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Because I haven't really dug into either of your filters. If I am alive tonight I will do for koshi and vivax what I did for obi and yamato. I made a list of 4 people who I think we should lynch into, I established my priorities as yamato and obi first, and did the case on them. I am limited by time and availability otherwise I would tell you a stronger opinion.
If I am going on memory alone. I have a stronger town indicator on Koshi from day 1 than I do from you over the course of the game, but you think I am town and Koshi doesn't seem to think so; which puts me in the gray zone on which one of you I think is mafia. I need to dive filters to find out which, but I don't have the time right now.
I wish I had a stronger opinion with more firm reasons, and tbqh if I was mafia I probably would have a more definitive stance to try and buy one of your votes. But I don't and I won't until I do the leg work in your guys' filters.
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On April 15 2015 07:13 Damdred wrote:
Of course town Koshi is right a lot, but he's wrong to. Marv is right a ton wrong more.
I don't know if necessarily that's indicative at all, or a good heuristic. I'm pretty sure it's not hobestly
Yeah maybe it is a crap reason to have a read, but I can tell you with certainty that when Koshi and HF start voting on towns, I start worrying about them a bit. Regardless of if it is bad, it is a function that occurs in my brain and I am not gonna deny it.
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On April 15 2015 07:22 Vivax wrote:
The HF shitfight
yamato starts out by yelling at HF for calling DR a policy lynch and wanting to lynch him for it.
On April 09 2015 10:52 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 10:51 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not bullying anyone off of dr until he name claims and i make a decision. he isn't going to, and policy lynching a smurf is a shit reason to vote someone make a real decision between actually viable lynches.
this is the kinda fine part of it. it goes on a bit longer during the end of phase because there is a disagreement over who to swap on and if DR is policy or not. i can understand this a bit coming from a town perspective of frustration. it continues a bit and he keeps yelling at HF about him not being policy and whatnot until the end of the day phase. where the shitfight that has 0 reason behind it and he doesn't believe in starts is when it boils into night phase:
On April 09 2015 13:13 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 13:12 Holyflare wrote:On April 09 2015 13:11 yamato77 wrote:
Should have switched to Vivax. So yeh why did you want to switch to your biggest scum read that you pushed forevers scum read? stop being a shitter
On April 10 2015 04:40 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 23:23 Holyflare wrote:
Boo fucking hoo. He only looked towny to me in his FINAL reads post. That was what, 30 mins before deadline and yamato was calling for a scummy switch. you POS I'm fucking murdering you for this shitpost
On April 10 2015 06:28 yamato77 wrote:HF literally typing absolute lies into the thread at this point: Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 05:16 Holyflare wrote:HF was looking town until his game thing wasn't the thing I thought it was. His defense on me is weird and his push on Dread is completely off. Lunching the guy because he didn't reveal his name is silly. And by lunching him, he keeps me alive and the discussion wether I'm Mafia or not goes on. In the other hand, his attempts to tease me by calling me useless and awful sounded townie, since he knows I'm sensible to that shit and if I'm town I would be on his neck for this. This attempt to uncover my alignment looks townie to me. So, I have to evaluate him better. I literally just told you that WAS my intention with the game and you're saying it wasn't? I also did not lynch dread because he didn't reveal his name, I lynched him for being scummy and then because there was no alternative with such short time. If I were to perpetuate the you being called mafia argument I would be feeding people as you being mafia but I'm not. I also don't like your Palmar point because he didn't have double standards he scum read you for not portraying what you think you were portraying with the initial post whereas Eden was nothing like that. Obi read is based on weird shit that isn't even relevant. Damdred is an on read but meh. Your reads are pretty lackluster gb it's not really based on like... points in the game at all, it's a bit hypocritical that you're saying palmar is mafia for picking on only one post but then you are calling him mafia for one post with double standards Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 12:33 Holyflare wrote:
3o minutes till deadline with everyone around is perfect time. Bullshit.
On April 10 2015 06:29 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 12:34 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone that is not dr or gb is new and i don't want to scum lynch any of those people. Eden list post is also total trash lol HF you're so full of shit
On April 10 2015 07:39 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 07:37 Holyflare wrote:On April 10 2015 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
I don't hold a grudge against you yamato. You led the town down the dark path of lynching a towny. It's frustrating and you're taking your anger out on me. I get it, you shirk your own failures onto the next best target that is under pressure. You're a coward. It's ok. I don't hold it against you. I'm not going to needlessly call you mafia for organising the mislynch and forcing people into it. I played a part in it to and I put my own resent for idiots ahead of a mafia lynch. I admit that. Shhhh now. Sleep young one.
I shall lead you to redemption. Does this look like i scum read yamato at all palmar? You even asked if i did and I said he was towny all day. Why lie again? Pretty shallow list of reasoning for everyone you have their palmar. you're too much of a pussy to scumread me you'll just call me bad and question my decision making gj
it goes on and on and on and on until HF is dead. honestly i think all this is about is HF called yamato bad and yamato just spams the thread calling him a shitter. and even before that it might have started with HF calling yamato's case a policy case which yamato took as an insult. that's the motivation i am reading, there isn't much game solving going on at all. it is a fight to fight.
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I have to go now for a bit, I will be back again hopefully before the deadline.
I think I have sufficiently proven how town I am.
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On April 24 2015 13:04 Damdred wrote:
Thoughts go out to ritoky and his wife and hope the pregnancy complications are going better glad I could bring it home for you bud
thanks for the carry damdy :D that's 5 or 6 consecutive wins as mafia for me now i think, when do i get to make the top players list? ;P kinda upset that i played so well early and it got utterly derailed by life, but them the jams sometimes i suppose. sorry for not being able to make it through that last day, i almost got obi to flip on me 
thanks for the thoughts, hopefully by the 1st of may much of the problems will be sorted out at least for the 2nd trimester and i can potentially have enough peace of mind to play again....and roll mafia again.....but then again even though i like it less i apparently win a lot so, dunno.
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I also wanted to comment somewhere, so I guess here is as good a place as any; that I think there is legitimately something beneficial to a mafia team that gets along, communicates in a positive manner, and actively plans as a team and not as individuals. Having seen some and been in some games of mafia QTs with yelling, fighting over night actions, people saying "i can't do x cuz it ruins my game" instead of thinking for the team, and the like; I hope more people who roll mafia try to work in their QT in a more positive and team oriented manner of communication....unless I roll town, then shitfight and play bad in your QT 
Basically be nice and unselfish as mafia in your QT and it seems to lead to higher success rates.
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