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On April 14 2015 13:21 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. xP that doesn't tell me what you think about shining lol and whether you agree or not, some players don't read the thread as scum, or at least claim they don't. whether it's good play or not doesn't really matter? unless this argument has any bearing on shining's alignment i don't see why we're discussing it again -_-
ha forgot that part. I liked the little content he had, but yeah why hasn't he produced like he said he would?
How long do we give these lurker players to be town? Why does it feel like town is just eating town right now?
If we are going to lynch a lurker type player, I want to kill Dwarf.
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On April 14 2015 13:23 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. I mean, everyone makes errors. And no one can remember every detail, most players forget most of the details. My point is that, you know who scum is, and you have scum teammates in the scum QT who can help you. They can tell you the thread sentiment, who the main town players are, who they are currently pushing, etc. Like, I imagine that they could basically tell you where your reads should be at the start of the game with basic reasons for each one, and then that could be posted without having carefully read the thread at all. Clearly he can't admit to not have read the thread (or tried to) here, but I do think he could fake it (this doesn't work if someone analyzes him really well, but good analysis is hard to do). A town replacement is under pressure to produce content just as much as a scum replacement is. The Shining's inactivity is definitely scummy, but I would still expect the scum team to give him some kind of ground to stand on (unless they're giving him up for dead, or they aren't very competent, or my analysis of how scum teams should work is completely wrong).
considering he made some preliminary reads i think you're just not aware of the context at this point xP do i need to shoo you back to reading the thread again? (or asking your scum qt mates, as the case may be? lolol)
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On April 14 2015 13:23 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. I mean, everyone makes errors. And no one can remember every detail, most players forget most of the details. My point is that, you know who scum is, and you have scum teammates in the scum QT who can help you. They can tell you the thread sentiment, who the main town players are, who they are currently pushing, etc. Like, I imagine that they could basically tell you where your reads should be at the start of the game with basic reasons for each one, and then that could be posted without having carefully read the thread at all. Clearly he can't admit to not have read the thread (or tried to) here, but I do think he could fake it (this doesn't work if someone analyzes him really well, but good analysis is hard to do). A town replacement is under pressure to produce content just as much as a scum replacement is. The Shining's inactivity is definitely scummy, but I would still expect the scum team to give him some kind of ground to stand on (unless they're giving him up for dead, or they aren't very competent, or my analysis of how scum teams should work is completely wrong).
That makes sense. He can be spoonfed the answers. Should have thought of that.
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Ugh this day got away from me xD taxes are evil. Also, HTS might not be that evil, questions for HTS:
1. Who is your top scum target? Bourneq? Onegu? Tube? Stutters? If you say Onegu we have a problem. Granted, I think #2 on your case might be viable, but I think you blew that case out of proportion. If you don't mind putting out a top 2 or something that would help me understand where you stand?
Since EOD happens before I return from work I'm going to put up a tier list and a vote right now.
List: lower you are the scummier I think you are even in categories
IF I had to say you were town:
Breshke- not most vocal but reads are pretty good and I liked D2 play.
Townleans
Stutters- Still think he's town. If HTS clears her name and PRP gets more towny I'm completely wrong...
Trf/Onegu- Onegu was on drugs + funny. HTS's case on him was good, but it didn't convince me he's scum. Trf seems like superTrf like my last game with him.
Rso- Didn't dominate D1. Did more D2. Interactions with her didn't draw red flags, but she could fool me in a heartbeat
Unlynchables
Shining- Ace was questionable. Shining's gone. Excuse? Idk. Literal null for me prob. We shall see.
Tube- On Stutter wagon (lolz) and seemed to be TR or not read much. And he dissed the list. Tinfoil tunnel seemed genuine though. And HTS's case on him was weakest by far.
Bourneq- I didn't get much chance to go through him, but HTS's case on him I thought was her strongest. Especially the policy over the hard scumread. Plus he's the guy I keep forgetting is playing.
HTS- unless her top two scumreads strikes a nerve I don't want to lynch. Some pretty good analysis and I liked the D1 analysis more as I went through it. I could see how her EOD story is believable, just not sure to believe it or not...
