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On April 26 2015 11:57 Damdred wrote: I'm sorry ls Why you sorry? | ||
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On April 26 2015 12:00 Damdred wrote: That you and xata rolled scum together I not scum I town why you think I scum? | ||
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On April 26 2015 12:09 Damdred wrote: You came into the thread wanting to lynch someone instantly that's unlike what I'm used to with ls. Do you think xat is scum actually? No it just a joke lol. But for real what you got from your interactions with him alignment wise? | ||
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On April 26 2015 12:34 Damdred wrote: I have a light tone read on him. But besides that not much else, I think he might be maybe town but I'm not so sure yet Alrighty. I remember you talked something about Xata the last time you two played together can you two read each other like a book? | ||
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On April 26 2015 17:52 Xatalos wrote: To be honest I'd say I have a weak townread on Damdred right now. I've kind of liked his stunts and (somewhat genuine-looking) active evaluation of the thread. About the "read each other like a book" part... Well... I don't think we have such a successful history in reading each other (Although I killed Damdred last time as Maifa because he said something pretty important about my playstyle that would probably have gotten me caught eventually.) Ya I was referring to Carol and this post from Damdred during Day 1: On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote: Heres the group I would be happy lynching into today Froggy: One post said he was going to bed, the post had plenty of double speak in it and he hasn't returned and its been quite awhile (which isn't inherrintly scummy) Bats: Hes probably the least hesitant that I would be willing to lynch into. Besides a couple of posts he is completely forgettable, he misrepresented peoples posts and then was forced to play and lurked since then. FF: His posts seem to lack direction and its really difficult to even remember what all hes been doing in the thread without reading his filter. I'm not sure that I would lynch 27nb today, she has done some scummy things i'm just a bit hesitant and the follow up to her return will decide that. People i won't listen about: Damdred, SL, Templars, HF, Koshi, RS, Oats, probably LS, kush People who i love but am suspicious of Xatalos (its just so formulaic and looks so town, he once told me that hes probably mafia when he actually looks town) GB: Hasn't really read the thread yet has pretty unexplained reads tried to get people to view him as town becasue he had a present what? Unexplained scum read on templars I think even though hes claimed HTS pretty unremarkable play so far but i doubt i would lynch her, even though the posts are scattered does have a somewhat direction and train of thought. Tube: Need him to post more but he is seeming okish so far one of my top lynches is a policy lynch basically and i know that, which makes his post even more hilarious to me. Also a question from rsoultin to me: On April 26 2015 12:41 rsoultin wrote: but not read what you missed >> I did read the thread you goof ball why else would I make a joke regarding Xata :O | ||
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On April 26 2015 20:44 indignant wrote: This post feels off. The bolded paragraph in particular seems like Breshke knows that sandro is town. Why do you just assume that sandro is right if you just stated multiple reasons that indicate otherwise? I also don't really understand what's so interesting about this in general since based on sandros post it should be obvious what he is talking about (his own HP). Ya it seems tmi and I know Breshke sometimes as Mafia does tmi about at least 1 persons alignment. | ||
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On April 26 2015 22:21 Inspector Javert wrote: Mafia: xata, SL, maybe sandro (less likely cause claimed approx. HP), some lurkers Town: damdred Can you explain why you think each person is either Town or Mafia please? | ||
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On April 27 2015 00:38 Damdred wrote: I totally am in love with this thread and all the town reads shoe,me,more love people! I will punch these mafia into submission. Why not give us your reads ls? My reads are kinda weak since no one is really posting much but here someone quicks thoughts on people: Slight Towns: Damdred: Seems pretty happy right now and got some directions with his posts. Xatalos: Asking some revelevant questions regarding Damdred's read on him and trying to generate discussion. indignant: TRying to generate discussion and caught a possible tmi thing from Breshke. Null: Inactives Scum: Breshke: Might of tmi'd Sandroba's alignment? Inspector Javert: Really dislike his lack of explanation for his reads on his reads post. | ||
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Wait is indignant JAT? | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:07 marvellosity wrote: I think breshke is town too, I don't really recall him getting stuck in early with longish posts as mafia He posted some longish posts before early as Mafia in NYE Party here's a example: On January 07 2015 07:36 Breshke wrote: It is really based in nothing but so LS overreacts to something. Various people tell him to not take it seriously and when he posts about it again he seems to still be taking it seriously. I post something dumb inferring him and SL are scum and he doesn't even respond to it so i can only assume he isn't taking it seriously. There is a chance he didn't even see it but he seems eager to play so i assume he is reading every post. There is clearly a different reaction here hence why I think he could easily be faking it. As to why he would fake it is because i think LS is very aware of his own meta and taking everything seriously would align more with how he plays as town. | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:19 LightningStrike wrote: He posted some longish posts before early as Mafia in NYE Party here's a example: This post I quoted was from early Day 1 in NYE Party Mafia. | ||
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I tried some at my dad boss's party :O | ||
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Did you just claim to be Eden? | ||
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It was okay but wouldn't have some again :O | ||
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On April 27 2015 03:04 sandroba wrote: @LS any commentary that isn't trolling, talking about past games, or random chat? I liking JAT/Eden or whoever that smurf is this game along with Xata and Damdred I feel like those 3 are prob the towniest of all towns esp given how very little posts there are in this game. Marv is being meh atm since he posting a bunch null stuff. | ||
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Dig won 3-2 vs Fusion and retains their NA LCS spot :O ##Vote: Breshke | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote: OK so you say breshke is more likely scum than IJ but why is he more likely scum than anyone else in the game? Do you have no comment on anything anyone else has said? I was agreeing alot with JAT post on Breshke and Breshke's large post wasn't good it was just a whole bunch of nothing when I had read it. | ||
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On April 27 2015 09:50 Fecalfeast wrote: What's actually wrong with sandroba? I don't see much wrong with him myself. | ||
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On April 27 2015 10:02 rsoultin wrote: awww making me actually do things :/ such mean, ineffective lodestones y'all are. why doesn't an rsoul get to be lazy when everyone else does it all the time? ;o; hypocrites! lol ^^ i gueeeeessss i'll actually read the thread tch When you catch can you give me your reads and thoughts please? <3 | ||
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On April 27 2015 10:07 rsoultin wrote: nope ^^ gonna keep them all to myself and laugh at you scrubs have you scumread me yet for not playing? if not... scum!ls woooooot! first scum maybe? + Show Spoiler + has he? xP No I haven't scumread you because there was others who didn't post yet or were inactive. | ||
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On April 27 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote: ah damn that must be my problem :/ oh well ##vote: rsoultin i give up! Why give up | ||
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On April 27 2015 10:32 rsoultin wrote: >> but i'm special at least i was in aperture i'm not special to you anymore, ls? ;o; your words, they wound We already talked about this on skype ofc I still <3 you and you know should know why I wasn't scumreading you this time >.> | ||
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Where you got this idea we are a couple now? | ||
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On April 27 2015 10:36 rsoultin wrote: lolol yeah i'm such a prude xP (actually i don't know why you weren't this game lol ><) but hey if you don't try to lynch me i'll give you virtual cookies! Because you complained to me post game of Aperture about it. | ||
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On April 27 2015 10:39 rsoultin wrote: lol >< yes, i thought it was dumb that you thought i should be posting while we were playing voice mafia and that the fact that i didn't meant i was scum here i've just not given a shit for a full 24 hours xP I didn't want to fight you again so early again :O | ||
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On April 27 2015 10:45 rsoultin wrote: but it's a fighting game! put em up! -bounces around, throwing practice punches- seriously, ls, why not fight me? what if i'm... >> << SCUM! -gaspshetotesjustsaidthat- I not much of a fighter unless I got a good reason to fight :O | ||
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On April 27 2015 10:46 Holyflare wrote: "Gasps he totes just said that" Rsoul reconfirmed old man. She not a old man I met her irl already :O + Show Spoiler + We went to Six Flags while she was in my area | ||
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No we just went on rides and have lunch and dinner there ^_^ | ||
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@Xata and Breshke: Maybe talk to Damdred about me because he can read my alignment really good :O @rsoultin Are you here? I would like to speak to you! | ||
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On April 27 2015 21:47 Breshke wrote: So if you didn't want to lynch me who would you rather lynch? Inspector Javert I really hated his list post earlier plus his reason to vote Marv is bad just because he(Marv) was doing something else and the fact Marv told the thread when he would be gone and he was gone at the time making his vote worse. He also haven't really done much in this game too with lots of white noise in his posts except his thing on Marv/SL's interaction which I don't think is a blatant bus or that was prob the worst bus I ever seen by Marv/SL if they are both scum. | ||
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On April 27 2015 21:58 Damdred wrote: XD look at imperial mafia. He bussed ritoky from the very start lol I think he would gone after ritoky regardless of his own alignment because ritoky's angry posts towards Dr.H was so close to how he posted to me in Carol. | ||
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On April 27 2015 22:31 Koshi wrote: Ok. We either lynch marv or we lynch sl. Everything else is retarded. The people who are on Breshke also are the people who think marv will solve the game but blatantly ignore the fact that marv said breshke is town...... You people really suck. He retracted his townread since it was aout how he only makes longish posts as town when I showed how Breshke is capable of making longish posts as scum too. | ||
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On April 27 2015 22:20 Damdred wrote: I don't think that disproves what I said however LS. I might not actually put work in at this juncture honestly, when people are BM for no reason towards me I don't have to do jack shit. Anyway, any direct questions ask away I wasn't being bm I was just giving my opinion on something that happened in a past game :O | ||
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How is Vivax for that post? | ||
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On April 28 2015 00:55 rsoultin wrote: ls you wanted to talk to me before i posted that xP and i will say i find it odd (thus all the questions last night) that of all people you weren't one of the ones screaming for my head? who cares if i was angry in an earlier game for a stupid scumread on me lol >< i gave you free rein this game! everyone really...i saw a push from you earlier on i forget who so am shelving that for now, but i find it hard to believe you'd just decide not to pressure me simply cause i can get angry and i've already said that maybe he's not town, but the read on marv was good -_- Ya how you feel about Breshke? Also I didn't want you to be angry :O | ||
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On April 28 2015 01:55 rsoultin wrote: :/ eh. yeah i just can't tell, cause i can actually see him caring more about me being growly than catching me if i'm scum...much as that seems counter-intuitive >< i dunnae Well you just seem a little to happy but you need be more serious now :O | ||
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On April 28 2015 01:59 rsoultin wrote: ...-facepalms- you thought i was too happy to be scum is that what this means ls? You post freely it just a tone read. | ||
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On April 28 2015 02:12 Koshi wrote: Slam is mafia because he isn't having fun and this is a game with Chezinu in. He isn't doing anything. 100% mafia. And then that post about BH being good.... rofl dafuq was that post????? Had you played with Slam and Chez in the same game and if so tell me the name of the games so I can check them out myself? | ||
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On April 28 2015 04:14 Koshi wrote: People that could be mafia. I might be missing 1. Sepulchre sandroba Jean Valjean Inspector Javert Chezinu The Shining Breshke sicklucker yamato77 Koshi Rygart Holyflare indignant LightningStrike ObiWanShinobi Damdred Isn't that the majority of the game? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Yamato777 | ||
