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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 25 2015 18:42 GMT
#47
/in as an open slot
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 02 2015 13:44 GMT
#110
You know, it's been a hot minute since I've been modkilled. No day like today right?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 00:57 GMT
#234
Sorry, didn't realize this started. Watching Pacquiao Mayweather tonight so don't expect a lot, going to catch up real quick.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 01:25 GMT
#242
I for one welcome our new Mayweather overlords
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 02:29 GMT
#295
On May 03 2015 11:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On May 03 2015 11:21 ritoky wrote:
ff he thinks it was intentionally trying to take advantage of nubs, ofc he thinks that makes superbia more mafia lol

I wanted him to make a direct conclusion rather than leave it to iinterpretation

This is a good post.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 02:33 GMT
#299
Have you ever played before Disformation?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 02:36 GMT
#302
I meant in general, not TL
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 02:46 GMT
#308
Oh gotcha, I thought you meant first ever post.

Interesting a newbie hits the ground running that hard. I like that.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 05:02 GMT
#362
On May 03 2015 13:05 sicklucker wrote:
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On May 03 2015 09:34 The Shining wrote:
Ebwop: he = SL.

You see, HtS says she'd pick it up in the 2nd half of this phase. If she doesn't, I'd lynch her.

But right now, we have SL who won't play D1, as per pre game, did his town spoiler thing and disappeared. I'd rather vote him and force him to play.

##Vote: Sicklucker


So you would vote the guy that already said he would probably not play day 1 as either alignment? solid

You know as well as I do that there is a difference between not playing d1 and not being good d1.

I pick up as the game goes on since my d1 is absolute ass, but wanting to policy you unless you step up is completely understandable.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 05:07 GMT
#364
On May 03 2015 12:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
gonna tone down on my spam, I forgot this is a newbie game. Nobody wants to read 20 pages of FF spam

Gonna have to learn how to deal with you/marv/hf eventually. Plus it makes me think you're town and I like that.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 05:19 GMT
#365
On May 03 2015 14:06 sicklucker wrote:
The threat is understandable. Actually doing it on the other hand

A threat without action is worthless. Following through if you truly do nothing is understandable. If you start posting and it still is an issue then we can discern stuff from it.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 17:14 GMT
#405
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
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On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

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On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


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On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 17:25 GMT
#413
On May 04 2015 02:20 ritoky wrote:
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On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


? we thinking of the same guy? prp is a low volume poster as both alignments. he is like a 9-11 page over course of an entire game kind of player from my experience.


He had 15 pages in NSM7.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 17:26 GMT
#414
Ebwop and that was over 3 days.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 18:35 GMT
#443
On May 04 2015 03:21 -Celestial- wrote:
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On May 04 2015 02:58 Superbia wrote:
Celestial, what do you think of Ritoky at this moment? What do you think of the fact that Ritoky's reads line up with mine?


Jury still out. I still think he's looked pretty scummy but he's been getting better and he was, after all, my weakest scum read in the first place.

The reads lining up isn't alignment indicative. Could be collusion, could be two people of either side coming up with the same thing, could be sheeping influence from the thread.


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On May 04 2015 03:02 y0su wrote:
the thought of -c- and scott being teammates crossed my mind doesn't feel right (experience might tell me otherwise)


I know you have no reason to believe my word on whether or not I'm on a team with scott but if I was on his team I wouldn't have bussed him so early and so quickly.


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On May 04 2015 03:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
-c- you seem really confident for being so new


As I mentioned in my last game I've played this quite a lot with people I've been in plays with (its a common team building and warm up activity in rehearsals). Plus I've played the SC2 mod. So I'm pretty comfortable with the game in general, just not the forum format in particular.


On a side note unless we seriously get some solid reads out of Stutters695 soon I'm going to start scumming him just for completely ignoring my repeated requests for sets of reads.


I don't really do d1. My reads are ass because there isn't nearly enough info to go off of and I'd rather sheep someone with a better track record or lynch someone who has no intention of playing. I think I've already posted about how much I did in NSM7 lol.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 18:56 GMT
#447
On May 04 2015 03:39 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:20 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


? we thinking of the same guy? prp is a low volume poster as both alignments. he is like a 9-11 page over course of an entire game kind of player from my experience.


He had 15 pages in NSM7.

if you want to lynch me for low post count then you should do it now because i'm going to post a lot less this game. that game (like many other games) i tried to spam myself town. that's also why i have joined out of time mafia, because i want to stop spamming so much. anyway the reason i haven't posted a lot is because i haven't been around.

@superbia @ritoky what do you think about celestial? he is coming on as super tryhard, like nothing i've ever seen before. he stands out a lot compared to the general relaxed atmosphere in the thread. didn't filter him yet (dunno how much i can get out of that this early anyway) but it's just something that been sticking out a lot.

also @superbia happy birthday!


Spam yourself town. LOL. Is that what you're calling that? You established yourself as pretty town d1 there, then went completely mia as town imploded. Then came back spamming bullshit. If that's your strategy as town you need to step your game up real bad.

So far this game you've less and I was even trying not to tunnel you after that trainwreck of a game. Yet somehow, you just have a very lynchable face yet again.

How about you read C's filter and give me a reason not to lynch you instead of just saying "that stands out"
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 19:06 GMT
#451
I could get behind a scott lynch.

Using SL's two posts to call him scum this early (the obsing shit is null as hell and maybe scummy on the town post, but he doesn't get into why it's scummy)

Not to mention his "reads"on disinformation and Tiktock could be justified but it comes off as him just throwing out "reads" to do it.

