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On April 21 2015 01:11 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 00:36 Vivax wrote:
So HF what about Koshi now? Changed your mind? much wow it's like you don't even read the pages of this game and just ask random questions that mean nothing! I literally posted the answer to this last page
No, you're lynching me because I am an easy target so you don't need to bus Koshi after spending the whole day talking about lynching him.
You're mafia.
SL - HF - Koshi
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i'm not mafia, i haven't done anything that makes me mafia, i'm just lazy and town 
your case wasn't very good at all because sl does all of that stuff all game and the ongoing game where he died the first thing he did was try and get vig to claim all day and he did the same here but the difference is here is that you're trying to push it as scummy when in fact it's just what sl does
also i've many a time got my scum read to try and side with me, just look at void or w/e where I asked my scum read to switch to hts
so basically your case is bad and it's the only thing you've pushed all game and you've dropped the majority of talking about anything else
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GlowingBear: (3); sicklucker, Koshi, WaveofShadow, Holyflare
sicklucker (1): GlowingBear
Koshi (2): WaveofShadow, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, Vivax
loafery (1): VayneAuthority
Vivax (1): Onegu
Not voting: loafery, WaveofShadow
Currently, GlowingBear is set to be lynched. Day ends in
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i'm lynching you because all you've done is push sl ++++++++++++++++
On April 19 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 23:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also since most relevant people I think agree on GB scum, so should we be switching to him rather than Koshi today? I do trust Artanis but lynching one of the players who isn't playing is still kind of a crap shoot in a way.
Also I wouldn't mind HF explaining his GB is 100000% scum read from yesterday. He asks questions that lead nowhere (he even copied one of my questions lol), he has long spats of afking and isn't interested in the game really. + all those reasons I gave in my long list. When he replied to your scum read or null read or whatever it was totally overdefensive and blown out of proportion and used other peoples actions when they were town to justify HIS actions this game. He should know this doesn't make any sense and it was SO SO SO long ago like wtf are you supposed to remember that foolishness did this one vote on you 10 years ago and who cares if you did it doesn't make gb anything at all. He did this the last game where he said "oh but if i'm scum i should be having this motivation!". It was just a terrible reply, especially as your read wasn't particularly strong. ++++ all those reasons at deadline of him doing weird stuff and his provisions like "if you scum read me you are definitely mafia!" and all that shit
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On April 18 2015 08:29 Holyflare wrote:
i kind of want to kill glowingbear because he obviously just gives no shits at all and his train of thought on ls makes no sense whatsoever
10/10 case on ls would lynch
would lynch loafery more though just waiting for an excuse not to vote ls
votes loafery
afk's long time with no word as to why till he gets back
still afk's
vote's ls
afk's again and doesn't care about flip
+ he hasn't scum read me yet, legitimate heuristic
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On April 21 2015 01:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 01:11 Holyflare wrote:On April 21 2015 00:36 Vivax wrote:
So HF what about Koshi now? Changed your mind? much wow it's like you don't even read the pages of this game and just ask random questions that mean nothing! I literally posted the answer to this last page No, you're lynching me because I am an easy target so you don't need to bus Koshi after spending the whole day talking about lynching him. You're mafia. SL - HF - Koshi
I pretty much feel the same about HF. Don't see much that makes you scum except people preaching that you're scum atm which is pretty much the dominating tenor.
HF on the other hand is doing a lot of scummy shit instead. He instantly calls people scum for asking questions or not voting his scumread with him, then complains about people flinging shit at him which is what he's been doing all game. Didn't see much improvement since he got back to his old standard.
Wanna go for a wagon of justice GB?
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the only time vivax played this game was when absolutely nobody else played it (d1) and now that everyone has started posting again he has no interest in this game at all and wants to afk lynch koshi cz he doesn't believe koshi's reasons, he then throws shit in every direction possible for later in the game to push more lynches, he has absolutely no interactions anymore and is probably mafia too
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His push on LS looks even more terrible to me now given it was the only guy he talked about after afking ALL of D1, but he doesn't mind throwing that accusation around when it isn't even true about me.
