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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:11 GMT
#1380
On May 13 2015 08:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:43 sandroba wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I found yam suspicious for defending me ibn noir. I was town he was scum

More bad meta. Literally every game, the bad meta. Lynch the meta liars first

I suspect you are talking about noir 3. Did a quick skim of the game and you did no such thing.


Read obs qt or ask yam. I was lynched and immediately cashed yam scum

Sandro town now btw

##unvote
##vote xat

I must live


Why Xatalos instead of Vivax?


Xat has more votes. I'll vote whoever has the most votes and isn't me

you literally do this as non-town 100% of the time
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:12 GMT
#1383
On May 13 2015 08:11 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:09 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:09 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:08 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:06 Blazinghand wrote:
bah, this is why I should just RNG, so I don't have to deal with garbage like this D1. back to RNG starting next game

maybe you should have, you know, played the fucking game

instead of just blindly using your role thinking it made you town


Yamato is definitely scum for this post, btw, for knowing I'm flipping town, and posting this, and voting me.

you're adorable

no denial, no backtrack, because he can't; all he can do is joke and try to draw attention away from it.

nothing I said implied that I knew you were town

if you're upset about being lynched, as any alignment, it's your own fault
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:13 GMT
#1387
On May 13 2015 08:12 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:11 yamato77 wrote:
I defended your sorry ass last game as mafia

with so many other options, why would I mislynch you over the other scummy fucks in this game, a number of which are likely to be town and also resist less?


given that part of the case on me is literally "blazinghand isn't putting up much resistance, which he usually does as town" (a statement that is, of course, once again people not understanding my meta because people is bad) your quesiton is invalid

plus you're changing things up

it's not part of my case on you
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:16 GMT
#1389
I'd actually expect you to fight as either alignment tbh

just as town you'd have fucking real reads
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:18 GMT
#1396
On May 13 2015 08:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:10 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:43 sandroba wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I found yam suspicious for defending me ibn noir. I was town he was scum

More bad meta. Literally every game, the bad meta. Lynch the meta liars first

I suspect you are talking about noir 3. Did a quick skim of the game and you did no such thing.


Read obs qt or ask yam. I was lynched and immediately cashed yam scum

Sandro town now btw

##unvote
##vote xat

I must live


Why Xatalos instead of Vivax?


Xat has more votes. I'll vote whoever has the most votes and isn't me


Vivax has the same amount of votes Xatalos has after I voted him.
Vote Vivax to save yourself and lynch scum

Yamato is only berating me, he says BH isn't scum for bad usage of his role but votes BH because of the usage of his role LOL YOU'RE HILARIOUS YAMATO

you literally aren't even reading

you are a policy shot, enjoy dying tonight
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:21 GMT
#1400
On May 13 2015 08:17 Damdred wrote:
Here's the question, do we give xata more,time to prove he's town if he is?

I think,if he's highly busy as he claimed sooner or later we can,catch him big,him or cop,check him if we want.

He's scummy at this point but his,final,post seemed kinda genuine to a degree to me.

We then have BH who is kinda meh and vivax who the wagon evaporated like td and GB have said. It is concerning I'm sorta tempted to give xata a little more time and lynch vivax or bh today.

we should lynch BH

it's not even a question
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:24 GMT
#1402
On May 13 2015 08:22 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmm, so in terms of lurkers, I think batsnacks is a good shot. I think for example calling me, Trfel, and BM all town right out the gate for this reason http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24244396 doesn't really ehelp you find scum (even though he's probably right) so not sure why he'd do it. His weird filter statement and his odd reason for scumreading Sandro all stand out to me. When I thought Sandro was scum, it didn't bother me, but now that I think Sandro is town (mostly for the fact that he decided to actually do some research) I feel like bats is just pulling our leg with the blue softclaim. I think if he were a real blue he'd fabricate a case on Sandro rather than saying "sandro is scum, I habe a blue role that says so". Heck, if his blue role really says Sandro is scum, why isn't batsnacks pushing? why the vote and afk?

batsnacks is scum

deep

insightful

yes.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:30 GMT
#1414
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/434275-tl-mafia-lxiii-time-to-die?user=Blazinghand&view=all

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/431052-hogwarts-mafia?user=Blazinghand

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:33 GMT
#1417
On May 13 2015 08:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:29 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:26 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:17 Vivax wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:08 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:54 Trfel wrote:
I don't see what is so impressive about Vivax's posting as of late. His posts don't feel like they have any direction or focus, and he isn't elaborating on his main scumreads. He's pushing reads all over the place, but nothing is very well explained or detailed. Furthermore, Vivax is going to be away for a while, so there will be no more information with which to read him.

