11 disformation wrote: Typical first reaction to a sicklucker post: *facepalm*, then I think about it for a second and start to laugh madly. Well the fluff and stuff was already included in the op post and where the roles where explained. I think someone also posted where this fluff comes from? I don't know much about it, but the touhou games are bullethell games where the main characters are little girls with magical powers. On May 22 2015 07:31 Bill Murray wrote: ##vote:27ninjabunnies the problem is it's barely too much ninja if it were 26 bunnies you'd be cool All of these quotes are posted within 30 minutes to an hour of my weird Chinese poetry. Even though everyone in the thread is posting bs, and not following up on their bs, you have chosen to single out my bs out of all the other bs. How can you have a problem with the bs I posted at the start of the game and NOT have a problem with the bs other people were posting at the start of the game? Especially when my bs generated more discussion than anyone else's bs. That is why I said you were singling me out before and it makes you look really, really bad. | ||
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On May 23 2015 20:07 sicklucker wrote: Bats whats your acual scum read on me because I dont believe it. Sell me idk I was just drunk and messing around on my phone and was like "SL thinks he can ignore me eh, well let's see him ignore this." Then I thought about it some more and was like maybe that was a mistake. Then I thought about it even more and was like nah can't be that bad SL usually freaks out way more then he has when people scum read him for what he thinks are unreasonable reasons. | ||
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On May 23 2015 20:39 Barakos wrote: I'm picking on you, because you are the only one, who actually prepared something, said he could draw conclusions out of it and then has no followup. Plus the discussion you created had nothing to do with bringing the game forward but with interpreting poetry. The crap you quoted is obvious trolling / fun... your crap is premade and not followed up by you... I don't really care if you think me pointing this out makes me look bad... it makes you look way worse. This isn't a response to what I said, my crap wasn't premade I wrote it in 5 minutes, it was fun for me, and I did have a followup. You just didn't like my followup because it wasn't strong enough or whatever; and it was only 1 hour into the game I don't know how you can expect anyone to have strong reads that early. I have explained to you why you're wrong and why what you're trying to push on me can easily be scum motivated. | ||
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On May 25 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote: Im not gonna argue over a check I did or did not make. but why would I not check one of the new players I cant read with a scum lean on? I didn't want to argue I was just wondering. | ||
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On May 25 2015 08:18 sicklucker wrote: I think we lynch between bats/bm boxerfred? a bunnies lynch wouldnt make me happy but I wouldnt cry about it What did you think of bm's big post where he went all james joyce? | ||
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I think that's a good starting point because up until this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=34#670 He was pretty universally not-town read but then everyone I noticed changed their mind. When I've seen BM as mafia he usually does big plays and makes these huge stream of consciousness style posts. This game is lacking the big plays but he has been busy and that is a huge stream of consciousness style post so... | ||
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On May 25 2015 08:25 sicklucker wrote: ok wow thats a big post. So i cant be scum with bm now. Whos my partner? He had many similar posts in his last game as mafia in assassination. | ||
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His reads are not as strong as I would expect for someone who believes they are working some amazing mafia finding tool. And if he didn't believe the spreadsheet were an amazing mafia finding tool why would he spend so much time on it? | ||
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On May 25 2015 09:34 sicklucker wrote: i can confirm his tool has been a great town finding tool in me Did you even look at the spreadsheet? It is just a record of the order people posted in. If the spreadsheet is why he's town reading you then he is townreading you for bad reasons. | ||
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On May 25 2015 09:36 sicklucker wrote: like someone told me how to read batsnacks once when I asked. I mislynched him a tune so I asked. When hes scum he does not push people (like this game) when hes town he does so far this read has held up Last time I was mafia I faked my simple meta and town got destroyed. | ||