I don't even want to make this my main point. My main point is his shitty scummy focus on people who are easy to lynch and he barely worries about anyone else except for meaningless prods.
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On April 21 2015 01:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 01:15 GlowingBear wrote:On April 21 2015 01:11 Holyflare wrote:On April 21 2015 00:36 Vivax wrote:
So HF what about Koshi now? Changed your mind? much wow it's like you don't even read the pages of this game and just ask random questions that mean nothing! I literally posted the answer to this last page No, you're lynching me because I am an easy target so you don't need to bus Koshi after spending the whole day talking about lynching him. You're mafia. SL - HF - Koshi I pretty much feel the same about HF. Don't see much that makes you scum except people preaching that you're scum atm which is pretty much the dominating tenor. HF on the other hand is doing a lot of scummy shit instead. He instantly calls people scum for asking questions or not voting his scumread with him, then complains about people flinging shit at him which is what he's been doing all game. Didn't see much improvement since he got back to his old standard. Wanna go for a wagon of justice GB? ##Unvote
##Vote HF
If you can quote this instance then I will let you lynch me. I can tell you for a fact that this hasn't happened and it's a lie.
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On April 21 2015 01:17 Holyflare wrote:i'm not mafia, i haven't done anything that makes me mafia, i'm just lazy and town your case wasn't very good at all because sl does all of that stuff all game and the ongoing game where he died the first thing he did was try and get vig to claim all day and he did the same here but the difference is here is that you're trying to push it as scummy when in fact it's just what sl does also i've many a time got my scum read to try and side with me, just look at void or w/e where I asked my scum read to switch to hts so basically your case is bad and it's the only thing you've pushed all game and you've dropped the majority of talking about anything else
Trying to get vigi to claim is a thing
Assuming he shouldn't work with bad information and work with bad information to scumread a town that is an easy target is a completely different thing, and you're ignoring it.
Asking your primary scumread to vote your secondary scumread is weird, it should be the opposite. Artanis was ALREADY getting lynched. The context here tells it all.
The thing is: you were also a wagon. He simply secured LS was lynched so you certainly survives day1. That's why he asked active Artanis to vote LS. He secured the mislynch that way. No townie would jump on you out of the blue and get you lynched.
You reasons here shows that you're also criticising a case you haven't read properly. Or you're just trying to discredit me, because I've brought a lot of points and you're just focusing in one.
You're Mafia with SL
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and if you say "oh you posted a shit list!" I will absolutely 100% chase you down till the ends of the earth for being completely shit and using the same thing you called out on d1 and doing nothing else
On April 18 2015 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
no i didn't at all I just posted a list of people that afk'd and didn't care about the game or the direction it went
On April 18 2015 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
more for my own sake than anybody elses
^ I'll pre-empt your post for you and answer it saying that it was a list of people that didn't give a shit about the lynch and was for my own sake because mafia love to afk lynches and give no reasons to not be on wagons or divert themselves off town flips
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On April 21 2015 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
the only time vivax played this game was when absolutely nobody else played it (d1) and now that everyone has started posting again he has no interest in this game at all and wants to afk lynch koshi cz he doesn't believe koshi's reasons, he then throws shit in every direction possible for later in the game to push more lynches, he has absolutely no interactions anymore and is probably mafia too
No you piece of crap, I have to study for physio and while you post your little schoolboy memories I have to deal with these monsters:
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Afking is literally the only point you're bringing ahead cause you aim for the easy vulnerabilities to get people lynched.
LS cause he did something he did as scum and you didn't even know if he really believed it.
Me cause you try to paint the slightest amount of absence as scummy knowing that activity is one of my great town tells.
Koshi cause???
GB cause he's 10000% mafia or something along these lines when I feel it's just a sentiment.
All your scumreads this game formed on weak egocentric logic that just shoves them around hoping to stick.
