EPTOn April 21 2015 12:43 yamato77 wrote:
breshke plz
wave is a big boy, let him fight his own battles
breshke plz
wave is a big boy, let him fight his own battles
soz i do this too much without noticing. Imma be out for a bit bye
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1) why is bh scum instead of null? Shouldn't trfel be in the same sort of zone prior to the big post? 2) what about wave has him down so far? Why is breshke so high?  | ||
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On April 21 2015 12:46 yamato77 wrote: so you don't have a read on him, but you're intervening on his behalf. mmmmmmmk. Yeah this is part of the reason I peaced. I just didn't think the reasons that you two were calling him scum actually made him scum so i felt the need to get involved when its probs better if i just let it play out for a bit. | ||
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On April 21 2015 15:11 Breshke wrote: Hey damdred I see your list post and have some questions for you. 1) why is bh scum instead of null? Shouldn't trfel be in the same sort of zone prior to the big post? 2) what about wave has him down so far? Why is breshke so high? I realize this might have of as sarcastic or something but im really interested in 1 especially since it seems you have an actual reason. | ||
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On April 21 2015 15:20 rsoultin wrote: you know, at some point this lumping me in with yamato when i clearly was interested in another point entirely is going to annoy me breeeeeshke ^^ hint: that point is probably already past damdy, if you already know the failings in your own list post (and your intent was to get people to react to it so you could help figure out alignments) pointing out the questions defeats that purpose and you should simply address the failure. i've no interest in cooperating with an uncooperative stick-in-the-mud ^^ Nah i didn't mean same reasons I just ment i probably shouldn't have got involved with either of your bits. | ||
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On April 21 2015 15:32 rsoultin wrote: ummm...you did notice that breshke also townread him for it, and the person you're arguing with has artie as a scumlean? yet you're fine with breshke? so...what's your point? I didn't townread him for the vote i town read him for the reason because it seemed super weird to me from a scum mindset. To add to that when he asked me about how i felt that you disagreed with me he had the exact same kind of thought as me exact i didn't post it because im more cautious calling you town after last game. Has rfel played more than one game of scum the database only has the student game. | ||
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On April 21 2015 13:03 WaveofShadow wrote: This is the absolute final time. I'm going to spell it out so it's absolutely crystal fucking clear, and if it's still not enough then just go ahead and lynch me for it or some shit because unless it's going somewhere, this is ridiculous already. Yamato gave some reason directly referencing something he said to me outside of the game that i don't remember, probably something he jokingly said to me at some point yesterday or the day before...? I don't consider that a reason because it has zero direct reference to anything that occurs within the confines of this game and is directly related to something yamato and I supposedly talked about. As that is the case, he would do it as either alignment since supposedly he said he would do it and therefore is completely alignment UNindicative. Artanis' reason I have no knowledge of and has no direct reference to me, so I naturally find it a little odder to bring something like that up---it is my opinion that that could draw more attention than something yamato can directly reference to something he and I supposedly did My reason On April 21 2015 09:34 Breshke wrote: Yeah haha all jokes aside in my limited experiance with art ive never seen him mention stats before so him referencing town stats and relating it to this game just seems like a weird way for a scum artanis to open. This is obviously very weak hence the tentative part. They reach the same place a town read but they are different so I don't see how you compare them. Anyway rso what do you have any comments on peoples alignments your pressuring but i don't see any conclusions yet. I get its early just seeing where you are at. | ||