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On May 25 2015 09:40 sicklucker wrote: Bats your backtracking again. That was you who said only you would make a huge chart as mafia? You said no towns do that. Now your trying to put scum on him? I think this was a slip ##vote batsnacks I'm just pointing something out if I were trying to put scum on him I would be voting him. also SL your backtracking again. That was you who said there's no such thing as slips. You said no mafias do that. Now you're trying to put scum on me? | ||
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The iching thing took me 5 minutes and it was in the first hour of the game. Your thing is completely different. I said what I said because I don't want to see you coast on some spreadsheet that isn't going to help town. | ||
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On May 25 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote: BUT YOU SAID HES 100% TOWN. If I were to rate how strong of a townread you gave plot for day1 it was a 10/10 who cares if he gives shit reads most towns do. We know hes town theres no reason to put shit on him. This is standard mad scum play and retracting on a townread because you need a lynch I am trying to explain that he is wasting his time and needs to approach the game differently. Do you even disagree? | ||
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On May 25 2015 20:56 sicklucker wrote: idk why do you think I fake checked him of all people. SO I didnt have to read his filter untill the next day. Procrastination is my game Well you said you had a scum lean on him and I do too so I was curious. | ||
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On May 26 2015 19:51 Barakos wrote: why's that and why is your vote on bunnies? I can't remember you giving a reason for your vote. SL has picked it up a lot today and is cooperating. I voted SL yesterday with breshke to see if SL would try and cooperate, well now he's trying and cooperating. No reason he should be the lynch just my opinion. Yes he's spent most of today trying to prove he's town but he was under a lot of pressure, I can't scum read him for trying to convince people he's town when he's under pressure. It should be easy for 27nb to not be the lynch today all she has to do is try and cooperate, which she's doing neither. | ||
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On May 26 2015 20:36 disformation wrote: Currently at work. So semi-available. @Barakos: Will, look at that, but it wasn't intended. xD @batsnacks: I'm agreeing to your last two posts. But I want to stress that I want 27ninjabunnies to be super compelling at this point. So... in case we don't lynch sicklucker or 27ninjabunnies, who would your top scum reads be? Briefly skimmed your filter, but I couldn't find that. I gather that you are not a fan of Sulfurus? I could see any of 27nb, bm, sulfur, Barakos, or even me being the lynch today. SL earned another day imo. Tiktok, BF, plot, disfo are all safe for now I think, unless I missed something huge. It sort of depends on what, if anything, bunnies does. | ||
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On May 26 2015 21:46 sicklucker wrote: Bats did are interaction not make you go screw it and vote scott right after me? Because thats how I saw it I was probably voting scott no matter what but I did want to see if you were actually ignoring me so I did something irritating. | ||
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On May 26 2015 22:19 boxerfred wrote: I'm just saying that I don't get why you go that hard on "THERE IS NO SK". I think there is! Okay so, yes, TECHNICALLY there could be but it is unlikely. The reason I'm going hard on the THERE IS NO SK thing is that in most mafia games, someone would scumread you for this highly speculative role speculation. It makes you look like you are distancing yourself from the much more probable and relevant discussions happening in the thread, which is technically scummy. It's the same with speculating about masons. Town gains very little from speculating about roles it usually helps mafia more than town, so best practice is usually to not talk about it until someone claims. | ||
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On May 26 2015 23:40 Barakos wrote: @ bats, could you answer regarding my question about the sl case? For example the part about him hunting roles... you tell boxerfred, that rolespeculations are bad and help mafia, yet you seem to ignore it, when sl does it. If SL is mafia it is possible he did the green check to bait out a cop claim from an over eager newbie but I think it's more likely he was just trying desperately to get votes off him in any way possible (intimidation in this case). Same with trying to guess masons. Town SL tends to do nonsense mechanics related stuff too. I was going to post about it but I decided not to because he actually did give a read on barakos after I asked him, and I do think he's town and didnt want to help lynching him. | ||
