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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 12 2015 23:42 GMT
#1444
On May 13 2015 08:41 KelsierSC wrote:
I think BH has proved he is town with his posting here. Comparing it to xatalos or vivax especially.

with xatalos, still my top scum read but i haven't convinced people

reading vivax again, i sort of agree with hts post, he hasn't really done anything that makes me want to keep him alive I liked one early post of his but he has been pretty lazy. I also really like trefls post.

if marv , HTS and GB like a vivax lynch..i'm ok with that and I want to keep BH alive over vivax for sure. leaving my vote on xatalos accomplishes nothing at this point.

##unvote
##vote: vivax

ergh ugly post that is completely unneeded justification for the switch.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 00:06 GMT
#1502
Life is tough.
Trfel posted some interesting things trying to distance himself from the lunch though
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 00:14 GMT
#1506
My point was that you kept saying vivax was town, sorry vivas, let's lynch someone else when it was way too late to get the numbers to switch.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 01:30 GMT
#1512
Kiel, how did I float under the rader?

Yamato looks scummy as fuck for not saying anything other than lynch bh multiple times.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 01:47 GMT
#1517
Hm weird my bad, saw bats and obi and combined them.

Obi, explain why BH is scum, ignoring anti nuke play.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 02:09 GMT
#1523
On May 13 2015 11:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 10:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hm weird my bad, saw bats and obi and combined them.

Obi, explain why BH is scum, ignoring anti nuke play.


Because he was being useless while hiding behind his role, which pretty much summed up my experience with him in Aperture where he was my scummate. Most of his EoD reads looked fake (in regards to calling rsoultin scum because of "emoticons") and it seemed like he was only playing to save himself while he looked totally apathetic beforehand.

I get that town will try to survive a lynch, but it really seemed like BH just didn't care about what was going on beforehand.

If you ignore anti-nuke play, what else did he have?

Nothing.

Actually thats true, BH is able to just shit content as both alignments.

I guess we see if the content is valid or not
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 02:12 GMT
#1524
On May 13 2015 11:05 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 10:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kiel, how did I float under the rader?

Yamato looks scummy as fuck for not saying anything other than lynch bh multiple times.


you're mafia

and so is BH

Go on, give actual reasons for at least one of your reads.

From what I read, your BH read was that "hes not doing anything".
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 02:20 GMT
#1527
i liked the post trefl and HTS made on vivax and other people on my town list had also voted him.
I didn't want to waste my vote.

I really dont like that Kiel feels the need to qualify his switch by saying other people did it.

Coupled with his post when he switched. Not good.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 02:41 GMT
#1530
On May 13 2015 11:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Thank you, Onegu.

Marv, oats, BH and LS are most likely Mafia. In this order. I'll make a post with four cases in it. And this time I will really do it.

Yamato, am I town? Answer me win reasoning, please.

What is this garbage man.
First you use your pardon super unreasonably then you come up with a completely bullshit scumlist that makes no sense at all.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 02:42 GMT
#1531
On May 13 2015 11:20 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 11:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 13 2015 11:05 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 10:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kiel, how did I float under the rader?

Yamato looks scummy as fuck for not saying anything other than lynch bh multiple times.


you're mafia

and so is BH

Go on, give actual reasons for at least one of your reads.

From what I read, your BH read was that "hes not doing anything".

oh, oats...

Oh yamato...
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 05:58 GMT
#1537
1) The hard to fake thing is your confusion surrounding the way n0 and the scumteam works. So if you were scum, you would obviously not be confused. So thats an easy townread.

2) My reads changed throughout d1, I always thought BM was scum and voting with thread sentiment is hardly scummy by itself. I dont see the point in voting Xata when Im perfectly happy with BM dying. When you pardon BM, I dont think BH is scum anymore so that point is wrong. And I made a perfectly good case on Xata that is still valid man. Thats pushing. And he did get a decent amount of votes. I switched later to Vivax because it was clear that Xata wasnt getting lynched and BH was more strongly town than Vivax.

3)I dont see the contradiction between having BM and BH on the same scumteam if only the first nuke was shot.
My hypothetical situation was hypothetical and it didnt go anywhere, boo.
My reasoning behind BM was that a townie that cares wouldnt have shot 2 nukes day 1.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 05:59 GMT
#1538
TD hasnt posted much of note recently but Im not gonna push him unless he starts posting more so I can talk to him.

