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On April 08 2015 09:34 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
Kitaman don't even talk to me about flaming. It was lylo and I gave you free mafia and was literally the only player in the game trying to analyse anything only for a bunch of afk tits to say lololol let's lynch hf. I pleaded about 500 times for people to stop and actually talk about my analysis and instead you didn't.
It's also ridiculous for me to claim day 1 when there's a sherlock a watson a lestrade and i have no idea what any of their win cons or powers are. I was on batsnacks the entire cycle up to the last 5 minutes. You were the one that was refusing to give us the vote that we needed and talking about holding the game hostage once we reached 5 votes on batsnacks....adding fuel to the fire about the HTS lynch and calling me mafia any time I showed up to say absolutely anything. I understand playing towards your win condition if you need to get BH lynched and yeah we shouldn't have lynched you at the last moment, but stuff like this really gets old quick when there is literally no reason for you to be bullying people like that: Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 02:03 Holyflare wrote:
i don't care if you're just going to be a whiney bitch Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 11:36 Holyflare wrote:
Or you're just terrible and arrogant like usual. Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
why do you love to be an obnoxious prick all the time Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
holy fucking shit there is no way you are this useless kitaman
It's mylo, arguably the most important time in the game and the entirety of the last 2 pages of your filter is yoh ignoring everything that I was writing to just comment with things about mod confirmation which would never ever come and how I'm confirmed mafia for being subject to mod mistakes. You didn't even humour me for a chat about anything. Regardless of what you think and you could quite clearly see i was getting irate with the thread for not responding to me at all, all you ever did was needlesly antagonise someone trying to solve the rest of the game.
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On April 08 2015 08:43 GreYMisT wrote:
But yea I will be talking about this game and the Aperture series/Hosting themed games in general on the next mafia podcast. So please leave any thoughts here. I am particuarly interesting in things that you found confusing about your role or things that you thought were really cool about the interactions. I would also like to know if there was a mechanic in your role that you found to not be fun to use.
Another thing I want input on is in trhead notification. In chrono trigger and Aperture 1 there was a lot of notification in the thread if an ability was used (such as learning when a yugioh card is played or a pokemon dies), as well as a lot of ##Command abilities. Do you guys find that you wanted these?
I really enjoyed the roles and such as a whole.
Some constructive feedback on my role specifically:
Largest Army: No (reasonable) townie should really ever use that ability. Granted, I never asked for clarification of what "controls the lynch the next day" meant, in a game like this with all of the night actions and KP flying around, a no-lynch is just bad. Even if I had perfect reads, I wouldn't have even considered using it to save myself and I 100% know that I am town. I can't even think of a realistic scenario where it would be worth using.
Longest Road: Excellent ability. No complaints there, just sucked that I wasn't able to use it effectively. That was on my for telling BH that I was going to use it though. I should have known something was up when he just immediately said he would trust me after he had been calling me scum all game 
The cards: I got clarification from geript about how my cards worked. I would have had to not only predict who would be alive (and still have a useful ability) 2 nights into the future, but they also would have had to give up a full night of actions to get an anti-roleblock. That's kind of asking a lot, I think.
Using them for roleblocks could have been fine, though!
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On April 08 2015 09:34 Holyflare wrote:
Hts maybe if you read the thread you'd understand my reasons for wanting to lynch you over bats. You scum read half of my list and then proceeded to call me mafia for going after low hanging fruit. Despite the fact that my list was quite accurate indeed. I then asked ppl to comment on my reads and explain stuff and you bypassed it all just to call me mafia again because I was like carol. You then wasted time talking about trfel's reads and going into way too much detail about it right before the deadline.
Actually I did (your filter, plus the last 40 pages), and I had concluded it was mafia agenda. And you've bussed like crazy before, so being convinced you were scum I just completely ignored you. Was it the right decision probably not, but when you hijacked the vote like you did, it's really hard to argue that you didn't deserve what happened to you.
People wanted to lynch me for why I trusted Trfel, and I was the leading wagon so I'm not sure how me discussing Trfel was a problem. Crossfire also mafia sided hard, but when I saw in thread who was taking advantage of the wagon on me (namely Bats, OWS and BH) it made them even more apparent. Was the discussion on Trfel unproductive? Yes, but town wasn't being rational when Snarfs and others said there was no world in which I was mafia when Sepulchre was town.
Also you of all people should know not everyone had the time to actually engage in conversation, or your style of scumhunting. You scumread Kita I think for something similar. I mean if you can't deal with people's methods of posting, that's on you.
