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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 11 2015 11:57 GMT
#6835
Okay he deffs had 9 so there was a different ability used on him I didn't fully kill him
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 11 2015 12:01 GMT
#6836
Did anyone take 3 random damage EOD that plus my extra damage would have been enough to kill him so that is most likely what happend
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 01:20 GMT
#7008
I'm town

HF what was wrong with my reads list in the night yeah it was mainly mechanics shit but do you disagree with any of the conclusions that I reached? Furthermore on top of that I'm fairly sure xata made a post after that which was basically reached all the same conclusions I did yet you don't have a problem with that.

The thing you quoted about me asking you and Marc if you'd die from the fight was because shining hadn't said the thing about being able to cancel the fight and I was trying to choose which one of you two to SAVE from the fight.

Its fairly ridiculous that you guys believe that I changed the fight then changed it back for town cred. First of all of this was true and I'm mafia that means ONLY MAFIA has the ability to mess with the fights. So if I hadn't done that play mafia could basically choose the first two fights without having to announce their ability to the thread because as you saw my action was silent and as was the supposed mafia action. This makes the fight mechanic fucking stupid.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 03:23 GMT
#7012
On May 12 2015 10:34 Holyflare wrote:
Well you have the majority of people as 3P and none of them are based on possible reads you could have got from playing the game really? It's very superficial so of course I disagree with them.

SL was pretty towny regardless of his power, he pushed people onto mafia day 1 and was actually doing towny things throughout the game. He also got people healed and gave you stuff and whatever but reads could be so much more in depth. It looks like you poe'd down 2 easy lynches when one of them could very well be a mislynch for silly reasons and left all of your options open for a later mislynch by calling everyone and their mothers 3p.

That's not even including the stutters stuff where you made an informed decision on his alignment while professing you hadn't even read the interactions that night at all to determine whether what you said was true or not.

Also the role hunting you did on me all n1 and hp hunting and stuff. What benefit does saying out loud in the thread that if i claimed pgo my power wouldn't work? That only serves to fit into the game and point out bad things you shouldn't be pointing out to blend in.

Since you are saying that mafia does in fact have a role switcher are you implying it's bats and he's lying about being a town 3p then?


Because i dont understand why any of those number of people couldnt have been third party. I had damdred and SL as not third party, SL originally wasnt but i revised that later.

Stutters was outside the POE so i was happy lynching him, he didnt seem intrested in playing the game which would fit considering how his team had played

My ability could only swap one of you or marv out of the fight at the time i did not know i could cancel the fight using shining. Therefore i was trying to work out who most needed to be swapped out of the fight you or marv.

Role switcher? do you mean fight switcher? It is very likely but it could also be that the fight on D2 was actually chosen by you without any outside interferance. Maybe your role has an advantage in fights and you wanted to kill marv speculation is useless though.

This is my poblem though HF. If you are saying you didn't switch that fight YOU KNOW mafia did. No mafia has flipped with that ability. So your saying I have the ability to switch the fight when it first gets announced AND the ability to swap it 12 hours before the day ends. AND THEN you think i use these abilites to get towncred instead of trying to kill a claimed PGO to avoid having to target him in the night. It just reads as bullshit to me i dont believe you truly think that.

Also are people forgetting (because i did) that jean most likely had a green on me with how she stopped pushing me so instantly.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 04:50 GMT
#7014
On May 12 2015 13:11 Damdred wrote:
Now lets not result to a green check that's a bit wifom

its probable you were checked but we don't know. Also we have 5 cops and no godfather type role?

that is really unlikely


So im a godfather

I can change the fight before it is announced

I can change the fight 12 hours before day ends

And i can increase damage people do in the fights.

Seems unlikely

Also each cop had a restriction as well and theres already been miller flips.

Also ive only taken 4 damage all up damdred because you asked before.

