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We'll not have to wait till next lynch... I am pretty sure, boxerfred will enter the thread, not cc and your whole "sulfurus, tictock"-theory will come crushing down.
even if he counterclaims, all my money is on bf being the fakeclaim... the reason for this just being his excitement of finally finding a bluerole last night, when he thought it breshke softclaimed cop. Tictock being breshkes masonpartner is the far more believable option.
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On May 28 2015 23:00 Barakos wrote: We'll not have to wait till next lynch... I am pretty sure, boxerfred will enter the thread, not cc and your whole "sulfurus, tictock"-theory will come crushing down.
even if he counterclaims, all my money is on bf being the fakeclaim... the reason for this just being his excitement of finally finding a bluerole last night, when he thought it breshke softclaimed cop. Tictock being breshkes masonpartner is the far more believable option.
this. Though I feel like something is missing. This stuff is not making a lot of sense.
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EBWOP: This stuff = all the roles and claims flying around.
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I think I got a good enough answer out of Plots to poke holes in his claim to be Town RB.
I'm a little biased here though, so I encourage Town to see if they think plots claim holds.
I believe he is Mafia RB trying to fakeclaim Town RB.
RB,RB, Goon vs Cop & Masons sounds fairly balanced, no?
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If that is true it would mean BF is likely the last scum, since plots is so sure he will CC me.
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Actually, never mind if plots is scum we should discount pretty much everything he's said
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On May 28 2015 22:58 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2015 22:48 plotspot wrote:On May 28 2015 22:37 Tictock wrote: I notice SL and Dis are expecting me to claim mason. Honestly though, I feel like if I were a role wouldn't I be in the best position to not claim? Like most people are reading me as town anyway, if I were to claim a role it wouldn't really narrow things down at the moment.
I would have held to this thinking as well, but once the role speculation started to get too out of hand I realized it was in fact doing town more harm than good. And thanks to a thing known as "a flip" Bre is in fact the only confirmed blue role at this moment in the game. It's up to town to decide if the people claiming roles have been acting in line with that role, and to sniff out any fake claims that have inconsistencies. I think he still missed my question. PLOTSPOT!!What was your reasoning RBing him in the first place? The "him" = Barakos I couldn't read him that well. While I said he was town earlier, I had my doubts internally and not published. I wonder why batsnacks thought the same? That is basically the only mention of barakos in your filter... Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 07:47 plotspot wrote:Barakos: feels genuine. I believe what he says. He has an alerting but inoffensive way of expressing himself and most (if not all) his posts I can say: “hmm yeah I see the meaning behind it”. A possibly strange point which reinforce my town read on him is that he fantasizes about how scum QT looks like here. For me it’s hard to imagine scum would do that, I mean just for the thought of it at all. But here we have a townie imagining how things went in the scum QT and scott’s case is really a strange one, that leaves me wondering whether he betrayed his mates or whether they knew he had some time issues and just deal with it somehow. Why the fuck would you roleblock a null/town read over a scum read? I'm sorry I confused you disformation. Yes I town read him there, but I observed something about him that raised my suspicion, but since I am Town RB I may not always post what I find suspicious next just to RB it. It may give away my that I'm the RB. You see I was terrified that Mafia would discover me on the account of this post about Rels here right after she died:
On May 25 2015 07:10 plotspot wrote: How do you know Rels wasn't Vig shot? I was about to make a case on scumreading him hard for the following points I prepared: Rels: referring too much to others opinion, reading thread very carefully, the way RELS sets up lynch is also very comfortable (like lynch inactives), giving orders to others, thanks my post but posts no further thoughts, in comparison to Disinformation who displays overall anxiety in his reads and thoughts, Rels looks like he can handle any sudden change, there is nothing clouding his mind, others apparently have to do more than Rels, you bet if I was Vig I would have shot her.
If for some reason Mafia thought:"who the fuck would RB this guy? Like who, wait a minute: Maybe he blocked himself to establish a story? That would look so bad. Why would he waste a block on himself? Hey maybe he blocked Rels. Yeah that's it he scumread her after she died remember? He even said he would have shot her if he was Vig. So if this guy is RB he would definitely have blocked her. Now that she is dead, no one can tell if he lied or not, but he establishes himself as town. Hehe; this guy is so dead"
Ok I'm sorry for all the mucus earlier. I apologize for my bad behavior. I shouldn't have done this. It was just I work for it all night and posted what I thought was the solution for us at 4:00 am (4hours after D3). You guys don't believe I am the RB and blocked Barakos? I can even semi-prove it, but I'd rather not as it gives away some info for possible future mafia. Please allow me some secrecy in that regard.
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On May 28 2015 23:18 Tictock wrote: Actually, never mind if plots is scum we should discount pretty much everything he's said
Depends if BF cc's you or not.
