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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 11 2015 00:55 GMT
#341
Can anyone that wants to lynch marv explain how he is the best lynch for today?

BM is totes scum though.
No gg, No skill.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 11 2015 00:56 GMT
#342
On May 11 2015 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 09:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:12 GlowingBear wrote:
It's a shame veterans are too afraid to be the n0 kill and not contributing at all
Anyway I've already out of posts so I'll be waiting for dawn

JubJub list:

Obi
Bats
GB

Separate from mafia, these players are just stupid.


Yo what gives?

@BH: Why am I town?


you can't read and bh is a moron ^^ yay morons! \o/

can we lynch marv now?


point out a flaw in my logic if you see it. GB tried and turned out he wasn't reading the host posts. unless of ocurse you got a scum pm and that's why I'm wrong?


lol moronic is a state of being xP not dependent on any particular post of yours, but as for this particular game...

sandy already pointed out what you failed to read, unless you think it makes sense for scum to sit there and choose their roles blindly independent of one another. i don't know that the hosts are such jokesters, and frankly i don't care, but obviously your list post was worthless anyway because according to you scum has already won

not to mention you failed to read closely enough to even divide your categories properly

bring something worth discussing or go away. tiresome one

as for gb...if i'm really so difficult to understand let me make it clear. i think you may have been contriving excuses for our vaunted veterans often nk'd early...when there was no N0 night kill. that or you're just stupid xD i'll decide later

talk to me about marv; he's the one i want to lynch today...or give me a better lynch


The hosts literally said that scum get a pm that says "mafia" dude. like, look, maybe i screwed up in reading filters, but unless you think the hosts literally lied, you should be saying "balzinghand, the idea is right but you did it wrong, sandro is town" or something. Clearly you're not intelligent enough to understand me, so I'm going to ignore you until I see evidence otherwose
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 11 2015 00:56 GMT
#343
On May 11 2015 09:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Gb is town guys. Unless he faked that shit like super super well.

yeah he didn't know how the scum pm was structures, so probs town
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 11 2015 00:57 GMT
#344
3/60

On May 11 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:
hts, talk to me about who you want to lynch right now, mamacita <3


If I had to make a decision right now, just based on what I have looked at, I'd say GB and LS second. (Particularly with GB's latest post.)

I am querying a few others based on things I find don't add up (e.g. Marv) and still getting through Sandro's/Rayn's posts atm.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 11 2015 00:57 GMT
#345
oh yeah also mad ohio a world withoout communism or capitalism
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 11 2015 00:58 GMT
#346
On May 11 2015 05:43 sandroba wrote:
@talkinghead
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 15:24 TalkingDead wrote:
"GlowingBear
In looking through things there are a few things I find interesting.
On May 10 2015 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:

4)Kelsen

Null opening. Commenting on something already dropped in the thread it's an easy out for Mafia but the joke made me have a townish gut read on him. A negative read + a positive read = null FUCK YEAH MATHMATEKS.

Then he calls LS out for legit reasons. Townread.

I already know he is mafia because SICK READS (TM)

Saying Rasputin is town for her opening is odd, there is nothing alignment indicative in there, so bad opening.

6)LS

Posts two posts to say he will resort on consolidated posts. Lol I'm tempted to call him Mafia for that but I can see it coming from both alignments... Argh.

I found this post quite odd. Initially so because he reaffirms his Damdred scumread but then bothers to comment on something that's supposed to be viewed as scummy but is just null. The townread on KelsierSC I find interesting because Kelsier also ended up with an odd townread on GlowingBear. But also because GlowingBear doesn't mention Trfel at all while Trfel had an interesting point on how LightningStrike was posting. But in looking further at it, he doesn't seem to place heavy weight on LS being mafia based on talking about how he's going to make consolidated posts. He gives Kelsier a townread for mostly calling out LS for "legit reasons" which GlowingBear doesn't want to follow up on. It's just exceptionally odd. GlowingBear's reads in general are just exceptionally odd on top of that. Initially, I felt like GlowingBear was trying to bus Damdred and Damdred was (at least initially) trying to back him out of that read in a semi-natural way and get GlowingBear to chill out. But in looking more specifically at the connections, the KelsierSC-GlowingBear connection is a bit more odd. I think there are better lynches on day 1 because often enough the person with really weird fucked up reads is just a bad towny which wouldn't be out of place for GlowingBear. But I also wouldn't balk at his lynch since something's definitely wrong here.

