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On April 26 2015 14:42 Fecalfeast wrote: All the heat on sandroba is because of the post about HP and damage? It's dumb and anyone could figure out some theory about it based on their starting HP/abilities. I don't think I've played with Sandroba, but I remember hearing he's good at scum. That seems like an unecessary gamble as an intro when the thread is so new. | ||
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On April 27 2015 00:58 indignant wrote: You think he really wanted to "trap" sandro with his first post? Or that his little rant about my role makes sense from a town mindset? Walk me through this. Last game I played with him, he claimed vig before revealing he was vet. I could see it. I'm assuming you have a similar role to mine so it makes sense to me but it is weird if you don't have that info that's a weird question. I'm assuming you have something like if x happens, lose y HP. | ||
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Real talk though, if people don't show up do we make them fight? Usually I'm overwhelmed with full games, but I've been in minis that were more active. | ||
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Vivax is easily capable of proving himself when he's here. If he doesn't we can force him with the promoter or just kill him with fire later. If Rso doesn't show up I wouldn't mind her. I know she said she was ignoring it but it still gives me bad vibes. Has she done stuff like this before? | ||
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On April 27 2015 22:04 indignant wrote: I don't think that would make the game any easier. Doubt it. Chez might be this gym thing but I guess he only knows who is part of the gym/training there and not their alignment. At least that's what I got out of it. So what can we expect out of Chez? Does he pick up as the game goes on? The only reason I haven't pushed him was the brown gloves comment before he said he was the gym/I suck at d1 but I'm starting to doubt that. | ||
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Unrelated, but if a mason would be so kind as to mason me tonight, I'd love you long time. | ||
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On April 27 2015 23:39 indignant wrote: I guess I know why - correct? Obviously. This isn't even koshi science. Yep. It's really not a big deal, since worst case is I take the HP hit, but if a mason can't decide, wouldn't hurt. | ||
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On April 27 2015 23:48 marvellosity wrote: too terrible Can you tell me how to distinguish whether he's town saying terrible things or mafia who is saying terrible things? my instinct says town because of his initial post - *normally* mafia don't just drop reads and leave, there's some kinda crummy justification in there Sorry, just saw this. Asking me how to explain how to identify scum is like asking Ray Charles to explain a rainbow. Generally, it gets easier for me as the game goes on since then it is easier to decipher the intent behind the posts. I honestly couldn't tell you one way or the other yet, but I'm inclined to agree with you so far on a gut feeling of town. His posts on you are what make me lean that way. I'd disagree with some if it (esp. you saying you'd be away but still posting, iirc you did that in Basterd or sone other game we played), but that's a huge jump in logic to get you/SL as reads from that this early. I'd expect scum to either push it harder or not comment until something more solid could be argued out of it. | ||
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On April 28 2015 00:57 sicklucker wrote: Im just super annoyed that your still talking about me. Im off the table. Heres a list of people that offensive night actions should be targeting Ls sandro breske rstoul Theres 2/3 scum in there those are the people whos hp we should be lowering tonight I'm not so sure on Breshke, he hasn't been super active, but I think he's showing how he did in NSM7 when I had him as a scum read. Looking at it now, I see enough similarities that I'd rather deal with some of the others. Going to put some thought into Sand/LS though. @Marv I'd agree on Rso for today. I'm not feeling the town vibes you are, but at least she's here and I'm not sold on her being scum either. Even the scum game I played with her she felt townier which is giving me pause. | ||
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I'd be down to policy Koshi at this point, but either way Breshke shouldn't be lynched today I think. Vote is going on Yamato until he shows up or we see something better. | ||
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He says he's new. I don't know how much I can put in it when his point was solid and he's only posted a couple times. Most people have barely pushed their reads so far. | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:28 rsoultin wrote: lol you think it's more likely for scum or town to waste votes when a scum is up for lynch and there's a strong counterwagon? xP Depends, I need to look into it. Was just making a note of it before I go out drinking. | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:51 marvellosity wrote: can someone cool tell me if i need to read all the pages i missed? i gathered the vote was extremely close but it seems like a lot of pages when we did good already. Basically Yamato showed up, a few of us switched to Sandroba (would have preferred Vivax at the time TBH) then the really bad lurkers showed up in droves and chose their wagons. | ||
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On April 28 2015 11:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: We might be spirit brothers. Who's your MKx main? Ermac. Who's your scum main? | ||
