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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 21 2015 01:59 GMT
#641
Still shooting Scott
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
April 21 2015 01:59 GMT
#642
cakepie (5):, Bourneq, HolyFlare, scott, trfel OWS
scott31337 (5): Bill Murray, Onegu, LeiNadk, cakepie damd
Bourneq (1): The Shining
Trfel (1): LightningStrike

Not voting (1): prplhz

LS voted for Trfel so he wouldn't vote for a townie, but then did - I think Trfel's town. The Shining left his vote on Bourneq and we haven't heard from him either recently.

Cakepie shows Bourneq vote first (I'll have to find the unvote listing as well) - HF, Scott, Trfel, OWS - but OWS was on earlier before trying to start on LS.
The wagon on me has been some slight townie leads and a flipped VT - although I'm still suspicious of BM though.

OWS and Trfel would be my top towns

BM and Bourneq, maybe Onegu? would be at the bottom.

If you have any questions, feel free.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
April 21 2015 02:01 GMT
#643
On April 21 2015 10:59 Holyflare wrote:
Still shooting Scott


That would be a bad decision.

Is there anything I can answer for you? Did you also see my rebuttals to BM's case I posted?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 21 2015 02:06 GMT
#644
No i haven't really read the game at all and not sure I plan to. Getting a good idea of things from recent events. I guess I'd want you to actually go in depth a bit on your reads and flesh them out for me. Explain your trfel is town read a bit more since everyone is thinking the opposite, stuff like that?

Also, I'm not sure I see where you're coming from on your scum reads? BM seems to be putting a lot of effort in from the small bit + case I read, how did that come about?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 21 2015 02:07 GMT
#645
On scott31337:
On April 21 2015 10:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 10:50 Trfel wrote:
On April 21 2015 10:45 Holyflare wrote:
name some names then trfel
To be honest, TheBloodyDwarf? I don't know how you can say that he had a noticeable number of reads.

Also LightningStrike, cakepie (until late in the day), and LeiNadk.


bloodydwarf was a lost sheep with confused no reads, scott looks like blending in weak reads with no justification, case is very good

On April 19 2015 13:00 scott31337 wrote:
When I first read this, I thought Bourneq was asking for tone reads on himself, which I did not understand since he only had one post. Reading your point of view, I do not know what tone reads he would give off - and then added the TLDR post - meh.
I see this as a scumread. Despite the literal meaning of "meh", it definitely has a negative connotation.
On April 19 2015 16:15 scott31337 wrote:
I think you need some encouragement.

## Vote: TheBloodyDwarf
Yes, it's a pressure vote, but that still is still somewhat of a commitment to the read.
On April 21 2015 01:31 scott31337 wrote:
Probably from a pool of -
BM, Cakepie, Plotspot
And he then goes on to explain, in detail, why he thinks that Bill Murray is scum (by refuting the case that Bill Murray made on him). I don't see scott31337 being non-committal here, while he isn't providing tons of reads, he's providing an amount which I feel are generally acceptable for a newbie.

Yes, the final post was made after Bill Murray's case, possibly as a reaction to it. But I don't think that he's provided a number scumreads that is low enough to be suspicious for a newbie.

One final thing of note is that scott31337 has only played one game before, Newbie Mini Mafia LX. He replaced into it, and he was mafia. In his very first post (other than saying hi), he called four people scum. I think it's reasonable to assume that a lack of experience having to actually make reads causes him to have fewer reads (this happens to so many newbies...), and this is assuming you don't meta read him as town for not taking stances on everyone right away (it is fair to blame this on him replacing into the previously mentioned game).
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 21 2015 02:12 GMT
#646
So Damdred, you switched to scott31337 because of his ninja vote with two minutes left, correct?

Was there any additional reason?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 21 2015 02:13 GMT
#647
Blehhh fine I'll read his stuff
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2015 02:14 GMT
#648
And cake looked better last few minutes. And the vote was scummy
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 21 2015 02:15 GMT
#649
Lol Damdred where else would he have voted if he just came back though? Himself? :p
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 21 2015 02:15 GMT
#650
On April 21 2015 10:53 Trfel wrote:
sic...having to choose between cakepie and scott31337 (with a weird wagon, and who I am even less confident in being scum), so I chose cakepie...sic
fun than to win the game.

when you say "who i am even less confident in being scum" why is it that you had scott as #1 town on every single one of your lists then?

2nd time you've misrepresented yourself, Trfel.

Trfel solidly #2 on my scum radar now
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 21 2015 02:19 GMT
#651
On April 21 2015 11:07 Trfel wrote:
On scott31337:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 10:51 Holyflare wrote:
On April 21 2015 10:50 Trfel wrote:
On April 21 2015 10:45 Holyflare wrote:
name some names then trfel
To be honest, TheBloodyDwarf? I don't know how you can say that he had a noticeable number of reads.

