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On March 28 2015 08:27 Sepulchre wrote: Thinking about it, the cleric is probably the most important role of the three. I'm not very concerned about the rogue, the no-lynch is practically impossible to use without him eating rope the next day. So I will focus on getting town people on positions 3 and 1. Finding mafia would be a plus, but seems secondary. On March 29 2015 21:57 Sepulchre wrote: @Holyflare's listpost: I disagree heavily with batsnacks, I'd put him next to WaveofShadow personally. I'm somewhat okay with the rest of the list to varying degrees. The two people who said Hapahauli is a Jester-type role I read as very town. It fits perfectly the kind of wtf play he has been doing and I think no mafia would say that in this situation - Hapahauli was (and is I suppose) the prime lynch target and as mafia they wouldn't care one bit about that, so long as it's not a mafia member getting lynched. Between rsoultin and VayneAuthority I think VayneAuthority seems like the smarter guy. So I'll vote him now since I can't fully guarantee being back before the deadline. Now I don't understand where he got this since VA isn't doing much if any analysing compared to rsoultin, who I'd like to see in the adventuring party. Can someone who's played an Aperture game before tell me if third party roles GENERALLY work for, against, or independently of town wincons? If the answer is against, then maybe Sep or SL might be good lynches, but if we don't know, I'd say leave them alone. | ||
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This game, looking through his filter...mostly anti-Koshi for reasons outside this game. Softed blue, which makes me extremely hesitant to lynch him right now, and I have zero knowledge of his scum meta, so I'm going to say don't lynch BH. Especially since he inferred in his filter he was busy because of the weekend. I don't like his "I'm not going to read 50 pages" or whatever, so I think he should be on a tight leash...if he's a blue townie he needs to play to a level that supports that credibility. | ||
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On March 30 2015 06:58 kitaman27 wrote: Could you justify this post hapa? When referencing several other players, you attack them for not looking for mafia. Why is BH the exception? Here's my question to you (based on what I said previously on my knowledge of BH gameplay) - do you know BH to be a scumhunter when he's town? And if so, how much of it does it do relative to the top towns? I am assuming you've had more exposure to him as a player than I have had in my scant two games alongside him. | ||
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On March 30 2015 07:13 Onegu wrote: Looking at rsoul, slam, and BH Am I misunderstanding? If this is your lynch list, why? | ||
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Lynching SL for being third party and not knowing that person's win condition is a bit short sighted based on how well and thoroughly town Trfel plays. This is what appears to look scumlike for me for Trfel. | ||
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On March 30 2015 07:35 Trfel wrote: I was out for all of today. I'm 36 pages behind. Is there anything I need to know/do before End of Day? On March 29 2015 16:06 Trfel wrote: I personally like a sicklucker lynch. He's basically claimed third party. Can you explain why you are wanting to lynch sicklucker for being/claiming third party when 1 presumably you don't know what the third party wincons are 2 if you are town, you should be lynching mafia, so why aren't/didn't you re-examining your other scumreads (Damdred and ExO) from your last post | ||
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On March 30 2015 07:45 Trfel wrote: You're right, I don't know what third party win conditions are, but I do know that they have to be eliminated.I haven't yet had a chance to examine my scumreads.[/QUOTE] On March 23 2015 05:44 GreYMisT wrote: Town: Objective - Kill all mafia, and all third parties that can’t win with town I see what you're saying, but we don't fully know that. My understanding of this is that some can and some can't, but if you want to take a chance on SL, then I understand, and obviously you haven't had the time to explore anything else. | ||
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On March 30 2015 07:45 Trfel wrote: You're right, I don't know what third party win conditions are, but I do know that they have to be eliminated. I haven't yet had a chance to examine my scumreads. On March 23 2015 05:44 GreYMisT wrote: Town: Objective - Kill all mafia, and all third parties that can’t win with town I see what you're saying, but we don't fully know that. My understanding of this is that some can and some can't, but if you want to take a chance on SL, then I understand, and obviously you haven't had the time to explore anything else. | ||
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I am ducking out to attend to Guardians, but I'll return after the flip. | ||
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I'm headed to bed, open to PMs, will get to anything sent in the morning. | ||
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On March 30 2015 08:36 LightningStrike wrote: Alright I wont tell you guys who I will check and hope for the best that I don't get roleblocked so if we got a doctor power on me and a watcher on me too that would be fantastic. Why would you claim at night? Especially in a game like this you don't know the powers/abilities that exist? | ||
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On March 30 2015 23:07 kitaman27 wrote: Where's your spine? What was the good point about sicklucker because it certainly wasn't that nonsense about allowing the coin flip people to talk about something else. Did it come down to filter size for a guy who hadn't even been in the thread all day? I want a refund. I took another read-through of HF's filter, and he seemed to be wanting to go for Hapa/BH for the longest time, and then it was boom on sicklucker (pages 13-14 of his filter) for the meta/page length, which I personally couldn't fault, but I'll ping him for the same thing I did Trfel, when he was sure of SL being third party, and not fully knowing wincon, what made him that much more attractive than his other scumreads - he names Hapa/BH and I think he had at least bh in his list post. I think up to page 11 of the filter, he was gunning especially for Hapa but unless I missed it I couldn't quite figure out why he just dropped Hapa for sicklucker on page 13 without a change in read on Hapa. On March 30 2015 05:16 Holyflare wrote: hapa is totes trying to buddy me by copying what i said already This gives me the indication that HF is either scumreading or indicating a scum tell on Hapa. This was on page 13 of filter. And then also on same page, he goes right to sicklucker. I know he said at some point SL had the greatest chance of being scum (paraphrasing) but I can't see how he quantified that as greater than hapa when he was pushing or mentioning hapa more in the filter. On March 30 2015 06:05 Holyflare wrote: i think we should default lynch sicklucker for having 3 page filter in a 101 page game when his mafia tell that he loves to talk about is having no filter /discuss | ||
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On March 30 2015 23:25 Holyflare wrote: so if a guy only posts low amount of posts as mafia and spams the shit out of the thread as town and he has 3 pages this game what is the alternative to think? I don't fault your rationale for lynching SL, but after a read-through of your filter, can you explain why you were content with a meta-read on a claimed third party where wincon is not known over your reads on hapa and bh, the latter of whom you were sure was scum (and you list posted him as such)? I failed to see where your reads changed on them, so if I did miss them, call it. Did you believe sicklucker's claim when he first made it? | ||
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