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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 15 2015 21:35 GMT
#2261
##Give Glowingbear 10 posts
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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 15 2015 21:36 GMT
#2262
On May 16 2015 06:30 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 06:23 Stutters695 wrote:
Anyway, I'll humor your ridiculous thought for a second. I had missed the d1 vote and really hadn't done shit so I decided to shoot n1 rather than get myself involved in the d2 pool and potentially waste a day. I'd rather die at night than waste a lynch. Originally I wanted to shoot BH/Trfel to try and shed some light on the nuke fiasco but when I was reading through I saw VE/Droba/Marv all had Palmar as scummy. Reading his filter I was eh about it, but I respect their reads and Droba's post that implied Palmar might not be scum, but 3p sealed the deal since either way, as long as I don't hit town I live. Thus it seemed like a safe shot and even if I missed would generate info.


Anyway, last post on that, I'm done with that topic. If you can't see how obviously town I am, that's on you.


This doesn't make sense to me though. How does shooting n1 keep you from getting involved in the d2 pool and why would you ever be dying at night?

Also I don't think marv had palmar as scum unless he said that outside the thread. The worst thing marv said about palmar that I saw was that he was "useless when he's like this."


Because of my role. Jesus Christ you guys are dense. I shot Palmar. If he was town, I'm dead. If I'm not dead, I shot a mafia and thus lynching me would be real retarded d2.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 15 2015 21:40 GMT
#2263
On May 16 2015 06:36 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 06:30 batsnacks wrote:
On May 16 2015 06:23 Stutters695 wrote:
Anyway, I'll humor your ridiculous thought for a second. I had missed the d1 vote and really hadn't done shit so I decided to shoot n1 rather than get myself involved in the d2 pool and potentially waste a day. I'd rather die at night than waste a lynch. Originally I wanted to shoot BH/Trfel to try and shed some light on the nuke fiasco but when I was reading through I saw VE/Droba/Marv all had Palmar as scummy. Reading his filter I was eh about it, but I respect their reads and Droba's post that implied Palmar might not be scum, but 3p sealed the deal since either way, as long as I don't hit town I live. Thus it seemed like a safe shot and even if I missed would generate info.


Anyway, last post on that, I'm done with that topic. If you can't see how obviously town I am, that's on you.


This doesn't make sense to me though. How does shooting n1 keep you from getting involved in the d2 pool and why would you ever be dying at night?

Also I don't think marv had palmar as scum unless he said that outside the thread. The worst thing marv said about palmar that I saw was that he was "useless when he's like this."


Because of my role. Jesus Christ you guys are dense. I shot Palmar. If he was town, I'm dead. If I'm not dead, I shot a mafia and thus lynching me would be real retarded d2.


Don't get your breeches in a bunch. You were the one that decided to humor the ridiculous thought in the first place.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 15 2015 21:50 GMT
#2264
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 15 2015 22:04 GMT
#2265
On May 16 2015 06:20 batsnacks wrote:
Caesar was a tyrannical dictator. If we're doing flavor Brutus is town for assassinating him.


He is also a traitor so lol?
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 15 2015 22:07 GMT
#2266
On May 16 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
ATTENTION TOWNIES! STUTTERS IS THE MAFIA TRAITOR! SEE QUOTE BELOW FOR REASONING. VOTE HIM!!

Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 06:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Uh huh.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Junius_Brutus_the_Younger

"He is best known in modern times for taking a leading role in the assassination of Julius Caesar.[1]"

I know a bit of history.

And considering my role as a pardoner and that my name was Cicero, I know flavours have connection to their roles.

I also know that I was kinda suspicious of your claim at the start of the day. That's because dream flowers (i) die if they kill town and (ii) has 2 shots.

As the only role that shoots at night, you could only be a dream flower.

But would someone that played like you day1, that had no interactions, that had no hard reasons to think Palmar was Mafia, shoot him and risk himself so much?
Also, if you have 2kp, why wasting one with a claim right on the start of day2? You claimed for survival, not for helping town.