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On April 22 2015 06:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Wtf this pressure on Artanis is fucking weird. Like I'm super cynical that palmar and BH will ever contribute and I have an idea Artanis knows where I'm coming from, but these points of attack are weird and putting words in his mouth. Yamato what you said doesn't even make any sesne Can't quote atm cause on phone but how is what you said even remotely what Artanis is doing? And rsoul you get bored a lot for someone who is talking nonstop. I really really like this post. Wave joins artanis in my "can't see lynching" list. If wave is mafia his frustration this game is from him being wagoned early so being on the back foot trying to survive from the get go. The stuff about yamato's push is not really alignment indicative for him even though I fully agree with his view point. I'm not sure if i can explain this well but the last sentence on rsoul seems like it couldnt come from a scum wave as why would he randomly antagonize someone. Like he is clearly frustrated and if he is frustrated scum he would be trying to make friends not trying to piss people off. On April 22 2015 06:53 rsoultin wrote: lol i think we're generally agreeing? "miscommunication at best" is what i said, after all. usually i hop on people's heads when they're being gooberly lol >< or suspicious i'd give more credence to the two of you growling at each other, but you did it in aperture, too, so eh. at least yamato is pushing something. if he was scum trying to mislynch someone i don't see why he'd pick artanis xP Can you explain why you think he would pick anyone over artanis to push on this game rsoul? | ||
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On April 22 2015 11:41 rsoultin wrote: the inactives are easier targets xP as are you. as is damdred right now...even wave. artie may not have done much but i see him as being harder to lynch than the other five i've mentioned soooo...it's not a strong reason, just an observation Ehh I disagree with you here this is the same bad logic that lost us last game against you. Furthermore it feels weird to bring up as an observation. Anyway I like Artanis, Wave and damdred. Trefel as well but he is deffs on the bottom of the list, still wouldn't want to lynch him. ##Vote Blazinghand I think damdred has explained this best already and I am already town reading a lot of people and unless i misinterpreted some time stamps we are overdue for some BH goodness. | ||
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On April 22 2015 12:05 rsoultin wrote: ##vote Blazinghand on-board with this now that the deadline's past ^^ i really do not get why everyone is so happy with artanis -_- or damdred, for that matter like where are you getting these townreads from, bresh? are you scumreading anyone at all? So for art its still that early comment heaped up with this quote On April 21 2015 09:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I actually think it makes her slightly likelier to be town as I find it unlikely scum would go in against a tone read of another player right off the bat. Because that is actually what i was thinking but i didn't post it because I felt like the way i tried to explain it was weak. Also the quote below shows that he was actually reconsidering his reads and motivations behind why people are doing stuff On April 21 2015 19:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Pretty much. It's something that you have absolutely no reason to post as scum because it doesn't achieve anything, yet when you're town it's something you may say because it was in the back of your mind, a very human response. Actually having thought about it, I could see scum saying it, but I do think it's a lot likelier from town. Arsoul, why is it bad that someone else explains something I've pinged? For damdred I just like his posts, I can explain it more if you rly want just feel lazy. As for scum I don't really have anything concrete right now but I don't like that you town read yamato and basically have the entire game yet in this post here On April 21 2015 15:20 rsoultin wrote: you know, at some point this lumping me in with yamato when i clearly was interested in another point entirely is going to annoy me breeeeeshke ^^ hint: that point is probably already past damdy, if you already know the failings in your own list post (and your intent was to get people to react to it so you could help figure out alignments) pointing out the questions defeats that purpose and you should simply address the failure. i've no interest in cooperating with an uncooperative stick-in-the-mud ^^ You get rather defensive that you think I am lumping you two together. I understand that this annoyance comes from the fact that your points were different but it still seemed like a really weird over reaction to me. | ||
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On April 22 2015 12:13 Damdred wrote: Yes trfel you should read waves scum games before you say that he wouldn't be pissy with people rather than try to make friends XD. Anyway, your scum game is better than you give it credit for and not just a lurking pile of mess. Any questions while i'm here I think your talking about something i have posted not something trfel has. | ||
