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Yeah, i would have done the same. And I just saw your Lei response, too. I think I can buy that.
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On April 24 2015 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
I think my reads are pretty good so far. Liking these newbies. Lei i really like your answer, scott has pretty similar reads to me.
Shining i really dislike how you call out scott for having no srance on onegu/obi but have done absolutely nothing towards that yourself. Your vote is pretty much a throwaway at this point since we should be voting some form of onegu/damd. I still have no idea why nobody is really voting for Damdred. Scott you just said you'd wait on damdred and he did nothing and you voted onegu?
Damdred has fallen apart. I called him mafia he omgus voted for me and didn't even read my post and then just complains about not being motivated and afking waiting to see who he can put a vote on. This is the guy that was voted best up and coming player who regularly makes cases that find scum. He hasn't even gone back and read filters to evaluate if his reads are right or wrong or anything and instead sticks to his poe list despite having loads of other null people and his poe list even contained people he said had good posts (lei)
Ok? I really dislike being told who to vote for right as soon as I entered the thread, as if you're trying to influence my reads and decision, instead of letting me make them on my own. The difference here is i didnt go out of my way to make a post saying i drew no conclusion from it. You want my stance on it now? I dont have the time to make big updated cases and reads. I had Damdred as an early townread. And this disinterest is something I've seen come from town Damdred before. I've had OWS in my light town pile from D1.
So I'm voting to save my town read.
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[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 02:55 scott31337 wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 21 2015 11:59 Bill Murray wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 21 2015 10:59 scott31337 wrote:
cakepie (5):, Bourneq, HolyFlare, scott, trfel OWS
scott31337 (5): Bill Murray, Onegu, LeiNadk, cakepie damd
Bourneq (1): The Shining
Trfel (1): LightningStrike
Not voting (1): prplhz
LS voted for Trfel so he wouldn't vote for a townie, but then did - I think Trfel's town. The Shining left his vote on Bourneq and we haven't heard from him either recently.
Cakepie shows Bourneq vote first (I'll have to find the unvote listing as well) - HF, Scott, Trfel, OWS - but OWS was on earlier before trying to start on LS.
The wagon on me has been some slight townie leads and a flipped VT - although I'm still suspicious of BM though.
OWS and Trfel would be my top towns
BM and Bourneq, maybe Onegu? would be at the bottom.
If you have any questions, feel free. [/QUOTE]
why do you scumread the people that arent on the townie wagon that got lynched[/QUOTE]
Because both wagons are town. OWS started on Cakepie, and then tried to go on LS and back on Cakepie, but from his posts he has been giving - and trying to start the LS wagon - I'm pretty sure he is town.
You have gone after Trfel and myself and he's my other townread.
HF hasn't done enough and who he replaced didn't do anything either. Tomorrow is a new day to reevaluate.
LS was honest with not liking either wagon (Neither did I) although a throw away vote looks bad.
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+ Show Spoiler [LeiNadk's Post] +On April 21 2015 13:35 LeiNadk wrote:My case on Scott: I started looking into Scott after he asked Trfel this question: + Show Spoiler +On April 19 2015 13:00 scott31337 wrote:
What do you think of the LS/Damdred exchange? I know LS can be intimidated - and avoiding questions intentionally is viewed as scummy. And later gave his read to OWS as: + Show Spoiler +On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -
I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.
Everyone else null ATM I let my first suspicion known at that point, because he was interested in LS/Damdred exchanged and stated that LS avoiding questions intentionally is viewed as scummy. + Show Spoiler +On April 19 2015 14:29 LeiNadk wrote:
My thoughts so far:
First of all, I'm watching Bourne not because of Trfel's logic but because of the fact that he said he was going to sleep but stuck around as evident from his comment after Trfel's entrant post. I feel like he is carefully following the game without making it seems like he is.
As for Damdred and LS exchange, Damdred seems like he is just trying to get some sort of read and LS is handling it calmly. I'm getting strong town vibe from both of them to be frank. I haven't played with them before. If they are very skilled players, then I can't be sure.
For Shining, I don't know but nothing out of ordinary.