Xata and BM are obvious Vigs and nightkills btw guys.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 06:44 GMT
#1540
apparently I was blind.

Ok then, kill Xata.

Trfel's town meta read on Kiel almost seems too good.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 07:17 GMT
#1542
On May 13 2015 12:04 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 10:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Trfel, talk to me in detail because I've kind of been away from the thread: why is KSC town?
It's a meta read. Scum meta comparisons being Game of Thrones Mini Mafia and Carol of the Bells, town meta comparison being Mini Mafia Down Under (1, not 2).

As town, KelsierSC opens the game by poking and prodding at people. He's generally moderately active is aggressive with his reads.

In contrast, KelsierSC isn't very active as scum. In both of the scum games I looked at, he started the game late (I don't know if this is a trend or coincidence). However, he generally townread most people early on, but made sure to have one scumread.

His activity and number of scumreads make him mafia here. It's just so distinct from his normal scum play, and in a way that matches his town play very closely. I still feel that he is making a large number of scumreads and doesn't seem to care between them (scummy because he is giving himself a wide pool to lynch from), and his read progression doesn't always make sense to me, but it isn't bad enough that it outweighs his meta clearly indicating that he is town.

bolded is town not mafia right?

Your post here is pretty good but it feels a lot like you know hes town and then are giving a bunch of reasons why rather than the other way around. I think that this read wont be so certain if you are town basically.

A townBM as he has played over the last day would not have shot those nukes.
Shooting nukes is crazy town. BM is clearly not crazy. Therefore he is scum.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 08:03 GMT
#1544
On May 13 2015 16:20 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 16:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 13 2015 12:04 Trfel wrote:
On May 13 2015 10:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Trfel, talk to me in detail because I've kind of been away from the thread: why is KSC town?
It's a meta read. Scum meta comparisons being Game of Thrones Mini Mafia and Carol of the Bells, town meta comparison being Mini Mafia Down Under (1, not 2).

As town, KelsierSC opens the game by poking and prodding at people. He's generally moderately active is aggressive with his reads.

In contrast, KelsierSC isn't very active as scum. In both of the scum games I looked at, he started the game late (I don't know if this is a trend or coincidence). However, he generally townread most people early on, but made sure to have one scumread.

His activity and number of scumreads make him mafia here. It's just so distinct from his normal scum play, and in a way that matches his town play very closely. I still feel that he is making a large number of scumreads and doesn't seem to care between them (scummy because he is giving himself a wide pool to lynch from), and his read progression doesn't always make sense to me, but it isn't bad enough that it outweighs his meta clearly indicating that he is town.

bolded is town not mafia right?

Your post here is pretty good but it feels a lot like you know hes town and then are giving a bunch of reasons why rather than the other way around. I think that this read wont be so certain if you are town basically.

A townBM as he has played over the last day would not have shot those nukes.
Shooting nukes is crazy town. BM is clearly not crazy. Therefore he is scum.
Why do you say that Bill Murray is not crazy?

Everything other than his nukes makes it seem like he is trying to play the game and isnt INSANE.
anyway, hes dead. NEW TOPIC??

Like why you dont want to kill Xatalos
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 08:37 GMT
#1546
I really dont think following thread sentiment is anywhere near a scumtell as everyone is trying to say.
What about his reaction to BM and the whole "DOES HE CARE ABOUT LYNCHING SCUM" thing?

He doesnt care about lynching scum and he has weird fucking reactions to shit.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 09:07 GMT
#1548
And I think that it is good to lynch the traitor. Xatalos's push on Onegu isn't the only thing he's done this game.

It was like 3 posts without even an attempt to engage anyone other than Onegu. Hardly a 'push'.

Also scumslip?

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#1564
If marv says it's not good, he might actually be scum.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 15:16 GMT
#1574
On May 13 2015 23:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 23:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
If marv says it's not good, he might actually be scum.

Just to be clear - are you saying the case on you is good?

no.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 13 2015 15:18 GMT
#1576
BTW Im always town when I get scumread day 1.
Not kidding.

Every single time.
No gg, No skill.
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