The best parts of his post revolve around reading slight town on people.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 19:09 GMT
#453
On May 04 2015 04:06 Tictock wrote:
Allright done with work for the day, so I can actually be active here for awhile.

A couple reads of the thread thus far have left me with the following read/feels.

-Celestial- A pretty clear town read. The initial reads are all very clear with good reasoning. While there is a bit of tunneling happening on scott celestial has given clear reasons why.

scott31337 Seems scummy for sure. I can looks past the initial voting stuff,to an extent, but the reactions to the pressure do not read as town to me at all.

Fecalfeast I was originally going to give FF a town read as he seems active and engadged, but looking at his filter I find nothing solid in his posts. That puts him neutral for me, with maybe just a hint of scum.

I'll have to dig through more filters to see if I can get more reads. I have a hard time putting much stock into my D1 reads with the level of fluff posts and pressure plays, but I'll keep posting about what is standing out to me.


FF is so clearly town it's unreal that you think he's neutral/slightly scummy.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 19:34 GMT
#467
On May 04 2015 04:26 Tictock wrote:
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On May 04 2015 04:09 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 04:06 Tictock wrote:
Allright done with work for the day, so I can actually be active here for awhile.

A couple reads of the thread thus far have left me with the following read/feels.

-Celestial- A pretty clear town read. The initial reads are all very clear with good reasoning. While there is a bit of tunneling happening on scott celestial has given clear reasons why.

scott31337 Seems scummy for sure. I can looks past the initial voting stuff,to an extent, but the reactions to the pressure do not read as town to me at all.

Fecalfeast I was originally going to give FF a town read as he seems active and engadged, but looking at his filter I find nothing solid in his posts. That puts him neutral for me, with maybe just a hint of scum.

I'll have to dig through more filters to see if I can get more reads. I have a hard time putting much stock into my D1 reads with the level of fluff posts and pressure plays, but I'll keep posting about what is standing out to me.


FF is so clearly town it's unreal that you think he's neutral/slightly scummy.


What makes him clearly town to you?


I really can't say exactly due to ongoing game. Scum FF posts often, but much less poignantly. Read some of his previous scum games and compare that to p4 of his filter here.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 04 2015 15:35 GMT
#620
I'm here, catching up.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 04 2015 16:14 GMT
#639
Prpl still missing I see.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 04 2015 19:30 GMT
#674
Sorry guys, busy day. I would still do Scott. Playing in 2 games is rough.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 04 2015 19:41 GMT
#680
On May 05 2015 04:34 The Shining wrote:
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On May 05 2015 04:27 ritoky wrote:
@shining: you don't think super's reading of your past game filters is at all alignment indicative?


I do. I thought I scummed him somewhere for it, I might not have posted it, though. He claimed to have read my past games but I'm not sure I believe him, unless it was "these posts look about the same size and posted the same, good enough." He claimed my filter here looked those town filters. If that were the case, he'd know I opened this game exactly like my last town game. Name 3 random ppl who have alrdy posted, call them scumteam, gg. He'd also know literally any time I've been scummed, I defend myself tooth and nail. So scumming me for being bitter and sardonic when he's the reason I'm bitter(scumming me over an HtS slip that was clearly in her filter) instead of looking at it objectively just looks like trying to push me.

It felt more to me like he asked for those games, skimmed 1 or 2, claimed to read them for town cred(what scum would read games to figure out meta? they know alignments) and then let it go.


I tend to do it as either alignment, but scum read for meta pretty often. It's an easy way to avoid making up a case if you know someone is town but can find inconsistencies between their play.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 04 2015 19:47 GMT
#684
Anyway, main reason I'm down for a scott lynch is his read on prpl. He has him as scummy then drops it to null when he still hadn't posted. If anything it should make him scummier. Additionally, leaving me off completely is weird when from someone who doesn't know me, I should be in the same boat as the other lurkers.

Not to mention unvoting his scum read and not having anything else in mind before bouncing.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 04 2015 19:47 GMT
#685
I know it's not too helpful but I'll be more around tonight as well.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 04 2015 20:10 GMT
#702
On May 05 2015 05:01 The Shining wrote:
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On May 05 2015 04:47 Stutters695 wrote:
I know it's not too helpful but I'll be more around tonight as well.


So after eod? =/

On and off before. I just don't have the time today :/
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 04 2015 21:33 GMT
#725
##vote: Scott31337

Just in case I'm not here closer to the deadline.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 04 2015 22:56 GMT
#820
On May 05 2015 06:33 Stutters695 wrote:
##vote: Scott31337

Just in case I'm not here closer to the deadline.


Forgot to put it in the voting thread and realized I was going to get modkilled. Get over yourself.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 01:34 GMT
#889
On May 05 2015 08:42 Half the Sky wrote:
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On May 05 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
If I had to give a strong super read I would say hes town for some comment like "we need a close race to get information" or something like that because I usualy say that when im town too because its probably true


I see where you're coming from with this and it would make sense in a world where Superbia is town. Right now with the rest of his behaviour at EoD, though, I'm not seeing it. As for me, I had my vote on where I felt it was mafia and I felt no need to change, and Superbia was only looking bad to one other person. I also had Celestial as town, so between that and my additional observation on Scott (not townreading Superbia prior to sheeping him on me early game) I honestly felt my vote was in a good place.


What do you make of Sup calling me out for "ninja" voting but not saying anything after about it? I saw you saying you were unsure on where he felt I was, but I'm torn on how to take that.