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On April 28 2015 05:56 indignant wrote: Oh god. What's happening to Koshi? He lost his mind. | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:21 sicklucker wrote: No i didnt infact I think its so obvious mafia is pushing off sandro onto yamato Are you suggesting only Mafia been defending Sandroba? | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:27 yamato77 wrote: I couldn't even play! Fuking Vivax has to be fucking mafia. You can't seriously be this bad two games in a row. He also haven't posted conspiracy theories yet O_o | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:42 Vivax wrote: You guys are fucking awful really, get on yammo. I'm baffled how you can let a guy live who only posts something 1:30 before deadline. It's logical arguments vs emotional bandwagony bullshit, don't let this become town of salem pls If we do a switch to Breshke will you join? | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:44 rsoultin wrote: no no no breshke is probably not mafia here >< Bshke been meh this entire game and he's throwing away his vote for a reason that is crap and he done as Mafia before (NYE Party he went onto me just because Bats on me) | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:48 Breshke wrote: why do you jsut ignore me LS YOU THINKK IM SCUM INTERACT WITH ME I was asleep up until now i come back who fuckin knows whats going on so i sheep the person ive been readng msot town which is xatat. How am iw asting my vote??? See you sauid this and i can understand that you didnt see i changed my vote but you should of by now yet you keep saying the same thing. Oh thought you were votign Xata not Sandroba but you didn't really think Sandroba was scum what changed now? | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:56 Holyflare wrote: Yeh ok everyone dodge this sandro lynch. I'm coming after you with fiery vengeance. Entertain me :O | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:30 sicklucker wrote: So Sepulchre , ls pretty close to confirmed scum with their votes. Inspector Javert and vivax look pretty bad too I honestly didn't think Sandroba was scum and Damdred and others conplained to me in Student VIII how I wasted my vote on someoen who I thought was Mafia and not on one of the wagons. | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:32 sicklucker wrote: ya very shady people tbh. Now we know who to kill. Make the fight something like Ls vs sept That fight is town vs null since I know I am Town. | ||
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I still kinda do but I trust HF's judgement since he's a good player by reputation. | ||
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On April 28 2015 11:12 Breshke wrote: Mmmk. I hope you realise that you were infact wrong about me TMI about sandrobas alignment because of that flip. Was there any other reasons than this that you voted yamato over sandroba? When I read Sandroba's filter I didn't see anything that stuck out that he was scum and I know I heavily bussed him JOAT but others also said Sandroba is just a bad player too so meh. I think that EoD votes confirms Yamato as town now. | ||
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On April 28 2015 11:23 Stutters695 wrote: I'm drunk, go bolts. @LS, can you explain how it confirms Yamato? I can see it either way, but I might have missed something. With the way the votes were going and seeing Sandroba flip scum and how Vivax tried to get people off of Sandroba to Yamato pretty much confirms Yamato as town at least in my mind I know it might be faulty logic but why would scum!Vivax move votes from scum!Sandroba to scum!Yamato in that situation? | ||
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On April 28 2015 11:31 Fecalfeast wrote: are you implying that vivax is probably scum here? Correct. | ||
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On April 28 2015 11:31 Breshke wrote: what if vivax is town and just really thought yamato was mafia and sandroba mafia. You voted for yamato so you must have thought this at one point If Vivax is town he changed his meta way to dramatically from the last I had played with him. | ||
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On April 28 2015 11:54 Breshke wrote: In what ways. What do you think his old meta was and how do you think it has changed? He comes up with these weird conspiracy theories as town and calls everyone mafia at one point or another but he not really doing any of that. He only called Yamato scum and that's it I think correct me if I wrong that. | ||
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On April 27 2015 10:02 LightningStrike wrote: I don't see much wrong with him myself. Also bats is jut a weird player from experience with playing with him regardless of his alignment. | ||
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On April 28 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote: LS, why did you have nothing to say about what HF was talking about with sandroba? He pushed his point *a lot* so it's not like you could have missed it? Also I mean yes I saw that post in your filter, but it was a long time before all the serious discussion happened around sand in the last several hours of the day I checked Sandroba's filter and others said Sandroba is just a bad player when the serious discussion was going around which is how I felt about him myself. I think it kinda reminds me of FF's case on me in Guardians Day 1 when that case can be used in every game I had played. | ||
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On April 28 2015 22:18 Holyflare wrote: Shall i get the collar and lead out? (Smelted the collar metal part into a hammer) You got the hammer now :O | ||
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On April 28 2015 22:26 marvellosity wrote: So when Holyflare made the point that sandroba couldn't possibly think HF's reads were fabricated because he'd only just come back to the thread, what did you think? I remember Sandroba said he was reading the thread and thought he just being genuine about it myself when he saw the list post by HF I mean he coulda been afk while were all discussing things to form reads. | ||
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On April 28 2015 22:28 indignant wrote: This is also something that irks me about Obi. He just pushed the thought that sandroba is always terrible as town. Does he not know better or what's up with that? Well before this game OWS did change his town play style to look townier than normal and I thought he was Mafia for that by meta but he stepped up there but now I not seeing his style here. So to answer the question truthly idk what you think of OWS based on that? | ||
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On April 28 2015 22:33 Holyflare wrote: Sandroba was quite clearly not consistent. (Shrugs) I shoulda known better about him because I was his scum partner in JOAT and bussed him hard there although a bit mindlesss at the time. | ||
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On April 28 2015 22:36 Holyflare wrote: Gut reactions to terrible voting usually correct I trusting you a little bit more than I did when you were Unholyflare after that flip hence why I said you use your best judgement. | ||
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On April 28 2015 22:39 indignant wrote: What's your current stance on the swamp inhabitant? Still town? I kinda think so even though this hardcore tunnel is a little disturbing. But I am the Town Puppy :O Just been playing more fetch than anything for a bit and now in serious mode: I here all day until I go watch a baseball game feel free to ask me anything. | ||
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On April 28 2015 22:47 marvellosity wrote: thought experiment: what were Damdred's options? Sandroba or Yamato were his only options but he sheeped his townreads (Shining and HF). | ||
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On April 28 2015 22:56 rsoultin wrote: lol >< i'm a swamp creature! yes that was a dazzling insight of awesome there Hey thoughts on OWS and Vivax? | ||
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On April 28 2015 23:05 rsoultin wrote: considering they're the reason i got off yamato's wagon xP despite sheeping marv early in the game you tell me? i dunnae though that whole derailing the thread theory about OWS seems strange since he doesn't have anywhere near the pull for that lol >< vivax prob scum though I agree that Vivax is likely scum and OWS seemed off compared to Student VIII but idk tbh with you. | ||
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On April 28 2015 23:12 Xatalos wrote: My role does have kind of a restriction unfortunately. Quoting this for later to remind myself later in the game to talk about this but it's not important enough right now. | ||
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On April 28 2015 23:20 Xatalos wrote: Just in general or some specific reason? A specific reason which I wont talk about till the time comes. | ||
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On April 28 2015 23:23 Xatalos wrote: If it's actually important you should probably say it while you're alive though. A Vigi could kill you or something. I only been nk'd 3 times as 3 different blue roles. Once as the unCCed Cop finding Mafia. Once as Vig shooting Mafia when someone else claimed Tracker. Once as a rolleblocker where I claimed because of so many blue claims. | ||
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On April 28 2015 23:25 LightningStrike wrote: I only been nk'd 3 times as 3 different blue roles. Once as the unCCed Cop finding Mafia. Once as Vig shooting Mafia when someone else claimed Tracker. Once as a rolleblocker where I claimed because of so many blue claims. Also I was nk'd as a weird like Cop/Parity cop variation. | ||
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On April 28 2015 23:38 Holyflare wrote: I'm going to promote the shit out of this fight. Who you going to put up to fight? | ||
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No I annoyed that I thought he was just a lackluster town not scum based my earlier comment on Sandroba and what others said of him being lackluster as either alignment. | ||
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On April 29 2015 05:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Idc. The fights don't even really do much except take away like 5 health or something. Unless I seriously misread something. We don't know how much hp is on every person except for yourself. | ||
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On April 29 2015 13:16 Damdred wrote: LS don't make me doubt myself do things, give me your reads Town: Me: Because I know I am Town. rsoultin: Roleblocked and had a toneread on her being to happy although turned to a pain in the butt on you lol. Holyflare: Lead the lynch of Sandroba and was being the leader we needed but I didn't trust him earlier because he was Unholyflare in Student VIII when he fooled me :| Yamato77: He went full active mode when he came back and tried to do stuff and the fact that my scumread pushed for his lynch when Sandroba is getting lynched confirms as town in my mind. JAT: He not being a total dick like he was in XXX, Horns of Africa, and Void when he was scum and he actually doing some parrot man. Marvellosity: Started off meh and he came back decently with questioning. Xatalos: He took a shit ton of KP and the fact that he doesn't look a lot like Carol most likely means he's town. sicklucker: He bouncing off the walls and claimed medic practically. Breshke: Looked better tried to question me and and others also his thing about Sandroba doens't much like tmi like it did before the flip of Sandroba. Null: Chezinu: Claimed Gym and that's it idk if it's 3rd Party or Town role. OWS: Been pretty meh compared to Student VIII where he was town but idk if it's alignment indicative for him. Fecalfeast: Been pretty meh this game compared to his recent town games again idk if it's alignment indicative for him :| Stutters695: Not a lot of content. The Shining: Very low filter compared to his normal town game idk if it's alignment indicative for him or not but will check in the morning about that :| Jean Valjean aka Bats: Even thoguh I agreed with him on Breshke early on he been pretty meh and normally a bad player I remember him lynching himself in Student IV and it was funny as hell watching it happen :O Scum: Vivax: Filter being meh plus he not bring out his crazy conspiracy theories like he does as town and looking a tiny bit like in GoT which just finished when he was scum. Also the way the wagons went pretty much confirms him as Mafia. HTS: Why not include a Cohost in here clearly she can be scum here + Show Spoiler + <3 HTS | ||
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On April 29 2015 13:46 rsoultin wrote: >> why isn't sepu on your list? I totally forgot about him becuase his filter so short and his stuff been meh so null. | ||
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On April 29 2015 13:46 rsoultin wrote: lol >< LS <3 casing the host again are we? xP (i've been very angry this game grrrrrr) hrum hrum...those reads are not terrible actually though i'm not sure where you get jean valjean is bats xP i thought you never could read sicklucker? sicklucker basically claimed Medic Day 1 but it was bad play. Also I tihnk it was Marv or someone said Jean Valjean is Bats. | ||
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On April 29 2015 17:51 Jean Valjean wrote: I may be overreacting here so I'm hoping someone actually gives enough shits to step in and comment. This single read erodes whatever town lean I had on LS based off of Holyflare's point regarding Lightningstrike's reaction to rsoultin giving up. I'm going to break it down. I'm not Bats. Good, my case on Breshke was a strong one. No I haven't. Unless meh means something entirely different where LS comes from. I have been open to challenges about my reads, I have actively presented information and ideas to the thread, including multiple opinions about players backed up by analysis or explanation of why I think what I think. At best it's insulting that he thinks my game has been meh, at worst it simply means he has no idea and "meh" is an easy word to throw in there when talking about a no name player. No I haven't been bad. Yes we don't know if my #1 scumread backed by a strong case is mafia, but we do know that my #2 scumread, also backed by a very strong and factually correct case was mafia. I ended up voting on the correct wagon because of precisely this, I am willing to compromise and my intentions were clear through my posts all throughout day 1. Again, at best this is insulting, and at worst he's just throwing it out there because he hasn't read a single word I've said. If we ignore the fact that I am not batsnacks, even if I was what the hell would this sentence have to do with his read on me? Why does this matter? Let's pretend LS hadn't written anything about bats because obviously anything written about bats is both irrelevant to the case at hand and doesn't apply to me, being not bats. So what's left of LS's read on me? I'll post it again. Why not just straight up admit he hasn't read me instead of posting that is clearly lying on his part. Both of the statement (meh and bad) can be proven to be false by reading my filter, yet he posts them anyway. The following are the possible reasons for posting what he posted in his list: #1: He wants to antagonize me to try to get me to respond and get a read on me. #2: He wants to antagonize me because he's a massive dick #3: He hasn't read anything I've said but felt like he needed to have an opinion on me. I see no indication that #1 is true because he threw out a bunch of other "meh" reads in his list. I cannot comment on all of those simply because I don't have the in-depth analysis of everyone involved to be qualified to speak about it. Maybe LS is just an asshole of a player, but I haven't gotten that feeling from his posting so that leaves me to conclude the correct conclusion is #3. In which case he is mafia because he is making up reads. I'm voting LS. Just woke up and I really thought you were bats I knew one of the smurfs were sorry >.> Althoguht you did go into much more detail than most people and a short filter (I had to reread it after seeing your post) and now your up form null to town. | ||