Scott, seems to be jumping from here and there.. I can't say he is a strong town. I am very thankful for answering my question though.
So I asked him for the reasons why: + Show Spoiler +On April 19 2015 14:38 LeiNadk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -
I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.
Everyone else null ATM Could you elaborate on Damdred and Obi? Why town? His answer, not quite satisfying to me but I didn't press on. + Show Spoiler +On April 19 2015 14:44 scott31337 wrote:
Obi and Damdred have been asking questions and offering their ideas and they feel honest to me so far.
Later when TBD shows up, he immediately asks for his reads: + Show Spoiler +On April 19 2015 15:34 scott31337 wrote:Evening - Do you mind if I call you TBD or Dwarf? What do you think so far? On April 19 2015 15:57 scott31337 wrote:I read your last game and you are about as useful so far and got mislynched. If you are town this game can you step it up and learn from your mistakes? Do you have any reads? And he pressure votes merely 40 minutes later. Keep in mind that most of the players including himself doesn't have a solid read at this point. BM, cake, and plotspot haven't even posted anything yet. + Show Spoiler +On April 19 2015 16:15 scott31337 wrote:
I think you need some encouragement.
## Vote: TheBloodyDwarf And TBD's total posts after that are (pretty much nothing): + Show Spoiler +On April 20 2015 00:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Really good post. This post made some of my views from the last game stronger. I think I will re read this again later in the game. On April 20 2015 00:23 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 15:57 scott31337 wrote:On April 19 2015 15:50 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:I mean YUROP TOO STRONG TO DIE  Do you have any reads? No, I don't have any reads yet. On April 20 2015 00:24 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 16:15 scott31337 wrote:
I think you need some encouragement.
## Vote: TheBloodyDwarf  Candy would encourage me more  On April 20 2015 00:42 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Ofc I could make reads like this that add nothing to this game except more pages. Maybe I should do that coz it makes me look good. I just wanted to be honest and said that I have no reads yet  Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 21:40 LightningStrike wrote:I'm back and saw TheBloodyDwarf complaining on the lack of Europeans in this thread. Also Shining had a question which will now be answered: On April 19 2015 14:57 The Shining wrote:
LightningStrike When you get back I want to see you actually do something. All I could gather from your posts is you're worried about getting scumread and you'll answer questions tomorrow. Can I get some preliminary reads from you when you do come back? I'm sure you'll have some thoughts on the posts you read when you wake up. Okay let's be honest here I usually get scumread for my early reads list by most people but here some thoughts on people: OWS: Null he haven't done much yet but I know when he post more I can give more of a accurate meta read because he haven't posted much. Shinging: Maybe Town you seem to be trying actually but I haven't forgiven you on being scum in our last game together LeiNadk: Just a confused townie most likely he being earnest I feel with him asking questions on how to play kinda reminds me of myself on my first game on TL. Tfrel: Null he can do most of his stuff as both alignments (Hinted at pregame he would do a really large post) Scott: He looked so damn townie when he was scum and he looks townie here to so null. Bourneq: Null he haven't really done much. Also Bourneq I'm here what's your thoughts so far? Sry LightningStrike  On April 20 2015 01:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey veterans here.
What is your experience about inactive players that come to thread with post stating their reason for inactivity and haven't posted at all.
How many times they have been scums? I mean just inactivity on day1 gives them like "free" day. Less posts, less scumhunting on them.
On April 20 2015 07:14 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 06:48 Trfel wrote:For anyone who doesn't know Bill Murray, he's quite famous. This is a must read. Wow, I have been banned several times on this website but damn, now there is name that I should look forward to when playing mafia. Such a legend. + Show Spoiler +/jk
Do I need to even need to stay this? AND Scott drops the vote + no content post: + Show Spoiler +On April 20 2015 07:29 scott31337 wrote:What a night! Let me catch up in the thread - TBD picked it up a little bit, but he's still on a tight leash for now. ## UnvoteShow nested quote +On April 20 2015 01:30 Bill Murray wrote:
PS I'm Vanilla Townie and we need a massclaim in all likelihood. If scum don't CC power roles we will likely have around a 60% chance to win What the hell is this BM? This is a terrible idea and you know it. BM roles scum like 80% of the time anyway, RNG gods love him. Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 06:48 Trfel wrote:For anyone who doesn't know Bill Murray, he's quite famous. This is a must read. That's an excellent read - although I have before - the whole banlist is worth a read too.  Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 06:50 Damdred wrote:
Yeah this isn't going to be a fun game at all for me. Anyway my answers already there Are you feeling okay - or? Sorry to hear that. Looks like others went over BM's terrible idea already... And then Bill Murry makes a case on Scott. I agree with only a few points and I disagree with the rest of BM's case: + Show Spoiler +On April 20 2015 22:54 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -
I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.