Part of me wants to say that's a really town reaction because he felt he caught scum. But he never acknowledged he was wrong and it implies he wasn't reading the thread that well while he was here.

I don't know.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 04:16 GMT
#890
No one is here? Wtf. Anyone want to comment on that?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 13:55 GMT
#898
I'm assuming it's a timestamp thing HtS, but my actual vote in the voting thread was only like 15 before deadline. I had forgotten to in there.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 14:25 GMT
#902
I will vote prpl tomorrow. However, I really do not like disinfo's EoD summary post. There are way scummier things about prpl than sitting back after voting HtS. The fact that he ignores those worries me and makes me think that might be an attempt at a bus if prpl flips later without actually trying to get him lynched. Not to mention that's the only positive of his list there and it ignores the biggest things against prpl.

Not going to worry about that yet, but just something to note if prpl flips scum.

So far this game he's ignored me calling him out after his "I tried to spam myself town" post. His HtS push is an OMGUS and an incoherent meta rant. He hasn't been stubborn as shit when people call him scum. This ain't town prpl.

Going to read sone filters while I'm at work, I'll be in and out today.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 15:23 GMT
#913
On May 05 2015 23:33 Superbia wrote:
Stutters, you were obviously around at EoD. You responded to my ninja ping out within seconds. You were lurking. Why the fuck would you lurk at EoD if you were town?

Nothing to say. I didn't agree with the HtS push, she clearly wasn't getting lynched and my scumread was. If it bothers you, I can post meaningless drivel until I see something to actually address but I'd rather not shit up the thread.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 15:24 GMT
#914
On May 05 2015 23:53 prplhz wrote:
i actually think stutters is best lynch tomorrow just for that single thing

Scum
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 16:04 GMT
#920
On May 05 2015 23:52 disformation wrote:
also inb4: Frustration is a sign for scum.

@Stutters:
Any other reads so far? Besides me and prplhz? Only other thing in your filter is talking about Superbia's ninja ping.


Softening on FF a bit. Not nearly lynch worthy yet, but he's going to take a reread.

This HtS discussion is stupid, she should not be lynched this early. She's easily one of the towniest players so far.

Sicklucker has been pretty scummy as well. Not a lot of content, but I don't like the stuff that's there either.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 17:25 GMT
#931
I'm kinda souring on Rit. Is he always this all over the place?

That question to HtS about prp is really wtf.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 17:37 GMT
#934
On May 06 2015 02:30 Half the Sky wrote:
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On May 06 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm kinda souring on Rit. Is he always this all over the place?

That question to HtS about prp is really wtf.


I have yet to play a game with ritoky as town tbh. I've played 2-3 games with him where he was scum, and one where he was third party serial killer.


Notice any differences this game?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 18:37 GMT
#945
On May 06 2015 02:40 ritoky wrote:
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On May 06 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm kinda souring on Rit. Is he always this all over the place?

That question to HtS about prp is really wtf.


your opinion is not very high on my list. and no i haven't been all over the place like this in a very long time. i also haven't rolled VT in over 10 games.

how is it wtf. she is posting giant posts about other people and really pushing them for info. i just don't see the conviction behind her push on prp. like she says lynch him with fire, but i don't get that sense. if someone votes on me EoD then fks off, i become a legit wagon, and he comes back makes 0 comment and moves onto a new target; i would be on him like white on rice. i was expecting more of a response.


Until he comes back, what can she do about it?

"Hey prpl, why don't you have any opinions?"

"Prpl, I'm still waiting"

"Prpl plz respond"

It shits up the thread for no real benefit.

Until he shows back up and actually has an opinion, we lynch him. There's nothing to discuss, this is how scum prpl do.

It totally makes sense, but I can see where you're coming from there.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 18:43 GMT
#949
On May 06 2015 03:40 Superbia wrote:
HtS how in the hell are you reading stutters as town?

How are you not?

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 18:51 GMT
#956
On May 06 2015 03:46 Superbia wrote:
Actually that's kind of unfair because you literally posted 10m ago, but it holds for EoD1 and probably d1 in its entirety.

Weekend, I hate d1 with a passion. This literally happened last (finished) game as well, except I was almost mislynched d1 for it.

Gonna lynch prpl with me?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 19:25 GMT
#979
On May 06 2015 03:57 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 03:37 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 06 2015 02:40 ritoky wrote:
On May 06 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm kinda souring on Rit. Is he always this all over the place?

That question to HtS about prp is really wtf.


your opinion is not very high on my list. and no i haven't been all over the place like this in a very long time. i also haven't rolled VT in over 10 games.

how is it wtf. she is posting giant posts about other people and really pushing them for info. i just don't see the conviction behind her push on prp. like she says lynch him with fire, but i don't get that sense. if someone votes on me EoD then fks off, i become a legit wagon, and he comes back makes 0 comment and moves onto a new target; i would be on him like white on rice. i was expecting more of a response.


Until he comes back, what can she do about it?

"Hey prpl, why don't you have any opinions?"

"Prpl, I'm still waiting"

"Prpl plz respond"

It shits up the thread for no real benefit.

Until he shows back up and actually has an opinion, we lynch him. There's nothing to discuss, this is how scum prpl do.

It totally makes sense, but I can see where you're coming from there.


phrase it in a manner that says "hey asshole, when you get back respond to this or i will lynch you" rather than "hey....so how was your day? by the way, y'know if you notice or have time, could you like please answer this question that i left? if not, okay i guess i understand"

there's a difference between inquiring about something cuz your interested and want to see where it goes and demanding an answer cuz that asshole is probably scum. she should be doing the latter, but seems to be doing the former.