5)Damdred
This post is too long already and I need to get some food. I'll comment on him later. tl;dr I think GlowingBear vs Damdred is more likely to be town-town right now.

If I'm reading correctly you say there is plenty of reasons to suspect GB, wouldn't be against his lynch because there is definitely something wrong, but somehow you STILL think damdred and GB are the same alignment for some obscure reason that you never revealed AND now you think it's likely the are town-town??? WTF is this shit. I can't buy into a single thing you are saying, this feels like a huge pile of horse shit.

Reposting this for better formating and because it was mostly ignored.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 11 2015 01:00 GMT
#347
@bh have you actually read any of TDs posts or my comments on it before saying he is town?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 11 2015 01:00 GMT
#348
On May 11 2015 09:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:12 GlowingBear wrote:
It's a shame veterans are too afraid to be the n0 kill and not contributing at all
Anyway I've already out of posts so I'll be waiting for dawn

JubJub list:

Obi
Bats
GB

Separate from mafia, these players are just stupid.


Yo what gives?

@BH: Why am I town?


you can't read and bh is a moron ^^ yay morons! \o/

can we lynch marv now?


point out a flaw in my logic if you see it. GB tried and turned out he wasn't reading the host posts. unless of ocurse you got a scum pm and that's why I'm wrong?


lol moronic is a state of being xP not dependent on any particular post of yours, but as for this particular game...

sandy already pointed out what you failed to read, unless you think it makes sense for scum to sit there and choose their roles blindly independent of one another. i don't know that the hosts are such jokesters, and frankly i don't care, but obviously your list post was worthless anyway because according to you scum has already won

not to mention you failed to read closely enough to even divide your categories properly

bring something worth discussing or go away. tiresome one

as for gb...if i'm really so difficult to understand let me make it clear. i think you may have been contriving excuses for our vaunted veterans often nk'd early...when there was no N0 night kill. that or you're just stupid xD i'll decide later

talk to me about marv; he's the one i want to lynch today...or give me a better lynch


The hosts literally said that scum get a pm that says "mafia" dude. like, look, maybe i screwed up in reading filters, but unless you think the hosts literally lied, you should be saying "balzinghand, the idea is right but you did it wrong, sandro is town" or something. Clearly you're not intelligent enough to understand me, so I'm going to ignore you until I see evidence otherwose


lol the idea is by definition wrong if you have more scum than town it's okay though. i <3 morons (i also speak bh \o/) not everyone can be expected to understand simple logic

who should we lynch, tonto?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 11 2015 01:02 GMT
#349
On May 11 2015 09:57 Half the Sky wrote:
3/60

Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:
hts, talk to me about who you want to lynch right now, mamacita <3


If I had to make a decision right now, just based on what I have looked at, I'd say GB and LS second. (Particularly with GB's latest post.)

I am querying a few others based on things I find don't add up (e.g. Marv) and still getting through Sandro's/Rayn's posts atm.


eh...waffly on both of those :/ not sure why you're so sure

i like sandy though ^^

and yes, think we should lynch marv bangbang

bueno, that's all from me for now

@Oats

how is he not? xP if you've got one good reason to townread him i'll listen lol >< just one
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 11 2015 01:04 GMT
#350
On May 11 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 09:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:39 rsoultin wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:12 GlowingBear wrote:
It's a shame veterans are too afraid to be the n0 kill and not contributing at all
Anyway I've already out of posts so I'll be waiting for dawn

JubJub list:

Obi
Bats
GB

Separate from mafia, these players are just stupid.