Lynchables
Dwarf- Scummy D1 play + on Stutter train + earlier case I posted + 0 scumhunting + policy + no real danger of lynched?
Prp- I wish I got to this. If I magically have free time tomorrow I will make a case. If not pretend I did and check him. Red flag + worse filter than HTS + earlier case I posted + on my list for most TR
##vote: Prp
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I'll try to check back in at lunchtime to make my vote relevant if it isn't
Sorry again... bad EOD time for me unfortunately...i think? Its 430pm ET right?
i'll be on for a few secs while im brushing my teeth if you are confused/concerned.
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5pm your time pretty sure jjb
question for when you get back:
why is hts so low given your assessment of her? lol
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On April 14 2015 13:30 jarjarbinks wrote:
I'll try to check back in at lunchtime to make my vote relevant if it isn't
Sorry again... bad EOD time for me unfortunately...i think? Its 430pm ET right?
i'll be on for a few secs while im brushing my teeth if you are confused/concerned. I believe it is 5:00 PM EDT.
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On April 14 2015 13:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:19 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:15 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. lol >< true i know i don't cause i'd get caught in a new york minute but lol he replaced in before EoD though so i mean, at some point that excuse stops being valid i brought it up less because of the afk bit and more because while bourne is being discussed, shining isn't, which i find odd. plus lol you can't really argue that his post today was...i mean, what's even the point of posting? I'm queasy on Prplhz right now. Do you really think that he can't act like he is this game as scum? lol tbh i've seen him play scum once, so if he was just exceptionally bad that game my opinion is completely skewed, however he looks townie separate of the meta, too. i've already mentioned how he took the lead on the thread, his questions were pointed, his reads have been fluid throughout the game... like i see the arguments but i don't see why they make him scum? so he decided not to lynch plot for acting "weird" and he's always maintained that he doesn't want to lynch dwarf for acting weird...at least he's consistent? what's making you queasy?
It's dumb. I have trouble with hypocriticalness sometimes but theres times I'll be hypocritical. I don't see what's so different from Dwarfs play and Plots. Prp towned Dwarf right away, but was on Plot hard from the git go and didn't start questioning it till about 4 hours or so prior to end of day when he had 7 votes or so.
but they were in many ways playing the same. Same with Bourneq, scummed him hard fro mthe get go and floated it out there earlier today to lynch Bourneq.
Prp also essentially said that even if Dwarf does nothing new he will still be towned. I understand a day or 2 pass even but uh the game?
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On April 14 2015 13:26 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:21 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. xP that doesn't tell me what you think about shining lol and whether you agree or not, some players don't read the thread as scum, or at least claim they don't. whether it's good play or not doesn't really matter? unless this argument has any bearing on shining's alignment i don't see why we're discussing it again -_- ha forgot that part. I liked the little content he had, but yeah why hasn't he produced like he said he would? How long do we give these lurker players to be town? Why does it feel like town is just eating town right now?If we are going to lynch a lurker type player, I want to kill Dwarf.
??
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On April 14 2015 13:28 jarjarbinks wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Ugh this day got away from me xD taxes are evil. Also, HTS might not be that evil, questions for HTS:
1. Who is your top scum target? Bourneq? Onegu? Tube? Stutters? If you say Onegu we have a problem. Granted, I think #2 on your case might be viable, but I think you blew that case out of proportion. If you don't mind putting out a top 2 or something that would help me understand where you stand?
Since EOD happens before I return from work I'm going to put up a tier list and a vote right now.
List: lower you are the scummier I think you are even in categories
IF I had to say you were town:
Breshke- not most vocal but reads are pretty good and I liked D2 play.
Townleans
Stutters- Still think he's town. If HTS clears her name and PRP gets more towny I'm completely wrong...
Trf/Onegu- Onegu was on drugs + funny. HTS's case on him was good, but it didn't convince me he's scum. Trf seems like superTrf like my last game with him.
