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##Vote:Oatsmaster And Damdred, I decided to get out of the thread exactly because I thought I needed to cool down my head after you shot the guy I pardoned. Anyway, oats is very underwhelming, is dodging my questioning, following thread sentiment without putting any original thoughts in thread, making absurd assumptions of team (BM and BH together) and when the flaw was revealed, he didn't seem to reevaluate his read until after some time, which I found it was an odd reaction. HTS, vote oats with me. | ||
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On May 13 2015 00:42 rsoultin wrote: meh gb unless you're voting a townread you've got my vote today -_- i'm done tired of beating my head against a wall. if people can't see why what damdred did was nonsensical i don't even know. it's less that he did it and that he did it WITH his current reads under THESE circumstances. whatever Dear, I can see it as nonsensical. But I can't find Mafia motivation behind it. If Bill was town, Damdred is right, it would be better to try an push a mislynch on BM day2. Don't get me wrong. He could be Mafia. He could just shoot a townie so people pushing a mislynch on BM wouldn't look bad. But I don't think Damdred is the day1 lynch due to we already have enough information on him. A Coroner, for example, could look for his alignment tonight. | ||
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On May 13 2015 00:47 Half the Sky wrote: 45/60 Marv - by that same token, do you think he's being vague in regards to Vivax or is that read from him reasonable? He's using meta as a reason to townread Vivax despite Vivax's wanting to trash his town meta (which I would think should make Sandroba disregard meta as well??). But I was asking him to look into the content. His first few reads in the beginning were fine. I can't comment on the VE read as I'm not even that familiar with VE now other than he doesn't strike me as a town leader. But I just didn't like his responses on Vivax. In any case he's probably and shouldn't get lynched today for it, but I just found it dicey. GB - Oatsmaster is a third choice for me behind Vivax/Xatalos. I think either of the latter two are more likely to get lynched over him. Going to be back around EoD although I don't have too many posts left either. (Any questions (anyone) ask away and I'll consolidate them to save posts.) Could you point out why Vivax or Xatalos are better lynches? Even if you already have. I'll save posts now. I'll probably deliver a case on oats for you to evaluate, and maybe that consolidated list post I am promising since start of the day | ||
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I slept the entire afternoon. I don't know what's going on. Anyway, I think town has to organise themselves. I would like people to list others that they think are most likely town. Like this: HTS Damdred Palmar Sandroba Yamato If we get a similar list, we form a town circle and consolidate our votes. Please let's listen to each other and agree with a good lynch. | ||
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I give up on this | ||
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On May 13 2015 07:03 yamato77 wrote: EVERYONE SWITCH TO BH What changed? HtS, I'm busy and I won't be able to develop a thoroght case on oats. My reasoning is this 1. Gives me a townread very early in the game when discussion on me was developing. Scumreads Sandroba for townreading me. 2. Scumreads Sandroba but does not really firmly engage him. Never votes Sandroba. Votes BM easily without any accurate thought process 3. Considers the bizarre team of BH and BM. A town will never reach this conclusion if they are paying attention to the thread. This can only come from a Mafia that has perfect information and needs to fabricate reads, and follow thread sentiment. For the record, his scum reads were BM, Xatalos and BH. Pretty standard. No consideration regarding Vivax. When I point out how a team of BM and BH is weird, instead of saying something in the line of "oh I didn't realise that", he goes in the line of justifying this stupid thing by saying "they wanted to gain town cred". Not the towniest reaction I would expect. We have much more inconsistency in oats than in any of the players set up for the lynch. | ||
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I'm voting Vivax or Oats today. No one else. | ||
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LOOK HOW EASILY THE WAGON ON BH WAS FORMED AND HOW EASILY VIVAX WAGON WAS DISBANDED JUST USE YOUR FUCKING BRAINS!!!!! | ||
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On May 13 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote: Read obs qt or ask yam. I was lynched and immediately cashed yam scum Sandro town now btw ##unvote ##vote xat I must live Why Xatalos instead of Vivax? | ||
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On May 13 2015 08:10 Blazinghand wrote: Xat has more votes. I'll vote whoever has the most votes and isn't me Vivax has the same amount of votes Xatalos has after I voted him. Vote Vivax to save yourself and lynch scum Yamato is only berating me, he says BH isn't scum for bad usage of his role but votes BH because of the usage of his role LOL YOU'RE HILARIOUS YAMATO | ||
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##Vote: BlazingHand Bye | ||
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I need people to give me posts. Just three more are okay. I'm not putting any content in here because I don't want to be unfair and keep exceeding post count. This is just a "begging" | ||