Yo what gives?

@BH: Why am I town?


you can't read and bh is a moron ^^ yay morons! \o/

can we lynch marv now?

Why you think Marv is scum?


because the king of town is neither very kingly nor very townie

and perhaps gb thereafter, though i can't decide if it was an excuse for the so-called "frightened vets" or just sheer stupidity/lack of reading comprehension

He only have 3 posts since the game started and Palmar had only 1 post saying Hi but it's the weekend I think it's easier to figure out Palmar's alignment and Marv once they start posting because they can read each other pretty damn well.


palmar is palmar and will do as palmar does

marv's silence is more alignment indicative, at least to me

going to commit to anything this game, ls, or just wait for everyone else to tell you what to do, make your reads for you?

hts, talk to me about who you want to lynch right now, mamacita <3

I committing to my townreads on KSC and HTS Marv inactivity can be alignment indicative but doesn't he normally got chess going on today but if he doesn't post stuff I know he can be do as town then he might be scum but we need him to post more before making conclusions.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 11 2015 01:05 GMT
#351
@rsoul let's hear more from marv first before putting him into a defensive stance. His openning did not impress, but I think TD is much more clear scum at this point. What on both my posts about him that has failed to convince you?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 11 2015 01:06 GMT
#352
Hello.

I'll get to this game in a few hours at the latest. I am sorry for my absence today, I'll be better during the week than on weekends.

The purpose of this post is to ensure that I comply with the "one post every 24 hours" rule. Meanwhile, enjoy some music.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 11 2015 01:08 GMT
#353
On May 11 2015 09:47 Half the Sky wrote:
1/60

Catching up a little bit before I go to bed since it's late here.

Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:46 GlowingBear wrote:
JAT and Marv are underwhelming. Mafia please shoot one of them if they're town so I don't have to think about them.


Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 08:12 GlowingBear wrote:
It's a shame veterans are too afraid to be the n0 kill and not contributing at all
Anyway I've already out of posts so I'll be waiting for dawn


I want to draw attention to some of GB's comments.

He's advocating to shoot either of JAT or Marv, and then he thinks veterans are afraid to be the n0 kill.

GB, where exactly do you stand on JAT/Marv (or any of the veterans not posting)? And why?

Also I was scumreading you not for your list post but your reaction to Yamato's post. You commented "awesome" post - when there were a few red flags, and the fact that he coloured you red.

Do you have any thoughts on Yamato?


The reaction was a joke. That's why it was best suited to colourblind people.

I have no reads from them. I expected more contribution from them. I thought they were afraid for getting killed n0. Turns out Mafia does not shoot n0 in this game.

Yamato is null. He's being useless. Calling people bad without reasoning makes me think he could be scum, though.

That jub jub list was just a few random names.
I'm adorable.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 11 2015 01:11 GMT
#354
On May 11 2015 10:06 Trfel wrote:
Hello.

I'll get to this game in a few hours at the latest. I am sorry for my absence today, I'll be better during the week than on weekends.

The purpose of this post is to ensure that I comply with the "one post every 24 hours" rule. Meanwhile, enjoy some music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwaRvALFRcQ


listened to the whole song to see if you were softing a role.

I aint even mad
Zerg for Life
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 11 2015 01:14 GMT
#355
GB is my top town read so far, pretty much every single post he's made I agree with. I believe any questioning pointed towards him at this point is just a waste of space and we should be talking about TD and damdred instead.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 11 2015 01:15 GMT
#356
4/60

Ras, I was "so sure" based on the way you phrased the question "...lynch right now".

I would have to agree on Sandro so far with a townlean on him. I'm not sure how Oats comes to the conclusion that he's asking questions for the sake of asking questions - he's challenging scumreads (Damdred/BH from what I can tell) with his questions, which looks pretty town.

I know Oats tends to make terse statements, yet I can't tell by what he's saying if he's just not reading the thread or not thinking through why he's asking them before asserting that Sandro is fake. Either of which reflect a scum behaviour on him.

