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On May 15 2015 14:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Basically for Marv to be scum, ve also has to be scum which means that they made up the whole spiel about masons for nothing. And that's easily confirmable because marv has to mason someone.
The mason speil is completely useless in regards to their alignments.
They could just mason themselves and then mason someone else, or just not mason at all and then say they did before masoning themselves.
It's a completely irrelevant factoid in regards to associative reads and should be addressed as such.
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On May 15 2015 15:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 14:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Basically for Marv to be scum, ve also has to be scum which means that they made up the whole spiel about masons for nothing. And that's easily confirmable because marv has to mason someone. The mason speil is completely useless in regards to their alignments. They could just mason themselves and then mason someone else, or just not mason at all and then say they did before masoning others. It's a completely irrelevant factoid in regards to associative reads and should be addressed as such.
Ebwop 'cuz I'm bad.
Onegu, come up with a better lynch than LS because that lynch isn't happening.
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On May 15 2015 15:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, obi, if we completely disregard the QT things, what are your reads?
Lmao I can't answer this shit at 3 AM.
I'll get back to you tomorrow. I know onegu could plausibly be town with what I've seen from him in the past but I'm in no shape to do any kind of critical thinking atm.
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On May 15 2015 23:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 23:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Morning ladies.
Why hasn't the thread run away with itself yet? I was expecting to have to catch up... I think most of the craziness happened in the first half of the day and people are taking some kind of breather. It's worth mentioning that town is in a fantastic spot, by my reckoning we have probably 3 mafia dead/dying, and maybe even 4. So we're very far ahead. My masonmafia buddies are a little split on who to lynch, but for today at least my PoE list is pretty small, because there are pretty nice reasons to call a lot of ppl town. Down to something like Obi/Oats/Onegu atm. Obi's filter looks ok honestly, he just doesn't have as much going for him as most other ppl. Oats could easily be mafia (I do still like point 1 from the GB case I originally commented on) but at least he's direct and combative. This leaves Onegu who is kinda just existing in the thread in a weird way and making kinda weird reads that don't make that much sense, but not weird enough to look town.Also his comment that if he is mafia he wouldn't be wagoned on d1/d2 feels pretty disingenuous to me - this game has been pretty fast-paced (i.e. there have been a lot of things happening), and literally the only reason he wasn't killed on d2 in XXX was because he claimed VT at the start in a meta-breaking move - his play that game was actually terrible.
What exactly does this mean? I thought Onegu's read on LS was pretty weird, but what kind of weird were you expecting?
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On May 16 2015 00:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 23:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 15 2015 23:39 marvellosity wrote:On May 15 2015 23:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Morning ladies.
Why hasn't the thread run away with itself yet? I was expecting to have to catch up... I think most of the craziness happened in the first half of the day and people are taking some kind of breather. It's worth mentioning that town is in a fantastic spot, by my reckoning we have probably 3 mafia dead/dying, and maybe even 4. So we're very far ahead. My masonmafia buddies are a little split on who to lynch, but for today at least my PoE list is pretty small, because there are pretty nice reasons to call a lot of ppl town. Down to something like Obi/Oats/Onegu atm. Obi's filter looks ok honestly, he just doesn't have as much going for him as most other ppl. Oats could easily be mafia (I do still like point 1 from the GB case I originally commented on) but at least he's direct and combative. This leaves Onegu who is kinda just existing in the thread in a weird way and making kinda weird reads that don't make that much sense, but not weird enough to look town.Also his comment that if he is mafia he wouldn't be wagoned on d1/d2 feels pretty disingenuous to me - this game has been pretty fast-paced (i.e. there have been a lot of things happening), and literally the only reason he wasn't killed on d2 in XXX was because he claimed VT at the start in a meta-breaking move - his play that game was actually terrible. What exactly does this mean? I thought Onegu's read on LS was pretty weird, but what kind of weird were you expecting? batsnacks weird :D
Nice.
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Btw, I forgot to mention it last night but I thought that TD looked better in the back-and-forth than Oats. It did kind of seem like Oats was being unreasonable.
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On May 16 2015 02:12 justanothertownie wrote:Poor thing 
-.-
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Thankfully I'm not the only one annoyed by Kelsier.
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On May 16 2015 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 02:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Btw, I forgot to mention it last night but I thought that TD looked better in the back-and-forth than Oats. It did kind of seem like Oats was being unreasonable. More like TD is over defensive and doesnt know how to read.
Dnu. Maybe. Specifically I remembered the post where you said he wasn't town, and then he broke it down and why he couldn't argue with it and it reminded me of the position I was in several games in a row.
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On May 16 2015 02:33 KelsierSC wrote:
I already gave reasons why I scumread the people I put on my list. Writing it again because you are too lazy to read filters seemed a waste.