You ARE the traitor.


Also, please give me like 20 posts because I think I've already exceeded my post limit by A LOT

If I have the power to, you can have my max number of posts I'm allowed to give, or 20, whichever is less.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 15 2015 22:07 GMT
#2267
##give GlowingBear 10 posts


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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 15 2015 22:10 GMT
#2268
On May 16 2015 06:23 Stutters695 wrote:
Anyway, I'll humor your ridiculous thought for a second. I had missed the d1 vote and really hadn't done shit so I decided to shoot n1 rather than get myself involved in the d2 pool and potentially waste a day. I'd rather die at night than waste a lynch. Originally I wanted to shoot BH/Trfel to try and shed some light on the nuke fiasco but when I was reading through I saw VE/Droba/Marv all had Palmar as scummy. Reading his filter I was eh about it, but I respect their reads and Droba's post that implied Palmar might not be scum, but 3p sealed the deal since either way, as long as I don't hit town I live. Thus it seemed like a safe shot and even if I missed would generate info.


Anyway, last post on that, I'm done with that topic. If you can't see how obviously town I am, that's on you.



So you're saying you had VE/Sandroba/Marv as obvious town go sheep their reads?
Even if they (well, just Sandroba) never voted Palmar?

Even if VE hasn't done anything good on day1.

Even if, you know, marv tried to vote FUCKING BH, FUCKING VIVAX before Palmar.

And please, you voted palmar since the start of fay1 which implies you didn't scumread him AFTER reading their filters.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 15 2015 22:14 GMT
#2269
I'm torn between Onegu, Oats and Obi.

my read on oats I am not particularly confident in, it was mainly based on his sniping of me around EOD and his voting of me and rudeness.

with obi I think he's mafia but some other people think he's town, I don't really feel confident on this.

With onegu he hasn't offered anything memorable to the game and has a minimal contribution, I liked the case that HtS brought up against him and I think that the vote EOD looks poor for him as he was deliberately not on either of the two town wagons , like palmar.
Another more long term reason is that it will give me more information about obi and the state of the game right now, if onegu is mafia it probably means we have hit more mafia due to his lack of resistance to the lynch and his apparent low morale.

##vote onegu
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 15 2015 22:15 GMT
#2270
And please if you didn't want town to waste a day you should be interacting and contributing since day1. You simply claimed and peaced out. Now you're here talking, but only when cited.

A big "come on".
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 15 2015 22:16 GMT
#2271
On May 16 2015 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm torn between Onegu, Oats and Obi.

my read on oats I am not particularly confident in, it was mainly based on his sniping of me around EOD and his voting of me and rudeness.

with obi I think he's mafia but some other people think he's town, I don't really feel confident on this.

With onegu he hasn't offered anything memorable to the game and has a minimal contribution, I liked the case that HtS brought up against him and I think that the vote EOD looks poor for him as he was deliberately not on either of the two town wagons , like palmar.
Another more long term reason is that it will give me more information about obi and the state of the game right now, if onegu is mafia it probably means we have hit more mafia due to his lack of resistance to the lynch and his apparent low morale.

##vote onegu


And this guy is confirmed Mafia for justifying a vote on Onegu right now without even caring for what is going on.
I'm adorable.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 15 2015 22:17 GMT
#2272
On May 16 2015 07:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm torn between Onegu, Oats and Obi.

my read on oats I am not particularly confident in, it was mainly based on his sniping of me around EOD and his voting of me and rudeness.

with obi I think he's mafia but some other people think he's town, I don't really feel confident on this.

With onegu he hasn't offered anything memorable to the game and has a minimal contribution, I liked the case that HtS brought up against him and I think that the vote EOD looks poor for him as he was deliberately not on either of the two town wagons , like palmar.
Another more long term reason is that it will give me more information about obi and the state of the game right now, if onegu is mafia it probably means we have hit more mafia due to his lack of resistance to the lynch and his apparent low morale.

