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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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May 08 2015 20:45 GMT
#143
May I /obs?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 22:37 GMT
#145
On May 09 2015 06:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Won't be starting this tonight, I have some unexpected travel. Expect things to start tomorrow night though.

Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 05:45 Stutters695 wrote:
May I /obs?


Sure. You can also /in if you'd like.

I would love to, this sounds awesome, but I'm currently in two games and certainly couldn't handle 3
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 23:32 GMT
#155
On May 09 2015 08:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 07:37 Stutters695 wrote:
I would love to, this sounds awesome, but I'm currently in two games and certainly couldn't handle 3


Not anymore




/in
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 10 2015 14:09 GMT
#246
Cool, this started. I don't think I've ever done a n0, anything special about it?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 11 2015 16:33 GMT
#581
Alright, now that mother's day is over, catching up.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 11 2015 17:43 GMT
#613
So about the whole nuke thing. I'm with marv in that it was a terrible time to nuke.

However, I don't like Trfel disappearing after his giant post nor I like how quickly BH shot it down. For trying to bring his A game, it's incredibly underwhelming and his justification doesn't impress me.

That said BM definitely comes out looking the worst of the 3.

Phone posting so it might be sporadic.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 11 2015 18:23 GMT
#643
I would totally get behind a Vivax lynch. His last post feels so forced. The JAT part I can see, I don't remember Vivax being one for sheeping but using what essentially amounted as a joke post for his reason for the BH read doesn't sit well with me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 11 2015 18:28 GMT
#652
It almost makes me think at least one was a fake. I'd rather not lose Marv, but popping off two nukes d1 seems a bit ridiculous for someone town to do, like the first one was to bait out an anti-nuke so he could kill marv.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 11 2015 18:37 GMT
#662
It's tough. We can probably assume he's out of nukes for now (at least until d2), so lynching him would stop further ones from going off. However scum BM doesn't shoot scum Marv there, so if we can't stop it and marv flips scum, we get a lot of info without killing him unnecessarily.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 11 2015 18:47 GMT
#679
On May 12 2015 03:38 TalkingDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 01:59 Bill Murray wrote:
i cant be the leading votegetter when I fire a nuke or it doesnt work

If the nuke lands, then we definitely should just lynch BM.

He wasn't the leading votegetter, TD was.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 12 2015 16:41 GMT
#1164
##give 10 posts to Rsoultin

Finishing catching up, what the fuck was that pardon?

Sorry about my absence.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 12 2015 17:36 GMT
#1196
##give Palmar 5 posts

While I disagree with the shot, I can see where he's coming from. That shot is substantially better on someone like myself though over the most talked about person d1. His flip would actually reveal a lot.

Vivax needs to die for the reasons people previously mentioned.

I'm not seeing Xat as that scummy other than the time spent afk. I might just be bad, but it's felt like his posting quality has picked up and I can agree with his reasoning somewhat. If he doesn't put out more, I'd get behind it, but not d1.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 12 2015 23:35 GMT
#1421
Well I've read the BH case. I could see it but it doesn't feel as sure as Vivax at all to me. Kind of reminds me of when we mislynched him in Les Mis. Iirc he couldn't be assed there to defend himself, but he started contributing towards the future even though he was dead. I kind of get that vibe here and vivax doesn't give a shit. He's easily the better lynch imo.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 13 2015 00:38 GMT
#1509
##give 10 posts Blazinghand

I plan on getting some stuff out tomorrow, don't waste those plz BH.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 13 2015 21:39 GMT
#1644
33/60

On May 14 2015 05:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Saving Trfel
So people seem to have confusion or be scum reading me both for saving Trfel, and for like, questioning him first. In retrospect, if I was bringing my A game, probably the right move would be to reveal that I *could* save Trfel, then question him a bit, THEN save him. This would require a lot of effort and be the right move. What I did was basically be like “truffle are you town” and he was like “yarp” and I was like “ok i save u” and that was all there was to it. I don’t think having a scum read on BM or a town read on him is really relevant or necessary for this. Also, I’m not saying that mods sent me the wrong PM, but it’s entirely POSSIBLE they sent me the wrong PM and I thought I had infinite anti-nukes, so why not? Truffle wasn’t a good nuke target, and more likely to flip town then scum, so I Stopped the nuke. Didn’t think it was a big deal.