It's like you expect us to accept the fact that you're scumreading all of us for bullshit reasons. Lmfao.
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On May 16 2015 02:36 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 02:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 16 2015 02:33 KelsierSC wrote:
I already gave reasons why I scumread the people I put on my list. Writing it again because you are too lazy to read filters seemed a waste.
It's like you expect us to accept the fact that you're scumreading all of us for bullshit reasons. Lmfao. I have no interest in anything you have to say, please refrain from talking
Wtf is this?
@Oats: Okay I guess. Idk, I'll have to look it over again.
@GB: Working on it.
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On May 16 2015 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 02:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On May 16 2015 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:On May 16 2015 02:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also keep in mind glowingbear, you are voting with someone who shot rsoultin outta the complete fucking blue and never justified it.
Does that mean if I vote who you vote you will switch? Damn, I am powerful. I am still waiting for anyone to explain how what I did was a good/reasonable move if I was scum btw. No, then you are voting with me, not the other way around. Dude you are dying anywhere, why do you care. Yeah, if I was scum I probably wouldn't care. Since I am town things are a little different though. I probably killed a mafia and admittedly trolled a little along with it. There is no need to justify my play since I was nuked instantly anyways and you will see that I was being truthful when I flip but there is reason to care about how we proceed with this game. Marv is mafia and you should vote him, kill him, murder him and burn him.
Tbh I'd be willing to consider it if you flip town, but there's no real reason to think anything of it until later because, if he is mafia, then it's going to be more obvious with time.
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On May 16 2015 03:10 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 03:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 16 2015 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:On May 16 2015 02:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On May 16 2015 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:On May 16 2015 02:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also keep in mind glowingbear, you are voting with someone who shot rsoultin outta the complete fucking blue and never justified it.
Does that mean if I vote who you vote you will switch? Damn, I am powerful. I am still waiting for anyone to explain how what I did was a good/reasonable move if I was scum btw. No, then you are voting with me, not the other way around. Dude you are dying anywhere, why do you care. Yeah, if I was scum I probably wouldn't care. Since I am town things are a little different though. I probably killed a mafia and admittedly trolled a little along with it. There is no need to justify my play since I was nuked instantly anyways and you will see that I was being truthful when I flip but there is reason to care about how we proceed with this game. Marv is mafia and you should vote him, kill him, murder him and burn him. Tbh I'd be willing to consider it if you flip town, but there's no real reason to think anything of it until later because, if he is mafia, then it's going to be more obvious with time. Why do you even assume that I am mafia? You are the one who "studied my mafia play". Are you telling me I am doing what I have done as mafia?
I'm not really assuming anything. I'm just being lazy and I know that your situation will resolve itself with time.
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GB: town
Oats: idk
TD: idk - I want Oats/TD to continue talking to each other because I'm not entirely sure what to make of that as of yet. I'll probably poke/prod them whenever and see what's up and try to figure it out. If you put a gun to my head I'd say it was TvT, just based off of the fact that I understand what they're both saying.
Marv: town probably
yamato: town - Town until he stops playing.
Kelsier: scumlean - I feel like he's being rather unreasonable and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say when he flat out tells me he doesn't care about me trying to talk to him. His scumreads are somewhat opportunistic and I feel like the reasoning behind them is rather shaky at best.
VE: townlean - Don't really see a reason to suspect him tbh.
Trfel: town - Seems like this is his bog standard play, don't really see a reason to distrust him.
Rol: idk - I know people are calling him town because he voted Palmar, but that's really not enough on its own.
Onegu: scum - Ignored LS' claim (and even then his push was lame) and has no real scumreads outside of that except for maybe yamato because of "one liners" which doesn't mean anything.
I think everyone off this list is practically resolved/claimed already which is nice.
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If we don't lynch onegu then what do we do?
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On May 16 2015 12:00 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 11:56 yamato77 wrote:
Traitor is a role that begins the game sharing a wincon with mafia but not knowing his teammates unless he correctly guesses a number of or the entire actual mafia team. OH! Oh. Oh... I thought traitors were mafia that had to kill a mafia in order to win the game. Heh. Heheheh. God this is embarassing.
lol
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Why are you so obsessed over killing marv over, say, Kelsier?
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On May 16 2015 14:10 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 14:07 yamato77 wrote:
trfel
I would shoot trfel
I still don't really think marv is mafia Because...?
Marv hates being scum and it becomes more and more obvious as time goes on.
It's hard to lynch marv just because of that simple fact.
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On May 16 2015 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Practically everyone's activity in the game has died off, marv /ve/yamato /rol /stutters / kel / ls/trfel.
Not all these people can be scum so the activity dying off isn't a scumtell
Yeah I don't think stutters/rol have ever been super active either.
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