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On May 26 2015 23:58 Barakos wrote: You mean this wonderfull read? After which he doesn't answer anymore? Or the other time, where you asked him about me and he answers "don't care, gotta not get lynched"? Because other than that i don't find any reads in sls filter that he gave in response to you asking. The other stuff he writes about me is him trying to make up, why I could be scum and voting me, only to unvote me, after I made my case vs him. Unless I miss something (point out please) he never gave you any kind of read about me. He made several posts about you I think he even voted you at one point after I asked a bunch of times. His filter is too chaotic to find quotes on my phone so you'll have to just take my word for it. I wouldn't just make this up. | ||
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On May 26 2015 09:37 sicklucker wrote: This is interesting. Barakos does not mention scott once day 1. Pretty strange for the lading mafia wagon. Then when day 2 starts he makes this post trying to discredit people who voted scott (classic mafia tactic) you dont say? ty for that qt info | ||
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On May 27 2015 03:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: Why are you voting BM then? What are you reasonings on me? I'm sheeping you in the hopes that doing so will increase the chances of bill responding to you. It's sort of a weird situation because you, bill and sulfur are my 3 scum reads but I think it's an okay way of doing things. | ||
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On May 27 2015 04:13 Tictock wrote: @ BS Other than being somewhat inactive. Why do you think Sul might be scum? Or is that more a PoE list there? 27nb BM Sul I can't think of anything huge off the top of my head, I'm sure I could find stuff if I dig but the main thing is that everyone else just looks -much- better. I think sulfur wasted his vote d1 too (could be wrong about that) and is wasting his vote now so there's that too. | ||
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On May 27 2015 06:06 disformation wrote: If you have a suggestion and a reason for who we should lynch instead, I am all ears. He thinks we should lynch SL today. | ||
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On May 27 2015 21:58 Breshke wrote: Noone read this but SL + Show Spoiler + When are you going to claim town RBer i saw you soft it before I read it. | ||
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On May 27 2015 23:06 Breshke wrote: dude stop drawing attention to it. This is easily the dumbest thing he has done Youre probably right about him being the rb though, | ||
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On May 28 2015 03:38 27ninjabunnies wrote: I reread, talking about roles in night is dumb. Mafia is gonna kill rolereads. So shut up. What's a good reason for lynching me tomorrow? Cause you were wrong about bill and deserve 100% of the blame. | ||
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On May 28 2015 07:38 disformation wrote: I can totally see bunnies being your N2 check... but why barakos? Because his read on me didn't make any logical sense. He scum read me for my early game nonsense, scum read me more for not getting anything useful out of my early game nonsense, and then town read tiktok for how tiktok responded to my early game nonsense. | ||
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On May 28 2015 07:41 disformation wrote: I am a bit weary because... masons... and town roleblocker... and cop? never! Claiming scum would be townier than saying the bolded btw There's probably a gf. | ||
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On May 28 2015 07:46 disformation wrote: cop is also the best role to claim for mafia in this situation, imo. On May 28 2015 06:59 batsnacks wrote: barakos is town I posted that before I knew there was a mason. There is zero chance I'm fake claiming. | ||
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On May 28 2015 07:54 disformation wrote: Ah, right. Also batsnacks two cop checks totally make sense, when I looked at his filter. Hells he even asks you and bunnies what you think about barakos on D2. Still not digging all these claims flying around... Also... wasn't a fan of Sulfurus basically all damn game long... have at ye: ##vote: Sulfurus Every role needs to claim today. We can get 6 confirmed townies out of 9 remaining players if every role claims (minus 2 accounting for one of my checks being wrong due to godfather). If everyone claims it is almost impossible for mafia to win. | ||
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On May 28 2015 08:14 sicklucker wrote: what if theirs two mafia roleblockers If that's the case then this game is easier than I thought. | ||
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I think the likelyhood of a town rb is small since they can block kp and we have cops and masons. plot and barakos (especially barakos) are almost certainly confirmed town. | ||