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On April 08 2015 09:47 Half the Sky wrote:
Also you of all people should know not everyone had the time to actually engage in conversation, or your style of scumhunting. You scumread Kita I think for something similar. I mean if you can't deal with people's methods of posting, that's on you.
Right back at you.
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Honestly you guys should just stop bitching at each other. We lost the game, who cares. Get over it and play the next one.
There's no need for pointing out each other's mistakes. It doesn't accomplish anything.
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kitaman27
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On April 08 2015 09:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 09:34 kitaman27 wrote:On April 08 2015 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
Kitaman don't even talk to me about flaming. It was lylo and I gave you free mafia and was literally the only player in the game trying to analyse anything only for a bunch of afk tits to say lololol let's lynch hf. I pleaded about 500 times for people to stop and actually talk about my analysis and instead you didn't.
It's also ridiculous for me to claim day 1 when there's a sherlock a watson a lestrade and i have no idea what any of their win cons or powers are. I was on batsnacks the entire cycle up to the last 5 minutes. You were the one that was refusing to give us the vote that we needed and talking about holding the game hostage once we reached 5 votes on batsnacks....adding fuel to the fire about the HTS lynch and calling me mafia any time I showed up to say absolutely anything. I understand playing towards your win condition if you need to get BH lynched and yeah we shouldn't have lynched you at the last moment, but stuff like this really gets old quick when there is literally no reason for you to be bullying people like that: On March 29 2015 02:03 Holyflare wrote:
i don't care if you're just going to be a whiney bitch On March 29 2015 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
you're all shit posts On March 29 2015 11:36 Holyflare wrote:
Or you're just terrible and arrogant like usual. On March 30 2015 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
why do you love to be an obnoxious prick all the time On April 06 2015 11:04 Holyflare wrote:
no it's not at all you tool On April 03 2015 11:27 Holyflare wrote:
Vote me you fucking coward. On April 07 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
holy fucking shit there is no way you are this useless kitaman On April 07 2015 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
useless shit town It's mylo, arguably the most important time in the game and the entirety of the last 2 pages of your filter is yoh ignoring everything that I was writing to just comment with things about mod confirmation which would never ever come and how I'm confirmed mafia for being subject to mod mistakes. You didn't even humour me for a chat about anything. Regardless of what you think and you could quite clearly see i was getting irate with the thread for not responding to me at all, all you ever did was needlesly antagonise someone trying to solve the rest of the game.
Perhaps it came down to perspective. I felt that batsnacks was the correct lynch because you take what you are given and then re-evaluate afterwards. The whole "VA needs to kill batsnacks tonight so lets let him live" thing seemed pretty nonsensical so it didn't seem very important to me to talk about alternatives. I happened to have a town read on HTS, although it was mostly due to PMs and I really struggled to find any reasoning why so I guess I could have tried to be more outspoken about that. With BH, I agreed with almost everything you were saying, except the unclaimed Moriarty existing. You obviously knew your role so that was pretty straight forward from your perspective. That was also a rough cycle for me activity wise because of real life stuff so I could mostly pop in the thread every once and a while. I suppose I could have chatted with you, but I don't think my opinion would have changed much. I probably should have tried a bit harder to convince you to vote with town with assurance that we'd go after your target aftewards.
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For the hosting team:
The only thing I'd add for my role is to give myself the ability to protect myself in the event I redirect KP onto myself, or reduce the KP to a fraction so I can gather a little more information from my actions. Somehow find a way to make it not quite as powerful as a copcheck but more like a JK where you're not fully sure. Hard for me to articulate but there it is.
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If you have the time to write giant walls of text to talk about trfel you have time to answer some questions in 30 second one liners that would help me, thw person you are trying to prove you are towny to (and xfire who was just pushing someone not batsnacks for the same reason i was) understand you more. If you thought i was mafia i couldn't be hijacking the lynch at all eother.
You literally ignored anything about lynching the mafia to defend yourseld and accuse me when you already saw there was a confirmed batsnacks around!
I still scum read kita for not really being useful :p
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I'm sorry i got so mad dude, you're pretty reasonable and it's just frustrating to start putting in effort in the right direction and get shut down and not listened to.
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Anyways, I'm out. Not particularly too upset we lost, it was pretty hard to piece things together, a few things were a bit annoying, but such is life.
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that feel when you skip all the end game comments because you know nothing of value was said when town loses
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Thanks to Greymist, phagga, and le self banned geript for hosting.