##vote onegu


And this guy is confirmed Mafia for justifying a vote on Onegu right now without even caring for what is going on.


aren't you trying to call stutters mafia, yeh I don't care about that
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 15 2015 22:21 GMT
#2273
24/60

Skimmed through. A few things. I'm bogged with wedding related commitments (being in the party) today and tomorrow so I apologise I haven't been able to really contribute here. My thoughts in brief (phone posting ATM)

Regarding the mason exchange and everything, GB, I think you might be mistaken - rsoultin was beginning to back off Marv, don't think she was killed.

My working theory is that Xatalos was scum, JAT (given his play, he's not working quite as hard now over 2 cycles) and obv Palmar are three. I am fine with Onegu being the lynch tbh.

I feel his reasoning (which I have contested) doesn't really add up.

I think obi is town. I do not understand the case on him. His posting quality over time gives a more town vibe the reasoning is clear etc.

I think the last is somewhere in TD/Marv/ksc. I'm sure one of them is tricking me, but not sure whom.

can't easily look up the flavour for Stutters ATM...my only gripe with his gameplay is that'd he'd be doing a tad more (like he did in nsm7) but as Vig no one has cced him etc.

Since I'm out all tomorrow...leave me any questions you have. Will promise to pick it up Sunday when I return (assuming I survive).

Also if anyone needs posts I'll check in when I wake up tomorrow.



The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 15 2015 22:32 GMT
#2274
On May 16 2015 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm torn between Onegu, Oats and Obi.

my read on oats I am not particularly confident in, it was mainly based on his sniping of me around EOD and his voting of me and rudeness.

with obi I think he's mafia but some other people think he's town, I don't really feel confident on this.

With onegu he hasn't offered anything memorable to the game and has a minimal contribution, I liked the case that HtS brought up against him and I think that the vote EOD looks poor for him as he was deliberately not on either of the two town wagons , like palmar.
Another more long term reason is that it will give me more information about obi and the state of the game right now, if onegu is mafia it probably means we have hit more mafia due to his lack of resistance to the lynch and his apparent low morale.

##vote onegu



What HtS case. Go to her filter she never actually calls me mafia. She says she cant read me and doesn't like the meta on LS claim. Like she says she has been on him since Horn for his meta points he always brings up. That is in game. Me and rsoul had a very long conversation in Team Speak with him about this and why its bad and he shouldnt do it as town. HtS just says I am a ok or fine lynch.

Second LS never mentions about my point about him. He just says he has never claimed as mafia, sidenote HtS just said this also. That makes no difference as this is a themed game and scum most likely got fake claims which make it much easier to fake claim. Also the role he claimed is really easy to fake claim. Its not like he is claiming dreamweaver or janitor.

Like the best scum point on me has been I am lazy this game. I havent been lazy I just dont have many reads. Im also sad I rolled VT in a themed game...

But anyway Im VT not Scum or traitor. After I flip you fools need to take a big look at LS because my read isnt wrong.

Like as town when he gets tunneled he like rage quits which he hasnt done here. Second he still doesnt have any scum reads other than me. Which is the current easy mislynch.

If the only reason you are town reading him is because of his claim. Get the fuck off of it. Its a terrible reason to town read him at this point.

Also why are you against me for throwing my vote away. Its so meh.

##Vote LS
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 15 2015 22:33 GMT
#2275
It's a shame obvious traitor isn't getting killed
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 15 2015 22:35 GMT
#2276
On May 16 2015 07:32 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm torn between Onegu, Oats and Obi.

my read on oats I am not particularly confident in, it was mainly based on his sniping of me around EOD and his voting of me and rudeness.

with obi I think he's mafia but some other people think he's town, I don't really feel confident on this.

With onegu he hasn't offered anything memorable to the game and has a minimal contribution, I liked the case that HtS brought up against him and I think that the vote EOD looks poor for him as he was deliberately not on either of the two town wagons , like palmar.
Another more long term reason is that it will give me more information about obi and the state of the game right now, if onegu is mafia it probably means we have hit more mafia due to his lack of resistance to the lynch and his apparent low morale.

