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On May 11 2015 22:09 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 22:01 KelsierSC wrote:Sandro, can you explain something to me. On May 11 2015 07:20 sandroba wrote:
@damdred any comments on what I've said about TD? I feel that I made a pretty strong point. And regarding about me saying what other people stated I'm reading the thread for the first time and I've shared my thoughts. I don't think anyone else has adressed the issues I've adressed in quite the same way and if somehow I've missed it and they share my feelings I'm glad that they do. I'm kinda on the fence about you because you've said so much, but I can't help but feel like a lot that you've said doesn't make much sense/ doesn't add up/ looks like fake content. It might as well be that you are town producing huge amounts of BS to try to look town, which I don't think is a particularly good strategy, however the way you've adressed the suspicions saying acting scummy was all a part of a plan I'm having a hard time buying into.
The person I feel most strongly about is TD and I would like you to share your thoughts on him/ what I've said about him. On May 11 2015 05:59 sandroba wrote:
@LS this post was by talkinghead if you cared to read, but maybe my formating is not the best. Anyone who read it will know that I'm very suspicious of both TD and damdred. I didn't say anything about GB in my posts but if you must know I think GB is town. On May 11 2015 10:14 sandroba wrote:
GB is my top town read so far, pretty much every single post he's made I agree with. I believe any questioning pointed towards him at this point is just a waste of space and we should be talking about TD and damdred instead. so here you are suspicous of damdred, calling him scum want to talk about him , then earlier marv had said this On May 10 2015 20:17 marvellosity wrote:
hey Kels. Why does anything you say about TalkingDead make him mafia, deary?
This postcount thing making people just list reads feels really weird :p I have Damdred as towny and GB as scumweird for calling him mafia and not a lot else just yet. and followed up later with On May 11 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote:ok, so just read through the loltastic nuke + anti-nuke. I don't really get why people let this sort of thing slide. Also if BH was going to anti-nuke the nuke, I don't know why he did it so soon, it seems really information-restrictive. Essentially it means we should by lynching BM. On May 11 2015 13:10 Bill Murray wrote:
TalkingDead
Oatsmaster
HalftheSky
I've read all three of you pushing suspicions my way
When I bag scum with this (Trfel was super active last game, and is literally just skimping by posting to not put his neck out there this game) I want you all to bow down to me.
##Nuke: Trfel BM being BM or not being BM, the bolded reasoning is just nonsense. Game's barely started. Why launch the nuke so soon? There's no reason for it. Time and time again in Ver games mafia are forgiven for really terrible in-thread plays on the basis it's too terrible to be scum. Except it's just ballsy yolo with the expectation of not being punished. Giving posts unannounced to Damdred was also very weird. tldr; terrible shot based on terrible reason, no sweepy under carpetty pls. I don't think this is a town nuke. ##Vote: Bill Murray
Random other things - sandroba looks better than other games lately, reads are more indepth, also I like performing a sexy naked dance while his eye is on me My early damdy read good readTalkingDead lynch bad lynch On May 10 2015 09:57 Onegu wrote:
Man I really hope I get the traitor just realized I can get that. Then I can be scum!!! Onegu may be mafia, the multiple !!! seem really OTT and follows up with this random post directed at a bunch of people with no meaning behind it in response to this post you say On May 11 2015 20:50 sandroba wrote:
@marv I agree with all your points (BM, onegu, damdred), but I'm having a hard time with the TD town read so if you could go into a little more detail maybe I can be convinced and get over it. The only thing that actually gave me pause was that he insinuated something that I think damdred caught onto as well. meaning you agree that dam is town now, i'm not really sure where this sudden change came from. Then you said you agree with the point marv raised on dam but all he said was that he called him town earlier , it wasn't really a point as to why damdred is town. It would be good if you could flesh this out because it seems like you are contradicting yourself just to read dam as town. I changed my mind on damdred quite some time ago and have said so already. I was saying that I agree with some of his reads, but I would actually like him to elaborate on something because I have a really bad feeling about his posting so far. His reads all seem very shallow and direct, he doesn't seem to be considering other angles, is very dismissive, disconected from the game like he doesn't really care about the outcome and lacking emotion I usually see in his games as town. Not sure if I really answered your question, but I was really trying to get something out of marv without getting on his face to see how he would interact with me. So far I'm displeased.
hmm ok I guess that makes sense, the question to marv part.
what made you change your mind about damdred, the thing I saw was that if you were wrong about TD then you would feel better about damdred, so did you change your mind on TD?
or is my reading just bad and you just feel better about damdred regardless. i'm referring to this post.