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On April 29 2015 01:55 indignant wrote: Depends on how it is used I guess? Why? Are you thinking about why HF also claimed a claim restriction? Yeah, I have a definite anti-town role that can be basically nullified for claiming and it will cost about half my health. If I say literally anything more than that, it happens (even this post might trigger it since it's kinda obvious). Obviously if it gets triggered I'll full claim. Point being, it's heavily restricted and if I changed the name to PGO instead of my role it would be triggered doing what he's claimed. I'm probably just being paranoid (pun intended), but it makes me a little uneasy. | ||
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On April 29 2015 02:00 rsoultin wrote: lol why? just rocking that double-buss theory or something? Well if that happens, I hope people would knock hp off sep and you'd live. But your play is incredibly active without doing much and I don't like it. | ||
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I don't get it. | ||
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On April 29 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote: -_- you're not making much sense. are you scumreading me or aren't you? i'm really getting tired of people saying i don't do much, but i guess if it's this widespread a feeling about my play maybe i just suck -_- I think Sep is scum, but if he flips town, I'm very confident you're not town. I'm beginning to think it already. So you being weaker makes you easier to deal with and puts you in a position where you actually have to try. Win-win in my book. | ||
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On April 29 2015 12:22 rsoultin wrote: lol >< starting with people's interpretations of the deafening silence so far this phase i mean i'm not sure it's possible to read into it so much, but you'd think there'd be more resistance to a vivax lynch than this if he were mafia? possibly? does that sound crazy? not that i really am inclined to townread him for it cause 1. he's definitely not done anything townie today so far 2. could just be being left out to dry 3. ehhhh i always get timing on the euros wrong lol >< and the day just started come to think of it actually i don't know why i brought this up :/ maybe it just bugs me how quiet everything is If he was town, he'd try to fight it. If mafia defended him, they would out themselves real easy. Until more happens, it's hard to take a lot out of night actions and this is the result unfortunately. | ||
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On April 29 2015 15:26 Xatalos wrote: Btw is this the reaction of a townie after nobody died >.> A scum doesn't post this in the thread usually. | ||
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On April 29 2015 23:10 rsoultin wrote: i will acknowledge that i don't do much in the way of case-building or mass quotes though  not my stylebueno yes, ls, shining is pretty underwhelming...i liked some of what stutters said here and there but i haven't actually gone through his filter so :/ kinda reserving judgment on him for right now. i don't see him being lynched over vivax/sepu at any rate Just woke up, I'm not getting lynched. Vivax is scum. Catching up. | ||
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On April 29 2015 20:31 marvellosity wrote: by the way, someone (maybe me) should go look at relevancies of d1 votes at the moment. like i was just skimming the playerlist because xata asked me that question. And I thought, where is The Shining? What do I even think of him? This vote for example - sandroba was leading 7-4 in the votes. Only 7 minutes to go. It is absolutely logical for a mafiaplayer to vote sandroba in that situation. Sorry, I just saw this. Yes, I can see that, but what about with Sand's power? 7-4 in favor of Sand, but Sand hadn't made his play yet and it is a pretty safe assumption the other scummers knew his power. So the practical count there is 6-6, do you think Shining puts Sand further in the lead there when a vote on Yamato would have been just as easy to justify for him? Did you take this into account when you said that? It doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'd miss. | ||
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On April 30 2015 02:01 Holyflare wrote: go for the people that look like scum not the ones that could have been sitting in a qt plotting the exact number of votes at the exact time in that cluster fuck of a deadline Oh I absolutely agree. That just seemed uncharacteristically not thought out of Marv compared to what I'd expect from him. It's not as clear cut as it's the logical thing for mafia to do, which is what the impression I got out of marv's posts on Shining lately. | ||
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On April 30 2015 02:19 marvellosity wrote: It's still pretty clear cut - there's a whole range of possibilities such as sandroba not saying what his powers are/were, sandroba not being around, Shining not being around, the fact that sandroba has to publically use his powers, and what have you. There was little reason to believe, I think, that yamato was going to get a spurt more votes, regardless of sandroba's voting powers. Plus what I said was intrinsically connected to what Shining had said earlier in the day about sandroba and his subsequent rather large explanation just a few minutes from deadline I might be giving him too much credit, but if he doesn't throw out the second post justifying voting Sandroba he could have easily gotten away with voting Yamato as a lurker. I'm not convinced on Shining, but that answered what I wanted to know about you. I feel better. | ||
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On April 30 2015 02:34 indignant wrote: I am pretty sure Shining is off the table anyways dude :p Haha yeah. Phone posting and I'm at work, so I was typing that, got busy then finished it without checking the thread. Anyway, if we're lynching FF, Vivax has to fight. | ||