##vote onegu



What HtS case. Go to her filter she never actually calls me mafia. She says she cant read me and doesn't like the meta on LS claim. Like she says she has been on him since Horn for his meta points he always brings up. That is in game. Me and rsoul had a very long conversation in Team Speak with him about this and why its bad and he shouldnt do it as town. HtS just says I am a ok or fine lynch.

Second LS never mentions about my point about him. He just says he has never claimed as mafia, sidenote HtS just said this also. That makes no difference as this is a themed game and scum most likely got fake claims which make it much easier to fake claim. Also the role he claimed is really easy to fake claim. Its not like he is claiming dreamweaver or janitor.

Like the best scum point on me has been I am lazy this game. I havent been lazy I just dont have many reads. Im also sad I rolled VT in a themed game...

But anyway Im VT not Scum or traitor. After I flip you fools need to take a big look at LS because my read isnt wrong.

Like as town when he gets tunneled he like rage quits which he hasnt done here. Second he still doesnt have any scum reads other than me. Which is the current easy mislynch.

If the only reason you are town reading him is because of his claim. Get the fuck off of it. Its a terrible reason to town read him at this point.

Also why are you against me for throwing my vote away. Its so meh.

##Vote LS

Oh Onegu I prob will flip at the same time assuming the assassin can use his power during the day phase. Anyways your read on me is bad since I'm Town not scum (Although my play been meh I will pick it up once Onegu gets lynched if the Mafia Assassin can't use his power during the day).
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 15 2015 22:37 GMT
#2277
LS I think you've played with Onegu before. Can you give me a meta read on Onegu?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 15 2015 22:37 GMT
#2278
On May 16 2015 07:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 07:32 Onegu wrote:
On May 16 2015 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm torn between Onegu, Oats and Obi.

my read on oats I am not particularly confident in, it was mainly based on his sniping of me around EOD and his voting of me and rudeness.

with obi I think he's mafia but some other people think he's town, I don't really feel confident on this.

With onegu he hasn't offered anything memorable to the game and has a minimal contribution, I liked the case that HtS brought up against him and I think that the vote EOD looks poor for him as he was deliberately not on either of the two town wagons , like palmar.
Another more long term reason is that it will give me more information about obi and the state of the game right now, if onegu is mafia it probably means we have hit more mafia due to his lack of resistance to the lynch and his apparent low morale.

##vote onegu



What HtS case. Go to her filter she never actually calls me mafia. She says she cant read me and doesn't like the meta on LS claim. Like she says she has been on him since Horn for his meta points he always brings up. That is in game. Me and rsoul had a very long conversation in Team Speak with him about this and why its bad and he shouldnt do it as town. HtS just says I am a ok or fine lynch.

Second LS never mentions about my point about him. He just says he has never claimed as mafia, sidenote HtS just said this also. That makes no difference as this is a themed game and scum most likely got fake claims which make it much easier to fake claim. Also the role he claimed is really easy to fake claim. Its not like he is claiming dreamweaver or janitor.

Like the best scum point on me has been I am lazy this game. I havent been lazy I just dont have many reads. Im also sad I rolled VT in a themed game...

But anyway Im VT not Scum or traitor. After I flip you fools need to take a big look at LS because my read isnt wrong.

Like as town when he gets tunneled he like rage quits which he hasnt done here. Second he still doesnt have any scum reads other than me. Which is the current easy mislynch.

If the only reason you are town reading him is because of his claim. Get the fuck off of it. Its a terrible reason to town read him at this point.

Also why are you against me for throwing my vote away. Its so meh.

##Vote LS

Oh Onegu I prob will flip at the same time assuming the assassin can use his power during the day phase. Anyways your read on me is bad since I'm Town not scum (Although my play been meh I will pick it up once Onegu gets lynched if the Mafia Assassin can't use his power during the day).

Also HTS did make a 2 post thing about why you're scum too.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 15 2015 22:38 GMT
#2279
On May 16 2015 07:37 batsnacks wrote:
LS I think you've played with Onegu before. Can you give me a meta read on Onegu?