On May 11 2015 12:20 sandroba wrote:
If I'm wrong about this TD thing, which certainly I'm considering, I think Oats and yamato both look quite bad. I'm feeling better about damdred already.
if so can you explain what changed your mind on damdred then
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i realise i'm nearing post limit so going to summarise.
but firstly
##unvote
##vote Bill Murray
because random nuking trefl, getting overly defensive when someone calls them mafia for it, and then nuking that person is just so horrendous he is scum and should get the fuck out of the game.
aside from that
town
HTS
GB
Dam
RS
VE
BH
Marv
Sand
Palmar (don't why, just like him i guess)
would lynch
BM
TD
Xat
JAT
LS
Vixax, Stutters, RoL and other AFK's
everyone else is pretty null to me
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On May 12 2015 03:37 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 03:36 LightningStrike wrote:On May 12 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote:On May 12 2015 03:33 LightningStrike wrote:
God damn it Marv is looking townie and now he getting nuked................ Jesus BM got a nuking addiction problem here.(Cuddles next to rsoultin) Tina I have you town but can you please don't be so mean to Damdred even if he's rude to you? <3
Okay Xata is starting to pick up (He's wrong on my alignment and so is Damdred and JAT -_-) and looks okay but wouldn't lynch him Day 1 just yet. Also we don't seem to get the crazy calling everyone Mafia town Vivax here and he could be scum just for that. Anyone else agree with me about my Vivax read? What is your vivax read? why would you want to lynch someone you think looks ok? My vivax read is scum. I would lynch someone that looks ok if there isn't any other choices to go for. Most people have vivax as scum though. Why though? Someone always looks worse than others, do you think xata is town?
a lot of people had vivax scum for not posting though
since he posted rs and obi have both called vivax as town
no way BM is town , lynch with fire.
i'm hating xatalos more and more with each post, everything is very safe and it's kind of boring reading him, going along with thread sentiment, he wants to lynch LS and the only other reads he has given, which he had to be asked for, have been leans either way, not impressed.
i would lynch LS aswell but it just feels like an easy read for him to give.
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edit - i made that post before xatalos gave his list, let me read it and see how I feel
more thread sentiment it seems to me and nothing particularly strong
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On May 12 2015 03:46 rsoultin wrote:
18/60
you're saying tmi
you'd have to be braindead to think marv is scum at this juncture
be useful vivax
burning through posts -_- going to actually finish my term papers now...vote is on vivax, could change to bm with little persuasion just cause if someone that dumb has nukes don't really care if he's town or not -_- onegu would be a good lynch too but i don't expect that to fly over the others right now...i've stopped expecting people to pay the slightest attention to my scumreads unless they're wrong \o/
I thought you called vivax town. after he posted good morning,
what changed?
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On May 12 2015 03:57 Bill Murray wrote:
I guess I'm just going to keep my vote on Vivax. I was the first to call him out on not posting for 3 days and what he has done since coming back has been 2nd worse in the entire thread
I realize my play this game has been shit and put an easy target on my back for the mafia
I'd like to point out that Onegu is clearly anti town too if you want to look into that
ok, I think we can leave the nuke discussion for now, BM is either mafia or an idiot so probably going to lynch him but don't need to discuss it.
does anyone have thoughts on Obi, Oats and Bats?
they're in the game and posted a bit but no one has really bothered to give a read on them
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On May 12 2015 04:00 Xatalos wrote:
Could lynch Vivax so far. He hasn't done much and what he's done is sheeping thread sentiment on myself and randomly scumreading Damdred for a pretty far-fetched reason. Both targets for suspicion-spreading are probably town. I think his scum meta was being useless which fits here well enough.
Not really sold on TD. I think his reads seem decent enough and he's put in some effort. How exactly is he "blending in" or something?
I'm actually inclined to think Vivax is town.
mostly because of this post
On May 12 2015 02:52 Vivax wrote:
On my read so far I also had the feeling JAT was mafia but I really had nothing I could justify it with. On the other hand lots of people seem to think the same but I will need to find something tangible on my own.
The nuke business was pretty interesting. Trfel was in the scummish list of BH during N0 and D1 BH didn't really bother to even figure his alignment out before deciding the anti-nuke. He only asked a question but doesn't seem puzzled about whether he should use it or not.
which I think is a pretty good observation.
I think he has asked some good questions and you know he hasn't just gone along with the thread, not everyone is calling you mafia so I don't know if that would be thread sentiment and mafia reading damdred is a guy thinking on his own imo.
I played with vivax a few times but he was out of his mind on pain killers during that , he seems relaxed here so I wouldn't lynch him.
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why is anyone giving posts to this idiot?
bh is town , stopping nukes hitting marv is a pro town move.
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On May 12 2015 06:22 Bill Murray wrote:
I feel like Blazinghand's role is completely bullshit
it's like I don't even have a role.
feel like BM claimed mafia with this post even though I can't put it into words why.
wording feels off I guess
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Damdred I would slam vote Xatalos along with you right now but doesn't trefl get nuked if that happens, aint saying I love trefl but doesn't seem right to let that happen.