That was already clear. Prpl doesn't need his hand held. If he steps up town can reevaluate but if not he's scum and he needs to die. Simple as that really.

Getting to your questions Super, I'm at work so it fluctuates depending how busy I am.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 19:55 GMT
#995
On May 06 2015 03:51 Superbia wrote:
Also Stutters, HtS, what do you think of your d1 performance?


Absolutely policy lynch worthy. Weekends I don't have a lot of time and I don't like d1 so I'd understand getting lynched then. Obviously I'd disagree but I get it. Although I'd rather have the time/motivation to do a true d1, I've found that at least once my posting picks up it reveals a lot about people who push me and why they do it.

Regarding HtS, she's one of the most town people here imo.

When I read her filter I see well reasoned posting from someone using all the information available to make informed conclusions on basically everything. If she's scum and putting this much into it she'll crack at some point, but I absolutely do not see it right now.

What makes you think prpl isn't a good lynch?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 21:27 GMT
#1011
On May 06 2015 05:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
current scummers: sl, shining, maybe super, maybe ritoky

maybes based on tonereads recently.

town: HtS, disambiguation, -c-

Playing video games til daypost

Why won't you lynch prpl? He afks, then sheeps a terrible wagon on HtS then does nothing until people actually start suspecting him.

I need to read up on Shining, I forgot about him. Otherwise I can see that list (add prpl) minus ritoky. He's said some stuff that's real weird but when looking at his filter it looks better. I wanted to case him but when I went to do it I actually liked it more.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 21:47 GMT
#1016
On May 06 2015 04:28 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 04:25 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 06 2015 03:57 ritoky wrote:
On May 06 2015 03:37 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 06 2015 02:40 ritoky wrote:
On May 06 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm kinda souring on Rit. Is he always this all over the place?

That question to HtS about prp is really wtf.


your opinion is not very high on my list. and no i haven't been all over the place like this in a very long time. i also haven't rolled VT in over 10 games.

how is it wtf. she is posting giant posts about other people and really pushing them for info. i just don't see the conviction behind her push on prp. like she says lynch him with fire, but i don't get that sense. if someone votes on me EoD then fks off, i become a legit wagon, and he comes back makes 0 comment and moves onto a new target; i would be on him like white on rice. i was expecting more of a response.


Until he comes back, what can she do about it?

"Hey prpl, why don't you have any opinions?"

"Prpl, I'm still waiting"

"Prpl plz respond"

It shits up the thread for no real benefit.

Until he shows back up and actually has an opinion, we lynch him. There's nothing to discuss, this is how scum prpl do.

It totally makes sense, but I can see where you're coming from there.


phrase it in a manner that says "hey asshole, when you get back respond to this or i will lynch you" rather than "hey....so how was your day? by the way, y'know if you notice or have time, could you like please answer this question that i left? if not, okay i guess i understand"

there's a difference between inquiring about something cuz your interested and want to see where it goes and demanding an answer cuz that asshole is probably scum. she should be doing the latter, but seems to be doing the former.


That was already clear. Prpl doesn't need his hand held. If he steps up town can reevaluate but if not he's scum and he needs to die. Simple as that really.

Getting to your questions Super, I'm at work so it fluctuates depending how busy I am.


You're getting this wrong. The manner in which the question is posed doesn't say anything about prp. It says something about HtS.


If it was an actual case, I would agree. The fact that it's on his absence/meta changes that. The only thing that changes that read is his analysis/play and we're arguing semantics at this point unless I'm completely misunderstanding you.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 22:18 GMT
#1027
On May 06 2015 06:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
dystopian future is posting more freely than I think a new scum would. So toneread I guess

sl rubbing me the wrong way seems more concerned with calling himself town than with finding scum,
shining should actually be stutters for only entering the tthread when talked about

y0su doesn't bring anything up in my brain when I think about him do you have something on him?

So you've got me as lynchable but not prpl. What in the flying fuck.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#1050
On May 06 2015 08:15 Superbia wrote:
Like I believe that there was a divide between team Superbia and team Celestial yesterday, and I think both teams are town at this point in time, which kind of explains the lack of activity at EoD1.

That leaves me with towns:
- Superbia
- Ritoky
- Celestial
- Half the Sky

I am fine with throwing prp in there as well. My town read on y0su is pretty much gone. I am expecting huge things from The Shining, as his pre-game excuse has vanished.

Why do you have a town read on prpl? Stop dodging the wisdom.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 23:30 GMT
#1056
On May 06 2015 08:28 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 06 2015 08:15 Superbia wrote:
Like I believe that there was a divide between team Superbia and team Celestial yesterday, and I think both teams are town at this point in time, which kind of explains the lack of activity at EoD1.

That leaves me with towns:
- Superbia
- Ritoky
- Celestial
- Half the Sky

I am fine with throwing prp in there as well. My town read on y0su is pretty much gone. I am expecting huge things from The Shining, as his pre-game excuse has vanished.

Why do you have a town read on prpl? Stop dodging the wisdom.


He has echoed my thoughts on multiple occasions. Why do you have him as scum?

Itt you're clearly not reading.

Lynch prpl, then Super. Easy skins easy life.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 23:50 GMT
#1059
On May 06 2015 08:32 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 08:30 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 06 2015 08:28 Superbia wrote:
On May 06 2015 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 06 2015 08:15 Superbia wrote:
Like I believe that there was a divide between team Superbia and team Celestial yesterday, and I think both teams are town at this point in time, which kind of explains the lack of activity at EoD1.