Mafia or horrible town can't tell which because his play isn't that good regardless of his alignment from my experience with playing with him.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 15 2015 22:38 GMT
#2280
On May 16 2015 07:32 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm torn between Onegu, Oats and Obi.

my read on oats I am not particularly confident in, it was mainly based on his sniping of me around EOD and his voting of me and rudeness.

with obi I think he's mafia but some other people think he's town, I don't really feel confident on this.

With onegu he hasn't offered anything memorable to the game and has a minimal contribution, I liked the case that HtS brought up against him and I think that the vote EOD looks poor for him as he was deliberately not on either of the two town wagons , like palmar.
Another more long term reason is that it will give me more information about obi and the state of the game right now, if onegu is mafia it probably means we have hit more mafia due to his lack of resistance to the lynch and his apparent low morale.

##vote onegu



What HtS case. Go to her filter she never actually calls me mafia. She says she cant read me and doesn't like the meta on LS claim. Like she says she has been on him since Horn for his meta points he always brings up. That is in game. Me and rsoul had a very long conversation in Team Speak with him about this and why its bad and he shouldnt do it as town. HtS just says I am a ok or fine lynch.

Second LS never mentions about my point about him. He just says he has never claimed as mafia, sidenote HtS just said this also. That makes no difference as this is a themed game and scum most likely got fake claims which make it much easier to fake claim. Also the role he claimed is really easy to fake claim. Its not like he is claiming dreamweaver or janitor.

Like the best scum point on me has been I am lazy this game. I havent been lazy I just dont have many reads. Im also sad I rolled VT in a themed game...

But anyway Im VT not Scum or traitor. After I flip you fools need to take a big look at LS because my read isnt wrong.

Like as town when he gets tunneled he like rage quits which he hasnt done here. Second he still doesnt have any scum reads other than me. Which is the current easy mislynch.

If the only reason you are town reading him is because of his claim. Get the fuck off of it. Its a terrible reason to town read him at this point.

Also why are you against me for throwing my vote away. Its so meh.

##Vote LS


On May 15 2015 03:34 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 03:31 Half the Sky wrote:
14/60

A few points - Xatalos shot was not a bad one IMO (I mean seriously, he's fallen off again) although seeing his flip would have been really nice. I really do hope there is a coroner around this game.

My take on Onegu:

Argument between him and rsoultin - based on tone as I said before D1, I was seeing both town and scum tendencies in him. I was very torn that he's going after Rasputin, although basd on meta a key thing that made Rasputin scum was her tendency to hesitate for a post or two when people scumread her. She has adapted her scumgame well, but this game given the reasoning she's had particularly her long novel on n1, really makes me believe she's town.

Yeh the formatting of her posts has hurt my head sometimes, but her reads are pretty clear even if she doesn't use the exact language to scumread someone (ie this person is scum).

The key argument against Onegu regarding the case on Rasputin - to put it in one sentence - is that he's using ONE scumtell on her (instead of multiple that there are, and that he IS aware of, per our experience in NSM7) and a key scumtell I haven't seen is her hesitation for 1-2 posts before she responds if she is scumread. It's hard to articulate, but I haven't seen it here, and he's ignored that particular tell.

Separate from this argument, he's been pushing LS, who I also don't like this game at all either (but that's a separate issue) though I see he's claiming a blue role as well.

I'd say my biggest issue with Onegu is that he's really sparse with the scumreads. There are 4 scum remaining so if LS is blue, who is he scumreading now?

Basically your lynch isn't a bad one at this point.


I would add in that after seeing BH and vivax be town he has made an effort not to be on either wagon, it was painfully obvious rs was never going to be the lynch.

I'd be down for an onegu lynch,

HTS what do you think of obi right now? have you gone through his filter?


This was the points that HTS raised against you which I liked, I am really running out of posts and don't want to be modkilled. I'm sure people calling me scum must have more interesting questions than "why are you calling me mafia?" so if you want to actually ask me something then I will condense that into one post.
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