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On April 30 2015 02:48 indignant wrote: Does all of this make bats pretty likely town? The whole botched interrogation + FF pushed for his lynch eod? The thing with Shining makes me think so but he didn't really push him EoD. If anything, I'd say it makes Damdred look better since he used his Sandroba vote as his justification for switching off. More than likely though, he probably just needed an excuse to get off of Sand and Damdred happen to be the most convenient. Either way, I'm not putting much into that, especially before he flips. | ||
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On April 30 2015 03:58 indignant wrote: What are you talking about? FF was on bats and not on damdred. I don't even know what damdred has to do with all of this. The vote justification thing is not very conclusive in my opinion. I was saying FF was on Bats but he switched to Bats because Damdred voted Sandroba. I just read it again and it looks like I fucked up the order of events since he was on Bats before saying that so disregard that previous post. | ||
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On April 30 2015 05:04 indignant wrote: I find that hard to believe FF. This role sucks. I'm not sold on the role sucking. Before he claimed, he was a vet that if he plays town, must be RBd or hit twice. If he was definitely town that isn't that shabby, would probably soak at least one NK. | ||
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On April 30 2015 06:02 marvellosity wrote: I wasn't aware you couldn't just outright claim your role like that, bish else I + many others would have mentioned it 5 pages ago when FF claimed, hmm? I can't speak for anyone else, but I didn't want to try and get modkilled for gaming the system so I wanted to wait until a host responded. Now that it's out there though, I don't see how we can not lynch FF. | ||
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On April 30 2015 06:11 The Shining wrote: Well I'm dead tonight anyway barring some awesome fellow blue intervention so why not? I'm Iimura Mari. Wiki her and it'll explain why I'm a watcher/tracker/visit whoever the person I visit also visits. I can't do it back to back nights. I'd say it's important to keep me alive through N2 until N3 because even if I get KOd at night, the results of my tracking/watching will be reported the next night. O and yeah, I can't fight. So wouldn't that mean if you died tonight, it would still be reported tonight since you checked last night? | ||
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Sep - Vivax - I feel like this captures the mood of the game so far. | ||
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Also, is Vivax confirmed scum because he didn't report getting hit? | ||
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On May 01 2015 01:30 LightningStrike wrote: Okay Shining to give who I would lynch after Vivax and FF I would prob go for Stutters I haven't really been impressed with his play and had very low content too. Sick analysis bro. Show me any actual reason you think I'm scum and I'll show you why you're wrong. | ||
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On May 01 2015 02:19 LightningStrike wrote: You been very forgettable which isn't a good thing as town, very low filter for someone who posted mostly one liners, been trying to avoid attention from others which something scum likes to do, claimed your role have issues about claiming which seems very antitown. This is so selective it's unreal. The majority of the thread is forgettable because our lynches are essentially pre-selected and there isn't much to discuss. You don't even mention how the voting d1 went which is a pretty big deal. In no way have I actively avoided attention. In fact, I would honestly say I've been more proactive this game than most. You've further failed to demonstrate how those one liners are a negative in any way. Additionally one of your few actual solid reads (indignant) claimed the same thing yet that is a point against me. None of these are solid points and it shows yet again how little you are actually reading the thread. Try again. | ||
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On May 01 2015 04:11 LightningStrike wrote: Day 1 Yamato became confirmed town seeing how we lynched Sandroba and how Vivax tried to push people to Yamato so Vivax became confirmed Mafia from Day 1 voting. You changed from Yamato to Sandroba because you would rather lynch Vivax and knowing Sandroba flipped scum and Vivax is scum too so I can see you (if your mafia) bussingboth Sandroba and Vivax Day 1 for town cred. Now you claim a point of me and JAT yet you said it's a point for JAT and yet not for me? Your contradicting yourself. Your never revisted OWS,FF, and Chez's wasted votes at EoD which seemed to had some interest yet you never revist it? Pure WIFOM. You could say that about literally anyone on the wagon. If I wanted to bus them I could have easily done so much more successfully than that and gotten near HFs level of town cred, especially given my large history of pushing Vivax. You implied that the issues about claiming is anti-town when one of your strongest town reads has the same restriction showing it's possible unless you think he's scum also. I looked into it slightly, realized it's super confusing and stopped once the FF deal happened since that leaves me 5+ RL days before it's relevant and new into might make it for naught. | ||
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Sure did. Doesn't answer what I'm saying though. The only two reasons I'm not tunneling the shit out of you right now is I wasted my entire last game on prpl and was wrong and that meta point about you claiming. | ||
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On May 01 2015 06:37 LightningStrike wrote: why would I use it now when the lynch is secured atm? So you don't use it when we don't want you too. Pretty obvious. | ||