Wat? In what world has infinite anti-nukes ever been a thing (serious question)? If it were me, I would immediately think that is wrong, but I haven't played in a lot of games with nukes.

Additionally, do you actually have a read on anyone? With the anti-nukes, it felt like you were maybe playing like in Les Mis. That feeling is fading fast though. I haven't seen anything like I'd expect out of you and its pretty disappointing.


Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 13 2015 22:09 GMT
#1652
34/60

@HtS

I just re-read it. Actually yeah, I do kind of like his posting (KelsierSC especially), but I just can't reconcile that thing about the anti-nukes. That just feels so goddamn wrong. Like how do just assume that?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 13 2015 22:13 GMT
#1653
35

I'm starting to think it, but I can't pull the trigger this early. Once some people respond to what BH has said more, I'll get a better feel for it.

I thought the deadline was at 10pm EST and I was watching the Bolts game. I'm actually really surprised so few people picked up on me not voting.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 13 2015 22:23 GMT
#1655
I'm just bad bro.

I get better when there is less to focus on fwiw.

Anyway, I got that you think Palmar is not town, but would he be your primary lynch tomorrow?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 13 2015 22:53 GMT
#1662
On May 14 2015 07:30 sandroba wrote:
Maybe I've changed my mind who knows. I'll keep my future lynches to myself for now.

Plz
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 13 2015 23:06 GMT
#1667
On May 14 2015 07:58 sandroba wrote:
If you are asking me if you should shoot palmar, then idk, I would prob shoot xatalos or BH.

Nah, if I had a vig, I'd wait and then pop it off way later and probably hit a medic or something lol.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 13 2015 23:07 GMT
#1669
It was just bugging me how little you seemed to be thinking about scum after that lynch.

Probs just me being paranoid.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 14 2015 00:03 GMT
#1683
So, if it wasn't obvious it is now. I shot palmar.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 14 2015 00:20 GMT
#1695
So in your last N1 post HtS, you had me as a scum lean despite commenting about how much easier I am to read d2. What changed?

You also omitted Palmar from your list.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 14 2015 00:46 GMT
#1707
4/60

On May 14 2015 09:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 09:20 Stutters695 wrote:
So in your last N1 post HtS, you had me as a scum lean despite commenting about how much easier I am to read d2. What changed?

You also omitted Palmar from your list.


4/60

Was pretty sure I mentioned it when I repsonded to sandroba -

If I had to scumread you for D1 it was your commenting on the pardon (saying it was shitty or whatever) and not doing anything about it and your N1 posting specially the one where you said "BH's posting was pretty disappointing",

I omitted a lot of people in that legacy post as I was squeezing it in prior to EoN. Palmar I was holding off on and he was under review, unfortunately I had never gotten to him.

Don't respond to this until you have something else to post anyway so you aren't wasting posts.

"If I had to scum stutters..." That doesn't imply that you were scumming me. If it was a full list and I saw the reasoning behind others I could understand it more, but leaving people off (esp a flipped scum) and that change stands out to me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 14 2015 16:10 GMT
#1916
On May 15 2015 01:02 KelsierSC wrote:
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On May 15 2015 01:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 15 2015 00:59 KelsierSC wrote:
VE did sandro give any indication what role he was/is in the QT?


Sandro was never in the QT. Marv added him the same night mafia targeted him.


ah ok.

I guess JAt's shot can't be real due to the roles being that damdred was a day vig and stutters is our night vigi.



