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Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
March 29 2015 22:51 GMT
#2401
On March 30 2015 07:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh. Sickulcker seems like such a cop-out vote. I don't see how an anti-town 3rd party is claiming in his situation.

The idea is that he is mafia, not 3p
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 29 2015 22:51 GMT
#2402
On March 30 2015 07:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 07:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 30 2015 07:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 30 2015 07:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 30 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:
okay i'm still on snarfs just as an fyi

Didn't you say you would vote with the majority?
First of all you should value the opinion of your townreads.
Second of all vote me unless you think VE is more towny than I am.


already voted you

and yes, but if y'all think i can keep track of the bh/snarfs/trfel majority right now lol

i am on snarfs

if y'all want that changed you need to say so NOW

i'd prefer snarfs to trfel anyway so there's that

Why? What's towny about Trfel?


he's making sense and i know i'll be able to read him once he posts more

What exactly did he say that makes sense?
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 29 2015 22:51 GMT
#2403
On March 30 2015 07:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm GreYMisT, Embodiment of the Host of the Game.

Everyone who doesn't vote for me gets modkilled at the end of this cycle. Fucking test me motherfuckers.

Wasn't GreYMisT a scum role in the last Aperture?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 29 2015 22:51 GMT
#2404
taking a guess at the flavor I dont see why the 3 detectives wouldn't be town/mafia/3rd party but I digress.
I come in for the scraps
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 22:51 GMT
#2405
On March 30 2015 07:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh. Sickulcker seems like such a cop-out vote. I don't see how an anti-town 3rd party is claiming in his situation.


please prove to me how my post is wrong and how it is a cop out, he'd love to afk as mafia under a claim, he's done it before
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
March 29 2015 22:51 GMT
#2406
On March 30 2015 07:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 07:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 30 2015 07:45 Chezitwo wrote:
So LS has claimed a weird parity cop.

BH has claimed Lestrade, and knows (?) there exists two other roles which receive checks of some variety?

That's a lot of checking power lying around


so specifically mine is a mild rolecop (returns category of power, like healing, killing, roleblocking, etc) and is linked to 2 otehr roles in the game, Sherlock and Morioarity. All 3 of us recieve each other's checks, but NOT each other's targets. I'm not sure if they're ALSO rolecops, or what. My guess is Sherlock is an alignment cop or a name cop so that our powers can work together if we get into PMs together.

My checking is compulsive, since ther esults go to all 3 of us. I can choose to not get my own result back, and instead learn who someone's target was. So normally I get this:

My own result
Sherl's result
Mor's result

I can choose to get this:

Sher's result
Mor''s result
who either sherl or mor targeted

and i don't see what my own result was


Well it's a PM game so I don't see how one of these players wouldn't be mafia. If there are three town roles, the three investigative roles simply identify the most town player, PM the target, and then the town player relays the target to the other players making the identities safe.


Fluff wise, Sherl and Lestrade are in oppsosition to moriarity. Taht's what I said about me claiming making scum stronger. Moriaririty is some kind of scum cop, and if I claim my target every night (as people will force me to), sherlock will get that info but so will Moriaririty-- he'll know both my result AND who I targeted.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 29 2015 22:52 GMT
#2407
On March 30 2015 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 07:50 rsoultin wrote:
On March 30 2015 07:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 30 2015 07:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 30 2015 07:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 30 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:
okay i'm still on snarfs just as an fyi

Didn't you say you would vote with the majority?
First of all you should value the opinion of your townreads.
Second of all vote me unless you think VE is more towny than I am.


already voted you

and yes, but if y'all think i can keep track of the bh/snarfs/trfel majority right now lol

i am on snarfs

if y'all want that changed you need to say so NOW

i'd prefer snarfs to trfel anyway so there's that

Why? What's towny about Trfel?


he's making sense and i know i'll be able to read him once he posts more

What exactly did he say that makes sense?


i don't know that he's right that all 3p are anti-town, but if he believes it, his scumread "claiming" 3p would just make him want to lynch them more. this makes sense
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 29 2015 22:52 GMT
#2408
On March 30 2015 07:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 07:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh. Sickulcker seems like such a cop-out vote. I don't see how an anti-town 3rd party is claiming in his situation.


please prove to me how my post is wrong and how it is a cop out, he'd love to afk as mafia under a claim, he's done it before


Eh.
Retired.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 29 2015 22:52 GMT
#2409
On March 30 2015 04:07 Hapahauli wrote:
He wants to lynch sicklucker because he's 3rd party. That's a big nono. Mafia want to lynch 3rd parties. Town generally are looking for mafia first. It doesn't help that the rest of his post is basically summary and non-committal reads on LS, myself, and HtS.
Wait, this is why I am being lynched???

