On May 12 2015 09:09 Trfel wrote: Actually, now that I think about it again, maybe I could still lynch Bill Murray....
That's fine and all, but none of the reasons you posted are conclusive for a player like BM.
It is a policy lynch, plain and simple. I generally don't do policy lynches.
Did you read his Student Mafia VIII filter like I asked?
In that game, he was actually being mostly reasonable and trying to solve the game. In this game, his /in post said that he would not be disruptive. I don't see Bill Murray suddenly deciding to ignore everyone, including his town reads and randomly nuke two players and only then listen to people, given that he showed that he is willing to discuss with people and said that he would not be disruptive this game.
I was a TOWNIE in that game i am a BLUE role this game Townies DO NOT spotlight
Been catching up on some pages I've missed. I'm a little bit behind on reading. I am going to go back and fill in the blanks with what we need to do to win this game. Well, if I get to live long enough to do anything to help you guys.
Trfel, I wish we could be friends. There are just some differences between us. I want to point something out, and it's another reason I don't like your play. Trfel, you take thread sentiment (Cases on Xatalos, Onegu) and you pass it off as if you created them. Your case on Xatalos is probably coming from Rsoultin Your case on Onegu would probably be less of a reach than if it was coming from me Your case on me is regurgitated from TD.
Just don't take that too harsh. I'm sorry I have a nuke going at you, potentially, but it is what it is.
On May 12 2015 10:51 GlowingBear wrote: Lol Yamato, pls
TD said exactly what I said, but in a more wordy paragraph.
Like, pls.
Bill Murray won't be lynched today.
I'm starting to be suspicious of Kelsen for reasons unknown. Gut feelings
No, he didn't, and that's why you'll always be bad.
Is it unanimous that my reads are bad? If so, I'll stick to single player since nobody will hear me. I will deliver reads and vote and use my super powerful role, but won't be arsed to engage interactions.
I thought rsoul was posting this, and I was really impressed with her, and then... it wasn't her LOL
The only defense I need is the timing of when I shot my nukes. I wanted to either fire my nukes during the early or late portions of the cycle. If you look at the cycle as the twin turbine engines of a Boeing 747, it's the risky portions! Takeoff and Landing... That's a bad example. If you look at my nukes as a woman, I wanted it to be her eyes. You see, I didn't expect to make it out of the night. Why would I? I always get killed Night 1. The last 3 games I've played I've gotten N1, and now I'm get to get D1ed when I was to be getting to flip someone I thought was scum. I have meta on Trfel and his play is different this game than last. If he active lurks as mafia like he does as town (most mafia do) then he's fucking mafia.
My first nuke was fired in my first post of the cycle. I wanted to create discussion, and I was firing based upon (at the time) my strongest scumread. I had been reading filters, and the moment I saw Trfel's meager 1 post, I didn't even have to read it to think he was scum. It was just completely a content difference from the last game I played in when we both got killed Night 1 as town together. I thought he was scum that game, too... Bad of me, but everyone makes mistakes, just like I did here. My Nuke was fired during takeoff! My real rocket, at Trufel, I posted it in my first post! I wanted to go ahead and get shit out in the open. If you have a hindrance you claim it, you let people know. I guess I should have told everyone that I had nukes... but what if people didn't want me to fire it? what if you guys just started to vote me and i didnt get to fire it at all? that wasnt going to fly. What if I had explained to the people that didn't know me that I am really bad at town and used to be policy lynched for my play which is much like this that is happening to me right now. I am having memories of 5 years ago when RebirthofLegend, LSB, and Jackal58 would spam "Policy lynch BM" just to be utter dickheads to me which wasn't fucking cool at all.
I guess we're all finding out the hard way, huh. Scum would fire that nuke in the middle of the day, in the middle of the game, in the middle of the night. They wouldn't fire it instantly because they are gonna be worried about getting lynched. The nature of having to nuke someone like that, if I had to do it as scum, I would just wait towards the end of the game. I get killed N1 the last 2 times I've been helpful here. Now, I'm getting lynched D1 for being unhelpful, but know that I bagged a scum even with my play. If my nukes don't land, we lynch Blazinghand. Think about it, and I know this is illogical, but it's just the way that mafia games are created. I got a couple nukes, a fake one, and a real one. Blazinghand has a role that shoots nukes down...............................................................!. and even then my fake one (at marv). What a vile, insufferable, evil murdering partypooper!