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Marv, oats, BH and LS are most likely Mafia. In this order. I'll make a post with four cases in it. And this time I will really do it. Yamato, am I town? Answer me win reasoning, please. | ||
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Oats is Mafia 1) Weird early and unexplained townread on me. + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2015 16:03 Oatsmaster wrote: glowingbear isnt scum, stop that whole line of reasoning. On May 11 2015 09:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Gb is town guys. Unless he faked that shit like super super well. Sandro, talking deads list post was the most recent and longest one, why not point it out? Also, the tone of your posts is very structured, and the questions you ask seem to be more for show than actually gaining alignment relevant information Why did he disrupt discussion about me? How can he have this town read based on the list post I've made? Why my list post is hard to fake? This feels so much like when scum!Onegu defended me in a game I can't remember right now. My guess is that he did this to gain town cred (going against thread sentiment). 2) Scumreads Xata early on, makes no attempt to really lynch him. Also scumreads rsoultin but does nothing about it. Also TalkingDead. Votes BM following thread sentiment. Votes Vivax on Final Votecount instead of Xatalos. + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2015 12:40 Oatsmaster wrote: OK saw the longass post. That's a bad post. Mainly because of one point. When td compares the difference between town-town, he says that they will be able to rethink their reads. But in his town-scum analysis, he said that one of them will keep beating a dead horse, specifying that it might be either. So since they don't know each others alignments, the town - scum scenario he proposes could happen with town - town too. So in conclusion, td is bullshitting his town-town read cause he got caught. On May 11 2015 16:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Oo I really don't like rsoultin, that post is way too obvious and it feels like rsoul thought she needed to have a response to bm. On May 11 2015 22:37 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote BM Why is my defence of you suprising marv? On May 12 2015 12:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Voting BM. There's no way he takes this game so seriously as town. Xata is scum. BH also might be scum.. On May 12 2015 12:43 Oatsmaster wrote: I'm really confused ve. Xata is like straight up scum more than bm but I can't push lynch on him right now. On May 12 2015 20:44 Oatsmaster wrote: dude you arent fucking lynching me again day 1 for no reason. Ok lets lynch Xata then. 100% scum. Im not even kidding On May 13 2015 08:39 Oatsmaster wrote: LYNCH XATA MAN. 100% SCUM. Vivax might be but Xata is more scum. So he initially scumreads TalkingDead, agreeing with Sandroba. Even say "he got caught". Never addresses to TD again. Then he says he really don't like rsoultin (but he said he can't read rsoultin earlier in the game lol). Never addresses to rsoultin again. Following thread sentiment, votes BM for an awful reason ("I don't believe BM would be this serious as town"), when "serious" is not the exact word you could use for a guy who uses a nuke on early day1. Keeps voting BM although giving faint scumreads on Xatalos, never voting him. I get him off guard and pardon Bill Murray. He can only vote his other two scumreads (Xata or Blazinghand, as I quoted before). He townreads BH over a weak reason and keeps scumreading Xatalos without actively trying to get him lynched (saying to me to "lynch Xatalos he is 100%" only isn't a guy who is actually trying to get Xatalos lynched). Lands his vote on Vivax instead of voting BH who he had a scumread on. I just want to remember you that his scumread on BH was because "he suspiciously anti nuked the first nuke", and this is a thing that can't be changed. I have no idea what made him flip his read other than when I revealed two scum partners couldn't waste 2 nukes and antinukes just to gain towncred that can't be gained, but the way he reacted to this statement didn't show sudden realisation on him (as I'll cover in the next item). Why not trying to get people o Xatalos even BEFORE the wagon on BH happened? 3) Putting BM and BH in the same scumteam. On May 12 2015 12:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Voting BM. There's no way he takes this game so seriously as town. Xata is scum. BH also might be scum.. My argument is that this cannot come from a town perspective since I doubt townies would feel BH and BM are possibly in the same scumteam wasting 2 nukes and 2 antinukes. Anyone reading the thread should know this. It is NOT a natural thought process. Scumreading them both comes much more from a mafia perspective of fitting reads to push his own and/or mafia agenda. It seems to me he just came to the thread, saw a discussion about BM and BH being mafia, and opened his possibilities by listing both of them. The following posts supports this view: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2015 13:02 Oatsmaster wrote: BH isnt getting lynched now. Enough towncred? On May 12 2015 13:04 Oatsmaster wrote: GB tell me, if someone dayvigged a townie on day 1, will you kill that someone? On May 12 2015 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Like lynch. BM didnt nuke to