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On May 28 2015 08:22 disformation wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 28 2015 08:20 sicklucker wrote: I second the notion and think we have a really ridic setup at hand. With that in mind, I don't think the town rb (if there is one) should claim? cop + mason(s) + town rb that can block kp is massively overpowered vs any possible mafia roles. There is almost certainly not a town rb. | ||
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Yeah I wish you had been townie enough that I could have checked someone else e.g. sulfur. >.> | ||
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On May 28 2015 09:48 Sulfurus wrote: @Batsnacks How do you know Bunnies is not the GF? I don't. If you are town and have a case it is imperative to your survival/win condition that you post it. You shouldn't be asking me questions you should be answering questions. | ||
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On May 28 2015 19:29 Tictock wrote: Bats I said it was a slim possibility. You jumped on BM for no reason, and now offer up Sul as a target for no reason. I think I have valid reasons to be unsure of you right now. You just lied four times in 3 sentences. | ||
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Going from sheeping 27nb and me to scum reading us both AFTER I claim cop with green check on nb makes absolutely no logical sense. | ||
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On May 28 2015 20:04 Tictock wrote: Ok fine, it's wrong 100% that bats could be anything but cop This was like the least important thing I said in the last few pages and you all are honing in on it What about the huge post I made looking at Sul are we just going to ignore that? All you did was play by play his filter. It's like plot's chart in word form. | ||
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Like he calls BM mis lynch bait and then wastes his vote instead of helping the mislynch bait how does that make sense from a town pov? | ||
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On May 28 2015 20:08 Tictock wrote: What about the point I made about him calling BM mislynch bait? What about the question WHAT MAKES HIM SCUM? 1 vote could have swung the balance yesterday if sulfur cares so much about BM being mis lynched, why didn't he save him? | ||
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I think it's too dangerous for mafia to claim mason and risk getting cced if there is another mason in the game. Tiktok is probably the mason. I think the way plot claimed is too insane to be mafia. I don't think mafia completely loses their shit and makes a huge scene like that. So there must be a gf, meaning my checks are less useful. If bunnies is the gf then her partner probably voted Bill Murray to save her, which sulfur didn't. Which is curious. | ||
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On May 29 2015 03:02 sicklucker wrote: who does that leave. Altho sulf didnt vote to save her. He didnt vote against her he wasted his vote if i recall correctly. He simply could have been waiting to see if bunnies needed his vote to survive and if so use it Yeah. Also, in sulfur's "reasons" post he said he would have been happy if either bill or bunnies got lynched, so it's strange how his vote wound up on neither of them. So maybe you're right. Either way I think he's a better lynch than 27nb today. If all the claims are legit were left with barakos, SL, bunnies, disinfo, sulfur. I think at most 1 of barakos/27nb can be mafia because of the green checks. | ||
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On May 29 2015 03:13 disformation wrote: Did I miss something? boxerfred is still left, too. Yeah him too. | ||
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On May 29 2015 03:16 disformation wrote: So we just should look really hard at these people decide, on a list and lynch them. My mind is made up on sulfur for today it would take something extraordinary to get me to switch my vote. | ||
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On May 29 2015 03:53 sicklucker wrote: barakos is probably just town because he got roleblocked and kp went through. at least decreased I agree that the rb decreases his mafia equity. | ||
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On May 29 2015 04:54 Sulfurus wrote: @Batsnacks What I will say is that the way I would describe my own play is that it's very passive; in most cases I am more concerned with getting my reads heard then pushing any particular lynch especially since I have been happy with the direction town has been going in until recently. Is that scummy to you? Who are you lynching today sulfur? Make your reads heard. | ||
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On May 29 2015 05:51 plotspot wrote: Bats, cakepie said we should talk about the balance of the game after the game is finished. Please don't assume something is fair or not fair for this or that setup. Has nothing to do with fair or not fair a normal game with %40 of the town being blue is unusual. I don't think it's unreasonable to consider the unusual-ness of the number of blues in this game. | ||