My 2nd nuke, which was directed towards marv, wasn't real. He was pressuring me, and I knew I had a fake nuke left. I was like hmm. I'll act like America during WW2, and I'll do a 2nd A-bomb to get people to surrender to my will. I figured if I threw out another nuke, everyone would be scared of me that I would nuke them too and that they wouldn't vote me. Alone, and hated, everything backfired; such is life when you live in the spotlight. People who were once your friends are the first wolves at the door. ►Et tu, ows?
I just don't want to get killed in the first damn cycle again. Come on, guys. I want to help lynch people and make good cases on people. please
##Vote: Onegu AtE, IIoA, Said he wanted to be traitor, then directly said he wasn't traitor, and you can refer to my earlier post on the matter if you want to read more about it. I am going to go filter him and see if I want to change my mind before I go to bed... which I'm really doing this time... but you guys really need to get off my wagon. I want to help, and this isn't helping..
I'll get to this game in a few hours at the latest. I am sorry for my absence today, I'll be better during the week than on weekends.
The purpose of this post is to ensure that I comply with the "one post every 24 hours" rule. Meanwhile, enjoy some music.
So Trfel makes excuses "ill be absent" "this post it so ensure that i comply with the one post every 24 hours rule" then he posts a video... cool. really beneficial before this all he had done was harass people
Then I nuke him for behaving like this, which didnt fit how he played last game as town
WITHIN AN HOUR of him "fulfilling his daily post on mothers day", he posts:
On May 11 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote: You're kidding me.
You nuked me for low activity on a weekend, and Mothers' Day?
I really hope you are not town here, because you being town would really kill my motivation to play this game. I mean, if you're going to give the majority of your posts for the first 24 hours away, you really shouldn't be killing me for not playing in a 24 hour period.
And not only that, but he wants to misrepresent what happened He instead attacks me NOT for me nuking him, but wants to lie and come up with some bullshit excuse to basically omgus me
1) he tries to nuke me in return that doesnt work 2) he votes me 3) he then proceeded to ask me if i have any more nukes after unvoting 4) he finds out i have no more nukes 5) he votes me again
this guy isnt enjoyable to play with, and his behavior is self serving and scummy as fuck
1) he was actively lurking and lied so he tried to nuke me 1 a. He realizes he has to OMGUS 2) he OMGUSes me , but like I said he did it in a way that made it appear like he wasn't. He wanted to say he was voting me due to my giving my posts to Damdred as opposed to me actually nuking. Get real. He's just sheeping Geript (TD) with that sentiment which is what scum due. They take whatever is prevalent and easy in the thread and push it as their own agenda that's what Trfel is doing. Trfel is scum 3-5) He unvotes me more than once. He unvotes me at this juncture and then revotes me based upon the logic of "I don't want to die" Self preservation is a scum lean. It makes the case on him stronger. 3-5) a. If I recall he unvotes me another time to "build a case" on me. If anything I have been looking more and more town. I don't post with this amount of content as scum in any game that I have ever been scum. My posting is highly consistent with me having a blue role, including me 1) fucking up and 2) getting pressured like I did as Inventor in PYP 2
This isn't even the beginning of the case on him from my eyes/soul. My case is meta, but I have to be able to put that into words you guys can follow. I seem to be having difficulty doing that this game thusfar. I have presented you with scum on a silver platter already in Onegu, do not fail to heed my warnings on Trfel; I have been pushing him / nuking him all day for a reason. I really, really hope BH is trolling and Trfel flips scum before this phase is up so you guys can see that I am 100% trying to win this game. I am very, very frustrated.
On May 12 2015 14:07 Trfel wrote: Actually.... RebirthOfLeGenD just ninja-voted (well, he explained it like 12 hours ago).
Why is he present enough to vote in the voting thread, but not to read/post in this thread? I heard justanothertownie say that he can be extremely lazy as town, can someone confirm if this is true? Otherwise I could very easily lynch him.
You can really stop attacking my playstyle with things that are obviously false.... my play has an extremely large number of flaws, and believe me, I'm more aware of them than anyone else.