look townie, what are you talking about GB. I would deffo lynch xata On May 12 2015 13:17 Oatsmaster wrote: ????? like with his first post, ##SHOOT TOWNIE On May 12 2015 12:55 Oatsmaster wrote: One nuke was fake and why not get cred? Also bm basically killed someone at the start of the day. Does that sound townie to you? Nope. And all his reasoning is real sketchy but he's trying hard so he clearly cares. A townie that shoots someone at the start of the day does not care. So, instead of having the natural "OH LOL NEVERMIND I'M STUPID" town reaction, he started to JUSTIFY his reads by saying they tried to get town cred, even creating a hypothetical paralel of a Dayvigi shooting a townie. Wifom sidenote: Funny thing that when he says "shooting a townie" is almost as he is sure that Truffle was town. Important sidenote!: He even admits that a townie that shoots someone at the start of the day does not care, when his reasoning for voting BM was "BM can't be this serious as town". I understand his argument about a gameplay inconsistency (BM not caring while shooting at the start of the day VS BM caring after being scumread for it), but I don't believe in it. It's late and I don't want to make more cases today, so I'll save it for my last post. I'm reevaluating my read on marv. Reading his filter, I saw some townie reactions, and that is making me wary. My scumread on BH and LS are still on. But we may have to go against more problematic players. Obi is pretty underwhelming and his playstyle fits so much his mafia meta. Batsnacks is WTF RoL is "why do you sign in?" Onegu is "I have no idea" VE is "please do your shit" Palmar looks townie to me but "please step up and do shit, you're doing nothing" Stutters is "why even signing in?" Too many information-less players we have to care about Also, yamato, I'm starting to get on my nerves with you. | ||
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I also need one more post, pls, someone | ||
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Marv, what point on my case on oats was good, what is your read on him? Someone give me one more post. I had to ask these questions because they are important. | ||
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Anyway, obi, when you're scum you hardly have any strong read. You usually ask generic questions but do nothing with them. When you're town, your reads are very bold and when you change your reads you reveal your thought process in thread. I'm not seeing it in this game. I can build a meta case day2 in case I survive. I also find extremely weird that you (i) does not comment on my case on oats at all and (ii) you raise suspicions on me for putting in one post 9 people we should be talking about, saying that that post should be only for oats, ignoring the fact that this is a game with post restriction and I was running out of posts. Moving on BH isn't just Mafia for anti nuking. He is Mafia because he was useless day1 and his initial reads were regarding imprecise game mechanics, easy excuse for Mafia to make reads. When I posted the contradiction regarding the mechanics, he kept with his argument instead of clarifying it with the hosts (ergo: he wanted that to be true so he could have those reads instead of he BELIEVED that it could be true). I've asked the mods and they said Mafia gets to known their partners night0. More than that, even believing in the reads from those mechanics, he completely forgets those reads and calls me town now over a illusory contradiction. But he called me town based on that mechanics. Marv had some townie reactions but scummy plays. Summarising: in the start of day1 he raised suspicions on Onegu and oats. He then again raised suspicions on oats. And did NOTHING with it. When I pointed out scummy things about oats, he completely ignored to push his own agenda. It is clear that he knows the scummy points I've brought because he quoted a post from that time when I said "BH is up to lynch" just to say "he is not". Later he places a vote with weak reasoning on BH that got unexpected traction, than stupidly votes Vivax out of nothing. UNFLIPPED ASSOCIATION: he voted on a team mate to distance himself, saw it getting traction and voted Vivax to save his scum partner. I was expecting that: he kept his options open when he said he was going to vote BH. IF Blazinghand flips town, LS totally is mafia for intentionally throwing away his vote when he was here on deadline. I'm flipping my read on Damdred. He is Mafia. He starts the game very try harding. Gives weird reads. But keeps try Harding. Then he joins his scum meta by being extremely passive and asking questions that goes nowhere or never following up on them. His shot fits much more a Mafia perspective. See, you have a guy being scumread by the whole thread. He gets pardoned because there was a town read on him. People starts townreading the guy. Damdred shoots the guy that could be problematic later without revealing his alignment with the perfect excuse of "not wasting day2". Palmar needs to step up or he might be mafia. I have to go. I'm strongly townreading rsoultin and HTS Yamato could be scum for doing nothing other than berating players. I THINK BH IS THE BEST SHOT HERE SINCE HE IS SCUM AND HIS FLIP WILL GIVE US A LOT OF INFORMATION byr | ||
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On May 14 2015 10:39 TalkingDead wrote: You're an idiot. Even if you got the ability from scum, who cares? It means my reads are wrong Dumbass | ||
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