This makes no sense. Town needs to eliminate third party. And again, I would take a very good chance at killing third party over a random shot at killing mafia.

I didn't make a read on Hapahauli, I didn't make a read on Half the Sky. My "zzzz" about Hapahauli both means that I was bored of his play (he wasn't doing anything), and I was extremely bored of all of the focus and discussion about him. As for Half the Sky, I want her to not be lynched so I have more time to read her. I feel that she is easy to read after some time, but with her being busy for the first portion of the game, that time wasn't provided.

I stood up to the wave of people trying to lynch LightningStrike. And you call that non-committal? If LightningStrike is lynched and flips mafia, I look really bad for that.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 29 2015 22:52 GMT
#2410
On March 30 2015 07:51 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 07:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm GreYMisT, Embodiment of the Host of the Game.

Everyone who doesn't vote for me gets modkilled at the end of this cycle. Fucking test me motherfuckers.

Wasn't GreYMisT a scum role in the last Aperture?

Don't know you tell me. Or just die to modkill. I don't really care which.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 29 2015 22:53 GMT
#2411
I might just switch my vote to HF. SL lynch seems pretty good.

I don't really care at all about Snarfs. If anything he should be shot so who cares.
Retired.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 29 2015 22:53 GMT
#2412
On March 30 2015 07:45 Trfel wrote:
You're right, I don't know what third party win conditions are, but I do know that they have to be eliminated.

I haven't yet had a chance to examine my scumreads.[/QUOTE]

On March 23 2015 05:44 GreYMisT wrote:
Town: Objective - Kill all mafia, and all third parties that can’t win with town


I see what you're saying, but we don't fully know that. My understanding of this is that some can and some can't, but if you want to take a chance on SL, then I understand, and obviously you haven't had the time to explore anything else.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 29 2015 22:53 GMT
#2413
On March 30 2015 07:52 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 04:07 Hapahauli wrote:
He wants to lynch sicklucker because he's 3rd party. That's a big nono. Mafia want to lynch 3rd parties. Town generally are looking for mafia first. It doesn't help that the rest of his post is basically summary and non-committal reads on LS, myself, and HtS.
Wait, this is why I am being lynched???

This makes no sense. Town needs to eliminate third party. And again, I would take a very good chance at killing third party over a random shot at killing mafia.

I didn't make a read on Hapahauli, I didn't make a read on Half the Sky. My "zzzz" about Hapahauli both means that I was bored of his play (he wasn't doing anything), and I was extremely bored of all of the focus and discussion about him. As for Half the Sky, I want her to not be lynched so I have more time to read her. I feel that she is easy to read after some time, but with her being busy for the first portion of the game, that time wasn't provided.

I stood up to the wave of people trying to lynch LightningStrike. And you call that non-committal? If LightningStrike is lynched and flips mafia, I look really bad for that.


yup its a stupid teamliquid rule, dont pay attention to it and just play your game. People like to leave 3rd parties alone on this site even though they can be extremely dangerous especially in games like this.
I come in for the scraps
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 29 2015 22:53 GMT
#2414
EBWOP - quote fixed

On March 30 2015 07:45 Trfel wrote:
You're right, I don't know what third party win conditions are, but I do know that they have to be eliminated.

I haven't yet had a chance to examine my scumreads.


On March 23 2015 05:44 GreYMisT wrote:
Town: Objective - Kill all mafia, and all third parties that can’t win with town


I see what you're saying, but we don't fully know that. My understanding of this is that some can and some can't, but if you want to take a chance on SL, then I understand, and obviously you haven't had the time to explore anything else.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 29 2015 22:53 GMT
#2415
Holyflare told me in pms that having sicklucker as a main is is a cop out when referring to yamato and that he disagrees with the mafia read on sicklucker made by Trfel.

