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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 10 2015 20:27 GMT
#2061
On May 11 2015 05:22 y0su wrote:
It didn't help that BH (coach) had a very different schedule (time zones). I came into d1 completely cold (hence so many "how does this work? What's going on? questions)


That's pretty unfortunate. :-\

Worked out not too bad though. Look at it this way: you managed to be the last surviving mafia on your team in your first game. That definitely counts for something.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 20:27 GMT
#2062
On May 11 2015 05:26 plotspot wrote:
huh? What does it mean "y0su has fled"? Can you just give up like this?


yes you can ff, esp 2 and a half hrs before a deadline when the majority vote is on you and probably not changing.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 10 2015 20:28 GMT
#2063
It means I'm just setting up shop further west!
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 10 2015 20:28 GMT
#2064
On May 11 2015 05:26 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 05:24 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 11 2015 05:23 ritoky wrote:

-c- donkeyed it up :D


Go screw yourself.


it's a game dude, don't take things personally or you won't survive in mafia.


I take things personally when you start insulting me. So yeah.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 10 2015 20:29 GMT
#2065
gg, wp town. Didn't really follow it closely but it seems you guys figured out well that you were fighting amongst yourselves at some point and once you started townreading each other the pieces fell into place. Mafia got out activitied.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 10 2015 20:29 GMT
#2066
On May 11 2015 05:26 plotspot wrote:
huh? What does it mean "y0su has fled"? Can you just give up like this?


He conceded...meaning we bumped the lynch up three hours to save everyone time.

Thanks for playing all! Congrats to town. Some pretty strong performances all around.

On May 11 2015 05:15 Half the Sky wrote:
I actually wanted to roll mafia this game as well.


Says the person who PM'd me prior to the game starting specifically asking for a town coach -_-
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 20:29 GMT
#2067
On May 11 2015 05:28 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 05:26 ritoky wrote:
On May 11 2015 05:24 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 11 2015 05:23 ritoky wrote:

-c- donkeyed it up :D


Go screw yourself.


it's a game dude, don't take things personally or you won't survive in mafia.


I take things personally when you start insulting me. So yeah.


Never once insulted you. I will maintain this until the end of time. No mod contacted me about my play. Everything I stated was a direct relation to your play and nothing about you.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 10 2015 20:29 GMT
#2068
Lmao @ Cel. But I won't lie, ritoky and yosu went back and forth like 50x in my mind. And it's nothing special but this one here

I wanted feedback on it so badly cuz I rarely do full blown posts like that and I want to know what to work on.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 10 2015 20:30 GMT
#2069
On May 11 2015 05:26 plotspot wrote:
huh? What does it mean "y0su has fled"? Can you just give up like this?


Mafia are permitted to concede at a reasonable point in the game. They lost a ML with the vigishot and y0su was the only one left.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 10 2015 20:31 GMT
#2070
On May 11 2015 05:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 05:15 Half the Sky wrote:
I actually wanted to roll mafia this game as well.


Says the person who PM'd me prior to the game starting specifically asking for a town coach -_-


Well I have no idea where the RNG gods will smile or frown. I leave that to the RNG gods.

Still much appreciated Kita. My town game needed a load of work, and I'm glad I just had some input trying to work on my weaknesses this game. <3
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 10 2015 20:32 GMT
#2071
On May 11 2015 05:26 plotspot wrote:
huh? What does it mean "y0su has fled"? Can you just give up like this?

If you're the last scum and don't feel like you can win the game, I believe you're allowed to concede to not drag it out longer. Or something like that.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 10 2015 20:34 GMT
#2072
On May 11 2015 05:24 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 05:23 ritoky wrote:

-c- donkeyed it up :D


Go screw yourself.


Honestly, the reference "town donkey" is noted about a town player who is playing suboptimally. Basically town players who play like scum, like sicklucker. You will hear others use the term "donkey" or "town donkey" it just means that your play isn't helping town. That's all he means. Personally I found your play more helpful than I did ritoky's but like I said in D1, ritoky and I had different perspectives on reading people based on my experience with players and his lack of experience with those same players.

