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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 08 2015 23:01 GMT
#1721
[image loading]

Day Three


disformation the Town Doctor has been killed.
Stutters695 the Mafia Good has been killed.

It is time to determine the next lynch.
The cycle ends at Sunday, May 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) at

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 08 2015 23:01 GMT
#1722
Gotem
Minimal effort.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 08 2015 23:01 GMT
#1723
YES!

<3 you Superbia!
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 08 2015 23:02 GMT
#1724
GG obs plz
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 08 2015 23:03 GMT
#1725
GG! go town!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 08 2015 23:04 GMT
#1726
GGs Stutters and disformation.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#1727
GG boys.
Minimal effort.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#1728
On May 09 2015 07:57 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 07:53 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 09 2015 07:40 The Shining wrote:
Ugh.

This is why I said I'd speak to ritoky about this post eon, when the nk and shot flipped. Dis hadn't come back yet to refute the cc but I did pick up on what y0su did, though I found it far less likely and believable.

Especially since both blues have claimed. It could be a ploy to get the doc save onto him and leave Super open for the nk, instead of doc saving Super.

Of course, since it's been speculated on, scum has a better idea of what to do now. Meh.


Again, in no universe does scum kill the second claim here. It just makes no sense in a non-PM environment where you can't privately set up your gambit with people you trust. The first claim is almost definitely the actual real one.

The sole way you get away with this is if there are only newbies on the scum team and they're not listening to their coaches. Which I find hard to believe.


On May 09 2015 07:49 The Shining wrote:
On May 09 2015 07:45 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 09 2015 07:33 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 09 2015 06:15 -Celestial- wrote:
Except its directly pertinent to the night kills because if I'm right Superbia could be shooting the wrong person.

Explain why you outright believe ritoky's claim that disfo was claiming for him despite the fact that disfo has NOT confirmed this yet.

Compare VII (town) and this game.

You honestly don't even have to read his filter, just skim it and you'll see a remarkable difference.

If you do want to look it over, let me point you to pg 10/11 of VII. Prpl was active d1/n1 (9ish pg filter) then fell off d2/n2 when I started pushing him for the same reasons in that game. His reaction was to not push anything when he didn't have time and just straight defend him being town. Once the pressure was off he went back to low content, large quantity (not bad, just a lot of one/two liners related to the game). After the game, it made me see a larger difference in his play after misreading his meta twice (lack of defensiveness and longer posts that say less).

Dinner rush is happening, so I don't think I'll be around before the EoN again. If you shoot me no hard feelings.

Apologies for my play, I just haven't had enough time to really build a case.


...what on earth are you talking about here and why are you linking me to prplhz when I'm questioning y0su and asking him about ritoky?


He quoted the wrong post but Super did ask him to explain his entire thought process, read and push.


Oh, right. That was very confusing. X-D


I agree but regardless of the validity, us speculating and disproving it at night isn't the best move. Better off leaving scum drowning in the wifom and pinging ritos yosu during day phase.



Except if Mafia had killed LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE that night we would have been basically screwed. Because the entire day would have been spent arguing the merits of disformation and ritoky. And if ritoky had "unclaimed" then he'd STILL look horrible and probably be the lynch that day.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#1729
Good shot btw.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 08 2015 23:06 GMT
#1730
I'm thinking the wagons for today should be y0su and......maaaayyyybbbe sicklucker? I'm more convinced of the former than the latter.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 23:08 GMT
#1731
Do a little dance.

Make a little love.

Shoot scum tonight. Gj super, GG and gj Dis, gg Stutters.

Only gf left. Kind of torn between ritoky, yosu, sl for last scummer. Need to do some reading.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 08 2015 23:09 GMT
#1732
ritoky's questioning of Stutters N1 makes him most probable town.
Superbia obviously confirmed town.
Most confident of Shining/Celestial too.

Honestly it's down to y0su, tictock and sicklucker.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 08 2015 23:12 GMT
#1733
This message is for the Mafia Godfather.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 08 2015 23:15 GMT
#1734
On May 09 2015 08:08 The Shining wrote:
Do a little dance.

Make a little love.

Shoot scum tonight. Gj super, GG and gj Dis, gg Stutters.

Only gf left. Kind of torn between ritoky, yosu, sl for last scummer. Need to do some reading.


Why ritoky? Are you suggesting the post counterclaim? Now that Stutters flipped, I can explain a town motivation for that.
It's a newbie game, he could try and WIFOM the night kill....maybe?

I have seen some town/some scum motivations in his actions over the first cycle or two. But I really...
Do you think he'd question Stutters the way he did if he were scum?

Not sure if ritoky would be the type to bus his entire team like that. Based on his scum survivalist meta, probably not.
I don't think he's a high risk player.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 23:16 GMT
#1735
On May 09 2015 08:09 Half the Sky wrote:
ritoky's questioning of Stutters N1 makes him most probable town.
Superbia obviously confirmed town.
Most confident of Shining/Celestial too.

Honestly it's down to y0su, tictock and sicklucker.


Mmmmm that's what I was going to read for. Reads, interactions, pushes on Stutters. The point on ritoky does help him, I suppose. Maybe newbie scum team would in fact fall for that, idk.

And I forgot TT. Yuck. Yeah need to revisit him too. Super conftown. Anyone attempting to claim vig and shooting Stutters is obvscum.

Lynch yosu today imo
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 08 2015 23:17 GMT
#1736
sicklucker has played the way he has as both alignments. Lynching him would be a policy lynch.

y0su is the one that needs most pressure I'd think.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 08 2015 23:21 GMT
#1737
I think y0su is a fine target for now. I'll re-check all the filters somewhere tomorrow, but for now I'm fine with pushing y0su.
Minimal effort.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 23:26 GMT
#1738
On May 09 2015 08:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 08:08 The Shining wrote:
Do a little dance.

Make a little love.

Shoot scum tonight. Gj super, GG and gj Dis, gg Stutters.

Only gf left. Kind of torn between ritoky, yosu, sl for last scummer. Need to do some reading.


Why ritoky? Are you suggesting the post counterclaim? Now that Stutters flipped, I can explain a town motivation for that.
It's a newbie game, he could try and WIFOM the night kill....maybe?

I have seen some town/some scum motivations in his actions over the first cycle or two. But I really...
Do you think he'd question Stutters the way he did if he were scum?

Not sure if ritoky would be the type to bus his entire team like that. Based on his scum survivalist meta, probably not.
I don't think he's a high risk player.


Pretty much. But yeah, it's looking a lot less likely with the Stutters questioning. Also, adhering to that survivalist meta, it would be pretty obvious to out yourself at night like that now that we know he isn't the doc(scum would know the nk was on dis and effectively disprove ritos cc). It's too sloppy for scum now that I think about it, especially for a vet.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 08 2015 23:26 GMT
#1739
Went through Tictock's filter. He is suggesting sicklucker might be guilty of TMI. Looks to me that sicklucker is his top scumread.

y0su and ritoky were both in the red for him but not as much.

Tictock, mind elaborating what your thoughts are now with the flips on Stutters (mafia vanilla) and disinformation (medic)?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 08 2015 23:28 GMT
#1740
I still can't figure out who y0su's top scumreads are, besides myself. I mean, obviously he wanted to shoot me based on night actions....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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