After 2am here so I'm off for the night.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 11 2015 01:16 GMT
#357
On May 11 2015 09:53 KelsierSC wrote:
TD is who I want to lynch right now , TD i still want you to respond to the post I made before this, I asked you several questions that need a response.

Noted that you and several other people want answers that are wholly irrelevant. Do you have any other pipe dreams you want to talk about?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 11 2015 01:19 GMT
#358
On May 11 2015 10:00 sandroba wrote:
@bh have you actually read any of TDs posts or my comments on it before saying he is town?


skimmed for things that look like scumreads, if you had scumreads n0 I missed them
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 11 2015 01:19 GMT
#359
On May 11 2015 10:16 TalkingDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 09:53 KelsierSC wrote:
TD is who I want to lynch right now , TD i still want you to respond to the post I made before this, I asked you several questions that need a response.

Noted that you and several other people want answers that are wholly irrelevant. Do you have any other pipe dreams you want to talk about?


well...the answers are important to me so if you can indulge me and answer them. I think sandroba probably wants a response aswell. For clarity here is the questions i posed to you again.

On May 11 2015 05:23 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 04:03 TalkingDead wrote:
yamato77
Yamato like many veterans generally gives very few fucks when he can't lynch people. Between tone (slight hopeful, slight asshole) and his color coding, these are far more likely to come from town!yamato. The interesting thing to note is that he doesn't seem to care whatsoever what he says; instead, he pops in, makes a comment and leaves. I for one expect more from him, but there doesn't look like he has any ulterior motive in posting. Rather he just says what he wants to say. That's why I have him as so strongly town.

KelsierSC
I think he's town mostly based on how obviously hypocritical he is. He spends the first half of his posts talking about how awful other people's post are and how they're wasting posts while he doesn't really bother adding anything himself. That's behavior that I tend to associate with town more than mafia. There's also the aspect that there's no real directional push; rather, it's pecking at a variety of other players. The only reason why I would put him on the town side of null instead of fully town is because his reads are pretty terrible. I find how he backs off of GB rather odd; I can't really understand:
On May 10 2015 19:27 KelsierSC wrote:
He has gone back and looked over his reads and made some alterations which is a towny thing to do.

Because when you look at GB's filter, I'm not seeing any alterations in his reads. First post is essentially a joke; GB has 1 moderate length reads post and a post expanding upon his MIA Damdred read. Rather the GB read feels very much like a preemptive defense while trying to push elsewhere. So if either GB or Kelsier flips mafia, then I'd take a heavy look at the other.

VisceraEyes
I find it rather out of place that VE is somewhat bothering to play if VE is town. I agree with Kelsier that on tone, VE looks a bit towny, but quite often VE has complained about not being able to lynch people. By this I mean that in games like PYP or here, where there's a 'pre-game' phase where you have alignment and can talk but are unable to lynch people quite often he as complained about not bothering to play because there's very little point in playing due to the lack of a perceived threat. He can't realistically threaten to lynch or shoot or nuke or whatever anyone and therefore feels less capable of applying pressure. I do find it odd that he didn't harp on BillMurray's last post at all because usually town!VE hates and tends to scumread the "leading on" type of post. His Batsnacks read and his GB/Batsnacks/Onegu observation are things that I'd normally expect from town!VE though. Since in at least a few of those games VE was mafia and because town!VE reads, I'm going to leave him at null to town.

marvellosity
I have him as town for tone alone. It's really not worth considering him until day 2 at the very earliest and if he's alive on day 3 then just lynch him. But I will be sheeping him on day 1.

HalftheSky
HTS is town. Period. She's made an exceptional number of interesting points (GB reaction to yamato, Damdred's word choice, initial poke at LightningStrike).

BillMurray
On May 10 2015 18:40 Bill Murray wrote:
Oh I've been filter diving. Didn't expect anyone to post.

As per "This rule will not be absolutely strictly enforced" in the op

I hope going 3 posts over isn't a big deal... because I have been working on a massive post tomorrow.