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On May 01 2015 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Well I can't move you to the bottom of the list to fight Sepulchre. It's gonna be forever until I can get you there. Honestly the town deaths tonight might make it easier for me to pair scummy people up, and if they don't happen then we still have our towny people and my role isn't all that necessary. I just meant the normal promoter fight. If I'm not going to be promoter, let me rek9 sone bitches. | ||
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On May 02 2015 05:26 marvellosity wrote: what stutters? yamato is kinda a gimme lynch at any time if he's mafia. Oh, I don't know his meta really. I meant just based off of the thread sentiment. | ||
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Sep was just me trying to outright kill him with my punch to thin out the lynch pool. | ||
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On May 02 2015 07:32 rsoultin wrote: meeeeeeeh now things aren't lining up again -_- lovely stutters did nothing happen to you when you used that power? and yeah no clue on jean...maybe one of his cases was his check? Correct. It's not a negative against HF though necessarily. Need to figure out how it works exactly before I explain. | ||
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On May 02 2015 07:02 sicklucker wrote: he probably did look in his filter you lazy sack of shit Valjean clearly didn't... | ||
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Yes. I can explain it but not yet. | ||
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On May 02 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote: not sure how to answer this lol? pretty sure it was mafia kp though So mafia would know how your PGO works to a basic extent? | ||
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On May 02 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote: no idea why stutters used stuff on me btw and it's incredibly strange if he took no dmg back and won't explain it he said the above but i think it's bull shit especially after yesterday where i asked to end the fight specifically because i couldn't really be taking anymore dmg, it would be a good cover for mafia trying to finish me off With your permission, I'll explain but it will show more info about your role. Your choice. | ||
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On May 02 2015 08:56 Xatalos wrote: It's extremely weird why he would A) do this B) claim this. It makes little sense as either alignment. Maybe they decided the way to go would be to make bad claims haha (see: FF, Javert) Can you do me a huge solid and see if you can locate where he said that about not taking more damage and quote it for me? I'm phone posting and can't seem to find it and I was under the impression he took no damage or else I wouldn't have chanced it how I did. | ||
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If you guys still think I'm scum, I'll use my anti town part to knock my own hp down to 9 and you guys can make me fight twice to kill me off. I have 3 parts to my role. One is classic anti-town and the other two are one shot abilities that I used both of last night. First one is I put on a tiger suit and intimidate everyone for one night. This lets me choose a target and any actions that target me get redirected to a target of my choice. Second is a one time use 8 HP punch. I had two reasons for targeting you with the punch. I punched for 2 reasons. I was under the impression you had 12+ hp and hadn't been hit based off of flips / you claiming pgo. Punching you allowed me to redirect the hit onto Sep and I thought you actually had enough firepwer to kill. More importantly, the longer the game goes on the more sketchy a PGO looks. This allowed me to at least tell if you were being truthful about PGO which will help later in the game if you don't die. Redirecting onto Sep was for two reasons also. I needed to be able to tell that my actions resulted in the kill. If I targeted Vivax, there was a decent posibility of him getting killed anyway and I wouldn't be able to tell. Additionally, I felt he has a pretty good chance of flipping scum and with how little posting he has I didn't know how much better we'd be able to read him. So I punch you for 8, you PGO me which is redirected to Sep for 9. Now I'm wondering why you don't have any opinions on who hit you earlier if they should have taken damage from your pgo. | ||
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On May 02 2015 10:28 Holyflare wrote: so you're saying that you did 8 dmg to me and redirected the action i did back to you onto sep? Yes. | ||
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On May 02 2015 10:41 Holyflare wrote: probably still mafia though  If I was mafia, I wouldn't make a dumb play like this. I'd just kill you with that role, no one would no and it'd be over with. If you guys decide to lynch me, just make me fight 3 times and I'll claim to kill myself instead if wasting a lynch. | ||
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On May 02 2015 11:06 Damdred wrote: Or is woefully incorrect about his own ability Explain. I know exactly what I did. If that damage didn't come from me, then HF is lying about PGO. | ||
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On May 02 2015 11:10 The Shining wrote: So waste 3 fights(15 HP DMG, which is more than one lynch worth of HP for certain roles) over 3 day phases instead of 1? Seems like an attempt to survive. Lynch me then. I'm sure we can spare it, but I would absolutely not claim that damage if I was scum trying to kill HF. I could simply punch HF and redirect the PGO damage onto him, I take no damage and no one even knows I did it. Makes no sense. | ||
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On May 02 2015 11:08 Damdred wrote: How did he do 9 dmg to Sep basically when I was responsible for some of it? This guy. | ||