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On April 29 2015 22:47 marvellosity wrote: it would be much more fun if you answered that tbh ^^ I would think Shining he fallen off hard I used to him posting more as Town than scum (He only played scum once in Student V) his content doesn't seemed anything special at least rereading his filter. Also Stutters his content was mostly 1 liners and his longer posts is him just gving his opinion on stuff. | ||
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On April 29 2015 22:55 LightningStrike wrote: I would think Shining he fallen off hard I used to him posting more as Town than scum (He only played scum once in Student V) his content doesn't seemed anything special at least after rereading his filter. Also Stutters his content was mostly 1 liners and his longer posts is him just gving his opinion on stuff. EBWOP: Added a word which I thought I added >.< | ||
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On April 30 2015 00:59 rsoultin wrote: beginning to think breshke's hf was silenced theory is looking more viable o.0 Are you suggesting a Blackmailer in here? I haven't seen a Blackmailer in a large game before but NYE Party we had a chance of having one and that was a mini | ||
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On April 30 2015 04:28 sicklucker wrote: I think this is like the 6th person in the game that Ls has callled bad. Im not sure what this means but its out of character I just having a bit fun about bats I love him and had to make fun of the fact he lynched himself :O | ||
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On April 30 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote: everyone's blue lol ^ | ||
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On April 30 2015 05:36 The Shining wrote: Lol I'm back. Wtf a dog? I don't even know what to think right now, this is hilarious. And Damn if this were a scum play by me, I'd be impressed. I'm not sure I buy this but making up a role pm seems pretty out there. I guess I tracked a dog =l Marv it's pretty obvious. I won't fight. I refuse to. If we're using fights to potentially drop scum HP, putting me in a fight will nullify that. Shining Mafia would fake a pm like that most likely esp because this is a closed setup. | ||
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On April 30 2015 05:59 Holyflare wrote: if he doesn't get modkilled can we just assume he's fake claimed a role? :D :D the double wifom is real???? If he gets mod killed we lynch Vivax until then we lynching FF. | ||
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On April 30 2015 11:20 The Shining wrote: I mean, at least were getting summaries. =l Bresh didn't choose the fight, scum supposedly did since HF wouldn't put himself to fight Marv. Bresh has a power to replace one of the fighters with someone else. And Bresh already knows this. LS, do we need to lynch you? =l No I can force people who were voting with me vote with me for a day. | ||
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On April 30 2015 11:23 The Shining wrote: Its like a classic textbook "posting something to have posted something." We already know FF is the lynch today. We already know Breshke has to replace a fighter with me to avoid town DMG and confirm my role, as well. Let's talk about things we still don't know, LS. After FF and Vivax are dealt with, who would you push for lynch? Not atm (Kinda tired prob give you a better answer in the morning). | ||
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On April 30 2015 20:48 Xatalos wrote: Votestealing roles are indeed more Mafia-oriented so that's not looking so good... It's a bit baffling why he would claim here though. I'd like to hear the "specific reason" he mentioned to me before he gets lynched or something though It might even clear him. Okay I will answer this part: The special reason why I quoted your quote earlier was I thought you claimed 3rd Party but I might of misunderstood lol. Also I know my role seems Mafiaish and I kinda dislike it myselfbut it just for once per game type of deal. | ||
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Ya Once per game I can have someone who voted with me in the previous phase vote force them to follow my vote also I gain a extra vote myself if I need it to hammer someone. Think of it like a variation of a Mayor role. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:50 marvellosity wrote: sounds very close to sand's role. which looks better for you, probably I was thinking I should claim earlier but decided againist till now since sicklucker and Breshke wants to lynch me(I not oen to deal with pressure really good if you had looked in Metal Mini) | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:51 indignant wrote: Do you have any idea why you moved on the playerlist last night? No I don't tbh with you :| | ||
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On May 01 2015 02:04 Stutters695 wrote: Sick analysis bro. Show me any actual reason you think I'm scum and I'll show you why you're wrong. You been very forgettable which isn't a good thing as town, very low filter for someone who posted mostly one liners, been trying to avoid attention from others which something scum likes to do, claimed your role have issues about claiming which seems very antitown. | ||
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On May 01 2015 03:46 Stutters695 wrote: This is so selective it's unreal. The majority of the thread is forgettable because our lynches are essentially pre-selected and there isn't much to discuss. You don't even mention how the voting d1 went which is a pretty big deal. In no way have I actively avoided attention. In fact, I would honestly say I've been more proactive this game than most. You've further failed to demonstrate how those one liners are a negative in any way. Additionally one of your few actual solid reads (indignant) claimed the same thing yet that is a point against me. None of these are solid points and it shows yet again how little you are actually reading the thread. Try again. Day 1 Yamato became confirmed town seeing how we lynched Sandroba and how Vivax tried to push people to Yamato so Vivax became confirmed Mafia from Day 1 voting. You changed from Yamato to Sandroba because you would rather lynch Vivax and knowing Sandroba flipped scum and Vivax is scum too so I can see you (if your mafia) bussingboth Sandroba and Vivax Day 1 for town cred. Now you claim a point of me and JAT yet you said it's a point for JAT and yet not for me? Your contradicting yourself. Your never revisted OWS,FF, and Chez's wasted votes at EoD which seemed to had some interest yet you never revist it? | ||
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What is the chance Yamato is scum and we were on two scum Day 1 based on how the votes went Day 1? | ||
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On May 01 2015 04:42 Damdred wrote: its highly likely that hes town because of it, but its not confirmed in the sense you are making it out to be Hmm true but still he almost certainly town based EoD 1. | ||
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On May 01 2015 05:11 Stutters695 wrote: Pure WIFOM. You could say that about literally anyone on the wagon. If I wanted to bus them I could have easily done so much more successfully than that and gotten near HFs level of town cred, especially given my large history of pushing Vivax. You implied that the issues about claiming is anti-town when one of your strongest town reads has the same restriction showing it's possible unless you think he's scum also. I looked into it slightly, realized it's super confusing and stopped once the FF deal happened since that leaves me 5+ RL days before it's relevant and new into might make it for naught. JAT as scum loves to bus his partners Day 1 and also is angrier than this game so it is possible that some roles got restrictive on their claiming but it is a strange handicap. Also you could use the time now to analyze OWS and Chez wasted votes now that we know FF's alignment. | ||
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On May 01 2015 05:14 Stutters695 wrote: Again, you've offered no actual reasoning as to why I'm scum except "well he could have been bussing." Although this interaction makes me significantly more likely to want to lynch you once we get through v/ff Did you not see my claim? | ||
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To be exact Once per game I can gain a extra vote and take 1 person who voted on the same wagon as me in the previous phase to vote with me that entire Phase. | ||
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On May 01 2015 06:07 sicklucker wrote: im voting off wagon so Ls cant take my vote screw that Even if your life depended on it? | ||
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sicklucker is known to do the weirdest things and the fact he's voting me is bad when he should be on FF. Besides we got Mafia Vivax to take care of next Day Phase. | ||
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On May 01 2015 06:23 Damdred wrote: LS you can only steal votes during the next day cycle? I can steal votes any phase whether Day or Night but they must had voted with me in the previous phase. | ||
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I was actually just asking a serious question lol. | ||
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On May 01 2015 06:32 Damdred wrote: Is it a one time use power or multiple use power 1 time use. | ||
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On May 01 2015 06:35 Damdred wrote: It's not that I don't trust you LS, but I doubt that mafia would,have overlapping powers like this. I would suggest we make LS use his power today on me, since the wagon is secured at this point. why would I use it now when the lynch is secured atm? | ||
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On May 01 2015 06:41 indignant wrote: Obviously. But I fail to see how this is necessary right now. Exactly my point. | ||
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On May 01 2015 06:43 marvellosity wrote: LS, don't listen to the bullies. Come sit with me. Ok (sits with marv and brings rsoultin along) | ||
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On May 01 2015 07:49 Xatalos wrote: I remember rayn making a grand play once and catching a scum with it though haha. It's been a while. Was it that hilarious case with a picture showing someone is scum or something like that? | ||
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On May 01 2015 07:51 Damdred wrote: Well I think I should be an easy town read atm anyway! So I'll take that. Where did LS go? I want to see his vote steal work. Do I serious need to use it now? | ||
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On May 01 2015 08:18 Damdred wrote: LS if you don't steal the vote now and quit stalling I 100% will kill you tonight I used it on you rolf. | ||
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I used it on you about a half hour ago it just the vote count haven't been updated before you voted. | ||
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On May 01 2015 09:22 sicklucker wrote: was it jat or xata that reported that 3 extra dmg. Jat right? JAT did. | ||
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On May 01 2015 09:40 Damdred wrote: I think would be pretty obvious if you used it or not just need mods to confirm my votes gone. IDK why you are making this such a thing when I'm just trying to get the thread to trust you instead of us thinking you are fibing It should be confirmed at EoN. | ||
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Why him over other people? Just curious that's all. | ||
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On May 02 2015 02:23 marvellosity wrote: the pain of watching a quiz show "what's the cube root of 216" given 3 options and all 3 of them are fucking clueless and they are yolo voting 8 like fucking idiots lol.........+ Show Spoiler + The answer is 6 :O | ||
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On May 02 2015 02:28 marvellosity wrote: see they needed LS I googled the answer :O+ Show Spoiler + It been so long I used cube roots I forgot they existed lol | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:09 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1 Vote Count sandroba (10): yamato77 (8): marvellosity, Vivax, Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Breshke (1): Holyflare (0): rsoultin (0): Sepulchre (0): LightningStrike (0): Vivax (0): marvellosity (0): Koshi (0): sicklucker (0): Xatalos (0): Not voted (1): rygart Given the current vote count, sandroba is most likely to be knocked out. The voting thread is located here. Countdown: With FecalFeast vote on bats at EoD 1 when it clear that the lynch is either Sandroba or Yamato it might clear bats because that is a horrible spot to bus a partner in a situation like that. Anyone got better thoughts about the Day 1 votes? | ||
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On May 02 2015 04:57 LightningStrike wrote: Okay guys I was looking through EoD 1 votes and found this interesting: With FecalFeast vote on bats at EoD 1 when it clear that the lynch is either Sandroba or Yamato it might clear bats because that is a horrible spot to bus a partner in a situation like that. Anyone got better thoughts about the Day 1 votes? EBWOP: BBCODE Error | ||
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On May 02 2015 05:00 indignant wrote: If the lynch is either sandro or yamato and you are wasting your vote - why not bus? Because scum would rather have their teammate alive than dead. | ||
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On May 02 2015 08:26 Holyflare wrote: you mean the vote that was super shady and said xxxxxxxxxxxx yes i saw that hidden vote Then my power worked do you think I scum? | ||
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On May 02 2015 08:30 sicklucker wrote: Yes because its a scummy god damn power tell your team to concede I not scum holy shit sicklucker you been my scummate in Guardians you know I hate playing as Mafia and I know my power seems scummy so no I not conceding because I David Eagle a Olympian in the anime. | ||
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On May 02 2015 09:29 Holyflare wrote: or mafia mafia have been pretty fucked so i don't really see why they wouldn't try and "help" town to blend in Ya Mafia been screwed since Day 1 with us lynching Sandroba. It doesn't help we gotten confirmed mafia in FF lynched Day 2 too. | ||