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On May 28 2015 23:00 Barakos wrote: We'll not have to wait till next lynch... I am pretty sure, boxerfred will enter the thread, not cc and your whole "sulfurus, tictock"-theory will come crushing down.
even if he counterclaims, all my money is on bf being the fakeclaim... the reason for this just being his excitement of finally finding a bluerole last night, when he thought it breshke softclaimed cop. Tictock being breshkes masonpartner is the far more believable option.
Okay, I see it now. That might be the case. Maybe I was just tunneling to hard on the Sulfurus tictock theory and saw it as perfect. We wait what boxerfred says, I can agree to it. I'm definitely the Town RB.
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But then who would his scum partner when Tictock is mason? Is boxerfreds scum partner Sulfurus? I kinda make it clear that I can see Sulfurus as scum without the association to Tictock. What do you guys think of the mislip I talk about?
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On May 28 2015 23:24 plotspot wrote: But then who would his scum partner when Tictock is mason? Is boxerfreds scum partner Sulfurus? I kinda make it clear that I can see Sulfurus as scum without the association to Tictock. What do you guys think of the mislip I talk about?
Well, Sulfurus and boxerfred being mafia would align with my huge wall post. Opposing to ticktoc I read you willing to die for the lynch on Sulfurus as rather towny. The misslip is a good point actually enough. *Sigh*
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Okay let's assume this: Tictock Mason plotspot RB disformation VT 27ninjabunnies VT sicklucker VT batsnacks Cop Barakos VT
--- wouldn't that leave: Sulfurus and boxerfred left as Mafia?
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So wwe have
Cop Town RB MAson Mason
IT could be possible to have these many roles in a setup.
But plots claim throws me off. We asked MULTIPLE time for a RB claim, and it took him that long of talking when he could have outed earlier? Also, claiming he himself was roleblocked just seems like mafia play rather than a town play there.
Could we very well have 2 mafia roleblockers?
I don't know why yall are on me. Im town.
The reason why I voted on dis was the lack of actual townieness to me day 1 and the connection with BF (who is still alive btw)
You may not like my reasoning, but that's it.
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On May 28 2015 23:33 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2015 23:24 plotspot wrote: But then who would his scum partner when Tictock is mason? Is boxerfreds scum partner Sulfurus? I kinda make it clear that I can see Sulfurus as scum without the association to Tictock. What do you guys think of the mislip I talk about? Well, Sulfurus and boxerfred being mafia would align with my huge wall post. Opposing to ticktoc I read you willing to die for the lynch on Sulfurus as rather towny. The misslip is a good point actually enough. *Sigh* I'm not making stuff up guys. I admit in shame that I tunneled Tictock hard, and that it is totally possible to swap him with boxerfred now, which I slowly see as the more reasonable choice, because if boxerfred was Mason and lurking why the hell did he not just finish it with one blow, by CCing. But my points on Sulfurus stays. Hence I'd vote for Sulfurus and think we will mostly like get a red flip here
##VOTE:SULFURUS
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Okay, just for verification: plotspot: you did only claim to be roleblocked in N1 to get the mafia to think you are not the rb, right?
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##unvote
forgot about this.
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Okay there has been some talk about this. I want to summarize my points.
I am Town RB. I roleblocked Rels on N1. Since she died I made that ploy up in order to protect myself as my role will get important in the late game. I wrote about the dangers involved with this ploy when mafia detected it. I RBed Barakos on N2. Barakos verified that he got RBed.
So would you risk misslynching a non-CC'ed Town RB, if he can help protect your Cop in N3, when we hammer a mafia today? When I survive we can openly discuss who to RB and with the help of the Cop get another town check in, if our guess of mafia is right that night.
Please think about this. I know I kinda lost your trust because I was tunneled so hard before and explode on some of you, for which I'd really like to apologizee again.
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On May 29 2015 00:18 disformation wrote: Okay, just for verification: plotspot: you did only claim to be roleblocked in N1 to get the mafia to think you are not the rb, right?
Yes exactly, I know it was kinda unfair to other townies, but If I survive with this ploy, we win. And it looks damn good so far.
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Also it's impossible for a mafia to think of such a ploy. He would risk his fucking life making up being RB, when he didn't even know there was one. Guess what would happen to mafia if he makes up such a ploy, saying he was RB N1? I would crush him. It's too dangerous, no mafia will ever do that. I on the other hand could because only I knew I targeted Rels and "luckily" she died for that ploy to work. Imagine if I was to RB someone and he survives that Night. It would make this ploy impossible, it would have led to a fucking mess which mafia will have ultimately used to force me out.
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I'm kinda sad I have to point this out like this to protect myself, it will eliminate such a play in the future I guess. Mafia will always check this option with RB now. And as I detailed it out, in my case it was extremely possible for mafia to find out about this, because I scumread Rels and also told the whole thread about it. Such a ploy would even be less risky if I didn't scumread a dead person, which I only realized later.
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