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On May 02 2015 11:15 Damdred wrote: You just said that you did 9 dmg to him? I said HF's PGO was redirected to him for 9 assuming (as I explained before) that people wouldn't be targeting Sep so I could conclude that HF actually is PGO. | ||
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On May 02 2015 11:15 The Shining wrote: Sep claimed 9. Damdy would've done 2 so Stutters redirect would've been 7. Still off by 1. The damage done to Sep and HF are completely separate. HF took 8 unless he had some sort of protection, there is nothing off there. | ||
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On May 02 2015 11:17 The Shining wrote: So your defense of it is a wifom argument. Ugghhhhhh. Sorry, I know I'm spamming a lot. My defense is how blatantly illogical this would be as scum. If you can't see that, I don't know what to say. | ||
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On May 02 2015 11:34 Holyflare wrote: yeh it's entirely plausible that happened but dmg is still missing On you? Or from your power? | ||
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On May 02 2015 12:08 Breshke wrote: I dont get why people didn't jsut damage vivax so we could kill him without having to lynch him I right PGO was a 1 hit kill so I didn't want to waste it on someone I assumed others were targeting | ||
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On May 02 2015 12:52 Holyflare wrote: well tinfoil aside stutters probably definitely mafia/3p No, that's dumb. | ||
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On May 02 2015 13:01 Holyflare wrote: using 8 dmg on a claimed low person who has lynched mafia is the definition of dumb my friend  I told you guys I was considering what could possibly be the worst play 2015. My brain said no, but my dick wanted that sweet, sweet glory if Sep flipped scum off that. | ||
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On May 02 2015 13:39 Holyflare wrote: yeh well one of those people is talking about actual motives and referring them to their alignments and the other isn't talking about it at all and is intentionally making me get into a shit fight further while just pointing out the obvious anyway, stutters claimed to want to test his 8dmg on me because "why not" even though he had no reason to suspect me whatsoever and i've pushed mafia, this is over all those lurkers that have been called into question he also hasn't been reading the thread since everyone in this game knew i had low hp yesterday from me telling breshke to cancel the fight i also received 6 dmg on n1 and he knew that my role wouldn't work after i claimed it since he brought it up and i told him to stop talking about it No, as I said d1 when I asked so if you do x, you lose y HP? Because that's how mine works. It made no difference towards my actual abilities. As I said, I thought you canceling the fight was due to two obv town fighting/Marv taking night damage. If you guys can deal 11 damage to me, I will gladly claim so you can kill me and get over this. I wanted to use your power to straight up kill Sep since if it was a true PGO, taking a hit wouldn't be the end of the world since Sep dies and when scum would hit you they'd die, getting a 2 for 1. Additionally, if I was scum there is literally no need for me to claim it in the thread, I could have just done it and killed you outright. | ||
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On May 03 2015 00:05 Holyflare wrote: if his mechanic is "the amateur fight is in the first 24 hours of the day since i pick it at night" then how can hosts possibly know if people are in the main fight if i submit those names 24 hours into the day phase? My understanding was amateur fight happens at 24, so when you're locked into the main fight is when it would happen. | ||
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On May 04 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote: Also thinks it makes stutters more likely mafia Explain plz. | ||
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I can't tell anymore, themed games are so hard x.x | ||
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 being themed and this large is pretty overwhelming for me without having significantly more time to play. Gonna catch up today and try to figure something out. Sorry. | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote: His content been meh the entire game, claimed to hit HF it looks so dumb to do as Mafia but he's a new player I would expect him to do it. I'm 3-0 as scum. | ||
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I think I found the scum guys. | ||
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On May 07 2015 01:59 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways I will argue with everyone if they think Stutters is Mafia because he's totes town by meta. I still don't get why you completely 180d on me now that you're pretty close to dying. | ||
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LS's meta read is correct, however that's not a genuine flip. Send like he just skimmed it and decided it's cool. | ||
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On May 09 2015 00:40 Xatalos wrote: I guess lynching Stutters might be better then... If we can be reasonably sure that OWS will die anyway. 0 damage, but I can essentially drop my HP from 20 to 11 at a whim if you guys can kill me off with fights. | ||
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On May 09 2015 04:42 LightningStrike wrote: I already told you he's totes town read his last game in Student VII when he was town and tell me how he's scum here............ So I take it you're going to flip scum so you're trying to buddy me to set up a mislynch? | ||
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I don't believe it will happen, but if that's the case props for nailing my meta perfectly. Wouldn't want to be scum against you lol. | ||
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