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On May 02 2015 12:01 Chezinu wrote: Question. What is the most deadly equipment that can be found in a gym? + Show Spoiler + I'm not counting treadmills... Weights lol. | ||
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On May 02 2015 12:57 rsoultin wrote: i've been roleblocked every night lightningstrike -_- once you figure out how to get around a roleblock, let me know We find the Mafia Roleblocker O_o | ||
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On May 02 2015 21:59 rsoultin wrote: go forth and bring me the head of the roleblocker! xP or, alternatively, give me a reason not to lynch you/force you to fight in the near future lol i'll let you decide which is more helpful I used my power already with the xxxxx vote being there so I don't mind being the fight I still got full hp. | ||
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On May 02 2015 22:03 LightningStrike wrote: I used my power already with the xxxxx vote being there so I don't mind being the fight I still got full hp. Also we use Shining to find the roleblocker since his power can be used tonight. | ||
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##Show Card I wonder how we would have 2 town roleblockers it seems op unless there is a 3rd party roleblocker. | ||
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On May 03 2015 05:32 Holyflare wrote: you question this but not there being 4 or 5 cops ^^ I saw you guess talking about Idk what to think because remember this is a closed setup so who actually knows shit lol. Ya that is a little to many cops too but 1 is a rolecop(FF) so maybe some 3rd party cops O_o | ||
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On May 03 2015 07:41 indignant wrote: Does HF generally do everything you tell him to? ^^ not really. Wanted Sep ability on me so my slot isn't a mystery. | ||
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On May 03 2015 07:59 sicklucker wrote: anything i should read in the last 50 pages? Everything. | ||
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On May 03 2015 08:38 The Shining wrote: Except Sep is also a mystery so we couldn't really trust his report either, could we? Maybe. You could resort to a HTS tactic she used on me in Titanic to read me. | ||
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On May 03 2015 23:38 Damdred wrote: LS what's going on. Where would you go after vivax and why Idk maybe Stutters he used his power really dumb using it HF when HF claimed PGO like that is the dumbest move if stutters is town since PGO's are town aligned and HF led a lynch on Mafia Day 1 like why would Unholyflare lead a bus in a close EoD vote like that on one of his partners? | ||
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On May 03 2015 23:57 Damdred wrote: Why would mafia stutters claim that he did the msg though? Wouldn't it of been better just to hide? And you still don't think we could of had two people up for lynch d1 that were mafia Very unlikely to have 2 mafias up for lynch Day 1 like that. Also Stutters was in a hot spot by others so he could tried to use that power for a excuse if he's mafia but we have to wait until he flips to figure what was going on in his head about shooting a unCCed PGO. | ||
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On May 04 2015 00:37 Damdred wrote: Why's it so unlikely to have two mafia up? Is Yamato that towny aside from the votes on hik? That doesn't answer my question, stutters was generally being town lean. Sooo what's the mafia motivation to punch hf and then claim it? It doesn't matter if you are unccd something in a closed setup or else ff could of been the pooping champ and we wouldn't of lynched him. I think Yamato is towny aside from the votes at least when he was around he had some decent questioning on others on Day 1 and Day 2. We caught FF because Shining tracked FF going to rsoultin and Xata who got hit by kp (and roleblock on rsoultin too). You right it might be odd for scum!stutters to claim to punch HF but if he was town then it was a dumb decision to punch someone who led a lynch on scum Day 1. | ||
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On May 04 2015 02:31 rsoultin wrote: rash of comments i've been getting lately about my general play. this isn't really relevant to this game anymore so i wish we'd stop talking about it my point, the only one that really mattered, was there's not a lot relevant going on here and really not even much reason to expect much relevant (since until the flip the associations are kinda pointless, too) so i'm not sure how informative people generally being lazy in this game actually is is anyone townreading lightningstrike right now, btw? Try reading me by yourself............... | ||
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On May 04 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote: it also has secret voting, just for the promoter...every night It only works once per game. | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:05 rsoultin wrote: lol >< that's my thing i doubt it's ls' entire role and with the set lynches it's an easy, safe thing to claim that he can use to try to "confirm" himself so i'm not sure how well it actually fits into this "as town ls claims" meta I don't lie about my role power in themed games simple as that. | ||
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Because I rather let myself die over Vivax because I can't be assed to play. | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:15 rsoultin wrote: ^^ you're an awesome paragon of towniness if you're town, ls ^^ we should all aspire to your greatness Sarcasm much? | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:14 Holyflare wrote: then help us solve the game rather than bitching about people scum reading you??? who do you think the scum left are? I don't really think anyone is reaching any consensus on anything tbh I already told you maybe Sep idk why he would put the damage on you over other people. | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote: ah good point nvm ls, what makes you think sep is town? I didn't say Sep is town? | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:22 Holyflare wrote: oops meant to add - what did you think of his long paragraph explaining it? not sure if you mentioned it or not I trying to find it in the filter but can't find it :| | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:28 LightningStrike wrote: I trying to find it in the filter but can't find it :| Ops wrong person I meant Stutters. | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:25 Holyflare wrote: stutters is the person that damaged me sep is the one with a cop check who did you want to fight and which one do you think is mafia? or do you think both are mafia Stutters for some reason I confused Sep with stutters. I had various reasons in my filter on why I thought Stutters is scum. | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:29 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 02 2015 10:13 Stutters695 wrote: I'll explain everything since you won't drop it. If you guys still think I'm scum, I'll use my anti town part to knock my own hp down to 9 and you guys can make me fight twice to kill me off. I have 3 parts to my role. One is classic anti-town and the other two are one shot abilities that I used both of last night. First one is I put on a tiger suit and intimidate everyone for one night. This lets me choose a target and any actions that target me get redirected to a target of my choice. Second is a one time use 8 HP punch. I had two reasons for targeting you with the punch. I punched for 2 reasons. I was under the impression you had 12+ hp and hadn't been hit based off of flips / you claiming pgo. Punching you allowed me to redirect the hit onto Sep and I thought you actually had enough firepwer to kill. More importantly, the longer the game goes on the more sketchy a PGO looks. This allowed me to at least tell if you were being truthful about PGO which will help later in the game if you don't die. Redirecting onto Sep was for two reasons also. I needed to be able to tell that my actions resulted in the kill. If I targeted Vivax, there was a decent posibility of him getting killed anyway and I wouldn't be able to tell. Additionally, I felt he has a pretty good chance of flipping scum and with how little posting he has I didn't know how much better we'd be able to read him. So I punch you for 8, you PGO me which is redirected to Sep for 9. Now I'm wondering why you don't have any opinions on who hit you earlier if they should have taken damage from your pgo. That is kind of a meh reason to use it on you honestly. The fact he redirected to Sep is kinda bad considering I think people were townreading him at that point? | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:32 LightningStrike wrote: That is kind of a meh reason to use it on you honestly. The fact he redirected to Sep is kinda bad considering I think people were townreading Sep at that point? EBWOP: Added clairity. | ||
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On April 29 2015 22:55 LightningStrike wrote: andI would think Shining he fallen off hard I used to him posting more as Town than scum (He only played scum once in Student V) his content doesn't seemed anything special at least after rereading his filter. Also Stutters his content was mostly 1 liners and his longer posts is him just gving his opinion on stuff. On May 01 2015 02:19 LightningStrike wrote: You been very forgettable which isn't a good thing as town, very low filter for someone who posted mostly one liners, been trying to avoid attention from others which something scum likes to do, claimed your role have issues about claiming which seems very antitown. | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:35 rsoultin wrote: i don't know anyone who was townreading sep off the top of my head, ls? who are you referring to? Okay I rechecked and he was mainly null/scumread by others. | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote: lol i thought ls posted that when i first read it and was like wtf o.0 but it's you, hf. the world makes sense now bueno, ls, why do you think sep is town? Honestly out of all the cops he prob 3rd party he not posted much and was low content. I never called Sep town if I recalled? I know my earlier I had him null for his lack of content. | ||
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On May 04 2015 03:47 rsoultin wrote: :/ do you believe everyone tells the truth about their roles or something? actually, i know you don't believe that because you've claimed to prove otherwise before lol >< so why do you think he's telling the truth? what reason would he fake claim? | ||
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On May 04 2015 04:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm pretty sure LS scumread Shining way before he gave his report on FF. ^ | ||
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On May 04 2015 04:46 Damdred wrote: Yeah but why answer shining when asked now who the last Scum are. Its a current Scum read I didn't say Shining? | ||
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On May 04 2015 10:03 sicklucker wrote: The last mafia is probably ls or something Stop tunneling me you done this 2 games in a row and it's pissing me off............ | ||
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On May 04 2015 10:44 Damdred wrote: Lol LS your so angry. Sicklucker tunneled me all of Day 1 in GoT then he proceeds to tunnel me again this game........................ | ||
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On May 04 2015 11:10 LightningStrike wrote: Ya Yamato had fallen off hard I think he lost his motivation because he just lost as Mafia in Noir which just finished today. EBWOP: Fixed | ||
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On May 04 2015 23:30 indignant wrote: You can't depend everything on it but it doesn't hurt to evaluate it. All flipped mafia were bad guys flavorwise as far as I understand. 1 was a match fixer for certain matches (Sandroba), 1 was a old guy who was generally a nice guy who trained boxers before retirement o.o (FF), 1 was a guy who was abused as a child and abandoned by his mother too and very bitter and was very violent causing fouls to hurt others in a match and attacking boxers sisters (Vivax) so two of them done illegal stuff in the anime but 1 of them was just a trainer o.o | ||
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On May 04 2015 23:43 LightningStrike wrote: 1 was a match fixer for certain matches (Sandroba), 1 was a old guy who was generally a nice guy who trained boxers before retirement o.o (FF), 1 was a guy who was abused as a child and abandoned by his mother too and very bitter and was very violent causing fouls to hurt others in a match and attacking boxers sisters (Vivax) so two of them done illegal stuff in the anime but 1 of them was just a trainer o.o At least that what I found from the wiki. | ||
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On May 04 2015 23:44 indignant wrote: Wasn't the trainer training a bad guy though? 1 guy yes (Bryan Hawk) | ||
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On May 04 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote: bueno ls why you no have anything interesting to say :/ What you wanted me to say? | ||
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On May 05 2015 00:25 Damdred wrote: Honestly LS you have less original thoughts this game than i'm used to, you being tunneled aside. No reads and you lack paranoia towards Yamato and several other people that i'm just not used to. Its really weird and offputting I did give you my reads early on when you asked for them did I not? We also had strong townleaders that caught scum so I felt like I can sit back a little bit more than usual (JAT and HF) and I don't recall having paranoia towards people I haven't played with but also Yamato gave a excuse Day 1 he was going to be busy Day 1 and haven't really do shit when he was around. | ||
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On May 05 2015 01:37 rsoultin wrote: yes, you have responded to others...i don't remember you doing much of anything on your own though other than making comments like "flavor is flavor" lol >< besides which, it's not like this is the first time you've been in a game with strong town leaders. you had a voice in XXX. where did it go? Only because I released that JAT was scum on tone there compared to here we had Palmar who trolled a lot in Day 1 and Marv lead the town and Rayn was a ass aka Mafia that game. | ||