Just skimmed this, but there is nothing that specifies that day-vigs are only town is there?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 14 2015 18:38 GMT
#2036
@HtS can you show me some examples? I don't want to filter dive for that and that's such a broad tell that is so context dependent it's hard to put faith in that for me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 14 2015 18:40 GMT
#2037
Ebwop or some examples of you using this read before.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 01:10 GMT
#2146
Catching up. Is TD really calling me a scum possibility? Lol
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 02:46 GMT
#2154
On May 15 2015 10:51 TalkingDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 10:10 Stutters695 wrote:
Catching up. Is TD really calling me a scum possibility? Lol

No. The way for you to be mafia is that sandroba shot Palmer, then you claimed the shot afterwards. I said there's a chance of you being 3P and that's why I don't think you should be fully off the table considering you're amazing play. Learn to read.

This is so bad it's unreal.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 02:57 GMT
#2156
On May 15 2015 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 11:38 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 15 2015 11:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 15 2015 11:28 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 15 2015 10:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 15 2015 10:23 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 15 2015 09:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because recruiters are super fucking good. And your recruiting method is different from marvs in a way that's better for scum. Also marv didn't die n1

Right so the argument that you're making is because of the mechanics of my role I'm scum. By that same token, the mechanics of all of the KP roles make them scum as well.

Why don't you just admit that you're doing the exact same thing you've done all game? You know, find an excuse to push somebody regardless of actually thinking about their play whatsoever. Really, you're just calling people scum based on really fucktarded reasons just so that you can look like you have, you know, actual reads. You know, just ignore how I've used the role, who I've recruited, why I've recruited them, anything that I've discussed with them, anything that they've had to say about me. Basically like anything actually important to the game.

Last I remember Oats, you didn't believe in the too dumb to be scum heuristic. I guess it's because you've proved that you can be both both a idiot and mafia at the same time. We'll just go ahead and lynch you now. Thanks for showing your true colors though

I dont care what you did in your mason chat. And im not gonna lynch you today. You just arent town.


Please claim mafia harder.

You keep doing this shit where you incite people and never actually engage in meaningful conversation.


You literally said:
1. I don't care what you did in your mason chat.
2. You're not going to lynch me today
3. I'm not town
What is there to interact with there? You're flat out ignoring some reasons to in the least consider me town; that's not even considering the QT's in conjunction with my filter. You're flat out saying that I'm a non-town entity. You're flat out saying you don't want to lynch me today. Under what circumstances could any of that make possible make a lick of sense?

There's literally nothing else to say about that.

No, im saying that you arent town, not that you arent town.

Wat? Anyway, I'm considering myself confirmed town since it's fucking obvious so if anyone needs posts, hit me up.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 03:40 GMT
#2158
On May 15 2015 12:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 11:57 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 15 2015 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 15 2015 11:38 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 15 2015 11:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 15 2015 11:28 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 15 2015 10:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 15 2015 10:23 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 15 2015 09:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because recruiters are super fucking good. And your recruiting method is different from marvs in a way that's better for scum. Also marv didn't die n1

Right so the argument that you're making is because of the mechanics of my role I'm scum. By that same token, the mechanics of all of the KP roles make them scum as well.

Why don't you just admit that you're doing the exact same thing you've done all game? You know, find an excuse to push somebody regardless of actually thinking about their play whatsoever. Really, you're just calling people scum based on really fucktarded reasons just so that you can look like you have, you know, actual reads. You know, just ignore how I've used the role, who I've recruited, why I've recruited them, anything that I've discussed with them, anything that they've had to say about me. Basically like anything actually important to the game.

Last I remember Oats, you didn't believe in the too dumb to be scum heuristic. I guess it's because you've proved that you can be both both a idiot and mafia at the same time. We'll just go ahead and lynch you now. Thanks for showing your true colors though

I dont care what you did in your mason chat. And im not gonna lynch you today. You just arent town.


Please claim mafia harder.

You keep doing this shit where you incite people and never actually engage in meaningful conversation.


You literally said:
1. I don't care what you did in your mason chat.
2. You're not going to lynch me today
3. I'm not town
What is there to interact with there? You're flat out ignoring some reasons to in the least consider me town; that's not even considering the QT's in conjunction with my filter. You're flat out saying that I'm a non-town entity. You're flat out saying you don't want to lynch me today. Under what circumstances could any of that make possible make a lick of sense?

There's literally nothing else to say about that.