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On May 29 2015 06:17 plotspot wrote: Are you sure you have checked all the possibilities (also from the side of mafia) and came to the conclusion that it is unusual? No one is lying we are simply unclaimed blue roles, that's all there is to it. We should avoid talking about, it can only benefit mafia considering CClaiming. I would tell you this as either alignment: 4 blues in this setup is unusual. Meaning it wouldn't be terrible for you to be at least slightly suspicious of my claim. I think tiktok is objectively the most likely to be telling the truth. If you don't understand why you can ask. We should definitely -not- avoid talking about it. Mafia is never going to cc anything for the rest of the game it would be suicide at this point. If you don't understand why you can ask. Here is every possibility:
Assume anyone lying is mafia. Nothing else is possible. | ||
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On May 29 2015 06:21 disformation wrote: Upon rereading it N2, I found it strange that your only interaction with bunnies was asking her for a read on barakos. I am intentionally less useful at night, especially when I'm the cop. It makes sense if you think about it. | ||
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On May 29 2015 06:32 disformation wrote: meant to say "upon rereading your D2 behaviour during N2". That was definitely not my only interaction with bunnies d2. I was the first person to vote bunnies. I started the wagon on her. I repeatedly asked her about bill. When she responded I followed up and asked for her comments on bill's big post that got everyone off his back. I asked her for reads on everyone. | ||
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On May 29 2015 06:41 plotspot wrote: Or maybe if you have time you can explain to me why mason-mason is so strong. In my inexperienced eye they are just two confirmed towns to each other, and this gives them some sort of potential to sheep and defend each other, but I cannot see how it's related to these night-activity roles. I feel like I compare bananas and apples. Mason-mason is strong because they can confirm each other town to the rest of the town. Unfortunately breshke died without saying who his partner is, but I think tiktok is telling the truth because if he is mafia he is risking being cced by breshke's partner (if breshke has a partner). 2 masons are almost as strong as 1 cop for town. Using this game as an example: I am the cop and I got two green checks before I will inevitably die tonight, so godfathers not considered I was able to get two checks. If two masons confirm each other town, that's very similar to two checks. | ||
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On May 29 2015 07:03 Tictock wrote: @ Bats If you even have the slightest doubt that I am not Bre's partner. I'm here, ask away. I still need to look through your filter and double check that I believe your Cop claim. Besides that one slim point I made, I really was willing to believe it earlier. It matches up with your play being somewhat lurky and you not always giving us great reasoning for stuff. I also think you doubting your own checks now given unknown setups means you are more willing to look at this game critically, which makes you obv town. Not that we have any way of verifying but it might be cool for you to paraphrase what you and breshke were talking about. | ||
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On May 29 2015 07:26 Tictock wrote: Bre was 100% wrong about one thing though... He said "Your not going to get much info tomorrow since everyone will pile 27nb" Today has actually been one of the most interesting days IMO I was going to ask why he didn't bother to claim especially if he thought he would be the kill but this might explain it. | ||
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On May 30 2015 01:37 Tictock wrote: @ Bats I think RB is invented and he's goon, catchup please So you think barakos and plot are both goons and they have created this elaborate ruse to trick us into believing that is a rb? What happens when no one claims rb tomorrow? | ||
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On May 30 2015 01:47 Tictock wrote: Hole crap do I have to keep spelling this out for everyone? Plots is Mafia Goon. Bara is GF He was willing to play so crazy today because between the check from bats and his invented RB stuff, which we only have word of through plots and Bara, would give Bara plenty of towncred to ride out much of the game. Especially when Town is so willing to sit around lynching people not talking much. These 2 people are the only ones saying I made some crazy defense of Sul here, when it's at best a null read. They are also the only 2 clinging to this RB role, since it's what their towncred relies on. Dude, listen. Tonight force plot to roleblock you. If he doesn't obey, lynch him. Problem solved. | ||