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On April 21 2015 01:25 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 01:17 Holyflare wrote:i'm not mafia, i haven't done anything that makes me mafia, i'm just lazy and town your case wasn't very good at all because sl does all of that stuff all game and the ongoing game where he died the first thing he did was try and get vig to claim all day and he did the same here but the difference is here is that you're trying to push it as scummy when in fact it's just what sl does also i've many a time got my scum read to try and side with me, just look at void or w/e where I asked my scum read to switch to hts so basically your case is bad and it's the only thing you've pushed all game and you've dropped the majority of talking about anything else Trying to get vigi to claim is a thing Assuming he shouldn't work with bad information and work with bad information to scumread a town that is an easy target is a completely different thing, and you're ignoring it. Asking your primary scumread to vote your secondary scumread is weird, it should be the opposite. Artanis was ALREADY getting lynched. The context here tells it all. The thing is: you were also a wagon. He simply secured LS was lynched so you certainly survives day1. That's why he asked active Artanis to vote LS. He secured the mislynch that way. No townie would jump on you out of the blue and get you lynched. You reasons here shows that you're also criticising a case you haven't read properly. Or you're just trying to discredit me, because I've brought a lot of points and you're just focusing in one. You're Mafia with SL
No, that's not true in the slightest. I'm also not focusing on one point if you just made 3 or 4 paragraphs explaining different points am I? Trying to get the vigi to claim is anti town but I just gave you a complete instance where SL has done this as town and you ignore it and say it's a mafia agenda when it's not for SL. LS was also on sl's lynch list the entire game and I was fighting for the lynch pretty hard. Artanis was a mafia read for not doing anything and then artanis has a lot of pages near the deadline and sl switched off a town onto a town which isn't scummy either. It doesn't matter who he got to switch where because every single wagon was on a town on d1 (me/artanis/palmar/ls).
You're saying "oh you're mafia so sl was switching to save you" but I can tell you that your case is full of shit because I know i'm NOT mafia and he didn't switch to save me.
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I sheeped you because you're easier to be read that way HF.
If I sheep you and you're right, you're dead night1 if you're town.
If I aheep you and you're wrong and survive until day2, I have more time to evaluate you + I can repeat day1 strategy (if you lynch a Mafia, you're dead night2, if you mislynch and survive, you're most likely Mafia)
I don't even have to sheep you now because you're trying to mislynch a townie, so you're probably Mafia + you gameplay is scummy.
It makes perfect sense a team of you SL and Koshi. SL doesn't even care for Koshi in early day1
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On April 21 2015 01:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 01:20 Vivax wrote:On April 21 2015 01:15 GlowingBear wrote:On April 21 2015 01:11 Holyflare wrote:On April 21 2015 00:36 Vivax wrote:
So HF what about Koshi now? Changed your mind? much wow it's like you don't even read the pages of this game and just ask random questions that mean nothing! I literally posted the answer to this last page No, you're lynching me because I am an easy target so you don't need to bus Koshi after spending the whole day talking about lynching him. You're mafia. SL - HF - Koshi I pretty much feel the same about HF. Don't see much that makes you scum except people preaching that you're scum atm which is pretty much the dominating tenor. HF on the other hand is doing a lot of scummy shit instead. He instantly calls people scum for asking questions or not voting his scumread with him, then complains about people flinging shit at him which is what he's been doing all game. Didn't see much improvement since he got back to his old standard. Wanna go for a wagon of justice GB? ##Unvote
##Vote HF If you can quote this instance then I will let you lynch me. I can tell you for a fact that this hasn't happened and it's a lie.