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On April 29 2015 13:32 LightningStrike wrote: Town: Me: Because I know I am Town. rsoultin: Roleblocked and had a toneread on her being to happy although turned to a pain in the butt on you lol. Holyflare: Lead the lynch of Sandroba and was being the leader we needed but I didn't trust him earlier because he was Unholyflare in Student VIII when he fooled me :| Yamato77: He went full active mode when he came back and tried to do stuff and the fact that my scumread pushed for his lynch when Sandroba is getting lynched confirms as town in my mind. JAT: He not being a total dick like he was in XXX, Horns of Africa, and Void when he was scum and he actually doing some parrot man. Marvellosity: Started off meh and he came back decently with questioning. Xatalos: He took a shit ton of KP and the fact that he doesn't look a lot like Carol most likely means he's town. sicklucker: He bouncing off the walls and claimed medic practically. Breshke: Looked better tried to question me and and others also his thing about Sandroba doens't much like tmi like it did before the flip of Sandroba. Null: Chezinu: Claimed Gym and that's it idk if it's 3rd Party or Town role. OWS: Been pretty meh compared to Student VIII where he was town but idk if it's alignment indicative for him. Fecalfeast: Been pretty meh this game compared to his recent town games again idk if it's alignment indicative for him :| Stutters695: Not a lot of content. The Shining: Very low filter compared to his normal town game idk if it's alignment indicative for him or not but will check in the morning about that :| Jean Valjean aka Bats: Even thoguh I agreed with him on Breshke early on he been pretty meh and normally a bad player I remember him lynching himself in Student IV and it was funny as hell watching it happen :O Scum: Vivax: Filter being meh plus he not bring out his crazy conspiracy theories like he does as town and looking a tiny bit like in GoT which just finished when he was scum. Also the way the wagons went pretty much confirms him as Mafia. HTS: Why not include a Cohost in here clearly she can be scum here + Show Spoiler + <3 HTS Looking back at my reads the flipped mafia after Day 1 I had 1 in my scum list and 1 in null so at least my reads were somewhat decent. | ||
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On May 05 2015 02:01 rsoultin wrote: lol >< yeah if you take out the three of us the game is like 100 pages shorter and actually readable xP we should go on mute But then Mafia can hide o.o | ||
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On May 05 2015 02:11 rsoultin wrote: i know i'm not as direct as i should be sometimes because i just assume that people get it without me having to spell it out for them what are your current reads? Town: Holyflare: Lead Day 1 lynch and tried to lead town and claimed PGO. JAT: Parrot man, asking decent questions and that filter length. Xata: Took a shit ton of KP and had some decent content and he's not reall playing like he did in Carol when he was scum. sicklucker: Claimed a town role most likely although he gave a power to mafia and is tunneled on me like he was in GoT -.- OWS: Took some KP, defended me, decent content in the later pages regarding the amateur fights and why sep might of been finished off by both the fight and mafia. 3rd party: Inspector Javert: He said he can make amateur fights and his role name was a antagonist early on and later became a anti hero and also claims to have a power that can win town the game. Chezinu: Claimed Gym and is most likely a 3rd party role. Scum: Stutters: Wasted some kp on HF and redirected the damage to sep and his explanation for it was pretty meh in my opinion. Yamato: Very low filter and haven't really done much when he was around either except avoid being lynched. | ||
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On May 05 2015 02:23 LightningStrike wrote: Town: Holyflare: Lead Day 1 lynch and tried to lead town and claimed PGO. JAT: Parrot man, asking decent questions and that filter length. Xata: Took a shit ton of KP and had some decent content and he's not reall playing like he did in Carol when he was scum. sicklucker: Claimed a town role most likely although he gave a power to mafia and is tunneled on me like he was in GoT -.- OWS: Took some KP, defended me, decent content in the later pages regarding the amateur fights and why sep might of been finished off by both the fight and mafia. Damdred: Seems okay on content but also seems somewhat demotivated which he was in Student VIII where I lynched him. 3rd party: Inspector Javert: He said he can make amateur fights and his role name was a antagonist early on and later became a anti hero and also claims to have a power that can win town the game. Chezinu: Claimed Gym and is most likely a 3rd party role. Scum: Stutters: Wasted some kp on HF and redirected the damage to sep and his explanation for it was pretty meh in my opinion. Yamato: Very low filter and haven't really done much when he was around either except avoid being lynched. EBWOP: Forgot to put in Damdred. | ||
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EBWOP Again: Forgot to add in Breshke T_T | ||
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On May 05 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote: okay, talk to me about OWS...far as i'm aware the KP he took was in the fight? so how is that significant? how does defending you make him town? what is the decent content? also, javert (bats)...you just told us to ignore flavor and your read on him is all flavor? is there any other reason you think he's 3p? OWS had some good questions and responses about the fight between himself and Sep and why Mafia kill Sep when Sep most likely had like 1 hp or so left and didn't want his alignment to be known.bats claimed to have close to 30 hp and he said he can win the game for town with that much hp it most liekly 3rd party. | ||
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On May 05 2015 02:29 rsoultin wrote: lol what's the point of saying damdy is demotivated? you still think he's town, but does that mean you're not as sure? and what does me being a pain in the butt say about my alignment? xP Maybe 3rd party but you claimed roleblocked a ton so maybe town. Also he really was demotivated in Student VIII as town. | ||
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On May 05 2015 02:39 rsoultin wrote: ...i think i'll drop the damdy thing cause you don't seem to understand what i'm asking -_- what does being roleblocked (or claiming being roleblocked) have to do with me being town? couldn't i be roleblocked as 3rd party as well? or lying? lol >< surely you have some other reason for your read? You claimed it every night and we killed the mafia roleblocker. If your 3rd party it's because you been a pain to everyone this game. | ||
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Jack of all Trades: Vanilla Mafia survived: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike Guardians of the Galaxy Mafia: Vanilla Mafia Lynched Day 2: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike XXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery (18+): Town Roleblocker Killed Night 2: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=lightningstrike Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal: Town Commissioner Gordon Killed Night 2: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?user=LightningStrike Newbie Mafia LX: Vanilla Town Lynched Day 2: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474146-newbie-mini-mafia-lx?user=LightningStrike | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:28 indignant wrote: So it would be a good idea to lynch you? Is that what you are saying? Because that's what I am understanding. Why not? | ||
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On May 05 2015 05:08 LightningStrike wrote: Yamato I know you are here is there any reason why we shouldn't lynch you? EBWOP: Fixed. | ||
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On May 05 2015 05:11 The Shining wrote: Not done catching up but I do find it interesting LS asks us why we put so much weight into analyzing the flavor...then posts his wiki for us to read. Wouldn't that mean you're putting weight into your character's flavor? Like flavor is flavor. But then you post your flavor...why? Thought it didn't matter? Trying to buy town points since you see town analyzing flavor? Well I started to think about the flavor after someone said it could matter and I did some research on the mafia flips for why they would be evil and now it does makes some sense why they were evil Sandroba's flavor was a guy who match fixed on some of his matches which illegal to do. FecalFeast's trained a antagonist and Vivax's was a guy who was abused and abandoned as a child who broke rules and shit outside the ring all the time which is morally wrong plus to add more to it Vivax's was the main antagonist in the 2nd anime. | ||
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On May 05 2015 05:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote: This analysis is very mafia. Stop doing that. He's the unCCed tracker who caught Mafia FecalFeast. | ||
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On May 05 2015 07:35 Xatalos wrote: It's a bit weird that his win condition was never revealed but oh well :/ Anyone else took damage? Well if you didn't see I took 1 damage. | ||
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Ya it's weird I still puzzled on how I only took 1 damage. | ||
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On May 05 2015 10:12 Damdred wrote: Tinfoil says xata is the hidden Scum honestly. But anyway, rs had 10 dmg needing to be done so had to use 2 6kp shots on him. Dam takes 3 Shining took 6. Yamato took 2. Is that all the dmg I took 1 | ||
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On May 05 2015 11:51 Breshke wrote: I like your list damdy but id swap bats and LS. I don't really see how this couldn't be mafia LS also there is no way the only ability his role has was that vote steal thing. Breshke as much you might hate this but that was my only power. If you want to go by flavor I david Eagle and Olympian who was well respected and humble in the anime. | ||
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On May 05 2015 11:54 LightningStrike wrote: Breshke as much you might hate this but that was my only power. If you want to go by flavor I David Eagle an Olympian who was well respected and humble in the anime. EBWOP: Fixed grammar | ||
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On May 05 2015 11:57 Chezinu wrote: WHY CANT ANYONE CONFIRM MY PACKAGE DELIVERIES!!!!! I believe my package has reached Holyflare, but unfortunately choices were made. First off, I'm surprised that I'm still alive. Secondly, Holyflare made his choice. He showed his membership card to me. He is just stuck in The Gym for a day. Killing me won't release him sooner. I'll release him soon. Don'ts worries!!!!! We will make sure you stick by your word. | ||
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We expecting a more serious answer lol. | ||
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On May 05 2015 12:23 Breshke wrote: Chez did you take any damage and if so how much? mmmm thats just so absurd that that would be your only power. Like it is possible yet I don't see you complaining anywhere that your role is weak or anything. A one time vote steal on a player that had to vote with your previously it just doesn't sound right. I honestly didn't care for my role but I was happy enough to be town I just hate being tunneled by 1 person for multiple games (Sicklucker he tunneled me Day 1 in GoT and this game too) but yes it might seem absurd but that for the balance people decided and I accepted it. | ||
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On May 05 2015 12:27 Damdred wrote: Actually yeah, the most likely scenario is that vivax didn't use his rb(?). And rs gets bussed with vivax, hence why rs takes the dmg my move does. It makes sense but vivax holding rb is a stretch but possible She was roleblocked every night she claimed. | ||
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On May 05 2015 12:51 Chezinu wrote: IS ANYONE GOING TO GUESS MY ROLE? You claimed the Gym are you not? | ||
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On May 05 2015 12:54 Chezinu wrote: It is but a caricature of who I truly ares. I just a fluff up with brownness! Just reveal who you are -_- | ||
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On May 05 2015 12:58 Damdred wrote: To build on this, what you are saying doesn't really matter as, 1) Rsoultin would eat my roleblock and ate 2 damage that just so happens to be the damage I dealt instead of 3 from vivax. (if this is the case its highly unlikely that a medic would go after vivax in any case so no healing damage). 2) Night two is a bit more of a weird scenario, the only thing that makes any sense was that Rsoultin benefited from some form of healing. Its also interesting that stutters has a redirect ability. Would correlate with him either being mafia or scum having a role like that themselves. It also suggests that Yamato is very likely lazy town in this case. I see. Ty for the info about. | ||
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On May 05 2015 13:03 Damdred wrote: So what are your thoughts then ls? Well if Yamato is town Xata is likely town since he got hit by a shit ton of kp early on stutters would be my only real scumread I had listed my reasons why he was scum in my filter. Also the roleblock stuff still kinda confusing regarding rsoultin Night 2 but it's possible that there is a jailkeeper like role for town and used it on rsoultin Night 2. | ||
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On May 05 2015 13:10 Damdred wrote: .....le sigh LS if there's a jk type role why aren't there anymore rb claims It could be a limited timing for the jk idk it just a odd rb stuff going on Night 2 for rsoultin :| | ||
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On May 05 2015 13:11 Damdred wrote: And how do you know he got hit with a million kp? I mean it makes sense but how He claimed how much kp he got hit by Day 2. | ||