To me, in D1, not having the same reads as someone isn't cause for concern, it's how they get there. Which that mentality worked in getting y0su. So I don't feel so badly now lol.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 10 2015 20:34 GMT
#2073
Damn, looking at the obs QT, scott31337 got pretty close there with even his very first read of disformation / prplhz / studders.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 20:38 GMT
#2074
Anywayz, ty for the carry after day 1 super and hts. Sorry about my skepticism toward you all game HtS, it's just for some reason you have a way with new players and swaying them into your loving embrace. That terrifies me in games like this, so I refused to town read you all game out of a similar paranoia that you hold for me LOL.

Honestly -c-, I don't feel I said anything wrong or out of line to you; but if any of it struck home, sorry. It is a game, I leave it all in the thread and take none of it away. I also used to get angry like you did in this game and so I see a little of the old me in you, and I sincerely hope you can get past it as a player. You will drastically improve if you can stem the anger and maintain a level head.

Was fun game, baller day 1 into useless rest of game. Sounds exactly like my town play.

Cya in the next game nerds.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 10 2015 20:38 GMT
#2075
On May 11 2015 05:29 ritoky wrote:

Never once insulted you. I will maintain this until the end of time. No mod contacted me about my play. Everything I stated was a direct relation to your play and nothing about you.


I'm not surprised. I didn't end up actually complaining to anyone about it.

You did insult me. It was a direct insult. And its amusing you have a go at my play when you did absolutely nothing to help town this game.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 10 2015 20:42 GMT
#2076
On May 11 2015 05:29 The Shining wrote:
Lmao @ Cel. But I won't lie, ritoky and yosu went back and forth like 50x in my mind. And it's nothing special but this one here

I wanted feedback on it so badly cuz I rarely do full blown posts like that and I want to know what to work on.


Your link is broken, but I found it anyway, heh.

Was a good case. Personally I hadn't liked the way he split up his reads across two posts either. Especially given the way one half of them was pretty town and the other half pretty scum.


As for how to improve it...personally for me I'd have preferred to see it formatted a bit differently. Each quote with a comment specific to that quote underneath so it was easier to follow. As it was it was kinda "Bleh, wall of quotes" "Bleh wall of texts" and honestly the very first time I saw it I just skimmed before going back later when I was firming up my PoE list.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 10 2015 20:44 GMT
#2077
that was honestly because it was 10 am (i'd been up for 30 hours) and I was doing my list straight down from the OP

I literally couldn't read anymore :D
(much less make up reads based on what I was reading)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 20:49:24
May 10 2015 20:45 GMT
#2078
But Celestial, I'll be very honest with you here...this batch of veterans are normally very tame. Criticism of gameplay is the normal in mafia, even with town/town interactions - a really good scum player will know how to get into people's heads, and I've seen it before with some of the heavier tone players like geript/rayn/holyflare/JAT, etc.

And that's something I can safely say for most of this community, things get heated in game, but people drop it after post-game. Even when town loses (and there's a lot of people fussed about the result) people get things off their chest post-game, mods are there to keep the peace, and people move on afterwards.

It's honestly something you (and even I to an extent) need to work on. Even as town, you're not going to be perfect overnight.

Sorry about my skepticism toward you all game HtS, it's just for some reason you have a way with new players and swaying them into your loving embrace. That terrifies me in games like this, so I refused to town read you all game out of a similar paranoia that you hold for me LOL.


Also rit, I have done this as both alignments. Beyond my alignment, part of me thinks "if this newb has this question why isn't the newbie asking a coach" but if you interpreted that as buddying I can see why you'd think that to be a problem. People who know my play better should treat that as NAI, though I was trying to use WIFOM as an argument because that was y0su's main argument against me.

I just had some difficulty trying to make sense I wasn't scumming people for things that didn't necssarily make them scum, and then stacking against experience. It took a while for me to get out of it on ritoky until I realised why he thought y0su was town...and why he might be wrong.

Live and learn.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 20:48:04
May 10 2015 20:47 GMT
#2079
As for Blazinghand's timezone being a problem - yeh that 11h time difference holy shit, and I think Stutters is pretty far west too. So you were quite isolated once prplhz got lynched.

Unlucky, that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 10 2015 20:53 GMT
#2080
Anyhow much <3 to town....and <3 to Kita, Rasputin and cakepie for co-hosting.

10/10 to Kita on the animated gifs with the cycle posts.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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