This is a good point. Leading up to the lynch, thread sentiment is steered roughly equally between Xatalos and Vivax. When Marv starts his push towards BH, votes still split roughly equally between Vivax and Xatalos. Despite Marv and Sandroba giving a less weight and push towards either Vivax or Xatalos and thinking they both may be a bit more likely to be town. Votes from the Vivax wagons disappear disproportionately faster. This can in part be attributed to Vivax being around and posting, but there were numerous people other than just Marv/Sandroba saying essentially that Vivax is posting better. Yet when you compare this situation to an exceptionally similar situation in Imperial, where Vivax went off the fucking deep end and was making series of huge posts repetitively. The wagon just disappeared in a strange way without any realisitic recognition of his posting. That's interesting.


Then go and find the people who went off me in a scummy way, cause as I see it there's nothing inherently scummy in not wanting to lynch me.

There's not time for that and it doesn't matter this late in the day. It is in no way about trying to find "the scum that unvoted their partners." It doesn't make you scum and it doesn't make Xatalos town. It's the asymmetrical shift that's interesting, both in the sense that people are more willing to move off you and that people are less willing to move off of him. What is interesting about your response is that you've ignored my point about Imperial entirely to pick at the corners of the point I'm trying to make.


I think we all kinda know what's going on here. A lot of people moved off of Vivax as soon as there was a lynchbaity wagon (my wagon) to move onto. Wagons that fall apart easily like this in non-PM games tend to be wagons on scum. I think Vivax would be an acceptable D1 lynch, but I actually haven't read his filter or his case. I'm basing this entirely on the fact that Vivax is a really good town player with heroic tier reads and pushing ability, and I haven't passively just NOTICED that he's playing well, which is what I'd expect from him

So Xatalos isn't lynch bait? You're lynch bait?


I'm obvious lynch bait. Look, JAT and Rsoultin have personal animus against me, so they're always gonna vote me (no matter what they say about cases or what not). As I said before the game, I'm not available during the first 24 hours of D1, and people didn't see the beauty of the work I did based on N0. Although I used my powers to good effect during the first half of today, Bill murray was pardoned then shot so we don't get a flip, and the people I've saved for some reason have rationalized that I'd do this as mafia (ಠ_ಠ) so here I am.

Everyone knows I have shit D1s as town where It ypically claim Blue, then N1/D2 I ramp up. People have different opinions on how skilled I am, but we all know that's how I play. I actually used my abilities REALLY well when I REALLY wouldn't have to do that as scum. And sure, I was legit straight up sheeping Palmar, but when Sandro did the townie thing I unvoted him because I'm actually trying to solve the game. Am I a snarky asshole about it? sure, yeah, that's me. But I'm going over my post limit and risking getting modkilled and banned because winning is more important to me than anything else. If I get lynched this game, I will fight, and I will fight hard enough that afterwards you will ALL look like MORONS for lynching me

and in the post game, I will call you bad.

and you will deserve it.

your strongest scumread is batsnacks

srsly
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:34 GMT
#1420
On May 13 2015 08:33 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/434275-tl-mafia-lxiii-time-to-die?user=Blazinghand&view=all

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/431052-hogwarts-mafia?user=Blazinghand

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads


"blazinghand is scum cause he's inactive and not giving reads. blazinghand, if you die, it's your fault"

*I start giving reads and playing*

"blazinghand as scum can be active and give reads you guys"

##unvote
##vote yamato77

yeah but your reads suck

you just realized sandro was town LOL

just LOL
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:36 GMT
#1424
On May 13 2015 08:35 Stutters695 wrote:
Well I've read the BH case. I could see it but it doesn't feel as sure as Vivax at all to me. Kind of reminds me of when we mislynched him in Les Mis. Iirc he couldn't be assed there to defend himself, but he started contributing towards the future even though he was dead. I kind of get that vibe here and vivax doesn't give a shit. He's easily the better lynch imo.

what is BH contributing for the future, exactly?