Everyone else null ATM his one town post, the above, even feels forced. he throws out a couple leans as bones to the town, and then goes on to finish it with the almighty "Everyone is null" Yeah it's early in the game but this is different. This is him trying to coast through while having activity for the sake of activity without committing to any analysis whatsoever. Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 14:44 scott31337 wrote:On April 19 2015 14:38 LeiNadk wrote:On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -
I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.
Everyone else null ATM Could you elaborate on Damdred and Obi? Why town? Obi and Damdred have been asking questions and offering their ideas and they feel honest to me so far. From your message I assumed you have played IRL mafia before, correct? There is the TL Mafia Database that has information on others mafia games played on this site - if you want to look into peoples previous games. When directly questioned comes up with a bullshit excuse based upon "he feels obi and damdred are town" His rebuttal to those two points made by BM were not convincing to me, especially this one: + Show Spoiler +On April 21 2015 01:31 scott31337 wrote:
Everyone else was null - Damdred and OWS were stirring the thread in the right direction, and I did not have an opionion on anybody else yet. If I added to that now, I'd give a slight town to Trfel - him and Damdred going at it looks innocent, and you look a little scummy. Fair? He pretends to be actively participating in scumhunting He seems to be more active than some of the lurkers, but he isn't providing any useful contents. He asks for reads from TBD and cake, literally two most inactive people, rather than from people who are actually interacting with each other. His pressure vote on TBD was awkward and it didn't bring about any result. He doesn't have any good reads, just some general townie feelings on few. I think he is a mafia.
To answer about TBD once again - He was looking just like the last game he played (Student VII) and I wanted to get him going when he entered the thread. Others had not entered the thread yet and I do know know if they live on the other side of the world and are even awake. I wanted him to do a little more posting, which he did - (It wasn't great, but it was something) so I dropped my vote, it accomplished in my opnion what I wanted it to do, which was get him talking a little more. TBD's position has been modkilled and flipped VT. Does that make sense?
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Question to Scott:
I don't understand what you are trying to say with who-voted-what.
Please explain why OWS and Trfel are your top towns.
And why is Onegu maybe a mafia.
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To answer -
Trfel has been making strong points, noting things like LS's weird vote, researching filters, and making cases. He is encouraging conversation in I would say a somewhat inactive thread. I'm pretty confident he's town.
OWS has been doing quite the same, although just not as much of a time sink. He points out suspicious thoughts, areas of concern, and is trying to solve the game. .
I think I know Onegu's plan after reading his filter. I'm going to wait until tomorrow on him.
I'll try to find more time for the other posts.
[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 11:19 scott31337 wrote:
LS -
[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 10:00 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck I shot Tfrel because I thought he was scum for his hammer................................ Vig here I'm sorry I killed you Tfrel T_T[/QUOTE]
So as much as I think this was a bad shot, I can see your reasoning... :/ Espically when we agreed at Bourneq last night (Although Bourneq had a pretty good defense) Me and Trfel we're having the same thoughts and connecting well.
So since your conftown now, Could you give your thoughts on the rest of the game?
[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 05:27 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, when I look at your filter, it seems that your only real scumread is me. This isn't a problem in and of itself, but I would like to have you explain why you don't see anyone else as scummy?[/QUOTE]
I already got scott as one if you are scum based on EoD stuff going down. I still struggling on the 3rd person to be scum with you and scott if you both are scum.[/QUOTE]
Do you still think I'm scum LS?