I like onegu though, wouldn't lynch
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On May 12 2015 07:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Give me one reason BH is town other than protecting a guy this early without even knowing his role.
I can't see BH's anti nuke coming from town perspective. His double standards on truffle and marv, and the decision of immediately stopping BM's nuke instead of further inspecting truffles nuke is too scummy.
If truffle is town, BH was trying to get town cred
If truffle is Mafia, BH was protecting a scum partner.
I can't see his reaction to the first nuke coming from a town perspective, specially when he asks for permission to palmar.
i thought he asked palmar about the second nuke
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On May 12 2015 07:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Give me one reason BH is town other than protecting a guy this early without even knowing his role.
I can't see BH's anti nuke coming from town perspective. His double standards on truffle and marv, and the decision of immediately stopping BM's nuke instead of further inspecting truffles nuke is too scummy.
If truffle is town, BH was trying to get town cred
If truffle is Mafia, BH was protecting a scum partner.
I can't see his reaction to the first nuke coming from a town perspective, specially when he asks for permission to palmar.
I think it's just not correct to say you "can't see it coming from a town perspective" maybe he judged trefl was town and decided not to let him get hit by a nuke. that feels townie to me.
some people are saying it isn't "optimal" because more info could have been gathered, whilst I agree I don't think that makes BH scummy. in the heat of the moment he saved someone he thought was town.
for the second nuke he waited a while and then decided to anti it, more in line with an optimal play, that nuke was terrible marv is clear town so that is a pro town move from BH. If BH is mafia it may have made sense to wait it out even longer and see if someone who is town uses an anti nuke to save marv. he can claim he has none left.
i don't really see the double standard, if people complain he acted to rashly with the first anti, to wait on the second.
I disagree with your analysis
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Onegu, what do you think about the names being thrown about today
xat, TD, BM , LS, vivax
be good to hear what you get if you still have brain cells
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On May 12 2015 07:52 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 07:39 KelsierSC wrote:On May 12 2015 07:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Give me one reason BH is town other than protecting a guy this early without even knowing his role.
I can't see BH's anti nuke coming from town perspective. His double standards on truffle and marv, and the decision of immediately stopping BM's nuke instead of further inspecting truffles nuke is too scummy.
If truffle is town, BH was trying to get town cred
If truffle is Mafia, BH was protecting a scum partner.
I can't see his reaction to the first nuke coming from a town perspective, specially when he asks for permission to palmar. I think it's just not correct to say you "can't see it coming from a town perspective" maybe he judged trefl was town and decided not to let him get hit by a nuke. that feels townie to me. some people are saying it isn't "optimal" because more info could have been gathered, whilst I agree I don't think that makes BH scummy. in the heat of the moment he saved someone he thought was town. for the second nuke he waited a while and then decided to anti it, more in line with an optimal play, that nuke was terrible marv is clear town so that is a pro town move from BH. If BH is mafia it may have made sense to wait it out even longer and see if someone who is town uses an anti nuke to save marv. he can claim he has none left. i don't really see the double standard, if people complain he acted to rashly with the first anti, to wait on the second. I disagree with your analysis Consider yourself with the anti nuke ability. You see a town read with one page of filter getting nuked after 48 hours. You don't know anyone's alignment (you're town, duh). Will you further investigate this guy alignment to decide if you really waste your anti nuke or you immediately use it and shut down thread progression? Only a guy with perfect information would react that way. To me, Kelsen, BH asked Palmar's permission so he could blame Palmar once marv flips read. This is somehow approaching WIFOM territory, but very plausible.
yes I understand that point, but I have also presented a case where BH is town, saying "you just can't see it being town" isn't true
consider yourself as mafia, someone nukes marv! who is likely town here, you can claim that you have no anti nukes left, but instead you decide to save him? that doesn't make sense to me.
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either way BH is not the lynch today.
for me
it is BM, xat , LS or Td
of those i'm least sure on LS because I pretty much always read him as scum and he has autism or something. I think he is trying pretty hard so probably take him off the list
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@Onegu
I think it would be best for all if you stopped defending yourself and gave a few reads
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lol bh response best thing in the thread so far
i cant unvote until the marv nuke is shot down confirmed has that happened?
if you kill marv then you guna die
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On May 12 2015 08:33 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 08:27 KelsierSC wrote:
lol bh response best thing in the thread so far
i cant unvote until the marv nuke is shot down confirmed has that happened?
if you kill marv then you guna die the hosts haven't posted it in the thread yet but I assume it will happen shortly
slackers
can we lynch TD, that sounds good
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can BM call off nukes? I don't really want trefl to get nuked
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On May 12 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 08:44 KelsierSC wrote:
can BM call off nukes? I don't really want trefl to get nuked Why would Trfel,get nuked
didn't BM launch a 3rd nuke at trefl but it didnt go through yet because bm is vote leader
am i mental?
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