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On April 08 2015 09:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Oh so how did I come up as a "bad reputation" as the batman or was that completely made up on the spot? XD
Im a little curious about this why bats pm block didn't work on you. It wasn't made up on the spot though
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It is pretty interesting how close this game was to falling apart for the scum team even though the end result doesn't make it look close.
If one or two things would have gone even very slightly differently, it could have been a really really close game.
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On April 08 2015 09:51 Keirathi wrote:
Honestly you guys should just stop bitching at each other. We lost the game, who cares. Get over it and play the next one.
There's no need for pointing out each other's mistakes. It doesn't accomplish anything.
When you were talking sense I had to turn up the bullshit and confusion lol.
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On April 08 2015 10:04 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 09:51 Keirathi wrote:
Honestly you guys should just stop bitching at each other. We lost the game, who cares. Get over it and play the next one.
There's no need for pointing out each other's mistakes. It doesn't accomplish anything. When you were talking sense I had to turn up the bullshit and confusion lol.
I thought the image I posted was pretty appropriate <3
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kitaman27
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Well I mean I think it is unfair that I didn't say anything useful during that period. I didn't mean to antagonize you (well maybe a little ), though I will admit I didn't trust you at all, especially with JAT's track suggesting you were Moriarty. I think you were more interested in figuring the game out, thinking about the next couple cycles, and perhaps taking a bit more of a risk with the d4, while I was more focused on the safe route, getting d4 right and then looking at the flipped mafia to get a better picture of the rest of the game.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 06 2015 07:26 kitaman27 wrote:
I doubt I'd buy any new claim considering he already had his chance, but yeah lets see what he says. On April 06 2015 11:09 kitaman27 wrote:
Or VA is mafia and you're leading a switch off a claimed mafia. On April 06 2015 11:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Therefore sep can be mafia with a town HTS, but a you can't have a town sep with a mafia HTS. On April 06 2015 12:14 kitaman27 wrote:
We don't base our lynch on two claimed third party players, who both have a chance of being mafia.
Town has kp and protective roles left for night actions.
Take the mafia that is given to you with batsnacks. On April 06 2015 12:32 kitaman27 wrote:
So if VA fake claimed, his fake claim was pointed out to be false so he fake claimed a second time, and now with his third claim you're willing to base the outcome of the game on what he says? On April 06 2015 12:43 kitaman27 wrote:
Well I'm voting batsnacks and so is snarfs and obi.
I think you guys can figure out which side is correct. On April 07 2015 02:41 kitaman27 wrote:
If batsnacks is confirmed mafia, why would you even consider believing a word he says? On April 07 2015 05:32 kitaman27 wrote:
How is it convenient for him to get a batsnack mislynch if you're saying batsnacks is mafia? On April 07 2015 05:36 kitaman27 wrote:
And how would BH be Moriarty? You're saying he is fake claiming the role of his scum buddy lestrade?
If lestrade wasn't one of the two players doing checks, you don't think marv wouldn't show up and say "uhhh guys, this role doesn't exist"? On April 07 2015 06:13 kitaman27 wrote:
VA shows up saying that we can't lynch bats with a 3p win condition that doesn't even make sense...and town suddenly decides that they need to let VA or HF determine who town lynches. On April 07 2015 07:25 kitaman27 wrote:
I assume it's something like this? I would you're swapping to bats?
Bats (6): Kita, BH, HTS, Snarfs, Sep, Onegu
HTS (5): HF, OWS, Xfire, Bats, VA
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It really was, the weird thing though was how everyone backed off VA after I flipped and nothing I said came true. Obviously you had to go to bats but was really weird
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kitaman27
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On April 08 2015 10:04 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 09:51 Keirathi wrote:
Honestly you guys should just stop bitching at each other. We lost the game, who cares. Get over it and play the next one.
There's no need for pointing out each other's mistakes. It doesn't accomplish anything. When you were talking sense I had to turn up the bullshit and confusion lol.
I think fake claiming a non-confirmable role early on as mafia is really the way to go. You did a good job gaining trust at that point, though just curious, why did you decide to claim the win condition on killing gordon when you knew the mafia team would have to kill off LS sooner than later. I think you could have gotten away with things if you claimed something like "I need to kill gordon and the joker (or some other role that was unlikely to exist". I makes it seem like you are a fair 3p since you have to go after a player of each alignment and gives you a reason for being around after LS is dead.
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