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On April 08 2015 12:07 gonzaw wrote:
I think people may have relied too much on "confirmations" using roles/PMs/etc.
Obi was basically assumed confirmed town because of a town check from someone
BH was basically assumed town the last phases because of some PM thing with Onegu (that I still don't understand)
HTS was basically assumed mafia for a while because of some weird night action stuff with Damdred and kita or whatever.
Just ignore all that shit, specially in a Greymist game. I mean, obviously dwell on that stuff and have all the fun you can get with 5th party House Chezinu and sleeper cell and self-redirecting magic-bus-driver and whatever. But for lynching and figuring out alignments....yeah, leave it out.
BH tried to help me make a Vigi shot item, and I got a broken mask. But I knew he visited me as mods gave him majoras mask on accident. So I couldn't wrap my head around why scum would try to give me a vigi shot... The sad thing is I would have lynched him had he not accidently been given majoras mask because I would have guessed he didn't visit me and was lying.
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Anyway I thought that game was good. I thought choosing rolenames/flavor from various media was really funny. Props to host/cohosts.
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On April 08 2015 12:13 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 11:34 Onegu wrote:JAT you told me to trust OwS so he was the only one I shared everything with  . Also I tried to play town leader last night I kept everything as close to the vest as I could except with Obi, while getting as much info as I could from everyone else. I started to trust HtS toward the end but couldn't PM directed OwS to bus me and sepulchre. Did you tell him I was doctor or did they guess that?
Dude I had all 9 people not bats claiming to me and what their actions were and I told him all of that. Oops
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Kita going to observe bats. VA going to shoot kita. BH checks speculre. Snarfs medic save you.Crossfire says he only has passives. Me mask to you lightning rod item on bats forcing VA to shoot bats. Then what you decide to do. I told HtS to do her thing on BH but guessing she is scum so. Speculre hasn't responded. I'm missing someone I think...
Original Message From ObiWanShinobi:
So what is everyone claiming as their night action? Is that finalized?
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GreY, how did you envision a town using the Strong Bad role? I couldn't figure out what to do with it and did the best that I could lol, which everyone didn't like haha.
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You also have some weird mystical power to seal away evil into masks, to be used later.
I kept waiting to power up and then like day 4 I asked about it and greymist was like yeah that's just flavor. Lol
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On April 08 2015 13:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
GreY, how did you envision a town using the Strong Bad role? I couldn't figure out what to do with it and did the best that I could lol, which everyone didn't like haha.
Could you not have just flipped some variation of your actual role?
I think that would have been immensely better. The way you used it just made it HARDER for town, not easier. I'm not sure that we gained anything from your "gimmick".
Town already has less information than scum. And it's not like scum even have to react to one of their teammates dying via NK.
I dunno, was just a weird ability and weird situation all around I think.
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On April 08 2015 12:54 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 12:07 gonzaw wrote:
I think people may have relied too much on "confirmations" using roles/PMs/etc.
Obi was basically assumed confirmed town because of a town check from someone
BH was basically assumed town the last phases because of some PM thing with Onegu (that I still don't understand)
HTS was basically assumed mafia for a while because of some weird night action stuff with Damdred and kita or whatever.
Just ignore all that shit, specially in a Greymist game. I mean, obviously dwell on that stuff and have all the fun you can get with 5th party House Chezinu and sleeper cell and self-redirecting magic-bus-driver and whatever. But for lynching and figuring out alignments....yeah, leave it out. BH tried to help me make a Vigi shot item, and I got a broken mask. But I knew he visited me as mods gave him majoras mask on accident. So I couldn't wrap my head around why scum would try to give me a vigi shot... The sad thing is I would have lynched him had he not accidently been given majoras mask because I would have guessed he didn't visit me and was lying.
I pointed this out in Obs QT, but in the 1st Aperture scum Nisani was a claimed inventor who invented ANYTHING town told him to. Vig shots, "color radiator" that netted 3 scum in a single move, and others.
So yeah, after that I believe scum would even suck your dick if it was for town approval.
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On April 08 2015 13:16 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 13:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
GreY, how did you envision a town using the Strong Bad role? I couldn't figure out what to do with it and did the best that I could lol, which everyone didn't like haha. Could you not have just flipped some variation of your actual role? I think that would have been immensely better. The way you used it just made it HARDER for town, not easier. I'm not sure that we gained anything from your "gimmick". Town already has less information than scum. And it's not like scum even have to react to one of their teammates dying via NK. I dunno, was just a weird ability and weird situation all around I think.
