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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 28 2015 11:30 GMT
#1501
@ Bats that is a question for Sul, though he did respond to you already at the top of pg 75

It's not a good reason, but it's likely
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 28 2015 11:30 GMT
#1502
Sul still needs to weigh in in terms of making a case though... Hence why I said I'm still unsure of him
I can take that responsibility.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 11:31 GMT
#1503
Town rb is as strong as cop if they can block kp. You can save 1 town and confirm 1 mafia in the same night that's huge. I am betting on 2 mafia rb and 1 goon.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 28 2015 11:34 GMT
#1504
no batsnacks in the beginning you as RB obviously have only a 1/3 chance of blocking the night mafia NK. It's not powerful at all. Even now you only have a 1/2 chance of blocking a Mafia NK. Just read the setup, cakepie even posted about this in this thread because of the confusion.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 28 2015 11:39 GMT
#1505
On May 28 2015 09:48 Sulfurus wrote:
@Batsnacks How do you know Bunnies is not the GF?


And this quote practically does 3 things:
establish Barakos as town
establish Sulfurus as mafia
practically confirms the setup I talk about.

You guys want to think about it?

batsnacks you have no idea how great of a help you were to me solving the game; like even your misunderstandings were such a great help.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 28 2015 11:41 GMT
#1506
and obviously establishes bunny as a town too.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 28 2015 11:42 GMT
#1507
Yo. plotspot.
On May 28 2015 12:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
EBWOP: Why ARE YOU no lynching?


I am getting a bit annoyed right now. This game is basically solvable using some logic, but we are having a bunch of (presumably) town trying to make it as hard as possible to the very last minute.
I kinda want to go in a corner and cry for a bit.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 28 2015 11:43 GMT
#1508
See this setup stuff is confusing me a decent bit as well.

We really only know for sure that there is Cop and Masons for Town, and that both plots and Bara have said they were RB'd

Everything else is pure speculation right? Granted there can be good logic from a balancing perspective, but is it reliable?
I can take that responsibility.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 28 2015 11:46 GMT
#1509
On May 28 2015 13:43 Tictock wrote:
Ok I skimmed from EoN till now, there's a lot to think about and some stuff I want to look into.

First things first, farewell to Breshke one of our town masons.

2nd off, I really don't think town RB should claim, maybe I'm wrong here but wouldn't Town RB be the strongest role in a cop, mason, RB town setup? Town RB claiming will make them a sure fire target tonight, seems to me town RB will want to hold off claiming as long as possible to avoid being NK'd and allowing potential blocks of NKs.

Masons seem like a weakish role. I don't see much reason why the remaining mason shouldn't claim as it will help confirm one more town.

I notice SL and Dis are expecting me to claim mason. Honestly though, I feel like if I were a role wouldn't I be in the best position to not claim? Like most people are reading me as town anyway, if I were to claim a role it wouldn't really narrow things down at the moment.

Also, why the hell is plots trying to No Lynch?


yes you claim. esp as a town rber because it makes bats claim look like dog shit and probably mafia. Like bats can do this as mafia and a 2 mason + town rb + cop setup is 1 too many power role so ones lying
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 28 2015 11:47 GMT
#1510
there was a 1/11 chance in N1 and a 1/9 chance in N2 to block kp.
but still cop + rb + mason-pair seems a bit stacked.

what cakepie did was answer my question about rb blocking kp, thats all and gives nothing away about the setup.

@bats: Do you think cop / rb / lone mason could be a possible town-setup? I know lone masons have happened here before (although probably not in newbie-games). I kinda don't see boxerfred being breshkes mason-buddy, given how excited he was last night about what he thought was a copclaim by breshke at that time. Everybody else was in the thread and did not claim, unless I missed something.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 28 2015 11:48 GMT
#1511
On May 28 2015 20:43 Tictock wrote:
See this setup stuff is confusing me a decent bit as well.

We really only know for sure that there is Cop and Masons for Town, and that both plots and Bara have said they were RB'd

Everything else is pure speculation right? Granted there can be good logic from a balancing perspective, but is it reliable?


If there was a town rb he would have claimed by now. Why?
cop
greencheck 1
greencheck 2
mason 1
mason 2
town rb

There are 9 people still alive.

We are down to 3 people. With a super high chance that 2 of them are mafia. And mafia has to decide if they want to shoot the cop or the rb first. So town would have won at this point.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 28 2015 11:50 GMT
#1512
it's a joke-vote dammit. it doesn't matter whether we hammer sulfurus with 3,4,5,6,7 or even 8 votes if Tictock wants to bus . I freakin posted the solution here:
1) scott31337 Mafia RB
2) Tictock Mafia Goon
3) Rels VT
4) plotspot VT
5) boxerfred Mason
6) disformation VT
7) Barakos VT
8) Sulfurus Mafia Godfather
9) 27ninjabunnies VT
10) Bill Murray VT
11) Breshke Mason
12) sicklucker RB
13) batsnacks Cop

Why is everyone only focusing on the this freaking joke vote. Don't get freaking absorbed in petty details and try to see the grand picture. Read this list, take couple of page you want and see whether it applies or not? Shall we? (ok I admit I'm not 100% sure about the roles but the alignments are obvious as day. Even the individual roles would fit if you read a bit harder (for example: boxerfred mislip on his coaching thread, he must have some happy time talking to Breshke, that's why he acts so carefree and confident, he always has someone to back him up, is it understandable?)
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 28 2015 11:53 GMT
#1513
@ Plots

Do you have actual reasons to be scumming me yet? Or are you still relying on this OMGUS thing?
I can take that responsibility.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 28 2015 11:54 GMT
#1514
SL plot thinks you're the town rb. Please tell him you're not he won't listen to me.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 28 2015 11:55 GMT
#1515
Actually why aren't we lynching plots for his nonsense over Sul?

Sul has at least been consistently giving reasoning in his posts, not shitting up the thread
I can take that responsibility.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 28 2015 11:56 GMT
#1516
Like this is so easy, everybody who is town on this list just confirms to me in this thread, and it's done. Why do you keep arguing with Tictock over petty inconsistencies, which just happens if you are townie and clueless. I thought this game was about seeing the grand picture if you are already 76 pages into the game.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 28 2015 11:56 GMT
#1517
Maybe my whole association thing was backwards... maybe plots has been hoping to pocket SL with those wierd interaction and constant weak townreads

Also notice him looking for SL's approval here?

On May 28 2015 11:14 plotspot wrote:
My opinion, right SL?^^
+ Show Spoiler +
1) scott31337 Mafia RB
2) Tictock Mafia Goon
3) Rels VT
4) plotspot VT
5) boxerfred Mason
6) disformation VT
7) Barakos VT
8) Sulfurus Mafia Godfather
9) 27ninjabunnies VT
10) Bill Murray VT
11) Breshke Mason
12) sicklucker RB
13) batsnacks Cop


##VOTE: NO LYNCH

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 28 2015 11:58 GMT
#1518
Yea I've been reasonable enough with this guy.

##Unvote
##Vote: plotspot
I can take that responsibility.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 28 2015 11:58 GMT
#1519
Bats like how does SL confirm to you he is not town RB? He should just confirm, it's no risk I promise.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 28 2015 11:59 GMT
#1520
On May 28 2015 20:54 batsnacks wrote:
SL plot thinks you're the town rb. Please tell him you're not he won't listen to me.


im not splots it was jokes
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