Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal - Page 277

On April 05 2015 01:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Generally to everyone who hasn't already done so:

IF YOU DON'T FULLY CLAIM YOUR ROLE AND ACTIONS TO ME UNTIL DEADLINE I WILL CONSIDER THIS A SCUMCLAIM!

There is 0 excuse not to. I am 100 % confirmed town. If you don't want anyone else to know tell me but I have to know.

On April 05 2015 02:45 Keirathi wrote:

How's that?

On April 05 2015 02:46 Onegu wrote:
Wait has anyone noticed to player list changed order? I don't like being on top...

On April 05 2015 02:10 justanothertownie wrote:

No, you didn't. Why are you lying?

On April 05 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:


it's the same role just with a check

On April 05 2015 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:

Damdred gave me lurker spikes night1. Damdred cannot give items to mafia.
And even if that wasn't the case if you want to tell me that my interactions with damdred yesterday were mafia/mafia then I don't know that to tell you.

On April 05 2015 03:05 Keirathi wrote:

I'm just playing devil's advocate here because I REALLY hate when people try to call themselves confirmed town:

1) We don't even know for sure that you had the spikes because they didn't actually do anything.

2) Scum still has a busdriver unless you and Damdred were both scum and made up the whole bus thing together. But, more realistically, there is a busdriver, which potentially means that Damdred could have given his items to his teammates through the bus mechanic.

And yes, I do know for a fact that Damdred's power was bussable because when I asked about how my power worked, it was told to me that it would work on basically anything that could also be busdriven, and Damdred's item generation thing was specifically pointed out as an example.

On April 05 2015 02:58 justanothertownie wrote:
To the guy who just told me to trust him. No. Fully claim to me right now.

On April 05 2015 03:11 strongandbig wrote:
Kita has persuaded me in PMs that he shouldn't be a lynch target tomorrow. I'm not 100% convinced he's town but I am convinced that his alternative explanations for the thigns I thought made him scum are reasonable. As much as I can, I will be holding his filter to a higher standard starting tomorrow (in terms of pushing objectives and scumhunting).

I also sent some thoughts about some players to him but I see no reason not to share those in thread:

- batsnacks I haven't really read as trying to be helpful or reasonable in the thread; scummy but I would have to thread dive him before committing to a lynch
- while batsnacks has kind of jumped out as being antitown I have no impression of sepulchre, that probably reflects badly on both him and me.
- VE looks shitty but sometimes he just plays shitty. I just skimmed his filter, I actually kind of like his reasoning on crossfire (that he put more effort into looking good re-entering the thread than he did into actually making use of his "gambit") but other than that there's a lot of stuff I don't like - especially that he's jumping from tunnel to tunnel without really caring what happened to the previous tunnel. Actually, I really don't like his filter - if you're town he's probably scum. Even if you're scum, he isn't playing like town but sometimes he just does that and I don't really know how to evaluate it. (I know there's no evidence that hosts actually balance vets but I still believe they do).
- I haven't seen anything that makes me think yamato isn't town
- VA - I haven't really seen anything super convincing. I mean, he was marv's main scum read so we should probably lynch him just for that. This BH thing could be a double bus, I guess.
- xfire - idk there, like I think it was weird that he sent me his pms without anyone asking greymist and without letting anyone know he asked greymist, it made me think maybe he was in a scum QT with greymist; but I also think it was probably towny of him to take the initiative there and send them to me. He hasn't been very effective but I'm not sure if I should expect him to be, and he's linked in some way to the sherlock circle thing. I guess I wouldn't want to kill him but if someone made a case I would be open to it.

On April 05 2015 03:15 justanothertownie wrote:

Any opinion on HTS?

On April 05 2015 03:28 strongandbig wrote:

I can read her filter but it's hard because I've never played with her before.
After a quick scan of her filter, it looks like her posts are more reasoned/thoughtful than others I could name, nothing super jumps out at me but I haven't done a super deep read or anything. Is there a case I should be considering? I've read some people say they have meta reasons, like she's less active or invested or whatever than in town games, but obviously I can't evaluate that since she joined after I went on hiatus.

On April 05 2015 03:30 Keirathi wrote:

In particular, take a look at how she reacted to the thing Damdred claimed to use that blocked rsoultin's PMs but didn't block Kita's, and then how she reacted when Damdred claimed to watch Slam and saw kita/xfire/<whoever else> visit slam but she should have known that she used her claimed ability and Kita couldn't have been watched at Slam.