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Holyflare
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scott31337
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scott31337 (5): Bill Murray, Onegu, LeiNadk, cakepie damd Bourneq (1): The Shining Trfel (1): LightningStrike Not voting (1): prplhz LS voted for Trfel so he wouldn't vote for a townie, but then did - I think Trfel's town. The Shining left his vote on Bourneq and we haven't heard from him either recently. Cakepie shows Bourneq vote first (I'll have to find the unvote listing as well) - HF, Scott, Trfel, OWS - but OWS was on earlier before trying to start on LS. The wagon on me has been some slight townie leads and a flipped VT - although I'm still suspicious of BM though. OWS and Trfel would be my top towns BM and Bourneq, maybe Onegu? would be at the bottom. If you have any questions, feel free. | ||
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scott31337
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On April 21 2015 10:59 Holyflare wrote: Still shooting Scott That would be a bad decision. Is there anything I can answer for you? Did you also see my rebuttals to BM's case I posted? | ||
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Holyflare
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Also, I'm not sure I see where you're coming from on your scum reads? BM seems to be putting a lot of effort in from the small bit + case I read, how did that come about? | ||
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Trfel
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On April 21 2015 10:51 Holyflare wrote: bloodydwarf was a lost sheep with confused no reads, scott looks like blending in weak reads with no justification, case is very good On April 19 2015 13:00 scott31337 wrote: I see this as a scumread. Despite the literal meaning of "meh", it definitely has a negative connotation.When I first read this, I thought Bourneq was asking for tone reads on himself, which I did not understand since he only had one post. Reading your point of view, I do not know what tone reads he would give off - and then added the TLDR post - meh. On April 19 2015 16:15 scott31337 wrote: Yes, it's a pressure vote, but that still is still somewhat of a commitment to the read.I think you need some encouragement. ## Vote: TheBloodyDwarf On April 21 2015 01:31 scott31337 wrote: And he then goes on to explain, in detail, why he thinks that Bill Murray is scum (by refuting the case that Bill Murray made on him). I don't see scott31337 being non-committal here, while he isn't providing tons of reads, he's providing an amount which I feel are generally acceptable for a newbie.Probably from a pool of - BM, Cakepie, Plotspot Yes, the final post was made after Bill Murray's case, possibly as a reaction to it. But I don't think that he's provided a number scumreads that is low enough to be suspicious for a newbie. One final thing of note is that scott31337 has only played one game before, Newbie Mini Mafia LX. He replaced into it, and he was mafia. In his very first post (other than saying hi), he called four people scum. I think it's reasonable to assume that a lack of experience having to actually make reads causes him to have fewer reads (this happens to so many newbies...), and this is assuming you don't meta read him as town for not taking stances on everyone right away (it is fair to blame this on him replacing into the previously mentioned game). | ||
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Trfel
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Was there any additional reason? | ||
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Holyflare
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Damdred
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Holyflare
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Bill Murray
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On April 21 2015 10:53 Trfel wrote: sic...having to choose between cakepie and scott31337 (with a weird wagon, and who I am even less confident in being scum), so I chose cakepie...sic fun than to win the game. when you say "who i am even less confident in being scum" why is it that you had scott as #1 town on every single one of your lists then? 2nd time you've misrepresented yourself, Trfel. Trfel solidly #2 on my scum radar now | ||
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Bill Murray
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On April 21 2015 11:07 Trfel wrote: On scott31337: I see this as a scumread. Despite the literal meaning of "meh", it definitely has a negative connotation. Yes, it's a pressure vote, but that still is still somewhat of a commitment to the read.And he then goes on to explain, in detail, why he thinks that Bill Murray is scum (by refuting the case that Bill Murray made on him). I don't see scott31337 being non-committal here, while he isn't providing tons of reads, he's providing an amount which I feel are generally acceptable for a newbie. Yes, the final post was made after Bill Murray's case, possibly as a reaction to it. But I don't think that he's provided a number scumreads that is low enough to be suspicious for a newbie. One final thing of note is that scott31337 has only played one game before, Newbie Mini Mafia LX. He replaced into it, and he was mafia. In his very first post (other than saying hi), he called four people scum. I think it's reasonable to assume that a lack of experience having to actually make reads causes him to have fewer reads (this happens to so many newbies...), and this is assuming you don't meta read him as town for not taking stances on everyone right away (it is fair to blame this on him replacing into the previously mentioned game). wow 1) he in no way refuted my case. he blatantly omgused against it. I refuted his ATTEMPT at refutation which he never responded to unless he did in the couple pages i need to catch up on which i HIGHLY doubt because scum like you and he like to ignore thread sentiment and skim it over 2) as per this being his 2nd game YET AGAIN this is something that has already been discussed and you know this if you have been reading the thread. It was stated he has observed ~30 games so there is no excuse for that Players like you and he can't play the noob card and try to lead the town at the same time, Mafia doesn't work that way. Now, not only are you gonna lie and say you didn't try to play the noobcard yourself, which you 100% did, but you're openly chainsaw defending Scott, which you're going to say you aren't because you are misrepresenting to the point that it is lying. | ||
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Trfel
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On April 21 2015 11:15 Bill Murray wrote: I never, ever had scott31337 as top town, nowhere close. I generally don't provide list posts. I made one this game because I was out for a significant amount of time, and it wasn't ordered in the categories. If you look at the actual reads, you can see that The Shining was clearly the strongest townread.when you say "who i am even less confident in being scum" why is it that you had scott as #1 town on every single one of your lists then? 2nd time you've misrepresented yourself, Trfel. Trfel solidly #2 on my scum radar now | ||
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Trfel
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On April 21 2015 09:57 cakepie wrote: So, Damdred, this post was enough to make you switch fromLeave Lei alone, strong pure noob town read for asking questions in thread. Scum can ask in QT. I know it's going to look funny with us both coincidentally onto scott last minute but there it is. I'm voting onto scott because he was FoS behind Bourne who rehabbed himself toward the end. Keep an eye on BM, I let him be for a bit because the more veteran players thought it was possible he just dun goofed, basically the massclaim thing was due to him casually /in to the game under assumption of certain setup without checking. But it's still weird. On April 21 2015 09:54 Damdred wrote: toEveryone stay on cake On April 21 2015 09:59 Damdred wrote: ?##unvote ##vote scott I don't really see it. | ||
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Holyflare
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Trfel
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On April 21 2015 11:14 Damdred wrote: Emphasis mine, in bold.And cake looked better last few minutes. And the vote was scummy | ||
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Holyflare
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Still wouldn't mind and information shot/check though | ||
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Holyflare
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On April 21 2015 11:35 Trfel wrote: Emphasis mine, in bold. Oh right i get you. Whatever then gonna go sleep and might actually have to read after all. | ||
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Damdred
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ObiWanShinobi
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Holyflare
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