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[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 06:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 22 2015 06:43 Onegu wrote:
Because Obi with like no reasons behind his reads[/QUOTE]
It's almost like I've explained my reads or you could ask about the ones you don't understand or don't like.
:o[/QUOTE]
I've reread your filter, and although you point in townie directions - I'm not seeing your reads. You said HF was possible scum and rescinded that read - Damd is town? Onegu?
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My thoughts -
HF is actually participating in the game, better then his one post replacement.
I didn't see too much in LeiNadk's "case" though, just a lot of quotes and asking about TBD, which I responded to.
Onegu has not changed much - when I said earlier I thought I knew what his plan was, I thought he was scraping under the radar. Now that we have LS as the Vig, that idea is out the window. [/QUOTE]
How do you go from the bolded parts in consecutive posts?
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When has damdred been this disinterested that he doesn't care about getting lynched?
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Ok Im dieing just going to give all my reads
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Im flipping my scott read now to scummy
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Like wtffff who votes onegu here over damdred. This is some kind of mafia shit. All the votes piling up with no distinctive push.
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OWS has been doing quite the same, although just not as much of a time sink. He points out suspicious thoughts, areas of concern, and is trying to solve the game. .
I've reread your filter, and although you point in townie directions - I'm not seeing your reads. You said HF was possible scum and rescinded that read - Damd is town? Onegu?
Second part talking about OWS
How does he switch to these in consecutive posts just doesnt make sense at all
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Second Damdy Likely mafia. For reasons already stated
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Third OWS final mafia EZ game.
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Student Mafia V, Damdred stopped playing for like a full day phase because of some guilt issues regarding start of the game. And the activity would wane in that game at times, too.
Ehhhhhhhh ##Unvote I really don't think Onegu is scum here but I doubt Damdred would be this resigned as scum. Knowing him personally, I know he takes a certain satisfaction out of playing a good deceptive scum game. This feels too easy.
If you're flipping your read on Scott to scum, let's lynch him instead? He can easily make his ninja vote to save himself as scum and use their argument "I was up for lynch. I just voted counterwagon to save myself"
Whatever call it a wasted vote. I'm not voting for ppl I don't think are scum.
##Vote: Scott31337
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As much as it pains me I think HF's case on Damdred is legit and I not really seeing town Damdred this game I know Damdred is much better player than this when he's town even on his worst game I played with him he wasn't this bad. If he's town I might commit Sudoku.
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On April 24 2015 08:33 Onegu wrote:
OWS has been doing quite the same, although just not as much of a time sink. He points out suspicious thoughts, areas of concern, and is trying to solve the game. .
I've reread your filter, and although you point in townie directions - I'm not seeing your reads. You said HF was possible scum and rescinded that read - Damd is town? Onegu?
Second part talking about OWS
How does he switch to these in consecutive posts just doesnt make sense at all
Well one of those quoted says he's towny and the second says he looks towny but it's just a facade with no meat to it.
Also shining. Damdred is not demotivated for out of game reasons this time. He knows that when i get onto a mafia target I will fight for that target to die no matter what. He's also in multiple games and thus i wouldn't put it passed him to just not try in this instance since he hasn't given a specific reason to be demotivated at all. I am most definitely sure I know Damdred a whole lot better.
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My point was first says he is trying to solve the game and the second says he has no reads
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On April 24 2015 08:50 Onegu wrote:
My point was first says he is trying to solve the game and the second says he has no reads
Well I'll let him explain what he meant i guess but i don't like what shining is pushing at all. He basically came in ignored everything to push a stale day 1 read. Say he doesn't like being told who to vote and then giving some bs excuse to not vote damd and then telling someone who to vote lol. While also saying he didn't have much time.
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You better be right then. Sigh. I really wish my landlord and electric hadn't screwed me this week, I feel so useless.
##Vote: Damdred
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Vote Count
Onegu (3): ObiWanShinobi, Bourneq, Scott31337
Damdred (4): HolyFlare, Onegu, LightningStrike, The Shining
Holyflare (1): Damdred
Not voting(1):, LeiNadk
Currently, Damdred is set to be lynched. Day 2 ends in at 01:00 GMT (+00:00).
Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
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