Also tbh I don't really believe bats when he says he wins with town and his role is exactly as claimed because whats the point of him not just being a town.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 04:50 GMT
#7015
Does anyone have what the playerlist was D2?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 05:42 GMT
#7016
Also chez is there any chance of actually getting an explanation of your role from you. Where the "troll checks" actual checks? Did it work like you could only get alignment checks on people in your gym hence why it didnt work on me?

I think you owe me since i never got brown gloves.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 06:52 GMT
#7018
On May 10 2015 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
It's presumably 2 mafia and an sk. I don't mind lynching someone else, was talking to breshke about it. Chez probably a good lynch, nobody really talked about his mechanic at all yet.


Like this post aswell HF. Clearly you were fine about me talkign about other lynches as you thought aswell the game might not end yet youve done a complete 180 on that now to try make me look scummy.

Would lynch HF

Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 06:53 GMT
#7019
On May 12 2015 15:29 Chezinu wrote:
No they aren't real. Go ahead and kill me and fight out you mafia scum!!! Just kidding, I want to live.

Close setups are so trollable..

I had too much fun to feel sorry for going all Caller on you guys. Plus, we were winnings!

To prove to you guys my alignment, I will do something that will 100% confirm my alignment.

Guys...I'm not brown... I'm blue.

DUN DUN DUN!!!

That's it 100% confirmed.


So what is your role?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 07:19 GMT
#7022
Yeah but someone asked if you were an inventor and then later you said noone had guessed your role yet.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 08:40 GMT
#7023
For the people voting me I want you to explain the following things.

If you are saying I am mafia you are saying that only mafia had ability to change the fights meaning mafia could have chosen the first two fights no matter the promoter how do you believe this?

It's not wifom idc jean was on my ass D1 then d2 nothing it was dropped completely. I was very obviously green checked and yes you can argue that I am a godfather but if you add that to the list of the rest of my supposed roles then it gets far too ridiculous.

You have to also explain where the random 1 damage and such has been coming from, where the damage on marv came from D1. Where has the random 3 damage which also seemed to finish off LS been coming from? If i am scum how can I have all these supposed abilities. If you say its 3p then its obviously an anti town 3p so either bat snacks is lieing and we should lynch him or there is another 3p.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 08:52 GMT
#7024
Like I really want to lynch HF instead of bats or chez and its fucking illogical but like as anti town 3p i think his play makes a bunch of sense. He claims PGO to survive no matter if he is PGO or not this makes mafia weary of him. Even him choosing the MOM letter from chez was like the survival option. Yeah he fucking wrecked the mafia this game like he had been calling out yamato, vivax and sandroba since like D1 the only mafia he didn't get was FF.

If HF turns out to be mafia and went into the QT saw a bunch of guys who ceebs as mafia a lot and decided to bus them all and won because of modkills im going to eat a shoe.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 09:02 GMT
#7025
If bats wins with town why did he try put xata and marv both in the armature fight when they weren't even remotely scummy early. If he wins with town why did he not try damage scummy people it makes no sense.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 11:10 GMT
#7027
On May 12 2015 19:57 Holyflare wrote:
You think my 3p play is to 180 on my reads and turn onto you instead of pushing some free crap lynches on batsnacks or chezinu? You mad dude? Also. The amount of kp was enough to kill 1.5/2 people which steadily decreased as the game went on while town could kill roughly 1.5 people a day. It's really not unlikely that mafia could have a fight switching ability. However, the problem we now have is thay you are saying that not only am I 3p but I must have put myself in the fight which means mafia doesn't even have a fight swithcing power which means you are the only person that can switch fights. Why would a towny have that power if mafia can't fight switch?? I don't think it's unlikely mafia would have abilities to do an extra 15 dmg tbh?

You point out how I was talking with you yesterday but that's pretty much when my suspicions of you arose. I'll find the quotes hang on. You're probably right about bats lying though.






Im not saying its impossible for mafia to have a fight switcher because it still doesn't make sense for you as a 3rd party to put yourself in a postion where you would take damage.