Rso- Didn't dominate D1. Did more D2. Interactions with her didn't draw red flags, but she could fool me in a heartbeat
Unlynchables
Shining- Ace was questionable. Shining's gone. Excuse? Idk. Literal null for me prob. We shall see. Tube- On Stutter wagon (lolz) and seemed to be TR or not read much. And he dissed the list. Tinfoil tunnel seemed genuine though. And HTS's case on him was weakest by far. + Show Spoiler +Bourneq- I didn't get much chance to go through him, but HTS's case on him I thought was her strongest. Especially the policy over the hard scumread. Plus he's the guy I keep forgetting is playing.
HTS- unless her top two scumreads strikes a nerve I don't want to lynch. Some pretty good analysis and I liked the D1 analysis more as I went through it. I could see how her EOD story is believable, just not sure to believe it or not...
Lynchables
Dwarf- Scummy D1 play + on Stutter train + earlier case I posted + 0 scumhunting + policy + no real danger of lynched?
Prp- I wish I got to this. If I magically have free time tomorrow I will make a case. If not pretend I did and check him. Red flag + worse filter than HTS + earlier case I posted + on my list for most TR
##vote: Prp
I dissed the list?
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On April 14 2015 13:32 rsoultin wrote:
5pm your time pretty sure jjb
question for when you get back:
why is hts so low given your assessment of her? lol
Did my assessment seem that nice? I think there was some points to scum her, they just didn't make up the strongest case and her later posts probably made up some ground. I'm still not sure I believe why she switched votes. She was still in that group of people not really being read at all and her better cases were after she was being voted on, granted she can't do much about that. Sometimes it seemed she was stretching it a bit too, like her case on tube. It looked like she was spinning the case while leaving out information that severely weakened her case.
Still she's higher than she was before I checked her
thanks for the help. Maybe i'll get lucky and can get on my phone after work before 5.
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On April 14 2015 13:39 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:28 jarjarbinks wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Ugh this day got away from me xD taxes are evil. Also, HTS might not be that evil, questions for HTS:
1. Who is your top scum target? Bourneq? Onegu? Tube? Stutters? If you say Onegu we have a problem. Granted, I think #2 on your case might be viable, but I think you blew that case out of proportion. If you don't mind putting out a top 2 or something that would help me understand where you stand?
Since EOD happens before I return from work I'm going to put up a tier list and a vote right now.
List: lower you are the scummier I think you are even in categories
IF I had to say you were town:
Breshke- not most vocal but reads are pretty good and I liked D2 play.
Townleans
Stutters- Still think he's town. If HTS clears her name and PRP gets more towny I'm completely wrong...
Trf/Onegu- Onegu was on drugs + funny. HTS's case on him was good, but it didn't convince me he's scum. Trf seems like superTrf like my last game with him.
Rso- Didn't dominate D1. Did more D2. Interactions with her didn't draw red flags, but she could fool me in a heartbeat
Unlynchables
Shining- Ace was questionable. Shining's gone. Excuse? Idk. Literal null for me prob. We shall see. Tube- On Stutter wagon (lolz) and seemed to be TR or not read much. And he dissed the list. Tinfoil tunnel seemed genuine though. And HTS's case on him was weakest by far. + Show Spoiler +Bourneq- I didn't get much chance to go through him, but HTS's case on him I thought was her strongest. Especially the policy over the hard scumread. Plus he's the guy I keep forgetting is playing.
HTS- unless her top two scumreads strikes a nerve I don't want to lynch. Some pretty good analysis and I liked the D1 analysis more as I went through it. I could see how her EOD story is believable, just not sure to believe it or not...
Lynchables
Dwarf- Scummy D1 play + on Stutter train + earlier case I posted + 0 scumhunting + policy + no real danger of lynched?
Prp- I wish I got to this. If I magically have free time tomorrow I will make a case. If not pretend I did and check him. Red flag + worse filter than HTS + earlier case I posted + on my list for most TR
##vote: Prp I dissed the list?
Ya dude. Don't diss the list bro lol
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On April 14 2015 13:33 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:26 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:21 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. xP that doesn't tell me what you think about shining lol and whether you agree or not, some players don't read the thread as scum, or at least claim they don't. whether it's good play or not doesn't really matter? unless this argument has any bearing on shining's alignment i don't see why we're discussing it again -_- ha forgot that part. I liked the little content he had, but yeah why hasn't he produced like he said he would? How long do we give these lurker players to be town? Why does it feel like town is just eating town right now?If we are going to lynch a lurker type player, I want to kill Dwarf. ??
