FOR FUCK SAKE, I'M NOT CALLING SL MAFIA FOR TRYING TO GET VIGI TO CLAIM
I'M CALLING HIM MAFIA FOR SAYING HE SHOULDN'T WORK WITH BAD INFORMATION, BUT INSTANTLY USING THAT BAD INFORMATION AS BASIS TO HIS WHOLE PLAY AFTER NIGHT1

OMG HF

Vivax

22406 Posts

April 20 2015 16:42 GMT

#1082

I can't fucking believe you just let this flow past you.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

April 20 2015 16:44 GMT

#1083

On April 21 2015 01:41 GlowingBear wrote:
FOR FUCK SAKE, I'M NOT CALLING SL MAFIA FOR TRYING TO GET VIGI TO CLAIM
I'M CALLING HIM MAFIA FOR SAYING HE SHOULDN'T WORK WITH BAD INFORMATION, BUT INSTANTLY USING THAT BAD INFORMATION AS BASIS TO HIS WHOLE PLAY AFTER NIGHT1

OMG HF

I haven't read your case and I don't care to. SL just plays badly.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

April 20 2015 16:44 GMT

#1084

On April 21 2015 01:41 Vivax wrote:
GB where's your vote

On SL

HF is probably Mafia with him buy I have a stronger scumread on SL

Did you read my case? If so, why do you think HF is a better lynch than SL?

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

April 20 2015 16:44 GMT

#1085

OMG HF I VOTE U U MAFIA FU

-GB

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

April 20 2015 16:45 GMT

#1086

On April 21 2015 01:44 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

I haven't read your case and I don't care to. SL just plays badly.

LOL nvm, I'm voting you

##Vote: HF

You're not even reading your MAIN SCUMREAD FILTER

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

April 20 2015 16:47 GMT

#1087

On April 21 2015 01:44 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

-GB

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

April 20 2015 16:49 GMT

#1088

I did skim it I just never read it, it was bad. SL only scum read artanis when he switched to palmar and said his vote was from a mafia mindset iirc and then called him mafia for that so when artanis switched to ls, sl also switched to ls. That's not mafia-y. His read on palmar is whatever? He called him a possible power role and also that palmar was joking? So what? His vig crap is what he did as town so also means nothing.

Your case means nothing.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

April 20 2015 16:52 GMT

#1089

and your point about artanis being his main scum read is just wrong, it was clearly a joke post you linked and SL has most definitely said the same thing about other players like Marv before (let's vote him till he plays!), so artanis could have easily been null and gone to scummy at deadline when he voted palmar

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

April 20 2015 16:53 GMT

#1090

basically your rambling about sl is aimless and has no common sense, you aint even reading my points about vivax and still calling me mafia but then accuse me of not reading filters

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

April 20 2015 16:55 GMT

#1091

basically i'm going to keep voting with my scum team

#sickplays

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

April 20 2015 16:57 GMT

#1092

Wow guys, game is hard.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

April 20 2015 17:00 GMT

#1093

I've been reading and I think Vivax is town and you're just scumreading him to discredit his stance on you

I clearly demonstrated how SL's thought process can only culminate on a scumread on Artanis

It's useless to discuss this with you since (I) you haven't read it properly and (ii) you're Mafia with him and is obviously trying to discredit my case to save him.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

April 20 2015 17:03 GMT

#1094

No i definitely read it when I just replied to you then. It was bad and how does his thought process only have to mean he's scum reading artanis??? You literally bypass everything i just said that proved your stance wrong.

Vivax is scummy as shit.

Vivax

22406 Posts

April 20 2015 17:04 GMT

#1095

On April 21 2015 01:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Wow guys, game is hard.

Come to HF and it will get easier

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

April 20 2015 17:05 GMT

#1096

Like you use all this surface level shit and none of it is content right now. How am I discrediting vivax's stance on me? Quote the relevant posts where I discredit him that isn't using logic. It's impossible. Everything he's said about me I've countered with my thought process and logic behind it. Yet you just ignore everything and write it off in a terrible false summation.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

April 20 2015 17:07 GMT

#1097

Vivax if you aren't full of shit and mafia outline a brief case on me in bullet points so I can squash it right in front of everyone.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

April 20 2015 17:08 GMT

#1098

On April 21 2015 01:17 Holyflare wrote:
i'm not mafia, i haven't done anything that makes me mafia, i'm just lazy and town

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

April 20 2015 17:10 GMT

#1099

Did a massive rereading of everyone last night, haven't gotten a chance to start posting until now. Here we go.

Loafery
Originally liked his posting at the start of D1. Going back and reading I have no idea fucking why. He actually had one decent post yesterday right here:

On April 20 2015 14:33 loafery wrote:
Its a win win situation for u hf

if u lunch gb its a ml

if u lynch koshi u get towncred for bussing.

You can literally do whatever you want losing koshi wouldnt be a big deal cos he has been lackluster and the gain of towncred far outweighs the existanc of koshi right now.

The fact that u say koshi is policy and u are fence hogging the idea of lynching himmakes it clear that if u had a choice u would rather lynch someone else which in this case is gb. Based on votes i would rather go for sl than gb and it makes the mind boggle.

except if you consider that he has been tunneling HF literally the entire game and has done nothing else. He's been really cryptic in terms of how much he professes to know about the people in this game considering he's only played one other game on this site.

Verdict: Could lycnh

Koshi
This fucking guy.
Trying to leave meta completely aside, Koshi could absolutely be lynched in this game for doing absolutely nothing other than sheeping blindly, begging not to be lynched, and otherwise not helping town in any possible way. The main thing I've been trying to look at while rereading is motivation and what each player seems to be attempting to do while avoiding the ever-present meta analysis, and looking at Koshi through this lens makes him look absolutely fucking awful. If one adds meta, it makes him look a little bit towny because again, he looks somewhat jovial/dumb and town Koshi has an uncanny knack for pissing me the hell off. I don't know yet if I want to add that lens or not, however, and the fact that he is taunting people by saying shit like this

On April 20 2015 08:12 Koshi wrote:
I already told you I have no interest in investing my soul in this game.
I am now hard to read. I will not use a towntell of mine. Like emotions or activity.
only the other 3 which I forgot and probably also am not doing but that makes it more fun for you guys anyway. Gogo town!

Really. It is on you to find out my alignment and then to be proud to be right.
It's not on me to towntell.

While at the same time begging not to be lynched and saying he is only being lynched for policy just further highlights his rampant refusal to help town win this game.

It all boils down to this in my eyes: If you're not working with town in the game of mafia, you're working against them.
Verdict: would lynch

More to come.