No, im saying that you arent town, not that you arent town.

Wat? Anyway, I'm considering myself confirmed town since it's fucking obvious so if anyone needs posts, hit me up.

He is not town. Not he is not town.



I'm starting to agree.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 03:41 GMT
#2159
However, your sentence still don't make much sense.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 04:23 GMT
#2162
On May 15 2015 12:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
If I put confirmed in front of the green one does that make sense?

Lol, I'm an idiot. I didn't even realize that was green.

Anyway, drunk Stutters would totally lynch TD. The fact that he throws out 3p without any the obvious questions to actually determine it. It's like he just wants to shit on me being basically confirmed town.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 18:49 GMT
#2236
On May 16 2015 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Stutters and Yamato, can you please tell us the name of your roles?
Like, your Roman names.

I just got back to read. Why do you need this?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 19:53 GMT
#2239
On May 16 2015 04:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 03:49 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 16 2015 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Stutters and Yamato, can you please tell us the name of your roles?
Like, your Roman names.

I just got back to read. Why do you need this?


Because WIFOM reasons.

Since nobody will listen to reason, I want to be free like a bird and wifom

I don't like that reasoning but w/e, I doubt the assassin would need the name to kill me if he really wanted. I'm Brutus.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 20:04 GMT
#2243
Anyway, I'm not 100% on Onegu. I would lynch him off of his filter, but the almost complete lack of resistance bothers me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 20:59 GMT
#2251
On May 16 2015 05:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 04:53 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 16 2015 04:16 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 16 2015 03:49 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 16 2015 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Stutters and Yamato, can you please tell us the name of your roles?
Like, your Roman names.

I just got back to read. Why do you need this?


Because WIFOM reasons.

Since nobody will listen to reason, I want to be free like a bird and wifom

I don't like that reasoning but w/e, I doubt the assassin would need the name to kill me if he really wanted. I'm Brutus.


So, you're the traitor

Many logic, such impresses
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 21:01 GMT
#2252
Did we really kill that many mafia that they're getting this desperate? Wtf.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 21:23 GMT
#2256
Anyway, I'll humor your ridiculous thought for a second. I had missed the d1 vote and really hadn't done shit so I decided to shoot n1 rather than get myself involved in the d2 pool and potentially waste a day. I'd rather die at night than waste a lynch. Originally I wanted to shoot BH/Trfel to try and shed some light on the nuke fiasco but when I was reading through I saw VE/Droba/Marv all had Palmar as scummy. Reading his filter I was eh about it, but I respect their reads and Droba's post that implied Palmar might not be scum, but 3p sealed the deal since either way, as long as I don't hit town I live. Thus it seemed like a safe shot and even if I missed would generate info.


Anyway, last post on that, I'm done with that topic. If you can't see how obviously town I am, that's on you.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 21:27 GMT
#2258
##give GlowingBear 10 posts

This is hilarious.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 21:33 GMT
#2260
On May 13 2015 21:35 marvellosity wrote:
so sandroba was right, you are mafia. lovely.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 21:36 GMT
#2262
On May 16 2015 06:30 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 06:23 Stutters695 wrote:
Anyway, I'll humor your ridiculous thought for a second. I had missed the d1 vote and really hadn't done shit so I decided to shoot n1 rather than get myself involved in the d2 pool and potentially waste a day. I'd rather die at night than waste a lynch. Originally I wanted to shoot BH/Trfel to try and shed some light on the nuke fiasco but when I was reading through I saw VE/Droba/Marv all had Palmar as scummy. Reading his filter I was eh about it, but I respect their reads and Droba's post that implied Palmar might not be scum, but 3p sealed the deal since either way, as long as I don't hit town I live. Thus it seemed like a safe shot and even if I missed would generate info.


Anyway, last post on that, I'm done with that topic. If you can't see how obviously town I am, that's on you.


This doesn't make sense to me though. How does shooting n1 keep you from getting involved in the d2 pool and why would you ever be dying at night?

Also I don't think marv had palmar as scum unless he said that outside the thread. The worst thing marv said about palmar that I saw was that he was "useless when he's like this."