That leaves me with towns:
- Superbia
- Ritoky
- Celestial
- Half the Sky

I am fine with throwing prp in there as well. My town read on y0su is pretty much gone. I am expecting huge things from The Shining, as his pre-game excuse has vanished.

Why do you have a town read on prpl? Stop dodging the wisdom.


He has echoed my thoughts on multiple occasions. Why do you have him as scum?

Itt you're clearly not reading.

Lynch prpl, then Super. Easy skins easy life.


This is not how you solve the game. If you're town you need to re-think right now. Let's assume prp is scum. Who is scum other than prp? What's his team?


You seriously haven't read at all have you? As to why prpl needs to die + Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2015 23:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I will vote prpl tomorrow. However, I really do not like disinfo's EoD summary post. There are way scummier things about prpl than sitting back after voting HtS. The fact that he ignores those worries me and makes me think that might be an attempt at a bus if prpl flips later without actually trying to get him lynched. Not to mention that's the only positive of his list there and it ignores the biggest things against prpl.

Not going to worry about that yet, but just something to note if prpl flips scum.

So far this game he's ignored me calling him out after his "I tried to spam myself town" post. His HtS push is an OMGUS and an incoherent meta rant. He hasn't been stubborn as shit when people call him scum. This ain't town prpl.

Going to read sone filters while I'm at work, I'll be in and out today.



As for others + Show Spoiler +
On May 06 2015 06:27 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 05:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
current scummers: sl, shining, maybe super, maybe ritoky

maybes based on tonereads recently.

town: HtS, disambiguation, -c-

Playing video games til daypost

Why won't you lynch prpl? He afks, then sheeps a terrible wagon on HtS then does nothing until people actually start suspecting him.

I need to read up on Shining, I forgot about him. Otherwise I can see that list (add prpl) minus ritoky. He's said some stuff that's real weird but when looking at his filter it looks better. I wanted to case him but when I went to do it I actually liked it more.




You've asked questions, never followed up on them since eod, tried to lynch HtS then backed off because you "read" her scum games, and are towning the scummiest fucker in history and justifying it as he had similar thoughts.

I do have other scum reads, none as strong as prpl although you're getting pretty close.

I'll worry about his teammates once I confirm he's scum.

Instead of wasting your time on me (spoiler alert, I'm not getting lynched. I'm here now and I've just gotten started) give me actual reasons why I shouldn't lynch prpl and we can find someone else. Until then, while you're hard defending my strongest scum read, I'm not going to stress too much about your thoughts.






Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 23:51 GMT
#1060
Sorry, Cinco de Mayo means margaritas and sombreros so I'll be on and off, but I'm not going anywhere for a while.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 23:55 GMT
#1064
On May 06 2015 08:09 prplhz wrote:
eh i'm at reconsidering things. i had FF sort of townish so that doesn't really give me much new. trying not to tunnel anybody like i tunneled bourneq last game.

like, the reason i think hts is scum is because she called me scum for doing X without considering that a lot of people agreed with me on X. she's treating me different for some reason but then i just remembered that in last student mini she did kind of the same thing, she metad onegu (and on false meta but she didn't know that) but refused to meta me. i'm just trying not to tunnel.

gonna read some stutters games and see if he really play like this d1 because then i'm really nowhere.

i have you as pretty firm town though. same with ritoky. guess i'm susceptible to town read people who think roughly the same things as me.

Aaaaaaand?

Also she fought against my case on you last time because you were doing stuff d1. This game, not so much.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 23:57 GMT
#1067
On May 06 2015 08:53 Superbia wrote:
How many times did you edit that post before you posted it?

0. Phone posting, so actually pulling up quotes is a bitch.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 00:36 GMT
#1069
On May 06 2015 09:00 Superbia wrote:
Hmm okay. Can you give some thoughts on the people you have not mentioned yet on the list above? Apologies if you have mentioned them somewhere before. I always prefer to get your current reads and I don't really want to filter dive every time before I interact.

Yeah, if you want any detail it'll take a little. Short answers:

TT: could be scum or just inexperienced. Currently not someone I'd lynch today

Disinfo: would strongly consider lynching if prpl is scum. Without rereading, he doesn't stand out much except something I noted earlier between him and prpl.

Yosu: basically forgot he was playing, have to read more

Shining: ditto

SL: shit load of associations, way too early for them. Still would rather prpl but once I really get into reading up on everyone, I could easily see him.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 01:02 GMT
#1072
On May 06 2015 09:46 Superbia wrote:
If you have a red check on prp you should just claim tbh.

Not a cop. He's being worthless. Worthless prpl = scum prpl
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 01:23 GMT
#1073
Where is everyone else?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 14:06 GMT
#1112
I'm awake, going to work but I should have some time today.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 16:30 GMT
#1150
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?

Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 16:53 GMT
#1171
On May 07 2015 01:36 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?

Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds.


50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play.

0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta)

thats how I got 50-75%

Do you remember what game he claimed RB as scum in? 75% is a strong estimate. That looks real bad for you (like almost have to lynch you d3 bad) if he flips town so I want to see where you're coming from.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:02 GMT
#1175
On May 07 2015 01:56 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 01:53 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:36 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?

Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds.


50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play.

0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta)

thats how I got 50-75%

Do you remember what game he claimed RB as scum in? 75% is a strong estimate. That looks real bad for you (like almost have to lynch you d3 bad) if he flips town so I want to see where you're coming from.