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On April 22 2015 12:30 rsoultin wrote: -shrugs- you can call it defensive if you want. i hate being misrepresented as either alignment, and i already had let it go a couple times before that xP so give me something not concrete i can see where you're coming from with damdy...but not so much with artanis, cause that's a pretty weak read lol >< if it's only based on the same posts you townread him for last time he was in the thread as far as damdy is concerned, trying to get a lynch started with so little time before the 24hr mark doesn't sit well with me...i was actually warming up to him before that That was my non conrete thing. There 8 players other than me. I'm townreading 4 out of 8 of those players. 2 of the remaining are not involved in the game so difficult to read. The remaining two yourself and yamato have been town reading each other most of the game, does this mean anything? Probably not even if it does I can't use it right now. I just read your filter and will probably read yamatos soon. That is like exactly where I am at at the moment. Also I had that problem with damdy aswell but then this made me feel better about it On April 22 2015 12:12 Damdred wrote: More of the later than the former I think, I don't like artie going about the game like he is though. | ||
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On April 22 2015 12:50 rsoultin wrote: okay gonna be honest with you here...i don't need everyone to townread me and i get that you just came out of a scumgame with me, but that some of these townreads of yours are so fucking thin and the core of your "non-concrete sorta scum" is poe oh rsoul and yama were townreading each other is pretty bullshit in my eyes i'll take another look at everyone tomorrow when i'm less irritated, but it's not happening tonight quite simply, when you don't have scumreads that's usually a bad sign. but i've just come out of a game where you were town and defaulting to plynches so...though i still think your scumreads are even less noteworthy this game than in that one, i need to reread everything tomorrow Yeah im bad at scum and my meta is i cant push on people but you arn't using that in context if you are town. Do you have a scumread yourself? No you are pushing BH with me. This is a smaller game and you yourself don't have a scumread so I don't understand why you would try compare this game to my scum meta when obviously if you are town it isn't that easy to find scum this game. Just coming out of a game where you being scum does affect my reads. I realize im probably biast hence why I was letting it go and trying to egt more information but frankly you are very similar this game to last. You're in the thread commenting on stuff but you arn't actually doing anything. | ||
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Damdred can you talk to me about rso. Why is she so townie to you like she makes me feel like an ass but i remember getting that feeling last game when she was scum as well. On April 22 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote: that is exactly why i have no desire to play tonight if ppl can honest to god sit here and say (not just you) that i haven't been doing anything this game you're illiterate or scum or just plain bad and it's pissing me off to the point that i don't think i can approach this game objectively lol i myself don't have a scumread? i haven't been doing anything? you think because I'm voting BH right now I don't have a scumread?! i've said what i think about pretty much every player in the game and you have the fucking gall to say i haven't pushed anyone, pointed anything out, come to any conclusions, have any scumreads >< you know what, if you're scum and your purpose was to put me on tilt, congratulations. you've succeeded. i wouldn't even put it past you to be scum with yamato hoping to try to establish a connection between me and him, making this arbitrary association between us every opportunity you get...well screw that >< i'm not doing this tonight -_- i'll revisit in the morning Like that bolded bit is so weird to come from someone who has been townreading yamato all game but i get if she is town she is frustrated but I don't put it past her to be able to fake it as scum. So basically give me your read on her. | ||
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On April 22 2015 13:52 Damdred wrote: It was mainly a tone read and a gut read earlier in the game and I really felt like RS has been reaching decent conclusions to a point and the interactions she had with myself and others. And calling me out and the reasons she did so were pretty good I felt like. I do think several posts are a bit weird, but I think shes town. Hmm ok thanks I just havn't really felt the conclusions bit so if you have any specific examples that would be great but im going to be going back and looking anyway. On April 22 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote: add to that not fully getting this artanis push earlier -_- now stop fucking misrepresenting me bresh cause it's getting on my last nerve -_- IF I AM REALLY YOU'RE ONLY SCUMREAD RIGHT NOW BASED ON MY YAMATO READ YOU SHOULD BE KEEPING BETTER TRACK OF WHAT THAT READ ACTUALLY IS >< Yes i saw that but i also saw this which came after On April 22 2015 11:40 rsoultin wrote: the one on palmar was retracted xP you actually quoted the quote you ninny as for yama, i just have generally liked how he's approached the game so far, between the joke vote, pushing wave but not continuing to antagonize him when it reached a certain point -shrugs- not sure where exactly the quote fell in all that, but i've felt generally good about yama through most of the game I have no idea why you are being so quick tempered. I'm pushing on you? Great fucking decide if im town or mafia doing it and explain why im wrong or push back on me. If youre town and you think im town yeah it can be frustrating but im allowed to be wrong. If you think im mafia then why do you even care. Don't give me this pissed off bullshit where you say im trying to get you on tilt, I don't even get where you think id take that path as mafia. | ||