Also LightningStrike, cakepie (until late in the day), and LeiNadk.


bloodydwarf was a lost sheep with confused no reads, scott looks like blending in weak reads with no justification, case is very good

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 13:00 scott31337 wrote:
When I first read this, I thought Bourneq was asking for tone reads on himself, which I did not understand since he only had one post. Reading your point of view, I do not know what tone reads he would give off - and then added the TLDR post - meh.
I see this as a scumread. Despite the literal meaning of "meh", it definitely has a negative connotation.
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 16:15 scott31337 wrote:
I think you need some encouragement.

## Vote: TheBloodyDwarf
Yes, it's a pressure vote, but that still is still somewhat of a commitment to the read.
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 01:31 scott31337 wrote:
Probably from a pool of -
BM, Cakepie, Plotspot
And he then goes on to explain, in detail, why he thinks that Bill Murray is scum (by refuting the case that Bill Murray made on him). I don't see scott31337 being non-committal here, while he isn't providing tons of reads, he's providing an amount which I feel are generally acceptable for a newbie.

Yes, the final post was made after Bill Murray's case, possibly as a reaction to it. But I don't think that he's provided a number scumreads that is low enough to be suspicious for a newbie.

One final thing of note is that scott31337 has only played one game before, Newbie Mini Mafia LX. He replaced into it, and he was mafia. In his very first post (other than saying hi), he called four people scum. I think it's reasonable to assume that a lack of experience having to actually make reads causes him to have fewer reads (this happens to so many newbies...), and this is assuming you don't meta read him as town for not taking stances on everyone right away (it is fair to blame this on him replacing into the previously mentioned game).

wow
1) he in no way refuted my case. he blatantly omgused against it. I refuted his ATTEMPT at refutation which he never responded to unless he did in the couple pages i need to catch up on which i HIGHLY doubt because scum like you and he like to ignore thread sentiment and skim it over
2) as per this being his 2nd game YET AGAIN this is something that has already been discussed and you know this if you have been reading the thread. It was stated he has observed ~30 games so there is no excuse for that

Players like you and he can't play the noob card and try to lead the town at the same time, Mafia doesn't work that way. Now, not only are you gonna lie and say you didn't try to play the noobcard yourself, which you 100% did, but you're openly chainsaw defending Scott, which you're going to say you aren't because you are misrepresenting to the point that it is lying.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 21 2015 02:23 GMT
#652
On April 21 2015 11:15 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 10:53 Trfel wrote:
sic...having to choose between cakepie and scott31337 (with a weird wagon, and who I am even less confident in being scum), so I chose cakepie...sic
fun than to win the game.

when you say "who i am even less confident in being scum" why is it that you had scott as #1 town on every single one of your lists then?

2nd time you've misrepresented yourself, Trfel.

Trfel solidly #2 on my scum radar now
I never, ever had scott31337 as top town, nowhere close. I generally don't provide list posts. I made one this game because I was out for a significant amount of time, and it wasn't ordered in the categories. If you look at the actual reads, you can see that The Shining was clearly the strongest townread.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 21 2015 02:26 GMT
#653
On April 21 2015 09:57 cakepie wrote:
Leave Lei alone, strong pure noob town read for asking questions in thread. Scum can ask in QT.
I know it's going to look funny with us both coincidentally onto scott last minute but there it is.

I'm voting onto scott because he was FoS behind Bourne who rehabbed himself toward the end.

Keep an eye on BM, I let him be for a bit because the more veteran players thought it was possible he just dun goofed, basically the massclaim thing was due to him casually /in to the game under assumption of certain setup without checking. But it's still weird.
So, Damdred, this post was enough to make you switch from
On April 21 2015 09:54 Damdred wrote:
Everyone stay on cake
to
On April 21 2015 09:59 Damdred wrote:
##unvote
##vote scott
?

I don't really see it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 21 2015 02:34 GMT
#654
Pretty sure he said it was the ninja vote
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 21 2015 02:35 GMT
#655
On April 21 2015 11:14 Damdred wrote:
And cake looked better last few minutes. And the vote was scummy
Emphasis mine, in bold.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 21 2015 02:39 GMT
#656
I really want scott to elaborate on all his stuff though. If he has those reads (and they looked fairly strong) then he should easily be able to elaborate on everything that he's thinking about. Also BM, obsing is totally different to playing the game, at least try and get him to talk about stuff instead of scaring away potential new players :p

Still wouldn't mind and information shot/check though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 21 2015 02:40 GMT
#657
On April 21 2015 11:35 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 11:14 Damdred wrote:
And cake looked better last few minutes. And the vote was scummy
Emphasis mine, in bold.


Oh right i get you. Whatever then gonna go sleep and might actually have to read after all.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2015 02:41 GMT
#658
Yep because cake looked better. Scott came in and piled on cake while he's been super absent without any explanation up to lynch etc.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2015 02:41 GMT
#659
Holyflare are you town?
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 21 2015 02:42 GMT
#660
I only replace into town slots
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