Hts just linked it. Its not me to say if you should lynch me if im wrong or not. But making mathematical mechanical game decisions is kind of my town play style and im right more then im wrong

I'll check it out when I have more time, but if you're wrong you've contributed next to nothing and will have caused a mislynch based on probability rather than anything really mafia related. I'll check out your previous games tonight/tomorrow (no rush on that really since it wouldn't be applicable until d3 in this case), but surely you can see how bad that would look.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:18 GMT
#1181
On May 07 2015 02:01 sicklucker wrote:
It can also be said you know im wrong and are setting me up for a mislynch. Anything is possible keep your eyes open make the best judgement youb can and prepare to be wrong alot

Shit, if I were scum and knew I'd kick back and laugh my way to d3. I want you to contribute something outside of the RB point so we have something to actually judge you on.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:20 GMT
#1183
On May 07 2015 02:10 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 02:02 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:56 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:53 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:36 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?

Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds.


50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play.

0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta)

thats how I got 50-75%

Do you remember what game he claimed RB as scum in? 75% is a strong estimate. That looks real bad for you (like almost have to lynch you d3 bad) if he flips town so I want to see where you're coming from.


Hts just linked it. Its not me to say if you should lynch me if im wrong or not. But making mathematical mechanical game decisions is kind of my town play style and im right more then im wrong

I'll check it out when I have more time, but if you're wrong you've contributed next to nothing and will have caused a mislynch based on probability rather than anything really mafia related. I'll check out your previous games tonight/tomorrow (no rush on that really since it wouldn't be applicable until d3 in this case), but surely you can see how bad that would look.


Im offering you a really good lynch math does not lie! This preflip blame is hella scummy


We've had a really good lynch since n1 and you're directing attention away from him on the basis of a RB claim. That's hella scummy.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:24 GMT
#1185
Vote is on prpl, I don't like this.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:30 GMT
#1192
On May 07 2015 02:24 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 02:20 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:10 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:02 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:56 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:53 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:36 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?

Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds.


50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play.

0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta)

thats how I got 50-75%

Do you remember what game he claimed RB as scum in? 75% is a strong estimate. That looks real bad for you (like almost have to lynch you d3 bad) if he flips town so I want to see where you're coming from.


Hts just linked it. Its not me to say if you should lynch me if im wrong or not. But making mathematical mechanical game decisions is kind of my town play style and im right more then im wrong

I'll check it out when I have more time, but if you're wrong you've contributed next to nothing and will have caused a mislynch based on probability rather than anything really mafia related. I'll check out your previous games tonight/tomorrow (no rush on that really since it wouldn't be applicable until d3 in this case), but surely you can see how bad that would look.


Im offering you a really good lynch math does not lie! This preflip blame is hella scummy


We've had a really good lynch since n1 and you're directing attention away from him on the basis of a RB claim. That's hella scummy.


am assuming you mean prpl? if he was such a good lynch, why did you do nothing to get him lynched?


Obviously.

My points are all throughout my filter and they haven't changed because he still is doing nothing. If you want me to rehash everything into a 5p essay I can, but it should be completely unnecessary. The dude is scum.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:40 GMT
#1201
On May 07 2015 02:25 ritoky wrote:
EBWOP: why did you do nothing d1

Go read any game I play lol. If you get 3 pages out of me d1 it's a miracle. Honestly, it's not the best in newbies, but it's very established for my meta. There is a reason HtS was on my side about it d1.

Anyway that's like the 7th time I've explained it. Eyes forward now, I'm done with that.

Why don't we lynch prpl?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:56 GMT
#1216
On May 07 2015 02:45 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 02:40 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:25 ritoky wrote:
EBWOP: why did you do nothing d1

Go read any game I play lol. If you get 3 pages out of me d1 it's a miracle. Honestly, it's not the best in newbies, but it's very established for my meta. There is a reason HtS was on my side about it d1.

Anyway that's like the 7th time I've explained it. Eyes forward now, I'm done with that.

Why don't we lynch prpl?


i did read your filter,

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 03:39 prplhz wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:20 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


? we thinking of the same guy? prp is a low volume poster as both alignments. he is like a 9-11 page over course of an entire game kind of player from my experience.


He had 15 pages in NSM7.

if you want to lynch me for low post count then you should do it now because i'm going to post a lot less this game. that game (like many other games) i tried to spam myself town. that's also why i have joined out of time mafia, because i want to stop spamming so much. anyway the reason i haven't posted a lot is because i haven't been around.

@superbia @ritoky what do you think about celestial? he is coming on as super tryhard, like nothing i've ever seen before. he stands out a lot compared to the general relaxed atmosphere in the thread. didn't filter him yet (dunno how much i can get out of that this early anyway) but it's just something that been sticking out a lot.

also @superbia happy birthday!


Spam yourself town. LOL. Is that what you're calling that? You established yourself as pretty town d1 there, then went completely mia as town imploded. Then came back spamming bullshit. If that's your strategy as town you need to step your game up real bad.

So far this game you've less and I was even trying not to tunnel you after that trainwreck of a game. Yet somehow, you just have a very lynchable face yet again.

How about you read C's filter and give me a reason not to lynch you instead of just saying "that stands out"


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On May 05 2015 01:14 Stutters695 wrote:
Prpl still missing I see.



here are all of your posts before the flip on prpl. this is not him "being a good target since d1" or you pushing a lynch on him. yes you had a scum read, but for him to be a "good target" that means you have to push him as the lynch candidate and really make the case for him being scum. you made no cases, never called for his lynch, and instead did a lot of this:

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On May 05 2015 04:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy day. I would still do Scott. Playing in 2 games is rough.


so sorry if i am not buying your revisionist history.


