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On May 11 2015 22:20 KelsierSC wrote:
i realise i'm nearing post limit so going to summarise.
but firstly
##unvote
##vote Bill Murray
because random nuking trefl, getting overly defensive when someone calls them mafia for it, and then nuking that person is just so horrendous he is scum and should get the fuck out of the game.
aside from that
town
HTS
GB
Dam
RS
VE
BH
Marv
Sand
Palmar (don't why, just like him i guess)
would lynch
BM
TD
Xat
JAT
LS
Vixax, Stutters, RoL and other AFK's
everyone else is pretty null to me
Why are you reading me as town?
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On May 11 2015 22:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 22:28 GlowingBear wrote:On May 11 2015 22:20 KelsierSC wrote:
i realise i'm nearing post limit so going to summarise.
but firstly
##unvote
##vote Bill Murray
because random nuking trefl, getting overly defensive when someone calls them mafia for it, and then nuking that person is just so horrendous he is scum and should get the fuck out of the game.
aside from that
town
HTS
GB
Dam
RS
VE
BH
Marv
Sand
Palmar (don't why, just like him i guess)
would lynch
BM
TD
Xat
JAT
LS
Vixax, Stutters, RoL and other AFK's
everyone else is pretty null to me
Why are you reading me as town? Idk, you don't really sound like a bitch and you really are a bitch when you're mafia. Oh you weren't asking me were you?
No. Bitch.
Tell me once you've already caught up with the thread, I'd love some thoughts from you.
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Kelsen, can you please tell me what is your updated read on LS?
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I'm at the gym. Once I get home I promise I'll read the thread properly and do a consolidated reads post
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Just give your reads, JAT.
You must have some at this point
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BH explain to me why stopping truffles nuke immediately but asking permission for Palmar to stop it against marv.
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On May 12 2015 06:50 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 06:49 GlowingBear wrote:
BH explain to me why stopping truffles nuke immediately but asking permission for Palmar to stop it against marv. because palmar and marv are both mafia with BH like ive already said
Tell me you're kidding here.
I have a town read on you but I might rescind if you really mean to push this
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##Give 3 posts to Bill Murray
Use one to answer me, shut up and use the other 2 only when necessary
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Give me one reason BH is town other than protecting a guy this early without even knowing his role.
I can't see BH's anti nuke coming from town perspective. His double standards on truffle and marv, and the decision of immediately stopping BM's nuke instead of further inspecting truffles nuke is too scummy.
If truffle is town, BH was trying to get town cred
If truffle is Mafia, BH was protecting a scum partner.
I can't see his reaction to the first nuke coming from a town perspective, specially when he asks for permission to palmar.
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exactly. You know what I meant, Kelsen, stop dumb telling
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On May 12 2015 07:39 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 07:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Give me one reason BH is town other than protecting a guy this early without even knowing his role.
I can't see BH's anti nuke coming from town perspective. His double standards on truffle and marv, and the decision of immediately stopping BM's nuke instead of further inspecting truffles nuke is too scummy.
If truffle is town, BH was trying to get town cred
If truffle is Mafia, BH was protecting a scum partner.
I can't see his reaction to the first nuke coming from a town perspective, specially when he asks for permission to palmar. I think it's just not correct to say you "can't see it coming from a town perspective" maybe he judged trefl was town and decided not to let him get hit by a nuke. that feels townie to me. some people are saying it isn't "optimal" because more info could have been gathered, whilst I agree I don't think that makes BH scummy. in the heat of the moment he saved someone he thought was town. for the second nuke he waited a while and then decided to anti it, more in line with an optimal play, that nuke was terrible marv is clear town so that is a pro town move from BH. If BH is mafia it may have made sense to wait it out even longer and see if someone who is town uses an anti nuke to save marv. he can claim he has none left. i don't really see the double standard, if people complain he acted to rashly with the first anti, to wait on the second. I disagree with your analysis
Consider yourself with the anti nuke ability.
You see a town read with one page of filter getting nuked after 48 hours.
You don't know anyone's alignment (you're town, duh). Will you further investigate this guy alignment to decide if you really waste your anti nuke or you immediately use it and shut down thread progression?
Only a guy with perfect information would react that way.
To me, Kelsen, BH asked Palmar's permission so he could blame Palmar once marv flips read. This is somehow approaching WIFOM territory, but very plausible.
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On May 12 2015 07:56 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 07:52 GlowingBear wrote:On May 12 2015 07:39 KelsierSC wrote:On May 12 2015 07:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Give me one reason BH is town other than protecting a guy this early without even knowing his role.
