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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 20:24 GMT
#2060
haven't you run out of posts yet?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 20:29 GMT
#2063
HtS, you don't need to tell me what Palmar does and how he plays, but thanks anyway ^^

hence "the one thing"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:21 GMT
#2093
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

very little, TD was the one influencing me and VE was away
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:22 GMT
#2095
On May 15 2015 06:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

He was just pretty certain about Vivax being mafia...nothing outside his normal parameters imo. Frankly though, considering his target got lynched he didn't really HAVE to do anything, at least in my QT, regardless of his alignment.

note ^ not at EoD
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:24 GMT
#2097
so scummy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:27 GMT
#2102
On May 15 2015 06:25 TalkingDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:21 marvellosity wrote:
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

very little, TD was the one influencing me and VE was away

I'll take that as a major compliment.

"outside factors"

but ok <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:29 GMT
#2104
Essentially what happened at EoD (I know several ppl talked about my switch to vivax as scummy) is that BH was posting a TONNE and although it was kinda bilge, I always get the jeebies when someone is massposting around deadline

then Trfel made a pretty good post about Vivax and TD (who i was/am pretty sure was town by virtue of the fact he masoned me to start with + nothing he said sounded scummy in QT) was pushing the idea that Vivax might be a good lynch after all, and I switched over
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:30 GMT
#2105
On May 15 2015 06:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:24 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

For the most part, Marv made his points but he was happy to let Damdred and I do whatever we felt was best. He was fine with me waiting to join BH so I could watch how votes/wagons formed and he was interested in the Vivax thing despite being high.

Damdred and Marv I picked because I feel like I can read him well and he's a really strong player. Damdred I didn't think woudl try to figure out (or out if he knew) my smurf and Marv wouldn't either as he hates when his smurfs are outed.

Yamato I picked because he's a strong player that I wanted connected in the mason chain.
Rsoultin I picked because I didn't think she had much experience with QT play from both sides and would be easier to get a read on in direct contact

I was going to pick Sandroba and Rsoultin, but Marv wanted to grab Sandroba and he knows Sandroba much better than I do so it was fine.


So you guys knew marv was a mason recruiter also?

i claimed to TD
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:37 GMT
#2110
On May 15 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:


So Palmar knew you were going to put Sandroba in your qt.

Marv, why didn't you tell palmar and VE that you were in another mason qt?

because i didn't trust them with that information (mostly palmar), whereas i did trust TD
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:42 GMT
#2113
2 at the start of d1

anyway i'm off for a shower, this line of questioning is extremely boring :p All my actions/posts surrounding it are so obviously explained with a town motive and it's so contorted if i'm mafia, so it's pointless and you should recognise it's pointless
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:44 GMT
#2115
On May 15 2015 06:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:42 marvellosity wrote:
2 at the start of d1

anyway i'm off for a shower, this line of questioning is extremely boring :p All my actions/posts surrounding it are so obviously explained with a town motive and it's so contorted if i'm mafia, so it's pointless and you should recognise it's pointless

I realized it ALMOST instantly, but then people started being like "DUH THATS SO MAFIA" so I lost my shit a little bit.

I'm fine now. So long as you stop calling me scummy. <3

it was a joke, you bearded sexgod
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 22:03 GMT
#2123
On May 15 2015 06:56 GlowingBear wrote:
It's the second time marv peaces out because this line of questioning is boring/I am bad

that's because the line of questioning is boring and you are bad
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 22:04 GMT
#2124
On May 15 2015 06:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2015 06:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:32 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:25 Palmar wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:19 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:09 Palmar wrote:
you're right that was a bit dick-ish, sorry LS

But the point stands. Sandroba not posting as mafia in one game does not mean he cannot post in another, and because of the filter limitations it's not exactly hard to post 3 pages of stuff in one game.

Same with RoL. He's lazy and shit as either alignment. But he did jump a dumb remark from me (apparently a lot of people here are literally sheldon).

Like maybe I'm just wrong and bad about sandroba, projecting my own personality on him too much but he's now done two things this game where I just think "If I was towndroba in this situation I'd have reacted completely differently". Aside from my initial point about how him saying he'd keep an eye on marv was basically a pointless sentence that doesn't fit in (If he doesn't say that, can we then assume he's not keeping an eye on marv? Isn't the default position in all mafia games to always keep an eye on everyone?), there is more too.

1). Sandroba's reaction to me calling him scum.

On May 11 2015 23:30 sandroba wrote:
On May 11 2015 23:24 Palmar wrote:
Every time I say something really dumb the thread dies.

fixed it for you.

I wouldn't mind killing jat either.