Since n1 not d1, what the fuck are you on about revisionist history. I gave him d1 to do anything. He didn't. He still hasn't, that's scum prpl in a nutshell. HtS made additional points. If you won't do it from my posts, read hers and lynch him.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 18:43 GMT
#1244
On May 07 2015 02:58 ritoky wrote:
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On May 07 2015 02:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:45 ritoky wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:40 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:25 ritoky wrote:
EBWOP: why did you do nothing d1

Go read any game I play lol. If you get 3 pages out of me d1 it's a miracle. Honestly, it's not the best in newbies, but it's very established for my meta. There is a reason HtS was on my side about it d1.

Anyway that's like the 7th time I've explained it. Eyes forward now, I'm done with that.

Why don't we lynch prpl?


i did read your filter,

On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


On May 04 2015 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 03:39 prplhz wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:20 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
[quote]
been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
[quote]
this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


? we thinking of the same guy? prp is a low volume poster as both alignments. he is like a 9-11 page over course of an entire game kind of player from my experience.


He had 15 pages in NSM7.

if you want to lynch me for low post count then you should do it now because i'm going to post a lot less this game. that game (like many other games) i tried to spam myself town. that's also why i have joined out of time mafia, because i want to stop spamming so much. anyway the reason i haven't posted a lot is because i haven't been around.

@superbia @ritoky what do you think about celestial? he is coming on as super tryhard, like nothing i've ever seen before. he stands out a lot compared to the general relaxed atmosphere in the thread. didn't filter him yet (dunno how much i can get out of that this early anyway) but it's just something that been sticking out a lot.

also @superbia happy birthday!


Spam yourself town. LOL. Is that what you're calling that? You established yourself as pretty town d1 there, then went completely mia as town imploded. Then came back spamming bullshit. If that's your strategy as town you need to step your game up real bad.

So far this game you've less and I was even trying not to tunnel you after that trainwreck of a game. Yet somehow, you just have a very lynchable face yet again.

How about you read C's filter and give me a reason not to lynch you instead of just saying "that stands out"


On May 05 2015 01:14 Stutters695 wrote:
Prpl still missing I see.



here are all of your posts before the flip on prpl. this is not him "being a good target since d1" or you pushing a lynch on him. yes you had a scum read, but for him to be a "good target" that means you have to push him as the lynch candidate and really make the case for him being scum. you made no cases, never called for his lynch, and instead did a lot of this:

On May 05 2015 04:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy day. I would still do Scott. Playing in 2 games is rough.


so sorry if i am not buying your revisionist history.


Since n1 not d1, what the fuck are you on about revisionist history. I gave him d1 to do anything. He didn't. He still hasn't, that's scum prpl in a nutshell. HtS made additional points. If you won't do it from my posts, read hers and lynch him.


the only difference btwn d1 and n1 is scott flipped town. why does scott flipping town make prpl more likely mafia?


Because that gave him 48 hours to post and he hadn't done dick. Because he afk'd in his previous game as town for a day, he deserved the benefit of the doubt in case the weekend was bad but it's Wednesday now and he's still bad.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 18:46 GMT
#1246
On May 07 2015 03:37 -Celestial- wrote:
Like...right now I don't know what to think on Superbia. I think sicklucker has got a point but I'm all over the place on the guy.

But prplhz is just...bright crimson right now. He's done nothing but lurk and try to pretend to contribute. And yet Superbia has been hard town reading him literally the entire game because "he's thinking the same as me, making the same reads" despite the fact he's made virtually no reads at all.

Seriously just wtf. prplhz looks terrible and Superbia's constant defending is honestly weirding me out. I almost think it would be worth lynching Superbia right now because of that one thing.


What? No. You lynch the bright crimson scum first. That's like mafia 101.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 19:42 GMT
#1255
So y0su explain why SL would push Super like that scum on scum please. It's highly unlikely that they're both scum together based off of today's interactions.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 20:21 GMT
#1279
On May 07 2015 04:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, I think I asked you this question before, but I don't recall an answer earlier and I cannot find it in your filter.

If prplhz disappeared from the game, for whom would you vote?

TBF I've been pretty tunneled on getting him lynched. If I had to choose immediately (like minutes to the lynch) I'd sheep on you.

If I had time to read I'd probably settle between disf, shining, tt and y0su. I'll probably read up on them tonight anyway to get my thoughts out there.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 20:25 GMT
#1284
On May 07 2015 05:13 Superbia wrote:
K nvm, prp's filter is way different than his VT filter (way more active as VT, more jokey, more one-liners). This wagon is okay-ish. Pressure definitely needed.

You're helpless. 10 minutes is also not enough time to analyze meta. Did you even look at a scum game?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 20:28 GMT
#1290
But you still won't lynch him?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:00 GMT
#1377
On May 07 2015 07:32 prplhz wrote:
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On May 07 2015 03:00 ritoky wrote:
prp is a role or mafia, take that 1 to the bank. had that read since like his 3rd or 4th post. waiting on his claim.

what the fuck is this even


I hate to say it, but I'm actually with prpl on this. You accuse me of trying to revise my d1 while blatantly slinging this shit? You had him as your 3rd/4th towniest person at like his 3rd or 4th post and now you're demanding he claim, which at best trades for a PR when we could just lynch him? I don't like that.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:00 GMT
#1378
Ebwop that was @Ritoky, didn't expect it to hide his quote.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#1382
On May 07 2015 07:50 ritoky wrote:
am gone until later. cross your fingers for no more preg complications.