all I see is him devoting time and effort to arguing with me
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:36 GMT
#1428
On May 13 2015 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread

you gave ONE READ

on FUCKING BATSNACKS

probably in the bottom 3 in terms of # of posts

not impressive
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:40 GMT
#1437
On May 13 2015 08:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread

you gave ONE READ

on FUCKING BATSNACKS

probably in the bottom 3 in terms of # of posts

not impressive


So, this isn't an actual objection given that I've like, had a fair number of contributions, even if they're not literally that enormous case on Damdred I made that last game that was so long I got lynched because people didn't read it. Also, all of this is dodging the issue, which isn't how I've been playing....

it's about how your heuristic doesn't make sense. "lynch BH becasue he's inactive" is fine, but saying that WHILE saying "Bh being active is a thing scum bh does" says to ME that you aren't trying to hunt scum, because your throught process isn't progressing naturally.

no it's "lynch BH because he's not trying to find mafia"

"look he's posting things that are not finding mafia"

"look he posted a case on a >20 post player, he's still not trying to find mafia"

"look he's defending himself like he does as mafia"
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:42 GMT
#1443
On May 13 2015 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:40 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread

you gave ONE READ

on FUCKING BATSNACKS

probably in the bottom 3 in terms of # of posts

not impressive


So, this isn't an actual objection given that I've like, had a fair number of contributions, even if they're not literally that enormous case on Damdred I made that last game that was so long I got lynched because people didn't read it. Also, all of this is dodging the issue, which isn't how I've been playing....

it's about how your heuristic doesn't make sense. "lynch BH becasue he's inactive" is fine, but saying that WHILE saying "Bh being active is a thing scum bh does" says to ME that you aren't trying to hunt scum, because your throught process isn't progressing naturally.

no it's "lynch BH because he's not trying to find mafia"

"look he's posting things that are not finding mafia"

"look he posted a case on a >20 post player, he's still not trying to find mafia"

"look he's defending himself like he does as mafia"


bolded is something you didn't say, scummato

you're arguing fucking semantics instead of providing reads

whatever, you're still mafia, even if marv is bad and doesn't have the balls to lynch you

lynching viv is whatever, hero plays needed to be made and weren't zzz
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:47 GMT
#1460
On May 13 2015 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:44 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm never voting with marv

##Vote: BlazingHand

Bye

do you seriously still think i am mafia??

literally trash tier
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:49 GMT
#1470
On May 13 2015 08:48 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:45 Trfel wrote:
Does anyone want to switch to KelsierSC?

The only reason that I think he is town is meta and activity. Meta being that he was very aggressively poking at people earlier, but in his town games he tends to townread people early (this is uncertain, though, since I did not find a scum game of his where he posted early in the game).

His reads have changed with seemingly little reason and his focus has been on the wrong things. I find it hard to see his reads coming from a town mindset.

We are lynching your target and now 15 minutes before deadline you are coming up with this? Seriously?
The timing is not ideal, but deal with it. I've told you why I'm not completely sure on him, but I his weird reads as of late are really making me want to lynch him more.

ksc's reads are always terrible

he's just town
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:53 GMT
#1477
On May 13 2015 08:51 Blazinghand wrote:
oh vivax has like, a decent chance of being town, I just need to live so I'm totally down with lynching him

HOW DID WE NOT LYNCH THIS GUY

SERIOUSLY?!??
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:54 GMT
#1479
On May 13 2015 08:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:49 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:48 Trfel wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:45 Trfel wrote:
Does anyone want to switch to KelsierSC?

The only reason that I think he is town is meta and activity. Meta being that he was very aggressively poking at people earlier, but in his town games he tends to townread people early (this is uncertain, though, since I did not find a scum game of his where he posted early in the game).

His reads have changed with seemingly little reason and his focus has been on the wrong things. I find it hard to see his reads coming from a town mindset.

We are lynching your target and now 15 minutes before deadline you are coming up with this? Seriously?
The timing is not ideal, but deal with it. I've told you why I'm not completely sure on him, but I his weird reads as of late are really making me want to lynch him more.

ksc's reads are always terrible

he's just town

i agree with this, minus the insult

i have a game in mind that i can't remember right now that really heavily reminds me of his play here. i'll find it tomorrow if someone prods me. or i'll just remember

it's the one where I got scum robik lynched D1, and wave was also mafia
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 23:58 GMT
#1488
On May 13 2015 08:58 Damdred wrote:
Seriously....I'd rather not,lynch,vivax now.

Get on rsoulin

BH

KILL BH
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 13 2015 00:00 GMT
#1498
9-7

RIP viv
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