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On May 05 2015 22:59 indignant wrote: I hate that we are doing the work right now because today is the day all those lazy fuckers should step it up. No excuse not to anymore. So, about that votecount: It is not correct. I was the last one to vote sandro. Jean and damdred both voted before me. FF also voted yamato at some point btw. Regardless, what does it tell us? Well, it is only relevant if yamato is town. Which is cool because if yamato doesn't play today we just lynch him and know. So, let's assume yamato is town. I will also assume without doublechecking that scum knew that at this point in time or earlier the votes weren't actually 9:6 but like 7: 7 or 7:8 depending on the hidden vote/sandros other abilities. So there was hope for sandro since they couldn't know if the townies left would vote yamato or sandro. So the votes of bats, Obi and Chez still look really really bad. BUT we also know now that Sep was town. So if scum wanted to save sandro they were probably waiting and looking if that really makes sense. -> off wagon people OR people who were on sandro early. Voting sandro late was a bad idea since a switch just can't be justified that well. Not to mention that at this point all late voters are basically confirmed town except for maybe damdred. sandroba (9): yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, Breshke (2): Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): rsoultin (1): Sepulchre (0): LightningStrike (0): Vivax (0): marvellosity (0): Koshi (0): sicklucker (0): Xatalos (0): Not voted (2): rygart, Damdred That's not very enlightening because it only leads to the same suspects we had either way. Chez voted off wagon, no real effort to figure out the game. Obi voted off wagon, actively tried to push the lynch away from sandroba multiple times. 2 really fucking suspicious reads on people that are now confirmed scum (sandro, Vivax). Relatively low effort. Bats voted the wrong wagon. Personally I think the timing is not as suspicious as it looks though. Play generally more or less in line with town meta. There is the argument about how his vote for yamato makes no sense considering that Vivax and marv were on the same wagon though. LS voted the wrong wagon. Could just be sheeping though. Don't know what to make of him. So, who could be scum on the sandro wagon? Xatalos: Really doubt it. You can start worrying if he survives like 3 more nights but otherwise this guy is town or at least not scum. SL: Was awfully certain about sandroba. Could be a bus - he does that day1 all the time. His strong push for sandro is generally more or less the thing that makes him townread. Did not put in any effort during the last days. Some other minor reasons to townread him though. Like making FF heal me. Stutters: Could be scum. Since sep was town his yolo play is really really scumfavored. Low effort too. Breshke: Probably greenchecked+cancelled the fight. Very low effort though and we still had no mafia role that fucks with copchecks flip even though there are tons of cops. Damdred: Confirmed rb at this point - sadly not confirmed town. Rbs night 1 are still very weird. Hammered sandro though. And marv said he had a strong townread on him/defended him multiple times which is the only reason I have been so lenient on him. I did not understand that read at the time at all. Either marv has some sort of godread on him or he same checked him with SL/Breshke. So, I think my conclusion is that at least for today I don't want to touch Xatalos, Damdred and Sicklucker. Maybe we let chez live for another day to see what's up with HF. The rest should step it up if they do not want to be part of the fight today. I agreed with someone that we should lynch Yamato because he wasn't doing much Day 1 although he did start to look townie towards EoD. | ||
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On May 05 2015 23:12 LightningStrike wrote: I agreed with someone that we should lynch Yamato because he wasn't doing much Day 1 although he did start to look townie towards EoD. On top of that I didn't think Sandroba was scum when I had looked in his filter because people were complaining about him. | ||
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On May 05 2015 23:14 indignant wrote: I remember you saying yamatos eod/night1 was good (it really wasn't). Why did you not unvote him then though? I just answered that the post above yours. | ||
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On May 05 2015 23:20 indignant wrote: Why? What about his filter was towny enough to lynch yamato who you say had a good eod over him? And again - do you claim to not know why you moved on the playerlist? I thought Sandroba looked genuine about his posts and it seemed kinda freely posting esp about the hp and the thing about Koshi. I do know know why I got moved up and down the list tbh with you. | ||
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I meant I don't know if I have to guess mafia got someone that can move the player list or OWS didn't OWS said he got powers to move the player list around? | ||
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On May 05 2015 23:39 indignant wrote: OWS claimed to only be able to move peope up not down afaik. Why would they keep moving you around? I really don't know your guess is as good as mine. | ||
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On May 05 2015 23:44 Damdred wrote: Btw do we have a screenshot of where players were before hand? I was player slot 3 before the changes this morning. | ||
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On May 06 2015 01:03 LightningStrike wrote: I willing to get lynched if it means moving the game forward because right now I clueless on bats alignment but I truely think that stutters is scum. Like he could be 3rd party or just playing a bad town game and I know done this type of shit on me in Horns at End Game where he just votes me and me, marv, and breshke voted the last scum and forced them to concede (rsoultin). | ||
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On May 06 2015 01:10 Inspector Javert wrote: Mafia. I'm suddenly extremely confident. He rehashes what others say, does play by play commentary, offers relatively little original insight on meta. All scum LS. And he just martyred after a random vote. Town LS wouldn't just completely collapse under so little pressure. See his reaction to SL too. You totally misrepresenting me I gave you all my games that not in the database you should know I almost completely gave up horns until we saw JAT flip scum there and in Titanic I gave up until Slam cop checked the guy who I made a case on being scum................................ | ||
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No this is what I might be http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester | ||
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No I was trying to see reactions because it been forever since I seen jesters o.o | ||
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On May 06 2015 01:23 indignant wrote: Then I don't get what kind of reaction you would expect. Wanted to see if anyone remembers what jesters do lol. | ||
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On May 06 2015 02:30 indignant wrote: That's the last thing town needs if you are town. Two people tunneling me right now what the hell am I suppose to do? | ||
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On May 06 2015 02:31 LightningStrike wrote: Two people tunneling me right now what the hell am I suppose to do? Like they wont ever consider me town until I get flipped. | ||
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On May 06 2015 02:35 indignant wrote: How do you know those 2 people aren't mafia? Since when are 2 votes enough to kill someone? They both could be 3rd party for all we know. Put Bats and Sicklucker up for fight. | ||
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On May 06 2015 02:35 indignant wrote: If you are town keep playing and find mafia. Ragequitting does not help us in the slightest. I already found my mafia and voting them. | ||
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On May 06 2015 02:38 LightningStrike wrote: I already found my mafia and voting him. Stutters if you need to have a name. | ||
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On May 06 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote: I will go down to 8 HP if you do that JAT. | ||
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On May 06 2015 06:01 indignant wrote: Claiming this is not very clever. But why is this a problem for you anyways? I mean a while ago you wanted us to lynch you? If mafia puts KP on you - great. Your role is useless anyways. I was just telling you how much HP I will have left if I survive the lynch and been put to a fight. | ||
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On May 06 2015 06:05 LightningStrike wrote: Also Bats and Damdred fyi your meta read on me is wrong you should take a look at my meta as both alignments I been lazy as town before being on the sidelines (Student VIII and Campus) and the fact you prob didn't check my scum meta esp because I had rolled scum twice I had last played with you (JOAT and Guardians) if you need stuff from my recent scum meta and compared to my latest town games I gave you all the resources you guys can use for my meta and willing put it in your hands before the final judgement. To add on to this I am Town. TOWN so therefore you are wrong about me being 3rd Party or Scum. | ||
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On May 06 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote: To add on to this I am Town. TOWN so therefore you are wrong about me being 3rd Party or Scum. Also if you still think I scum bring the evidence or your opinion on me is invalid. | ||
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On May 06 2015 06:15 Damdred wrote: LS that argument is so bad... I've already given an argument, I know your meta better than almost anyone in this game. Even games where you were "lazy" as town makes this look worse. You pressured people had ongoing thoughts and Scum reads etc., you were super lazy in joat and guardians and it looks closer to here thananything | ||
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Then me and bats then. | ||
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On May 06 2015 06:19 Damdred wrote: It's not like you are really up on the block honestly you could be spending your time better. I found my scum yet no one been listening to me I feel like I hitting a brick wall about 9001 times. | ||
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Obi townier than bats in my mind. | ||
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On May 06 2015 06:21 Damdred wrote: And since I called you Scum in both of your last Scum games I doubt my meta read is that off Oh it is that off this game with Chupazi failing you. | ||
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He more calculated as scum than town in terms of claiming and shit. | ||
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On May 06 2015 06:54 indignant wrote: No, I want to pick people who I think could be mafia. Stutters could be but I don't think it's as likely as the other 2. Fine put Stutters with me that will at least will make me happy. | ||
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I think Stutters is more scum than him simple as that. | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:16 indignant wrote: Everyone is willing to listen to you. And I don't get why being in the fight means we should lynch you. sicklucker isn't willing to, batsnacks isn't willing to, Damdred isn't willing to. HF townread me before getting taken to the gym soi what the point of me playing if the majority of the active people here are brickwalls for me? | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:24 indignant wrote: Well, you could try to convince them if you think they are town. Instead of this pointless martyring. I tried to earlier but they refuse to listen. | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:26 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure how i'm not listening to LS? I'm telling him to use his energy in a more productive way and i'm telling him why i'm not town reading him. Hes just refusing to be useful and martyring everywhere. I tried telling you guys who my mafia is but you guys refuse to look at my reasons. | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:26 Damdred wrote: IDK why LS is even scum reading stutters or what not anymore I don't think its even been talked about this phase? It's in my filter. He used his ability on the towniest of all town(HF) with a shitty explanation plus he been very unproductive the last 144 hours and his content is pretty meh. | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:29 Damdred wrote: This is the first day we've even had an active lynch, and I haven't seen you post anything about why X is mafia only complaining that people are scum reading you for being lazy etc. I been telling you guys that my reasons were in my filter................................... I just tldr'd it. | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:30 Damdred wrote: 1) I stil don't understand why mafia would do that and CLAIM doing that to HF. 2) People are wrong all the time. 3) Almost everyoens content is meh over the past 2 cycles though. Gotta give me a bit more explanation His content been meh the entire game, claimed to hit HF it looks so dumb to do as Mafia but he's a new player I would expect him to do it. | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote: And honestly his read progression and vote on sandroba looks REALLY natural d1. So gotta talk me through everything in depth His read on me was Omgus while my read on him wasn't. He was coached in Student VII which only people with 4 or less games played can get that why I consider him a new player. His shooting thing on HF was a terrible idea since everyone including scum was townreading him and he was the leader I can see a rookie mafia make that mistake. Lurked the last 144 hours and not interacting with others as much as town should. | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:47 Inspector Javert wrote: LS if my vote is bothering you that much all you have to do is convince me yamato is the better lynch. It's hardly the monumental task you're making it out to be. I willing to policy Yamato because he haven't produced anything this Day Phase. | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:49 Inspector Javert wrote: What do you think about the people who said d1 that yamato's scum meta is promising activity and then not delivering? It might actually apply here. Anyways I still checking out Stutters meta and will report back as soon I 3 of his latest town games and all 3 of his games as scum. | ||
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On July 03 2013 00:18 Stutters695 wrote: Any red emphasis is mine Well WoS's most recent post has me thinking he might be scum. I'm literally WoS' only scum-read this game. He jumps on my wagon and sheeps Vivax and Rayn (with his only unique reasoning being that I didn't feel like translating his worthless posts in French because I was phone posting). He twice emphasizes his doubt of my wagon by virtue of four people already being on it. BUT WAIT He literally hasn't taken a stance on anything to this point and waffled on me because the wagon was too easy when thats literally the exact same thing he said my most recent post was scummy for. After that he does his summary thing which shows no real analysis just worthless summaries of what we already know. Worth noting though is he attacks Lazer for saying Vivax is scummy but he still wanted to lynch JJD because Vivax is active and although his tunneling felt scummy it isn't a scumtell of itself. Maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but half his points against Lazer are for using ellipses? Seriously. Also note despite saying he'd lynch him at this point, he doesn't mention Lazer again in his filter. He follows that up with indecisive posts on Vivax and Rayn. Finally his players he wants to look into post: Marv - "I dont know so I'm going to look at him" very helpful Fuba - Says the same thing I and multiple others have said. Notice that, once again, there is no conclusion only observations. Me- Hey a definitive stance! On me again . Here's why I think this is scummy. First, obviously how non-committal he is while also using that as his sole point against me. Second: Blatant misrepresentation. I still maintain my case on Fuba is pretty damn strong, he still is doing exactly what I laid out. That one is subjective though, whatever. "Never gives the aforementioned reads": This one bugs me. He completely ignores that I agreed with Vivax's case AND provided additional information that helped to secure his lynch pre-claim. Obviously it was wrong and forced a claim which sucks, but that is taking a stance. Notice how he also tries to pin promised reads on me when I said "I will read up on them later." Blatant misrepresentation to strengthen his case. The last part of his post is taken completely out of the context of the thread to make me look worse. I was on the chopping block at that point and would have been mislynched through towns passivity. Vivax had been expressing his disagreement with my Fuba case for hours and we had town reads on each other. I needed to work with someone to find a good lynch to both stop my mislynch and maximize the odds of hitting scum. but on the other hand after looking through his town games he post less as town than scum and had similar process in his reads to this game too esp his latest game when he tunneled someone so in conclusion: He TOTES TOWN Yamato on the other hand needs to step up and so far failed to deliver his promise. ##Unvote ##Vote: Yamato77 | ||