Just saw this, hope everything goes ok.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:33 GMT
#1384
Bolts game, be back later
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:35 GMT
#1385
Depending on Rit's answers him. I have tomorrow during the day off so I'll get a full set of reads off then.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 07 2015 14:08 GMT
#1426
On May 07 2015 21:49 Half the Sky wrote:
If prplhz does flip scum I think ritoky and Superbia should be revisited as both hard towned prplhz for mindmeld or something.

Just woke up. Gonna get some thoughts out today since work + another Bolts game tonight.

Tyler "Literally Stamkos" Johnson is the best thing ever btw.

Anyway, first impressions are it looks significantly better for Rit (more null/slight town than anything) . He "mindmelded" or w/e but dropped it when prpl went afk which would be the correct call.

The biggest question imo is on Super. He's hard defended someone who hasn't done anything for 5 days basically.

It's really hard to say scum would hard defend scum for that long over such shitty reasons. And when he finally got off the defense it felt unnatural as fuck. Unless he was stalling for prpl to come back from outside information, why not just cut your losses?

I don't get it, feels too obvious almost.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 07 2015 14:40 GMT
#1427
And called into work early, I fucking hate my job. 2-9 switched for 11-8 is a totally fair trade right?

I'll be here to get stuff out when I can.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 16:29 GMT
#1659
On May 08 2015 23:36 Half the Sky wrote:
I also find it amusing that Stutters has gone completely dead silent since his last post. Probably threw in the towel.

Nah, exam week. 2 games going on. I just haven't had the time to play how I really want to. Apologies for that, I miscalculated the time investment to really read two games.

If you guys want to vig me, I completely understand, no hard feelings. I'm running some errands before I have to work. Now that my exams are done I'll have significantly more time but my weekend is pretty booked with mother's day/going to a theme park Saturday (20 dollar tickets ftw).

If you want I can explain whatever questions you have, but I know it looks real bad and it won't get better until Sunday evening.

I'll get some reads out by EoN so you guys have something to go off of when I'm gone.





Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 18:17 GMT
#1664
On May 09 2015 01:35 Tictock wrote:
Oh Stutters is around!

So Stutters, if you were Vig. Who would you shoot tonight?

Semi around. Honestly, from an outside perspective from the people in this game SL, myself or Shining.

If you know my meta, it's a bad choice to shoot me (if anything, I play way more actively as scum and put out slam dunk cases on my partners but my town pushes are laughably bad by comparison) however my inability to actually play this game/awareness of this obfuscates any meta read off of that.

SL/Shining because they should know better than they're playing and any one of us could easily be scum just shitting around doing such.

Otherwise disfo/y0su because I can't read newbies for shit.

That might be changed if I get the time to actually filter read, but honestly unless prpl didn't get lynched somehow Vigs are best spent taking out unreadables/lurkers.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 19:47 GMT
#1666
On May 09 2015 03:54 Half the Sky wrote:
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On May 09 2015 03:17 Stutters695 wrote:
That might be changed if I get the time to actually filter read, but honestly unless prpl didn't get lynched somehow Vigs are best spent taking out unreadables/lurkers.


prplhz was lynched. He flipped RB. That's why we're asking the next scum....

I'm aware. I was saying that if some shit happened that ended up with him alive, it would take something like that(confirmed scum) for me to shoot for scum over a coinflip lurker like the ones we have in this game.

Obviously, it doesn't help my case at all and would vehemently disagree with shooting me, it's better to shoot one of us than hunting scum outside that group with the shot to avoid a repeat of the d1 lynch with everyone sheeping.

Honestly, I'm not in a position to find scum yet. I'm just now catching up completely but I'll try to get something out right before EoN.

Although I'm bummed the Bolts lost, it greatly reduces my workload so hopefully I'll have more time.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 22:33 GMT
#1706
On May 09 2015 06:15 -Celestial- wrote:
Except its directly pertinent to the night kills because if I'm right Superbia could be shooting the wrong person.

Explain why you outright believe ritoky's claim that disfo was claiming for him despite the fact that disfo has NOT confirmed this yet.

Compare VII (town) and this game.

You honestly don't even have to read his filter, just skim it and you'll see a remarkable difference.

If you do want to look it over, let me point you to pg 10/11 of VII. Prpl was active d1/n1 (9ish pg filter) then fell off d2/n2 when I started pushing him for the same reasons in that game. His reaction was to not push anything when he didn't have time and just straight defend him being town. Once the pressure was off he went back to low content, large quantity (not bad, just a lot of one/two liners related to the game). After the game, it made me see a larger difference in his play after misreading his meta twice (lack of defensiveness and longer posts that say less).

Dinner rush is happening, so I don't think I'll be around before the EoN again. If you shoot me no hard feelings.

Apologies for my play, I just haven't had enough time to really build a case.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 22:59 GMT
#1719
That was about what Super asked me. Just quoted the wrong post since I'm phone posting from work.

Also I forgot to add this. If for some reason Super's kill doesn't happen, do not lynch him until there is a CC. If he only gets CCd in LYLO, lynch whoever CCs.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 23:02 GMT
#1724
GG obs plz
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 11 2015 16:53 GMT
#2116
Sorry everyone, I really wasn't here much

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