Dismissal. He doesn't defend against my point and he doesn't try to use it to pry into my own alignment. He just outright dismisses my stuff, only to come back later and say:

On May 12 2015 19:55 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 19:49 Palmar wrote:
[quote]
You're mafia so why do you care?

If you believe so, I want you to tell me why that is. I can't tell if you are trolling/tunneling aimlessly or you actually believe what you are saying.


Which implies he doesn't know why I think he's mafia, when I had already explained it then.

Also

2). His reaction to the BM pardon.

Sandroba literally just made this case on BM:
On May 12 2015 19:34 sandroba wrote:
I think we do need to lynch BM today. The bullshit level in his posts is a lot higher than anything I've seen from him. It is still possible that he is town and using a large quantity of drugs but that I cannot account for, and unless someone can confirm him town so he can be safely ignored we will need to deal with him at some point and I would prefer if it was today. One example of the BS he is pushing that I think points to him clearly lying on purpose and not being on drugs is this post:
On May 12 2015 16:22 Bill Murray wrote:
[quote]

So Trfel makes excuses
"ill be absent"
"this post it so ensure that i comply with the one post every 24 hours rule" then he posts a video... cool. really beneficial
before this all he had done was harass people

Then I nuke him for behaving like this, which didnt fit how he played last game as town

WITHIN AN HOUR of him "fulfilling his daily post on mothers day", he posts:
[quote]

And not only that, but he wants to misrepresent what happened
He instead attacks me NOT for me nuking him, but wants to lie and come up with some bullshit excuse to basically omgus me

1) he tries to nuke me in return
that doesnt work
2) he votes me
3) he then proceeded to ask me if i have any more nukes after unvoting
4) he finds out i have no more nukes
5) he votes me again

this guy isnt enjoyable to play with, and his behavior is self serving and scummy as fuck

He is clearly nit picking and ignoring parts of trfel post. trfel states that he is going to be back in a few hours to this game but BM does not bold that part and bolds parts that change the meaning of the post. Also he flat out lies about the time elapsed between the 2 posts, which was 4 hours, not one, in accordance to the part BM chose to overlook in his first post.
Conclusion is I think he is doing it on purpose and is mafia for it.
##vote: BM


And his primary scumread gets pardoned.

This is fucking sandroba people. Not some random scrub who doesn't know jack shit about the game. Again, I may be projecting my own personality but I'd be so mad at this.

Think how I would've reacted if anyone would've pardoned GB in mini mafia mini thing or someone had pardoned WoS in noir 3. I was mad enough with people just not listening to me. But someone actively shutting me down? Fuck that.

I don't think sandroba cares, I think he didn't defend my case and instead chose to dismiss it and I think my initial point was very good.

We should lynch sandroba.


Palmar is scum. This post is the biggest BS in this thread besides bill murray. You are not projecting anything, you know how I play and "sandroba isn't defend against my case" is completely dumb since you posted something retarded that I dismissed as troll. You aren't reading anything, you are trying to force this read and haven't given any insight on any of the suspicious people that are being discussed. We should lynch palmar.


Dismissal count: 2

Go on

And yes, I told you didn't think BM is mafia and I still don't think he is. There is no reason at all for him to antagonize a ton of potentially strong townies and to use nukes randomly as mafia. I loved Gb's pardon and I also had already given a semi-tone read on him.

I've talked about rol and I've talked about you. I've hinted I think VE is town.

So yes, I have given plenty of insight.



So you are saying I'm mafia because
1: I said i would keep my eye on marv (????)
2: I didn't rage at GB who I think is town. (????)
Which is completely retarded and doesn't make anyone mafia in any world.
Despite my current level of activity and the content which I'm posting which I abosolutely never do as mafia because simply I can't keep up. Knowing who the scum team is simply crushes my interest and I have to try really hard to even pretend I have a scum read and I'm a lot more sucint and direct about my reads which I can't justify.
You've talked about RoL who I'll give a prise to anyone who can guess his alignment at this point with a good margin of success. You've said you think VE is town, but didn't say why. You haven't talked about Xatalos and Vivax at all which are the main people being discussed. You simply ignored what I've pointed out about BM and read him town randomly. Palmar isn't this bad. He is mafia.

I'm not sure I get the rationale of a mafia-Palmar honing in on a target with the history that you have with each other. Palmar's played plenty of games with you (probably only more with me + VE) and realistically if he wanted to choose a prominent player to target, he should have chosen me, because he loves to scumread me no matter my alignment. Instead he chose you, when (if i'm wrong, correct me) you have quite a good history of trying to read each other.