Mine does too. There was a time I gave my posts away, and was actively reading the entire thread. I was reading it enough to find your posting to be different than it was when you were green last game
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I don't have a case on Xatalos, and I never said I did? I don't have a case on Onegu, and I never said I did? I have a small case on you, certainly built on what others have posted, however I have taken additional efforts to show why your play fits a mafia motivation. So you're accusing me of being a flawed player for doing things which I'm going to do?!?!
you were listing those names... my wording came across wrong, as you are the second person who has gotten confused about this. What I was saying was if you built a case on Onegu or Xatalos, both who have thread sentiment against them, it would be X, not that it IS X. I wasn't saying what you think I was saying, basically.. "Oh, it's rsoultin, we can't lynch her D1" .... Why not? That is why I refuse to play the way that I did whenever I was one of the better players here. I am not going to just ease down the lazy river and lose the entire game for everyone. I want to give people something to talk about at least. I don't want to lynch rsoultin for usual reasons and it's something that I wouldn't even normally talk about... but I feel like she is potentially scumbuddying me to get me to not vote for her later, if that happens. However, she seems like town in that her play seems a little more giving and less terse as scum.
Bill Murray, why are you voting for Onegu instead of your other scumreads?
Well, I feel like he slipped. I go with slips before anything else. After I get a good vote out, and someone reacts poorly, like he did with his AtE to rsoultin, that's when I really hammer the nail home.
why do you think that my filter (at the time of you firing your nuke) was only one post, when it was actually four, and ignore the fourth post saying that I would get back to the game the very evening you fired?
I got confused and literally thought you had only had 1 post in the cycle. I've gone back and read it whenever I forced a case on you, against my better judgment, just to look better for the thread [sorry for my hypocrisy]
But I almost can't see scum playing with such obvious lies... it makes me more inclined to think that he somehow completely missed 75% of my filter and is unable to understand my post on him (despite the TLDR), and if that is true maybe Bill Murray is town here. And while it's extremely frustrating, I don't think that Bill Murray would attack my playstyle when it is not at all necessary (and is false).
This just feels so close to what I felt about YOU that is it crazy. I was frustrated, I thought you were lying, and I really was beginning to feel like you were mafia; I had convinced myself of that.
On May 12 2015 09:02 TalkingDead wrote: Reposted because it's relevant and people seem to have dropped the idea entirely.
However, the person that I find the most interesting is Oatsmaster. Generally what I've seen from Oatsmaster as town is that he's abrasive and does his own thing. Whereas in this game, he tends to just follow what's going on with thread sentiment. Specifically:
On May 11 2015 08:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Sandros shit seems really planned out and fake.
Like this post right,
On May 11 2015 05:36 sandroba wrote: marvellosity's intro is another one that I found pretty meh as well. I would expect more inquiries from him, maybe all condensed into a single post to adapt to the post cap. Instead I found nothing besides a read that I dissagree with. I'm going to keep an eye on him.
marv doesnt do that.
And a scumread for not posting is pretty bad considering the general lack of content.
And i really fucking hate lists posts man, seriously dont post a huge list of nonsense. Talkingdead especially.
On May 11 2015 09:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Gb is town guys. Unless he faked that shit like super super well.
Sandro, talking deads list post was the most recent and longest one, why not point it out? Also, the tone of your posts is very structured, and the questions you ask seem to be more for show than actually gaining alignment relevant information
On May 11 2015 12:40 Oatsmaster wrote: OK saw the longass post.
That's a bad post. Mainly because of one point.
When td compares the difference between town-town, he says that they will be able to rethink their reads. But in his town-scum analysis, he said that one of them will keep beating a dead horse, specifying that it might be either. So since they don't know each others alignments, the town - scum scenario he proposes could happen with town - town too. So in conclusion, td is bullshitting his town-town read cause he got caught.
On May 11 2015 12:20 sandroba wrote: If I'm wrong about this TD thing, which certainly I'm considering, I think Oats and yamato both look quite bad. I'm feeling better about damdred already.
I can understand the yamato read.
Why Oats?
Random read on me which is illogical and nitpicky. Random defense of marv.
You are town. Marv is not scum yet.
The thing is though that Sandroba's points on me haven't really changed for the most part. It's been spread on the same set of things for the most part. So there's no real clear reason for the change from "made up fake shit" to "great read." The's also really not a clear reason for Sandroba going from town to mafia.
Then after marvellosity makes his large post, Oats seems to drop everything and switch to BillMurray. He had previously fingered BillMurray for seemingly no reason (it was before either nuke). Rather, Oats just seems to follow the thread sentiment and look to blend. He has only hints at why his reads are and there's no discernible progression. That in my experience is scum!Oats.
I just read this post and I was like is talking dead literally copy pasting things
well you know what, I did the exact same thing with my case on Onegu so +townpoints for talkingdead
EPT