I just have weird bad feelings. I just think with like 5 lurkers about how angry I'm going to be if we have 3 lurker mafias who thought Soren was the towniest player so NK his slot but HF enters and the rest of us are like "holy shit obviously a vet is on the mafia team!"
I missed it, you voting Shining?
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On April 14 2015 13:42 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:32 rsoultin wrote:
5pm your time pretty sure jjb
question for when you get back:
why is hts so low given your assessment of her? lol Did my assessment seem that nice? I think there was some points to scum her, they just didn't make up the strongest case and her later posts probably made up some ground. I'm still not sure I believe why she switched votes. She was still in that group of people not really being read at all and her better cases were after she was being voted on, granted she can't do much about that. Sometimes it seemed she was stretching it a bit too, like her case on tube. It looked like she was spinning the case while leaving out information that severely weakened her case. Still she's higher than she was before I checked her thanks for the help. Maybe i'll get lucky and can get on my phone after work before 5.
heh alright lol yeah i think you left some of that out in your reads list
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On April 13 2015 14:17 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 13:51 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 13 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote:On April 13 2015 07:54 jarjarbinks wrote:
Wow....hope to actually play with you next time HF.
Reasons why HF was killed that I can think of
1. HF can read another vet well or is good at this game? I have no experience with the guy
2. Scum doesn't want to reveal anything
3. Scum is not worried about anyone so far
#2 is probably most likely...if anyone think #3 is very possible we might need to check our highly townread people in the game (bresh? tube?) or doublecheck at the highly scumread right now (dwarf? stutters?) this post was interesting to me have you looked into who you think is scum given the second option yet? I started it, im super behind on my reads sheet so I tried to go with whoever it appeared were each persons top 3 scum. It has a lot of issues with is but in general there were some people who weren't being scummed much and some people who were being towned a ton. People who weren't on top town or top scum the most: Onegu HTS JJB Tube People who were top 3 town most: Prp Tube Bresh JJB Granted, this analysis has flaws. And note I AM ON BOTH, so if anything it I'm showing that I am not altering the analysis AT ALL. I think if I had my reads stuff updated this would be better, and there was a few people that it was hard to tell who their top scum/town were while others it was easier to ascertain. You are leaving out percentages! Am I at 89% or 90%? Haha sorry I thought I was really funny and didn't realize I was being a dick during that game. Sorry I murdered you. How do I use this information?
First line: HILARIOUS. I literally laughed. It was great.
"How do i use this information?" ITS A TOOL! USE IT! you might as well have said, this list serves no point to nobody lol
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On April 14 2015 13:43 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:33 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:26 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:21 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. xP that doesn't tell me what you think about shining lol and whether you agree or not, some players don't read the thread as scum, or at least claim they don't. whether it's good play or not doesn't really matter? unless this argument has any bearing on shining's alignment i don't see why we're discussing it again -_- ha forgot that part. I liked the little content he had, but yeah why hasn't he produced like he said he would? How long do we give these lurker players to be town? Why does it feel like town is just eating town right now?If we are going to lynch a lurker type player, I want to kill Dwarf. ?? I just have weird bad feelings. I just think with like 5 lurkers about how angry I'm going to be if we have 3 lurker mafias who thought Soren was the towniest player so NK his slot but HF enters and the rest of us are like "holy shit obviously a vet is on the mafia team!" I missed it, you voting Shining? Yeah, sorry, the night kill doesn't really suggest this at all. Remember, this is a newbie game.
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I gotta crash i'll see yall tomorro
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On April 14 2015 13:43 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:33 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:26 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:21 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. xP that doesn't tell me what you think about shining lol and whether you agree or not, some players don't read the thread as scum, or at least claim they don't. whether it's good play or not doesn't really matter? unless this argument has any bearing on shining's alignment i don't see why we're discussing it again -_- ha forgot that part. I liked the little content he had, but yeah why hasn't he produced like he said he would? How long do we give these lurker players to be town? Why does it feel like town is just eating town right now?If we are going to lynch a lurker type player, I want to kill Dwarf. ?? I just have weird bad feelings. I just think with like 5 lurkers about how angry I'm going to be if we have 3 lurker mafias who thought Soren was the towniest player so NK his slot but HF enters and the rest of us are like "holy shit obviously a vet is on the mafia team!" I missed it, you voting Shining?
nah, ise being mysterious!