On April 18 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2015 07:11 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2015 06:45 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2015 06:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I liked HF case and I want to try a method to evaluate his gameplay + I said I would sheep him
I'm voting LS until someone else agrees to vote deep soul or loafery What is this trash? You are trying a new method to read me and you 10/10 the case but are begging for any excuse to NOT be on the case you 10/10 and want to move onto deep soul the modkill guy or loafery the just new guy who I bet you haven't even looked into in his previous games. I'll tell you right now that I have and this is far more of a coin flip than anything else you've said. i'm also going to continuously spam this post until I get an answer this post alone makes me want to yolo lynch him and vivax has no input in it
On April 18 2015 07:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote:On April 18 2015 07:28 Holyflare wrote:
that's cool i'm town, artanis seems pretty towny and ls is scummy yet everyone is afk and vivax doesn't even want to vote switch to save people over someone that has a plethora of reasons to be mafia I can't save him yet you discredit me implying I can. Fuck you I'm voting for you you can switch to ls to save people if people come back because absolutely nobody is switching to koshi at the moment so your vote is wasted and you don't give a shit to indulge any of the reads im giving whatsoever i post a massive case on ls and you just quiz me on my posting style change and say you dont' want to lynch ls for no reason
On April 21 2015 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
the only time vivax played this game was when absolutely nobody else played it (d1) and now that everyone has started posting again he has no interest in this game at all and wants to afk lynch koshi cz he doesn't believe koshi's reasons, he then throws shit in every direction possible for later in the game to push more lynches, he has absolutely no interactions anymore and is probably mafia too
+ you going for policy doesn't make much sense if you're so confident about GB. The guy who is throwing shit into ever direction is you. I think Koshi has a decent shot at flipping mafia for his performance, yet you refuse to read his play either way cause??
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Anyway time to vote yourself HF cause if those posts weren't designed to push suspicion onto me I'll be sure you're lying.
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On April 21 2015 01:27 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
the only time vivax played this game was when absolutely nobody else played it (d1) and now that everyone has started posting again he has no interest in this game at all and wants to afk lynch koshi cz he doesn't believe koshi's reasons, he then throws shit in every direction possible for later in the game to push more lynches, he has absolutely no interactions anymore and is probably mafia too No you piece of crap, I have to study for physio and while you post your little schoolboy memories I have to deal with these monsters: Afking is literally the only point you're bringing ahead cause you aim for the easy vulnerabilities to get people lynched. LS cause he did something he did as scum and you didn't even know if he really believed it. Me cause you try to paint the slightest amount of absence as scummy knowing that activity is one of my great town tells. Koshi cause??? GB cause he's 10000% mafia or something along these lines when I feel it's just a sentiment. All your scumreads this game formed on weak egocentric logic that just shoves them around hoping to stick.
My LS case was absolutely not based on something he did as scum. I had an entire wall of text that GB replied 10/10 would lynch to. It was based on every single action he did THIS GAME. It had nothing to do with meta. It was based on the fact that he was only using incorrect meta to DEFEND people and never to attack. THis was after he said that he wouldn't use meta this game unless it was 100% correct. Regardless of if he went back to his own ways LS uses meta on people to determine whether they are scum normally and he did not do that at all.
The meta case came after his replies to my original case and re-confirmed my suspicions on him. Even then I tried to talk to him AND GET PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT THE CASE and he rage quit the thread and absolutely everyone decided to do nothing. You shit on the case because "oh it's a feeling that he's honest" which is the crappest reason I've ever heard, you decided to negate an entire lynch for no reason and then you afk'd at the deadline while LS was getting lynched for no reason and didn't give a shit that I was pushing your honest town read LS. Wave did the same thing but I've heard his reason and he elaborated on it which I kind of liked.
You're saying I'm pushing weak easy mislynches but then who are these weak easy mislynches? Koshi? YOU'RE PUSHING THE SAME FUCKING THING MORON. Holy fuck. You're literally calling me mafia for going after easy lynches while your d1 lynch was on Palmar who was town and claimed a role and was doing absolutely nothing. You now go after Koshi who is messing about and not doing anything. You're going to accuse ME of going after easy lynches with cases but I'm going after LS/GB/Koshi/Loafery while you just sit back, whine, call me mafia with GB and loafery and vote for koshi. You're doing nothing and accusing me of something I'm not even guilty of while you yourself are incredibly guilty for it.
You are the definite mafia in this game.