At some point I was starting to think it was a glorious fake-claim, in which your scum ability FORCED you to flip scum and be resurrected later, but giving you sweet abilities, so you had to come up with some excuse for flipping scum.
Hmm, too bad you weren't scum, it would have been a sweet play 
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On April 08 2015 13:16 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 13:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
GreY, how did you envision a town using the Strong Bad role? I couldn't figure out what to do with it and did the best that I could lol, which everyone didn't like haha. Could you not have just flipped some variation of your actual role? I think that would have been immensely better. The way you used it just made it HARDER for town, not easier. I'm not sure that we gained anything from your "gimmick". Town already has less information than scum. And it's not like scum even have to react to one of their teammates dying via NK. I dunno, was just a weird ability and weird situation all around I think.
One thought I had was to flip a powerful role, so that when you come back you draw the attention of the scum. You would draw protections/shots/abilities in that case and can possibly at least act as bait.
Thats probably what I would have done. Added bonus that the dangeresque ability would allow you to live for another phase.
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On April 08 2015 08:29 GreYMisT wrote:
Jat was bussed with onegu who was bussed with blazinghand who was bussed with jat who was also bussed with keirathi
In the hopes of directing a vig where I needed it.
hijole I played so bad after that
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On April 08 2015 08:31 Blazinghand wrote:
ALSO, I had an unbelievable amount of fun this game, especially during the night phases. Thanks so much for hosting, GreyMist! And thanks geript and phagga for great cohosting!
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On April 08 2015 08:40 GreYMisT wrote:
I'd like to know why all of night 1 revolved around koshi and JAT
For my part, I was hoping someone would vig Blazinghand.
This would kill JAT. Killing the warrior, partly validating my prophecy, and partially fulfilling a wincon.
I had a lot of pride this game. I was gunning for 5 wincons fulfilled.
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On April 08 2015 12:59 Onegu wrote:
Kita going to observe bats. VA going to shoot kita. BH checks speculre. Snarfs medic save you.Crossfire says he only has passives. Me mask to you lightning rod item on bats forcing VA to shoot bats. Then what you decide to do. I told HtS to do her thing on BH but guessing she is scum so. Speculre hasn't responded. I'm missing someone I think...
Original Message From ObiWanShinobi:
So what is everyone claiming as their night action? Is that finalized?
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Bahaha that's awesome :D
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On April 08 2015 08:43 GreYMisT wrote:
But yea I will be talking about this game and the Aperture series/Hosting themed games in general on the next mafia podcast. So please leave any thoughts here. I am particuarly interesting in things that you found confusing about your role or things that you thought were really cool about the interactions. I would also like to know if there was a mechanic in your role that you found to not be fun to use.
Another thing I want input on is in trhead notification. In chrono trigger and Aperture 1 there was a lot of notification in the thread if an ability was used (such as learning when a yugioh card is played or a pokemon dies), as well as a lot of ##Command abilities. Do you guys find that you wanted these?
These are the greatest thing since sliced bread, yes
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what a disaster of a game for town
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On April 08 2015 08:49 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 08:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 08 2015 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Koshi and JAT are possibly the two most hated players on all of TL, of course everyone used their powers on the two of them. Debatable. Fair enough, but you'll have to come up with an alternative hypothesis for why a good number of townies from various walks of life (Rso or VE or Slam who could have won with town for example) would townread you but also inexplicably not want to work with you and/or follow your plans. You're an intelligent player, so it's not that they think you're dumb; I believe it's an issue of personal animus.
I was just put off by the antagonism I faced as soon as people started to actually pm me instead of the other way around.
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On April 08 2015 08:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 08:49 Blazinghand wrote:On April 08 2015 08:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 08 2015 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Koshi and JAT are possibly the two most hated players on all of TL, of course everyone used their powers on the two of them. Debatable. Fair enough, but you'll have to come up with an alternative hypothesis for why a good number of townies from various walks of life (Rso or VE or Slam who could have won with town for example) would townread you but also inexplicably not want to work with you and/or follow your plans. You're an intelligent player, so it's not that they think you're dumb; I believe it's an issue of personal animus. Rso DID work with me and told me everything she knew so you can take her off the list. VE did not work with ANYONE so you can take him off the list. Slam was not town and also not working with anyone so you can take him off the list. 
Also false. I worked with Rsoul and WoS, WoS out of pure desire to give him something powerful.
At my own expense.
And to gauge his reaction for being mafia.
And done very poorly.
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