I like to think I am pretty good at reading Palmar normally and he can easily get into stupid dumb tunnels as town

in the situation of sandroba-town and palmar-mafia, gunning for you seems like a kinda suicidal play with no upsides for him, so i think this can be town-town


Are you sure?

That was made a few irl days ago so ofc we now know it was Town on Scum there between Sandroba and Palmar.


LS, you don't get it.

Marv makes a mason qt with both palmar and VE. He doesn't trust these guys to tell them he was RECRUITED in another qt, but he trusts Damdred, Yamato AND TD (which he trusts is another town mason) to say he IS a POWER ROLE???

Then he ASKS to let Sandroba being added to his qt, and Sandroba is dead at night, and rsoultin is shot at the exact moment she starts suspecting marv and VE

Like, come on.

like NONE of this is how it happened

I trusted TD, I am only in a QT with TD, I didn't tell anyone else but him, yamato and Damdred are nothing to do with it?

I didn't "ask" to let sandroba be added to my QT, where are you getting this trash from?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 22:46 GMT
#2129
I recruited 2 people who I enjoy playing with lol, what's hard to understand? Do you not understand the difference between a mafia geript making the conscious decision to choose me (which is absurdly dangerous) and me choosing 2 people like I did? for realsies?

Anyway I claim we are all mafia, it's all a conspiracy.

chortle
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 15 2015 09:36 GMT
#2178
On May 15 2015 15:29 GlowingBear wrote:
In other words: Mafia is comfortable with this lynch.

Obi, help me thinking please.

Do you think it's possible that marvs QT with VE is true but the QTs with TD are fake, meaning yamato/marv/TD are part of a scum team?

Only my mafia buddies in my QTs know my current preference xoxo
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 15 2015 14:39 GMT
#2184
On May 15 2015 23:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Morning ladies.

Why hasn't the thread run away with itself yet? I was expecting to have to catch up...

I think most of the craziness happened in the first half of the day and people are taking some kind of breather.

It's worth mentioning that town is in a fantastic spot, by my reckoning we have probably 3 mafia dead/dying, and maybe even 4. So we're very far ahead.

My masonmafia buddies are a little split on who to lynch, but for today at least my PoE list is pretty small, because there are pretty nice reasons to call a lot of ppl town.

Down to something like Obi/Oats/Onegu atm. Obi's filter looks ok honestly, he just doesn't have as much going for him as most other ppl. Oats could easily be mafia (I do still like point 1 from the GB case I originally commented on) but at least he's direct and combative. This leaves Onegu who is kinda just existing in the thread in a weird way and making kinda weird reads that don't make that much sense, but not weird enough to look town.

Also his comment that if he is mafia he wouldn't be wagoned on d1/d2 feels pretty disingenuous to me - this game has been pretty fast-paced (i.e. there have been a lot of things happening), and literally the only reason he wasn't killed on d2 in XXX was because he claimed VT at the start in a meta-breaking move - his play that game was actually terrible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 15 2015 15:03 GMT
#2187
On May 15 2015 23:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 23:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 15 2015 23:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Morning ladies.

Why hasn't the thread run away with itself yet? I was expecting to have to catch up...

I think most of the craziness happened in the first half of the day and people are taking some kind of breather.

It's worth mentioning that town is in a fantastic spot, by my reckoning we have probably 3 mafia dead/dying, and maybe even 4. So we're very far ahead.

My masonmafia buddies are a little split on who to lynch, but for today at least my PoE list is pretty small, because there are pretty nice reasons to call a lot of ppl town.

Down to something like Obi/Oats/Onegu atm. Obi's filter looks ok honestly, he just doesn't have as much going for him as most other ppl. Oats could easily be mafia (I do still like point 1 from the GB case I originally commented on) but at least he's direct and combative. This leaves Onegu who is kinda just existing in the thread in a weird way and making kinda weird reads that don't make that much sense, but not weird enough to look town.

Also his comment that if he is mafia he wouldn't be wagoned on d1/d2 feels pretty disingenuous to me - this game has been pretty fast-paced (i.e. there have been a lot of things happening), and literally the only reason he wasn't killed on d2 in XXX was because he claimed VT at the start in a meta-breaking move - his play that game was actually terrible.


What exactly does this mean? I thought Onegu's read on LS was pretty weird, but what kind of weird were you expecting?

batsnacks weird :D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 15 2015 15:56 GMT
#2191
On May 16 2015 00:31 batsnacks wrote:
I want to know what the masons are talking about.

Pot and phantom nooses
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 15 2015 16:02 GMT
#2193
marv+masons+oats scumbuddies4lyfe
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 15 2015 16:04 GMT
#2194
you're essentially scumreading me by association with an unflipped player because i don't want to lynch who you want to lynch, it's super cute
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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