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On April 21 2015 01:26 Holyflare wrote:and if you say "oh you posted a shit list!" I will absolutely 100% chase you down till the ends of the earth for being completely shit and using the same thing you called out on d1 and doing nothing else Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
no i didn't at all I just posted a list of people that afk'd and didn't care about the game or the direction it went Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
more for my own sake than anybody elses ^ I'll pre-empt your post for you and answer it saying that it was a list of people that didn't give a shit about the lynch and was for my own sake because mafia love to afk lynches and give no reasons to not be on wagons or divert themselves off town flips
Like fucking palmar and Koshi
I don't care for your list, I care for your overall gameplay.
You AFK most of the time on day1, comes by when you're a target, manages to get people on LS and SL secures your survival.
Night time you say nothing insightful
You spend day2 talking about a policy lynch on Koshi then suddenly switches to me because you have weak reasons to scumread me
That's why you're scum. As SL, you're pushing your own Mafia agenda, instead of actually trying to fucking solve the game.
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On April 21 2015 01:34 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 01:27 Vivax wrote:On April 21 2015 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
the only time vivax played this game was when absolutely nobody else played it (d1) and now that everyone has started posting again he has no interest in this game at all and wants to afk lynch koshi cz he doesn't believe koshi's reasons, he then throws shit in every direction possible for later in the game to push more lynches, he has absolutely no interactions anymore and is probably mafia too No you piece of crap, I have to study for physio and while you post your little schoolboy memories I have to deal with these monsters: Afking is literally the only point you're bringing ahead cause you aim for the easy vulnerabilities to get people lynched. LS cause he did something he did as scum and you didn't even know if he really believed it. Me cause you try to paint the slightest amount of absence as scummy knowing that activity is one of my great town tells. Koshi cause??? GB cause he's 10000% mafia or something along these lines when I feel it's just a sentiment. All your scumreads this game formed on weak egocentric logic that just shoves them around hoping to stick. My LS case was absolutely not based on something he did as scum. I had an entire wall of text that GB replied 10/10 would lynch to. It was based on every single action he did THIS GAME. It had nothing to do with meta. It was based on the fact that he was only using incorrect meta to DEFEND people and never to attack. THis was after he said that he wouldn't use meta this game unless it was 100% correct. Regardless of if he went back to his own ways LS uses meta on people to determine whether they are scum normally and he did not do that at all. The meta case came after his replies to my original case and re-confirmed my suspicions on him. Even then I tried to talk to him AND GET PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT THE CASE and he rage quit the thread and absolutely everyone decided to do nothing. You shit on the case because "oh it's a feeling that he's honest" which is the crappest reason I've ever heard, you decided to negate an entire lynch for no reason and then you afk'd at the deadline while LS was getting lynched for no reason and didn't give a shit that I was pushing your honest town read LS. Wave did the same thing but I've heard his reason and he elaborated on it which I kind of liked. You're saying I'm pushing weak easy mislynches but then who are these weak easy mislynches? Koshi? YOU'RE PUSHING THE SAME FUCKING THING MORON. Holy fuck. You're literally calling me mafia for going after easy lynches while your d1 lynch was on Palmar who was town and claimed a role and was doing absolutely nothing. You now go after Koshi who is messing about and not doing anything. You're going to accuse ME of going after easy lynches with cases but I'm going after LS/GB/Koshi/Loafery while you just sit back, whine, call me mafia with GB and loafery and vote for koshi. You're doing nothing and accusing me of something I'm not even guilty of while you yourself are incredibly guilty for it. You are the definite mafia in this game.
Your push on Koshi is fucking fake and completely needless if you think it's just policy and already have other scumreads. Same as you trying to push suspicion on me at every turn possible. Be it not voting with you, not posting when I'm working, when I still give my utmost best to play this game since D1 cause I love mafia, or calling my questions to you a shitflinging, even when sometimes I miss stuff cause your filter is a mess.
You literally try your best to put everyone who opposes you in the worst light possible. I wouldn't be surprised if you called the whole town mafia if they wanted to lynch you, that's your standard this game and moreso displayed by your push on LS at EoD and your post afterwards where you say everyone not voting him was worthy of attention, which is fucking bullshit.