I can't see BH's anti nuke coming from town perspective. His double standards on truffle and marv, and the decision of immediately stopping BM's nuke instead of further inspecting truffles nuke is too scummy.
If truffle is town, BH was trying to get town cred
If truffle is Mafia, BH was protecting a scum partner.
I can't see his reaction to the first nuke coming from a town perspective, specially when he asks for permission to palmar. I think it's just not correct to say you "can't see it coming from a town perspective" maybe he judged trefl was town and decided not to let him get hit by a nuke. that feels townie to me. some people are saying it isn't "optimal" because more info could have been gathered, whilst I agree I don't think that makes BH scummy. in the heat of the moment he saved someone he thought was town. for the second nuke he waited a while and then decided to anti it, more in line with an optimal play, that nuke was terrible marv is clear town so that is a pro town move from BH. If BH is mafia it may have made sense to wait it out even longer and see if someone who is town uses an anti nuke to save marv. he can claim he has none left. i don't really see the double standard, if people complain he acted to rashly with the first anti, to wait on the second. I disagree with your analysis Consider yourself with the anti nuke ability. You see a town read with one page of filter getting nuked after 48 hours. You don't know anyone's alignment (you're town, duh). Will you further investigate this guy alignment to decide if you really waste your anti nuke or you immediately use it and shut down thread progression? Only a guy with perfect information would react that way. To me, Kelsen, BH asked Palmar's permission so he could blame Palmar once marv flips read. This is somehow approaching WIFOM territory, but very plausible. yes I understand that point, but I have also presented a case where BH is town, saying "you just can't see it being town" isn't true consider yourself as mafia, someone nukes marv! who is likely town here, you can claim that you have no anti nukes left, but instead you decide to save him? that doesn't make sense to me.
The same thing I said about truffle applies here.
If marv is town, towncred. If marv is Mafia, protecting a partner.
Tell me why you think marv is town. Because he isn't
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Oh boy. Kelsen. BH IS up for the lynch today.
Oh boy.
Oh. Boy.
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BH, is BM scum?
Yamato, my reads are not based on confirmation stuff. Is based on trying to see things from town/Mafia perspective and believing it fits scum perspective much more than townie perspective
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On May 12 2015 08:13 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 08:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh boy. Kelsen. BH IS up for the lynch today.
Oh boy.
Oh. Boy. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ostJwEM.jpg) haha, i have no idea dude. shouldn't you be asking me about my reads on JAT (who I voted), or Trfel and Marv, who I saved? lern 2 interrogate Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Yamato, my reads are not based on confirmation stuff. It's based on my extraordinarily poor understanding of Blazinghand, Mafia, and human nature in general. No need to get yourself down dude you can just move on to another person
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
I love you BH
But no, I should be asking you. How can you stop two nukes without considering the launcher's alignment?
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On May 12 2015 08:20 yamato77 wrote:
glowingbear, just listen to me
EVEN IF BH is mafia, your argument is absolutely horrible and won't get him lynched
so just stop
people scumreading BM at this point are probably just bad.
we shouldn't lynch either of them, IMO
right now I'm more interested in JAT's potential return to playing the game in some sort of way that isn't excusing why his play is shit, and onegu's play going forward
Point out what is horrible in my read. Saying that his role usage isn't definitive isn't enough
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Lol
Yamato, pls
TD said exactly what I said, but in a more wordy paragraph.
Like, pls.
Bill Murray won't be lynched today.
I'm starting to be suspicious of Kelsen for reasons unknown. Gut feelings
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On May 12 2015 10:54 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 10:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol
Yamato, pls
TD said exactly what I said, but in a more wordy paragraph.
Like, pls.
Bill Murray won't be lynched today.
I'm starting to be suspicious of Kelsen for reasons unknown. Gut feelings No, he didn't, and that's why you'll always be bad.
Is it unanimous that my reads are bad?
If so, I'll stick to single player since nobody will hear me. I will deliver reads and vote and use my super powerful role, but won't be arsed to engage interactions.
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On May 12 2015 12:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Voting BM. There's no way he takes this game so seriously as town.
Xata is scum. BH also might be scum..
I want to lynch you.
Very hard.
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On May 12 2015 12:30 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 12:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Voting BM. There's no way he takes this game so seriously as town.
Xata is scum. BH also might be scum.. I want to lynch you. Very hard.
Your reason to vote BM is bad and you think BH might be scum, so you're assuming Mafia wasted 2 nukes and 2 anti nukes over nothing. Like lol
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