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On May 30 2015 02:08 Tictock wrote: Honestly town can do whatever it wants. I'm not sheeping this weak as hell case on Sul. I'm more convinced 27nb just doesn't care at this point. I could be way out in WIFOM land but at least I'm trying. So push SL or disinfo or barakos... Here's a good place to start: SL likes to drop off in activity once he's safe as mafia. | ||
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On May 30 2015 04:11 plotspot wrote: batsnacks, if you think bunnies and sulfurus are the mafia pair, then lynching Sulfurus is the mechanically sounder play, because you actually copchecked bunnies. My opinion is that bunnies is just a lazy townie. sulfur is scummier but he's new and this could just be how he plays. I have played a bunch of games with bunnies and this is not how she usually plays town. | ||
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On May 30 2015 04:32 plotspot wrote: Ok I understand so is Sulfurus scummyness < Bunnies's scummyness + 80% being confirmed town? It's 80% bats. It's like I I give you 10 people (5 scum, 5 townies), and you always read 8 out of 10 correct. If you can say yes, your vote should stay on Bunnies if not you should switch to Sulfurus. Are you SURE about the math on that? LOL | ||
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On May 23 2015 00:59 scott31337 wrote: I like Rels the most so far, his list post has a lot of good thoughts and questions. Not lynching today. Tictock seems like his town game so far - Not a D1 lynch I don't like BM's post here - He's trying to incite Sulfurus here using emotion - Calling him a noob, says he doesn't know what he is doing, etc because he used his "last name"? Sulfurus has not replied to this yet, though. Often this is a mafia trait, and doing it to a "noob" so quickly is pretty bad. Sulf hasn't done much in the game either, and seems tunneled on BM. Batsnacks could go either way, he needs to set up some Battraps(tm) though, that'd be great. BM would be at the top of my lynch list at the moment though - but we have plenty of time Anyone have any questions for me? Look at how Scott is defending sulfur here from the big bad BM. I feel like newbie mafia Scott would gravitate toward defending townies over defending his scum mates. | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:02 disformation wrote: Wouldn't defending teammates too much be a common scum mistake? The newbie mafia mindset feels like it would be: "BM is bullying this townie. I will put scum on BM since bullying townies is scummy!" | ||
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SL was the first name Scott posted. SL tried harder d2 than sulfur and bunnies have the whole game combined. | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:30 sicklucker wrote: wouldnt it be epic if we were right and found mafia tho? Things with epic potential usually fail. | ||
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Is it SL? Disfo? | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote: I feel like boxerfred has a great chance to flip mafia This is his first game who the fuck plays like this their first game ever AND as mafia ? | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:59 27ninjabunnies wrote: Im not defendng because i have to go to work, and im kinda worn out by this game. If you lynch me, you lynch me, but you are lynching a green check, which is dumb. I've repeatedly said to lynch outside of greens and look into other people outside of blues. but nooooooooooooo. Lynch the greencheck dumb If you get lynched when you're green checked you should uninstall mafia. | ||
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Really wanted to unvote bunnies but her just dropping by to remind town they're dumb sealed it. | ||
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BAT TRAPS LOL Shenanies onto sulfur ##unvote ##vote sulfurus | ||
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On May 30 2015 06:50 27ninjabunnies wrote: Am i not allowed? I just came for EOD. You're at work and table 17 needs their wellingtons right now | ||
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Played the best out of anyone, the setup was stacked against him, and it was his first game. | ||
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On June 04 2015 07:11 Damdred wrote: So I read most of this game and I have to say i'm really impressed with a lot of the newbie plays this game. It was a really good game to read I think. Box realy really good play I can't wait to see you in a normal game. Not to bad yourself tick, gotta work on the tunnel a little bit but it will come in time. Is town favored but it was still a good game. Well played all Are you impressed with me damdred? <3 xoxoxo | ||
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