Real lack of consistancy here...
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2015 22:54 GMT
#2416
On March 30 2015 07:52 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 04:07 Hapahauli wrote:
He wants to lynch sicklucker because he's 3rd party. That's a big nono. Mafia want to lynch 3rd parties. Town generally are looking for mafia first. It doesn't help that the rest of his post is basically summary and non-committal reads on LS, myself, and HtS.
Wait, this is why I am being lynched???

This makes no sense. Town needs to eliminate third party. And again, I would take a very good chance at killing third party over a random shot at killing mafia.

I didn't make a read on Hapahauli, I didn't make a read on Half the Sky. My "zzzz" about Hapahauli both means that I was bored of his play (he wasn't doing anything), and I was extremely bored of all of the focus and discussion about him. As for Half the Sky, I want her to not be lynched so I have more time to read her. I feel that she is easy to read after some time, but with her being busy for the first portion of the game, that time wasn't provided.

I stood up to the wave of people trying to lynch LightningStrike. And you call that non-committal? If LightningStrike is lynched and flips mafia, I look really bad for that.


You're being lynched more for the later posts in my filter.

Regardless, I don't think you're being lynched. HF has a good point about sicklucker.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 29 2015 22:54 GMT
#2417
On March 30 2015 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote:
i am NOT voting bh, i am voting sicklucker for now until people tell me otherwise


this guy has 3 pages of filter

look at all the games he has played in how he references his scum meta:

Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 07:53 sicklucker wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Game's been going for longer than 10 minutes and SL has less than 1 page of filter

##vote sicklucker

A++


This is a absolutely terrible read. The only time ive rolled mafia mspaint. I froze up and had a 2-4 page filter day1. Dandred/chezina my mafia partners can verify this. I was super afraid to post early in that game.

I want to scum read ff for it since he was in that game. But he just puts scum on me everygame and im always town. The one time I was mafia he actually laid off me.


Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:57 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:55 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Probably has to do something with the range when mafia is more likely to put their vote on a certain wagon.

Holyflare the Toad - Palmar fest. Does it mean anything?


probably nothing at all, but it kind of reminds me of toad going ham on geript in that game i bussed everyone

yeah me too.
but let's not talk about more of it yet.

Talk to me about sicklucker. I don't understand why people are voting for him.


well he lied/forgot about stuff which i guess isn't indicative but then he put in a spoiler that he should be confirmed by filter length when he used that argument in void or w/e it was and was mafia with a longer filter so i'm kinda just keeping it on him till he does something useful

The logest games he has been alive in are:
TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells Town Vanilla Survived Night 5 (28 pages of filter)
Imperial Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 6 (19 pages)
The Void Mafia Mafia Rolecop Survived Day 5 (52 pages)
Campus Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 7 (35 pages)
VI Titanic Mini Mafia: The Return of MSPaint Mafia Roleblocker Endgamed Day 5 (14 pages)

I think by simple post/phase comparison he is not lying. Like i don't care what he said as scum in Void, but i don't think him saying that here makes him mafia.

i agree he should start being useful.


each time as mafia he has lower page counts


I looked at his the filter lengths from other games and he's put up 8ish pages on day 1 in linux and 11 in slytherin by day 2. He was scum in both and was dead for the rest of those games. He had 8 and 10 in PYP protoss and horn as town for both dying in days 2 and 1 respectively. I'm not sure if we can make a determination just based off of day 1 here. I think it will take longer to figure out based on filter length.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 29 2015 22:54 GMT
#2418
On March 30 2015 07:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 07:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh. Sickulcker seems like such a cop-out vote. I don't see how an anti-town 3rd party is claiming in his situation.


please prove to me how my post is wrong and how it is a cop out, he'd love to afk as mafia under a claim, he's done it before


word for word, you called sicklucker a cop out in pms
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 29 2015 22:54 GMT
#2419
SL is a decent "if in doubt" lynch I guess.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
March 29 2015 22:54 GMT
#2420
(VA best lynch)
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