This post strikes me as particularly odd. Not only had he donated posts to Damdred, something which historically has happened more from mafia than town, he doesn't use any of his posts productively. He promises more useful things in the bland future. Yet, the most interesting thing to me is his caring about going over the limit. That's a behavior that I expect far more to come from mafia as they know they're part of a team which they would hurt by getting modkilled due to rules. Town tends to just damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead. This is on top of BillMurray not being an awful player as town. By far the best lynch on day 1.

Onegu
There's a variety of odd things with him. I think he's the third best lynch on day 1. He's drinking but doesn't post. There's this post:
On May 10 2015 09:57 Onegu wrote:
Man I really hope I get the traitor just realized I can get that. Then I can be scum!!!

Which is a really odd thought process to me. How could town possibly get the traitor role? Usually town that can become mafia has a different role name. This is also a normal game and therefore no alignment changes should ever happen.

Trfel
Trfel's posts aren't quite in-depth enough for me to really think he's town, but I like the points he's making. Null-town for now and flesh it out more on day 1.

LightningStike
Others have covered this for the most part. LS is the second best lynch for D1.

Damdred

GlowingBear
In looking through things there are a few things I find interesting.
On May 10 2015 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:

4)Kelsen

Null opening. Commenting on something already dropped in the thread it's an easy out for Mafia but the joke made me have a townish gut read on him. A negative read + a positive read = null FUCK YEAH MATHMATEKS.

Then he calls LS out for legit reasons. Townread.

I already know he is mafia because SICK READS (TM)

Saying Rasputin is town for her opening is odd, there is nothing alignment indicative in there, so bad opening.

6)LS

Posts two posts to say he will resort on consolidated posts. Lol I'm tempted to call him Mafia for that but I can see it coming from both alignments... Argh.

I found this post quite odd. Initially so because he reaffirms his Damdred scumread but then bothers to comment on something that's supposed to be viewed as scummy but is just null. The townread on KelsierSC I find interesting because Kelsier also ended up with an odd townread on GlowingBear. But also because GlowingBear doesn't mention Trfel at all while Trfel had an interesting point on how LightningStrike was posting. But in looking further at it, he doesn't seem to place heavy weight on LS being mafia based on talking about how he's going to make consolidated posts. He gives Kelsier a townread for mostly calling out LS for "legit reasons" which GlowingBear doesn't want to follow up on. It's just exceptionally odd. GlowingBear's reads in general are just exceptionally odd on top of that. Initially, I felt like GlowingBear was trying to bus Damdred and Damdred was (at least initially) trying to back him out of that read in a semi-natural way and get GlowingBear to chill out. But in looking more specifically at the connections, the KelsierSC-GlowingBear connection is a bit more odd. I think there are better lynches on day 1 because often enough the person with really weird fucked up reads is just a bad towny which wouldn't be out of place for GlowingBear. But I also wouldn't balk at his lynch since something's definitely wrong here.

5)Damdred
This post is too long already and I need to get some food. I'll comment on him later. tl;dr I think GlowingBear vs Damdred is more likely to be town-town right now.

Nothing of note to say about
Xatalos
batsnacks
ObiWanShinobi
Oatsmaster
justanothertownie

MIAs
Palmer
Stutters
Vivax
Blazinghand
sandroba
RebirthOfLeGend


how rude.

I suppose the yamato thing is ok...I mean you had him as top town after two of his posts i think which were his all caps dreamflower and his colour code. Maybe you can argue a tone read now but at that point to call him top town i didn't like.

So at this stage if marv wanted to lynch a townread of yours , you would sheep that?

if I may be so bold to colour some of your reads would it be something like this

HTS
GB
Damdred
VE
Lightning Strike

because I have those exact reads yet apparently they are awful so i'm a bit confused.






Zerg for Life
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 11 2015 01:19 GMT
#360
I think Sandro's reads suck.

Usually that means we lynch him.
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