Because of my role. Jesus Christ you guys are dense. I shot Palmar. If he was town, I'm dead. If I'm not dead, I shot a mafia and thus lynching me would be real retarded d2.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 22:45 GMT
#2282
On May 16 2015 07:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 06:23 Stutters695 wrote:
Anyway, I'll humor your ridiculous thought for a second. I had missed the d1 vote and really hadn't done shit so I decided to shoot n1 rather than get myself involved in the d2 pool and potentially waste a day. I'd rather die at night than waste a lynch. Originally I wanted to shoot BH/Trfel to try and shed some light on the nuke fiasco but when I was reading through I saw VE/Droba/Marv all had Palmar as scummy. Reading his filter I was eh about it, but I respect their reads and Droba's post that implied Palmar might not be scum, but 3p sealed the deal since either way, as long as I don't hit town I live. Thus it seemed like a safe shot and even if I missed would generate info.


Anyway, last post on that, I'm done with that topic. If you can't see how obviously town I am, that's on you.



So you're saying you had VE/Sandroba/Marv as obvious town go sheep their reads?
Even if they (well, just Sandroba) never voted Palmar?

Even if VE hasn't done anything good on day1.

Even if, you know, marv tried to vote FUCKING BH, FUCKING VIVAX before Palmar.

And please, you voted palmar since the start of fay1 which implies you didn't scumread him AFTER reading their filters.


I didn't say that. The odds of all 3 being scum is very slim at best. One might have been bussing, but when all 3 of them reach the same conclusion I'm inclined to agree. I had a town read on Droba at that point, and it felt like a good shot as I explained.

Vivax was dead so obviously I couldn't shoot him and I had expressed my doubts about BH (I even gave him posts to help him defend himself).

Your last sentence makes literally no sense so I'm not touching it.

But let's try and understand your stance on this.

I didn't make a pro-town play. That either means I'm scum and used night KP (or a scum df which is retarded) to shoot a teammate which is retarded.

Or as you claim I'm a DF traitor who shot scum instead of not shooting because my role name is Brutus.

This is literally the dumbest push I've ever seen.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 22:49 GMT
#2284
I kind of want to lynch GB. Anyone down tomorrow?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 23:06 GMT
#2287
On May 16 2015 08:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Do as you guys please.

Why don't you SHOOT ME INSTEAD STUTTERS?

Because with your boner on me being traitor, I almost feel you might actually be that. And I don't know if shooting a traitor flips me.

I'm only half serious about lynching you, but stop shitting up the thread for real. You're spamming about a lynch that isn't going to happen on a completely flawed premise. It's getting old.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 16 2015 06:04 GMT
#2370
On May 16 2015 14:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Practically everyone's activity in the game has died off, marv /ve/yamato /rol /stutters / kel / ls/trfel.

Not all these people can be scum so the activity dying off isn't a scumtell


Yeah I don't think stutters/rol have ever been super active either.

I'm trying to figure it out. If I have stuff to say I will, but I don't need to prove I'm town and most of my reads are bad so I don't want to shit up the thread. Earlier was bad enough lol.

Also, LMFAO GB, that's hilarious. It makes a lot more sense.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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May 16 2015 18:36 GMT
#2444
So that explains why I didn't die. I figured I was dead all of day 2 to an assassin.

GG.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-16 23:23:52
May 16 2015 23:19 GMT
#2499
On May 17 2015 07:34 Keirathi wrote:
More often than not, a lot of town KP tends to actually be really bad for town.

This game it happened to work out really well, but I would definitely say this game was the exception rather than the rule.

Yeah, especially when someone like myself ends up with it. Normally (and it almost happened this game) I straight up misread someone and we get dead town. I really wanted to clear up the BH/BM/Trfel situation since I still wasn't 100% on BM as scum after the hidden flip. But that felt coinflippy and I didn't want to give scum a free 2 KP. I honestly would have done it though if not for Sand being positive Palmar wasn't town since a 3p kill was just as good for my role. Crazy how one line made that much of a difference when literally everything lines up.
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