You also say I afked at deadline when it's absolutely not true. I tried to push my lynch and it wasn't on a fucking townie, it was mostly on a guy you want to policy today. So don't go telling me about me bitching about you pushing Koshi cause I have every reason to do so.
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On April 21 2015 01:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 01:23 Holyflare wrote:On April 21 2015 01:20 Vivax wrote:On April 21 2015 01:15 GlowingBear wrote:On April 21 2015 01:11 Holyflare wrote:On April 21 2015 00:36 Vivax wrote:
So HF what about Koshi now? Changed your mind? much wow it's like you don't even read the pages of this game and just ask random questions that mean nothing! I literally posted the answer to this last page No, you're lynching me because I am an easy target so you don't need to bus Koshi after spending the whole day talking about lynching him. You're mafia. SL - HF - Koshi I pretty much feel the same about HF. Don't see much that makes you scum except people preaching that you're scum atm which is pretty much the dominating tenor. HF on the other hand is doing a lot of scummy shit instead. He instantly calls people scum for asking questions or not voting his scumread with him, then complains about people flinging shit at him which is what he's been doing all game. Didn't see much improvement since he got back to his old standard. Wanna go for a wagon of justice GB? ##Unvote
##Vote HF If you can quote this instance then I will let you lynch me. I can tell you for a fact that this hasn't happened and it's a lie. Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2015 07:11 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2015 06:45 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2015 06:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I liked HF case and I want to try a method to evaluate his gameplay + I said I would sheep him
I'm voting LS until someone else agrees to vote deep soul or loafery What is this trash? You are trying a new method to read me and you 10/10 the case but are begging for any excuse to NOT be on the case you 10/10 and want to move onto deep soul the modkill guy or loafery the just new guy who I bet you haven't even looked into in his previous games. I'll tell you right now that I have and this is far more of a coin flip than anything else you've said. i'm also going to continuously spam this post until I get an answer this post alone makes me want to yolo lynch him and vivax has no input in it Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 07:30 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote:On April 18 2015 07:28 Holyflare wrote:
that's cool i'm town, artanis seems pretty towny and ls is scummy yet everyone is afk and vivax doesn't even want to vote switch to save people over someone that has a plethora of reasons to be mafia I can't save him yet you discredit me implying I can. Fuck you I'm voting for you you can switch to ls to save people if people come back because absolutely nobody is switching to koshi at the moment so your vote is wasted and you don't give a shit to indulge any of the reads im giving whatsoever i post a massive case on ls and you just quiz me on my posting style change and say you dont' want to lynch ls for no reason Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
the only time vivax played this game was when absolutely nobody else played it (d1) and now that everyone has started posting again he has no interest in this game at all and wants to afk lynch koshi cz he doesn't believe koshi's reasons, he then throws shit in every direction possible for later in the game to push more lynches, he has absolutely no interactions anymore and is probably mafia too + you going for policy doesn't make much sense if you're so confident about GB. The guy who is throwing shit into ever direction is you. I think Koshi has a decent shot at flipping mafia for his performance, yet you refuse to read his play either way cause??
You're most 100% definitely not reading the game. You also quoted posts that make me look incredibly towny. Thanks for that! The first quote outlines a reason I find GB scummy (which you criticise me for not pushing GB) and it was a scummy post, he agreed with a case and didn't want to lynch a flipped towny for no reason over the other people. That's incredibly scummy behaviour. The second quote is also me outlining scummy behaviour. Someone who doesn't want to vote a target that flipped town but they didn't even want to elaborate on their read on that person to try and divert the lynch any other direction (you).
Somehow you've proven my point that I'm actually pointing out good things while you aimlessly fling shit. THANKS BRO.
I have elaborated on Koshi. I think his posts on d1 where he was talking about being mafia and how he was town and stuff seemed pretty open and honest, and his d2 posts kind of solidified that. I purely wanted to lynch him because he was being a complete asshole and not playing the game. I've made this VERY clear whenever people say the same thing as you (which is about 3 times now).
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