Look at yamatos role i dont get why mafia didn't swap him in since he looked fairly townie after the D1 lynch just off of the sandroba flip AND he would of dealt extra damage to the other person 5% of the time.

Idk i still don't see how you can think that a mechanic is added to this game where we have to vote to see who controls it and mafia would have the power to change it and no town would. That would mean town wouldn't get a fight they wanted NO MATTER THE PROMOTER until D4
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 11:11 GMT
#7028
Like is it not better to lynch bats first if im probably right about him lying. Abilities he flips with could make stuff you think im doing a lot clearer
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 11:20 GMT
#7030
I can't you excite me Hf and ive been lonely where is everyone
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 11:34 GMT
#7033
On May 12 2015 20:22 Holyflare wrote:
Well we'd have 2 towny amateur fights if bats is town so it's not particularly hard to see. I've seen crazier things (4 cops in 1 game lololol)



This is actually a good argument for why mafia could have so much control of the fights.

On May 12 2015 20:23 Holyflare wrote:
What do you think about the possibility of xata being 3p? He really doesn't care about this game much and it's probably lylo?


I think its possible i got the feeling often that xata wasn't really involved because he wouldn't really do much for a while but then he would come back to the thread and just comment on stuff which i didn't really like at first because it made him feel really dejected but I then realized it was probably how he played and started liking his stuff more especially last night phase when me and him kinda came to the same conclusions.

I also like that he resisted you about me being scum where he could have just gone with the flow but i feel like reads like that havn't worked out for me before.

I don't really get it though like why would he care less if it was a lylo as 3p unless his win con is with scum which is doubtful. (i dont get 3p that can win with town/scum couldnt they just not be 3p?) Like if he is third party the game will continue and scum has to try attack him to kill and he apprently has a counter mekinism so then this wouldn't really be lylo anyway.

Im waffeling a bit here but yes I think he could easily be third party.

Can you explain to me why you don't seem that interested in chez. Like youve tried to work with him but he hasn't really been giving you much what do you make of that.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 12:01 GMT
#7036
On May 12 2015 20:51 Holyflare wrote:
It's just a thing that mafia/3p get less involved as the game goes on. Especially in a lylo where you need to be super involved to solve the game and stuff like that. He's more interested in his day 1 game than here? Also couldn't be bothered to try and sort through who the fight should be and just put it on 2 obvious people without really talking it through.

He defended you sure but he actually ignored all the relevant points raised on you and said some stuff that wasn't really true and when disproved still ignored it.


Another thing that made me think he was unlikely 3p was that he claimed to have an ability similar to jats where he would stay alive for a phase even if he was killed for all his hp which doesnt make sense for like a survivor type 3p because he just dies at the end of a phase so he cant win with that ability idk i guess he could be lying. It is apart of the reason iw anted him as fight promoter i wanted that ability activated.

On May 12 2015 20:53 Holyflare wrote:
Thing about chez is that I have no idea. He definitely has powers that aren't fight switching so it doesn't really warrant talking about as a mafia candidate. He could be 3p but then it leads back to who is the mafia.


Is this necessarily true though? Like i still have no idea what his role is and he gave something to SL which could apparently cancel the fight so why couldn't he have fight altering abilities. Although he probably can't be mafia anyway so that makes me feel even better about lynching bats because I really think he is scum and not 3p because i can't really see it being anyone else but you and if its you well done knowing exactly who in your team was going to not try from the get go and im happy to lose to you
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 12:59 GMT
#7040
No the towel canceled the fight as in like "throwing in the towel"

I never claimed to be in the gym i went along with his stuff early before i knew there even was a gym like all i said was i put on brown gloves. That is another good point though and adds to the fact that If mafia changed the fight, bats is mafia.

ehhh thats a good point about xata but it isnt worth me looking into if we don't lych bats today because obviously ill be dead instead. Also im going to sleep so I can hopefully be awake at least an hour before deadline.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 12 2015 13:14 GMT
#7043
Hama Dankichi

Anything else before i leave?
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