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Like im not associating you with yamato. Yes i said youve had eachother as town for a larger portion of the game it doesn't mean i think you are together. I specifically said in one of my posts that i wouldn't be able to use that information. Like I don't think ive mentioned yamato at all this game other than pointing him out with you two town reading eachother but that is only because I don't town read either of you so it is odd to me. Anyway who do you want to lynch or are you leaving. I don't care if you have explained this before please don't tell me to look into your filter im asking because im trying to move the conversation on and i still don't care about bh's wall yet until he starts doing other stuff aswell. | ||
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On April 22 2015 15:04 rsoultin wrote: yes it's shitty and reactionary and is why it means nothing -_- or probably means nothing, but i have seen it done before so blah to that lol well whoopdidoo you're wrong on at least one of us (and most of the game disagrees with you on me) so it doesn't damn well matter if two people you're not townreading are townreading each other, however lightly. a real scumread would be nice, since you're now backpedaling...why the fuck are you softing scum on to me if you've got literally nothing but that bs? meh -_- i don't like bh's wall >< he can die a couple of the points had a touch of validity to them...mainly the shift from bh to artie on a whim and playing with the 24 hr mark...but it's mostly narrative and he's provided no other reads, which seems to me like he's hoping to ride out the omg look at how many pretty words that was! that instead of giving other reads he just complains i asked for something more concise doesn't make me feel any better about it either ^^ see, i'm capable of rationality and won't just vote you even though you not having scumreads is a scumtell of yours, breshke, and not a scumtell for me i've also expressed suspicion of artanis and damdred...i want to reread yamato since so many people have problems with him and that's mostly a toneread for me and again not filter-diving tonight so yeah Cool im not backpedeling on you im just giving you pace because if I keep pushing on you and you keep reacting the same way what information do i get? You can take as many digs and missuse my meta as you want. 9 Player games with 2 scum are totally different to 13 players and large games. I don't care I just got a call saying i got the job i applied for the other week so im extremely happy right now and you should be as well rsoul. I like your bh stuff. Like even if i really like his wall post i still wouldnt call him town because one post calling a majority of someones post scummy isn't enough. I also didn't like his reaction to you. | ||
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On April 22 2015 15:13 WaveofShadow wrote: And Breshke I'd still like to talk with you hold up didnt see your post from before replying now | ||
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On April 22 2015 14:41 WaveofShadow wrote: Breshke let her cool down and talk to me about BH's monstrosity and Damdred for a bit. Did you read that post? Do you have any primary thoughts? Sorry i actually didn't see this. I like skim read through it skipped a few bits in the end/middle. I feel bad on commenting on stuff like that before reading it properly because if bh is town or scum he obviously put a lot of effort into it for me to just come and be like didnt read it here's what i think. Anyway first off i don't like how it feels like he was trying to push scum on what felt like every single thing that damdred has posted. I don't think if someone is scum that they are scum in all their posts if that makes sense. Some of the early stuff I think bh had a problem with can be explained by damdred thinking it was standard IML and then being told it wasn't(this is referring to the throwing away vote thing) . I can see how BH would miss this as if you read damdreds filter (I assume this is what happend) and not the game you wouldn't really get the grasp of that. Then i don't really rememebr much else from it other than the point about him voting artanis after BH came in with his excuse that damdred predicted. I liked this point and it is odd but damdred did say to me that his vote on artanis was trying to make stuff happen so i can see a world where he would push on artanis instead of BH here because more people would react to the artanis push whereas a push on bh would get put down as a plynch | ||
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fitting awkwardly into the joking phase like that
