Dude. Serious talk for a minute even though the trolling is really fun.

You incorrectly shot me, now you could at least pay a little respect to my reads.

Post a single reads post and then stop playing. If you feel the need, update it before you die.

Otherwise, you're just fucking mafia shitting up the thread.

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 14 2015 18:28 GMT

#2028

On May 15 2015 03:26 batsnacks wrote:

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I don't like the cut of your jib, friend. Jat is town anyway.

Play the game or you're going to die.

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 14 2015 19:52 GMT

#2050

On May 15 2015 03:31 Half the Sky wrote:
14/60

A few points - Xatalos shot was not a bad one IMO (I mean seriously, he's fallen off again) although seeing his flip would have been really nice. I really do hope there is a coroner around this game.

My take on Onegu:

Argument between him and rsoultin - based on tone as I said before D1, I was seeing both town and scum tendencies in him. I was very torn that he's going after Rasputin, although basd on meta a key thing that made Rasputin scum was her tendency to hesitate for a post or two when people scumread her. She has adapted her scumgame well, but this game given the reasoning she's had particularly her long novel on n1, really makes me believe she's town.

Yeh the formatting of her posts has hurt my head sometimes, but her reads are pretty clear even if she doesn't use the exact language to scumread someone (ie this person is scum).

The key argument against Onegu regarding the case on Rasputin - to put it in one sentence - is that he's using ONE scumtell on her (instead of multiple that there are, and that he IS aware of, per our experience in NSM7) and a key scumtell I haven't seen is her hesitation for 1-2 posts before she responds if she is scumread. It's hard to articulate, but I haven't seen it here, and he's ignored that particular tell.

Separate from this argument, he's been pushing LS, who I also don't like this game at all either (but that's a separate issue) though I see he's claiming a blue role as well.

I'd say my biggest issue with Onegu is that he's really sparse with the scumreads. There are 4 scum remaining so if LS is blue, who is he scumreading now?

Basically your lynch isn't a bad one at this point.

Of course it isn't. I think Onegu's play is very mafia motivated and I don't trust/understand his reads at all. It's like he's Oats only he shouldn't be that bad.

About LS, I don't really think he's mafia but it is astounding that both you and him used your powers on GB instead of someone like sandro or myself who was blatantly town and also actually worth saving/giving KP to, BUT WHATEVER, what's done is done.

On May 15 2015 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Yamato if Onegu flips town who you think would be scum and why?

This is a pointless question. Talk about your read on Onegu or literally just stop posting and vote him. I'm sick of people obfuscating discussion with pointless conjecture. If you don't want to lynch Onegu, EXPLAIN WHY, because at this moment I'm probably going to get the lynch I want.

On May 15 2015 04:02 batsnacks wrote:

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Basically I claimed vt subtly and Jat, rs, and oats picked up on it immediately. I think this was early enough in the game that mafia wouldn't have asked for fakes yet.

VE, yamato, BH, LS, and you (GB) all blatantly missed it so you're all most likely either blues or mafia.

Sandro also picked up on it btw but I missed it because I wasn't reading and was afk at eod. So voting Sandro was a mistake.

well, considering we're all FUCKING BLUE CLAIMS

maybe your system of reading people is just shit?

do you really believe mafia wouldn't have gotten a sample VT PM in their QT when open PM claiming is allowed?

just terrible.

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 14 2015 19:58 GMT

#2052

also, JAT is blatantly NOT a fucking VT and is also clearly mafia, so your way of clearing people is also shit

GJ bluehunting though, I'm impressed.

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 14 2015 20:06 GMT

#2054

On May 15 2015 05:03 Trfel wrote:
Hi, yamato77.

Did you notice anything weird last night?

I knew it was you.

but with BH alive I couldn't take the risk

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 14 2015 22:18 GMT

#2126

marv's QT is communal

TD's QTs are not

end of story

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 14 2015 23:12 GMT

#2133

On May 15 2015 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:
SO ENLIGHTEN ME YOU AWFUL PRICKS

WHO IS MAFIA AND WHY?

STOP SITTING BACK WITH YOUR AWFUL EGOS ECHOING IN THE THREAD THAT ALL PLAYERS ARE BAD AND DO SOME WORK

GOD

we are

you're the one causing problems

BY THE WAY, I assumed nothing. I'm masoned with both masons.

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 15 2015 20:25 GMT

#2247

So I'm pretty sure I killed two mafia today.

Oats is probably town, he's just bad.

TD is town, he can't fake this as mafia.

VE is certainly town.

Marv seems pretty town.

LS is probably town.

Stutters is obviously town.

Marv is right about Obi, he looks pretty good despite being pretty low on the totem pole.

trfel just blindly sheeping me is a little worrying, as town I feel like he was definitely more independent-minded. Him sharing my Onegu read isn't that bad, though, so we'll see.

HtS is probably town. GB is also probably town but just mafia siding with literally everything he posts.

Batsnacks - who knows? Might have to kill him.

RoL has his claim going for him and not much else.

Stay on the onegu lynch, it's pretty obvious he's mafia. Don't listen to JAT, he's just trying to WIFOM at this point. Take nothing he says seriously. Baby seals are appropriate.

Going to work in half an hour, I'll be back after deadline to do any evaluating of the gamestate that I feel is necessary.

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 15 2015 20:31 GMT

#2248

people that say kels is mafia:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?user=KelsierSC

town kels' first game

very instructional

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 16 2015 02:56 GMT

#2327

Traitor is a role that begins the game sharing a wincon with mafia but not knowing his teammates unless he correctly guesses a number of or the entire actual mafia team.

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 16 2015 05:07 GMT

#2357

stutters should just shoot someone like marv

it's basically a cop check at this point

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 16 2015 05:07 GMT

#2358

trfel

I would shoot trfel

I still don't really think marv is mafia

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 16 2015 05:18 GMT

#2364

On May 16 2015 14:10 GlowingBear wrote:

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Because...?

he posted three posts on D2?

if you're talking about marv, idk man.

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 16 2015 05:24 GMT

#2366

I posted a shitload D2

my activity did not really die off

so no

yamato77

11589 Posts

May 16 2015 18:42 GMT

#2445

Townies need to stop claiming, zzz.

Unless you're going to get lynched, don't fucking claim. Did you see how I played? I told no one I had a role until I was ready to use it and then I fired my nuke without saying anything in the thread. So many of you claimed for basically no reason and it just made the game more confusing instead of less.

By the way, this is an incredibly strong mafia team on paper and I'm pretty impressed that the town kp largely hit scum. High town KP setups will always be high variance and it just worked this game. Sick stuff.