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On May 06 2015 08:19 Damdred wrote: Actually I think we have to lynch Yamato and stutters No we don't lynch Stutters we lynch Yamato. Stutters has been known as a infrequent poster regardless of his alignment from my research into his meta. | ||
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On May 06 2015 08:22 Damdred wrote: lol you don't even ask me why I can argue with you about Stutters but he's totes town by meta. | ||
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On May 06 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote: N1: HF takes 6 damage (factional kp assumption) FF is tracked to Xatalos and Rsoultin (rolecheck possible on Rsoultin) Rsoultin is hit for 2 dmg and Roleblocked (Matches up to my ability and not Vivax roleblock) Xatalos is hit for 12 Dmg Indignant is hit for 12 dmg Marv is hit for 7 Dmg Vivax claims 2 dmg and roleblocked (Damdred claims this block) D2: Jat is healed by FF for an unspecified amount FF is flipped JAT takes 3 random dmg at eod N2: Rsoultin Is Roleblocked and takes 0 dmg (?) Sepu takes 2 dmg and Roleblock (Damdred claims dmg) Stutters redirects dmg from HF PGO to Sepu for 6-7 (?) HF claims dmg is missing. HF takes 8 dmg (Stutters claims) JAT receives 6 Dmg Breshke receives dmg Shining receives 6 dmg Marv receives 12 dmg (?) (Marv Dies) D3: Vivax is flipped roleblocker Sepu faints mysteriously Shining takes 3 dmg randomly eod N3: HF disappears from game Damdred takes 3 dmg Rsoultin takes at least 10 dmg (?) Shining takes at least 3 dmg Lightninstrike takes 1 dmg Yamato Roleblocked and takes 2 dmg Actually I take back what I said about stutters st this point I just got my spreadsheet and I think it partially clears him. I corrected it and put in the correct Marv dmg. I want to point something out though. N1- 5 Mafia Faction don N2- 4 Mafia Faction done N3- 2 Mafia Faction accounted for The pattern is off. We are either missing a mafia KP or we are missing a third party action. We should lynch Yamato today Which one you think and why? | ||
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On May 06 2015 08:36 Damdred wrote: I'm sort of assuming basically that mafia needed to blow two kp to take out Rsoultin, and could use a small ability on shining. And we have an anti-town kp going somewhere. Its an assumption and jat will probably rail me for it XD Who knows lol. | ||
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On May 06 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote: Well I mean it sort of makes sense with all the small damage that went out last night that that's what happened. True. But the puzzling part is why I only took 1 damage instead of more. | ||
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On May 06 2015 13:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote: It's a 300 page long game. There's plenty of activity. It stalled out before I posted....... | ||
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On May 06 2015 14:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Shining claimed a track/check on FF. That might warrant the change in read. ^ | ||
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On May 06 2015 14:09 Breshke wrote: It also just rubs me the wrong way that LS claimed 0 damage then 10 mins later he claims 1 damage. My damage pm was delayed tbh with you I was expecting it earlier :| | ||
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On May 07 2015 01:28 sicklucker wrote: Another 7-1 vote. Looks like ill procrastinate into rereading and catching up torm since hes getting killed regardless and im not rly motivated atm. Is Lightning strike looking good as town lately? because I really wanted to kill him I taking 6 KP at EoD. | ||
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On May 07 2015 01:44 sicklucker wrote: oh ok so your basically dead. Hurray! Asshole | ||
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On May 07 2015 02:22 Stutters695 wrote: I still don't get why you completely 180d on me now that you're pretty close to dying. I decided to look into your meta after Damdred suggested I should. Your Totes Town but please be more active | ||
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On May 07 2015 05:11 Xatalos wrote: I hope it doesn't mean a new win condition or something >.> ^ | ||
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On May 07 2015 06:34 Inspector Javert wrote: idk why throw your vote away on a lynch that will happen today no matter what? Because Shannies might happen and I want my vote to be in my mind on scum/3rd Party. | ||
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On May 07 2015 06:45 Chezinu wrote: I'll give SL a towel so he can give up. Wait so Sickluckers alignment is the same as yours? | ||
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On May 07 2015 06:52 Chezinu wrote: What if I told you that I was a trainer and that I'm training HF (why he disappeared). Is that more believable? Okay...... | ||
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On May 07 2015 07:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay so I should have 8 HP left once the pm comes. HF reads atm? Correction: For some reason I got 9 HP instead of 8 I think someone or something took away 1 damage from me and I confused because I already used all my powers >.< | ||
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On May 07 2015 07:07 indignant wrote: This flip looks good for damdred I guess. Seriously wtf was scum doing day1. Idk this is confusing on what the hell the scum team was doing this entire game. I also now I feel bad I called Yamato confirmed town after Day 1 till recently. | ||
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On May 07 2015 07:28 Xatalos wrote: Lol yeah the scumteam is pretty #rekt this game. So who wants to organize the fight? We should have HF or JAT Organize the Fight. | ||
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On May 07 2015 07:54 sicklucker wrote: Whoever is aoki should just hard claim so we never lynch you. Ls obi etc im looking at you. If you are my best friend aoki I will defend you night and day Sorry I David Eagle a Olympian Fighter :O | ||
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On May 07 2015 10:00 Holyflare wrote: I support this decision fully. Also, LS, where did he move after he meta'd stutters who was 100% mafia to 100% town? Who is he scum reading now? If I have to take stab from looking at my reads earlier at Day 3ish Bats would be my scum naturally after investgating Stutters meta since HF did return I willing to put Chez towards the town side of the spectrum with bats not being able to his fights anymore we were missing 3 kp on people so obv it on him and his message could be a scum role thing over anything else too since coulda used it to fake shit up. Also he wasted his vote last Day Phase when I wasn't even close to being lynched. | ||
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On May 07 2015 10:09 Damdred wrote: He instantly moved to Yamato right before I voted him Were you refering to me answering HF's question? | ||
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On May 07 2015 10:15 Holyflare wrote: that message could have totally been made to say things like "batsnacks is an innocent child" or some nefarious shit, also LS, you're saying all the 3 dmg's have been from bats and not obi? JAT's points make a tonne of sense and obi has been moving into some pretty damn shifty places Who knows on the KP someone mention how when the Amateur fights stopped no one taken 3 KP also the way OWS moved Shining bellow him and Shining died seemed suspect I think we might have both them as last mafia and or 3rd party in both OWS and Bats with Bats being scummier in my mind. | ||
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On May 07 2015 10:17 Holyflare wrote: also i have no idea what chezinu is but he used his power in kind of a cop checky way so i kinda like him for now, even if all of his powers seem pretty scummy? anonymous mason, remove someone from thread, kill a person after giving them kp, probably 3p but whatever he is at least he isn't harming someone Are you going to die from Chez's thing? | ||
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On May 07 2015 10:23 Holyflare wrote: i don't know anything other than i wasn't allowed to post for the day phase Okay. Anyways did you read all of the last Day Phase? | ||
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On May 07 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote: So yea, the pie list is decently strong... I think I might die soonisg just not tonight Honestly I have that feeling too about myself. | ||
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On May 07 2015 11:23 sicklucker wrote: Ls are you my aoki san Nope as I said I David Eagle a Olympian Boxer. | ||
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On May 07 2015 11:57 Damdred wrote: Ls why would scum kill you tonight? Because I a medic dodge obviously. | ||
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On May 07 2015 12:10 Breshke wrote: What medic?? Medic powers I mean... | ||
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On May 07 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote: What medic powers?? Hypothetical I would think we have a medic power or two other than Sicklucker. | ||
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On May 07 2015 21:03 indignant wrote: How on earth is bats still scummier than obi to you? Granted I have a small reason to suspect Obi might be 3p instead of scum but we still lynch him tomorrow. I know Obi good enough he can be bad as town and bats sometimes be god awful as town but not to this extreme. Bats also wasted his vote on a lynch that wouldn't happen last day phase (me)and looks even worse than OWS to that regard since we shouldn't waste our votes this late into the game. | ||
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On May 07 2015 22:43 indignant wrote: That does not make him look scummy at all. How was bats more awful than Obi if they are both town? Not to mention that I do not expect Obi to be awful as town. (Insert manatory parrot of Damdred here) | ||
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On May 07 2015 23:00 Holyflare wrote: What's up! The sky. | ||
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On May 07 2015 23:03 Holyflare wrote: Would probably lynch obi/ls :p (sorry ls) your info on stutters looks bit crazy/eager to switch around too fast to consensus and looks like tmi and you saying crazy stuff + obi dmg thing makes total sense and he isn't even replying to it I willing to lynch Obi I already said my reasons why he could be scum/3rd Party. I was just tunneled on him because he looked scummy until I looked his meta by suggestion by both Damdred and Stutters. Also show the posts where it look like tmi and I will explain my thought process on it. | ||
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On May 07 2015 23:23 Inspector Javert wrote: Scummy scummy LS I have never had such a strong read on you until now. What can I do to convince you I not scum? | ||
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Meanie I don't want to die unless I fight scum myself but I wont die in a fight until Day 6 assuming I don't get hit by KP other than fights. I have 9 hp left from my original 15. | ||
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On May 07 2015 23:38 Holyflare wrote: These ones, they look super weird, especially as all you're now using is posting activity to decide his alignment. The entire mafia team has been afk so obviously stutters inactivity could be explained by that but you skip right past it and say he's totes town for it instead. It's kind of a superficial read that looks like you wanted to blend into what people thought. Stutters had been a infreguent poster as both alignments and post less as town from my research of his past games as both alignments. I only looked into his past because of both Damdred and Stutters said to look his past so I did. I know the mafia team been afk but Stutters is more active as scum than town simple as that. I challenge you to look his past games as both alignments if you don't believe me | ||
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On May 08 2015 00:05 Holyflare wrote: that's irrelevant since this game is completely different and the mafia team just did not play at all He prob was sick of me tunneling him hard and lost motivation to play because of that, His content seems to more aligned to his town type of content. | ||
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On May 08 2015 00:29 Inspector Javert wrote: Meanie??? You said I was god awful you're the meanie Meanie! We both are meanies lol. But normally you do the dumbest stuff like lynching yourself >.< | ||
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On May 08 2015 00:39 Inspector Javert wrote: that was hilarious I have no regrets At least I didn't get lynched d1 as the cop. c; That was Blazinghands fault for giving me the detective pm and also the towns fault for having terrible mafia vocab >.< | ||
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On May 08 2015 00:49 Inspector Javert wrote: I defended you that game and called people who voted you dumb... Which I rarely do. See I'm not that mean. You voted me early though claiming I fell to your trap | ||
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On May 08 2015 00:56 Inspector Javert wrote: You gotta watch out for bat traps less you get snared. We almost lynched scum Day 1 there by Shannies :O | ||
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On May 08 2015 00:55 Damdred wrote: Depending on night actions could always go for a tripple lynch... Honestly I don't get hit by kp then it's a double lynch most likely. | ||
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On May 08 2015 01:16 Inspector Javert wrote: Woo teacher discretionary day ? | ||