(see prp now you have to townread me xP)
if you put a gun to my head and said pick your lurker lynch, though, i think shining has a higher probability of flipping scum than bourneq (based mostly on the townie posts i posted earlier) and dwarf (i don't get the hard townread really, but i do still get that floundering newbie feel from him lol ><)
shining just...okay it always bugs me when people promise things then don't deliver, plus i know for a fact being lurkery is part of how he plays scum. like the difference between the newbie games i played with him (i can look up the numbers if you want them) and student V where he was scum was pretty much night and day lol ><
outside the lurkers, still weighing half-the-sky and bresh honestly...his day 1 was pretty damn good and maybe it's just cause he kept disagreeing with me lol >< but it just seems like he hasn't brought much to day 2 at all
beyond that, stutters' close-to-the-vest play is getting less interesting and more aggravating (in b4 this becomes about the potential blue soft), again probably because the one thing he's really pushing (prp) i don't agree with ><
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On April 14 2015 13:45 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 14:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 13 2015 13:51 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 13 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote:On April 13 2015 07:54 jarjarbinks wrote:
Wow....hope to actually play with you next time HF.
Reasons why HF was killed that I can think of
1. HF can read another vet well or is good at this game? I have no experience with the guy
2. Scum doesn't want to reveal anything
3. Scum is not worried about anyone so far
#2 is probably most likely...if anyone think #3 is very possible we might need to check our highly townread people in the game (bresh? tube?) or doublecheck at the highly scumread right now (dwarf? stutters?) this post was interesting to me have you looked into who you think is scum given the second option yet? I started it, im super behind on my reads sheet so I tried to go with whoever it appeared were each persons top 3 scum. It has a lot of issues with is but in general there were some people who weren't being scummed much and some people who were being towned a ton. People who weren't on top town or top scum the most: Onegu HTS JJB Tube People who were top 3 town most: Prp Tube Bresh JJB Granted, this analysis has flaws. And note I AM ON BOTH, so if anything it I'm showing that I am not altering the analysis AT ALL. I think if I had my reads stuff updated this would be better, and there was a few people that it was hard to tell who their top scum/town were while others it was easier to ascertain. You are leaving out percentages! Am I at 89% or 90%? Haha sorry I thought I was really funny and didn't realize I was being a dick during that game. Sorry I murdered you. How do I use this information? First line: HILARIOUS. I literally laughed. It was great. "How do i use this information?" ITS A TOOL! USE IT! you might as well have said, this list serves no point to nobody lol
Ahhh well I didn't mean that I just didn't know how I was going to apply that.
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On April 14 2015 13:47 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:43 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:33 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:26 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:21 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. xP that doesn't tell me what you think about shining lol and whether you agree or not, some players don't read the thread as scum, or at least claim they don't. whether it's good play or not doesn't really matter? unless this argument has any bearing on shining's alignment i don't see why we're discussing it again -_- ha forgot that part. I liked the little content he had, but yeah why hasn't he produced like he said he would? How long do we give these lurker players to be town? Why does it feel like town is just eating town right now?If we are going to lynch a lurker type player, I want to kill Dwarf. ?? I just have weird bad feelings. I just think with like 5 lurkers about how angry I'm going to be if we have 3 lurker mafias who thought Soren was the towniest player so NK his slot but HF enters and the rest of us are like "holy shit obviously a vet is on the mafia team!" I missed it, you voting Shining? Yeah, sorry, the night kill doesn't really suggest this at all. Remember, this is a newbie game.
Uh that was my point. sometime in the thread multiple people said that HF was NK'd which meant there's a vet on the scum team. I will admit I also think there's a vet on the mafia team but that has just as much to do with RNG probablilites as it does HF dying. It's just as easy that there are 3 vets on the mafia team too but we do have a bunch of lurkers.
Anyway, what do you think about Dwarf? If you said something about it I missed it.
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