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On May 08 2015 02:28 Xatalos wrote: Hm... Maybe. I remember doing a similar thing as scum once where I tried so hard to justify a townread that I just looked at one of his past games and made an (actually incorrect) conclusion from his filter. Nobody bothered to check if what I was saying was correct and it somehow made me look better all the same. I told Holyflare he can check it himself if he doesn't believe me. | ||
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On May 08 2015 02:54 Holyflare wrote: This has nothing to do with whether it's wrong or right? Well, specifically it would be to do with whether it was right. It's that I see no difference between an entire mafia team not playing and him thus being low activity and comparing it to another game where he was low activity and making an uninformed 100% town conclusion from it. He did have a inactive Day 1 got lynched for it I know that. If you compared his town games to scum games he generally post 1 more page as scum than town so ya it kinda worrying but I have no doubts he's town. If he's scum it not because of his inactivity it would be for content which I found very similar to his town games from my own research. | ||
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On May 08 2015 03:05 Holyflare wrote: can you not see how this is a ridiculously redundant sentence? explain to me how the content differs, in depth please As scum he actually busses his teammates extremely hard and his cases are terrible on town players being scum. As town he analyze much better on people's alignments and defends himself harder as town than scum. | ||
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On May 08 2015 03:16 LightningStrike wrote: As scum he actually busses his teammates extremely hard and his cases are terrible on town players being scum. As town he analyze much better on people's alignments and defends himself harder as town than scum. Sure he did do a dumb move punching HF but he genuinly thought that sep was scum and used his ability to redirect the damage to sep causing sep to make major damage and he was wrong on sep's alignment which is forgivable because alot people thought sep was scum/3rd party. | ||
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On May 08 2015 03:05 Stutters695 wrote: Sorry guys, finals week made this a bitch. Didn't expect it to be this active, it's hard as fuck just keeping up. If you guys want to lynch me I'd totally understand. LS's meta read is correct, however that's not a genuine flip. Send like he just skimmed it and decided it's cool. I only looked through your 3 scum games and your most recent town games like 5 of them including the one you got mod killed where you only had 1 page filter. | ||
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On May 08 2015 03:20 LightningStrike wrote: I only looked through your 3 scum games and your most recent town games like 5 of them including the one you got mod killed where you only had 1 page filter. And made my conclusion from comparing and contrasting your town of late and your scum games you had played. | ||
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On May 08 2015 07:42 sicklucker wrote: thats why i think the last mafia is just stutters that and a few other reasons i cant talk about because it may get me mod kiled Why would it get you mod killed? | ||
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On May 08 2015 08:18 Breshke wrote: who do you want to kill other than obi then LS? I sounding like a Broken recording but bats he looked the scummiest out of all the others outside of obi and assuming Chez is 3rd Party HF Town JAT Town Me Town and Xata Town. Bats throwing his vote away and also Mafia most likely got a Mafia Fighter Promoter type role and Bats is the only one who claimed that type of role. I also had listed my reasons here in this quote too: On May 07 2015 10:13 LightningStrike wrote: If I have to take stab from looking at my reads earlier at Day 3ish Bats would be my scum naturally after investgating Stutters meta since HF did return I willing to put Chez towards the town side of the spectrum with bats not being able to his fights anymore we were missing 3 kp on people so obv it on him and his message could be a scum role thing over anything else too since coulda used it to fake shit up. Also he wasted his vote last Day Phase when I wasn't even close to being lynched. | ||
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On May 08 2015 08:24 Damdred wrote: Nvm I think LS claimed 9 yesterday yesterday I had 9 now I at 8 and I really want to play now that we lynched scum 4 times in a row I don't want to die I really want to live now as I finally gotten motivation to play. | ||
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On May 08 2015 08:32 Breshke wrote: Obi claimed to be able to make a fight aswell though and it isn't really throwing your vote away when the lynch is set. Damdred complained to me in Student VIII when I put my vote on who I thought was scum because I didn't like either wagon on Day 1 and took it to heart. Also we prob should lynch either Obi or bats today the question is which one first. | ||
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On May 08 2015 10:54 Damdred wrote: Whats your hidden power ls! I got none I think you could be on crack if you think I got some | ||
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On May 08 2015 23:10 Inspector Javert wrote: If obi, LS, and stutters somehow all aren't mafia it's probably Damdred. I not mafia and I already said why stutters is town and obi could be scum or 3rd party so therefore you should poe yourself to Damdred. | ||
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On May 09 2015 00:43 Chezinu wrote: 4000! In honor of the 4000, I will be honest and tell you my role. I am not the bank. I am not the director of communication. I am not... I am not... I am sadly not the gym... I know, I know... How can someone so power and so strong not be a Gym? How can you not take damage at night neither from mafia or a self claimed PGO? Well... I am a trainer. But more than a trainer, because the person controlling this character is Chezinu. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the gym was but a caricature of who I really am. It is true that I can invent things. Yes, I just wanted to troll everyone. We were winning, so not trying to rid the impression that I was third party seemed optimal for my survival. As 3P, who would dare attack me? Plus, I'm Chezinu! Why would you kill me? I have to be honest... as some of you have noticed, I haven't really been reading the thread or scumhunting for that matter. There was never a need since a mafia was getting lynched. I had RL tasks that needed to be accomplished. Now, there is someone who guessed my alignment recently. + Show Spoiler + On May 08 2015 10:41 sicklucker wrote: chez is my roles best friend in the manga.Just like in this game! We are always going to be town with are other best friend already flipping mafia to stop mass claiming That is right guys, Chezinu is town. The only one who seems confident in this right now is sicklucker... Now, I must tell you what I did last night. As I mentioned in the thread prior to the night - as I have always crumbed before the nights - I gave sicklucker a towel, so that he can throw in the towel and give up. However, I did not give him a bucket of water. As the night before, I gave Holyflare a choice between 3 items. It is true. He chose the troll item and vanished for a cycle. When he returned, He came back black. Did I recruit him as third party? Or am I town with a imagination that dreams to be third party and trolls likewise? What is more likely? Remember, I am Chezinu. The coming back Black is WIFOM. | ||
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On May 09 2015 03:59 Damdred wrote: Anything else is silly this is totally about doing the optimal play we have at least 3 people who have been relatively scummy in some way and we have stutters who is verge with weird moves and low activity. either way we shouldn't waste the fight mechanic giving us free lynched to help focus us. If none of the three flip scum or 3p antitown, its not that horrible a scenerio and it lets us focus on other people the next day I already told you he's totes town read his last game in Student VII when he was town and tell me how he's scum here............ | ||
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On May 09 2015 05:42 Stutters695 wrote: So I take it you're going to flip scum so you're trying to buddy me to set up a mislynch? I going to flip town no worries there | ||
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On May 09 2015 07:36 Stutters695 wrote: I don't believe it will happen, but if that's the case props for nailing my meta perfectly. Wouldn't want to be scum against you lol. Oh I already caught JAT (Our Promoter) as scum twice in two separate games on meta so ya you don't want to be scum vs me lol. | ||
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On May 09 2015 07:43 Damdred wrote: I Hobestly don't know if LS is Scum. Meh, LS can you explain your meta read on stutters for me? And why did you take so long to check all his games It took me so long because I thought he a new guy because he signed up for Student VII and that was his first game ever so my fault for not checking the database earlier. He more nitpicky and likes to bus as scum and also when he's scum he makes very terrible cases on townies being scum. As town he also Analyze stuff and try to get a deeper look into stuff and more willing to take risks compared to his scum games. | ||
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On May 09 2015 08:08 Damdred wrote: Can you show me some things to substantiate your town read ls? He been pretty genuine esp about his reasoning for using stuff on HF and Sep because he had a scum read on Sep although I disagreed with him on using his ability on HF but he also wanted to confirm HF as a PGO. When he's scum he goes after his scummates (Bussing) in much more detail on why he thinks they scum he didn't really say stuff about Yamato, Vivax, and Sandroba on Day 1 when we lynched Sandroba, Vivax, and FF. He also analyzed why Sandroba used his ability when he did in this post: On April 30 2015 01:59 Stutters695 wrote: Sorry, I just saw this. Yes, I can see that, but what about with Sand's power? 7-4 in favor of Sand, but Sand hadn't made his play yet and it is a pretty safe assumption the other scummers knew his power. So the practical count there is 6-6, do you think Shining puts Sand further in the lead there when a vote on Yamato would have been just as easy to justify for him? Did you take this into account when you said that? It doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'd miss. I think he totes town from reading his filter and checking out his past town games and scum games saw it was more aligned with his town games. | ||
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On May 09 2015 09:04 Damdred wrote: I'm torn on LS, he sounds really sincere at this point. And his read is believable and sounds town. LS tell me who,Scum is Well I think there is scum between Bats and Obi. Obi suspicious moving around the list and his lack of answer for it is kinda scummy. Bats after he said he can't put up fights anymore we were missing 3 KP I think it's to condiental that Bats losing his fights ability and us losing 3 kp at the same time. | ||
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On May 09 2015 20:22 Breshke wrote: Like HF if the game doesnt end after obi and LS die who would you want to lynch? I don't think it will end if Obi is 3rd Party assuming we got at least 1 more 3rd Party since I not scum. | ||
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On May 09 2015 21:15 Breshke wrote: yeah its out there but if there is still mafia left after obi and LS die im saying i most likely think it is stutters. I agree on bats and idk wtf to think about chez I don't really see him being mafia though 3p if anything he is having too much fun for him to be on a team that is seemingly getting rolled. That's why i'll be voting for stutters but I'm really not fussed if we lynch obi instead. I'll probably end up voting for whoever JAT votes for because he wouldn't be able to change his vote and probs safer to all be on the same wagon. Stutters is totes town by meta read my thing on why on meta Stutters is totes town. | ||
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On May 09 2015 23:36 Xatalos wrote: So is it reasonable to assume that we can kill OWS just with the fights? I'd somewhat prefer to just lynch him, since there's no way to be sure about him dying without a lynch. He seems the most likely scum IMO and it'd be nice to reduce KP or even potentially win the game with that. If he doesn't die even with Breshke's power simply lynch him on pure policy. | ||
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Stutters: Totes town by meta and here are the posts I made about his meta: On May 09 2015 07:55 LightningStrike wrote: It took me so long because I thought he a new guy because he signed up for Student VII and that was his first game ever so my fault for not checking the database earlier. He more nitpicky and likes to bus as scum and also when he's scum he makes very terrible cases on townies being scum. As town he also Analyze stuff and try to get a deeper look into stuff and more willing to take risks compared to his scum games. On May 09 2015 08:48 LightningStrike wrote: He been pretty genuine esp about his reasoning for using stuff on HF and Sep because he had a scum read on Sep although I disagreed with him on using his ability on HF but he also wanted to confirm HF as a PGO. When he's scum he goes after his scummates (Bussing) in much more detail on why he thinks they scum he didn't really say stuff about Yamato, Vivax, and Sandroba on Day 1 when we lynched Sandroba, Vivax, and FF. He also analyzed why Sandroba used his ability when he did in this post: I think he totes town from reading his filter and checking out his past town games and scum games saw it was more aligned with his town games. HF: Lead scum lynch Day 1 has one of the highest filters in the game and been the leader when he was here he's town. JAT: Very large filter had good questions and got discussion going all game long and not very angry he's town. Damdred: He's had okay content and decent questioning and was questioning his read on me he could be town or 3rd Party. Sicklucker: Had different powers for healing and increase damage herbs and claimed it Day 1 town. Xata: Took a ton of kp Night 1 had decent content and not playing his scum meta in Carol he's town for now. Breshke: If he uses his power on me he claiming 3rd Party his role seems to be more 3rd Party than Town or scum. Chez: Claimed sickluckers best friend in the anime and used his power to get HF to see his mom but he's a confusing poster lol. Bats and Obi: One of them is scum and the other 3rd Party I hate Obi's explanation to why he put Shining don the list with a tracker role and Bats stuff seemed to be meh all game log. | ||
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