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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 12 2015 19:09 GMT
#1001
On April 13 2015 04:04 prplhz wrote:
list of people i'm not lynching tomorrow because of things they said today: dwarf

this going through newbies and lynching them for saying weird things is ... dumb. yea i said it.


xP very unlikely we have a whole scumteam full of newbies, yeah

but shining looks fine so far...he's the inactive type as scum so reading and commenting at all directly after replacing has him leaning town for me

bourne i still think looks okay? his ideas are a touch strange to me lol >< but he seems to believe them

what exactly did dwarf say that makes you so certain he's town, prp?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 19:11 GMT
#1002
On April 13 2015 04:02 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 03:57 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:49 rsoultin wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:36 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:12 Tubesock wrote:
The vote was 6-2 until 12:55 favoring Plotspot. It had Prplhz and I on Stutters695.

at 12:55 TheBloodyDwarf voted Stutters695. That post only had the vote in it. His previous post was at 9:50 talking about how he loves me. For the record I buy the :D vs explanation. Buuuuuttttttt still no scumhunting....

There were people around talking a couple hours prior to EoD. It was not a dead thread.

Possible explanations:

1. lurking about waiting to see how the vote goes. Sees a counterwagon on Stutters and goes for it. Regardless of Stutters alignment I think Dwarf could make this vote. Now that it's 20 some hours after, I see the actual numbers and think that he probably knew what the vote count was and realized that Stutters is safe from being lynched. There were 4 minutes left, when he voted. Not much time to drop that many votes.

Stutters can be town or mafia in this position. It doesn't matter. But TheBloodyDwarf sees a reason to move to him as there was a shenany. And of course I think this is a mindfuckTube game.

2. He could have legitimately realized he needed to vote and placed it. Why did he wait? Why not at 9:50 when he said his only scum read was Stutters695? Why'd he wait till 4 minutes left in the day?


How aware are you guys of the deadline? I mean I will vote somewhat early if I am out and about and can potentially miss the deadline. I get it that if I KNOW I'll be around and don't have any real life things scheduled that placing that vote isn't so important. But I'll be in the thread. I would NEVER have 2 posts in 3 hours prior to deadline if I was there the entire time.

Anyway, I'm going to dive Stutters deeper. I probably shouldn't scum him because he thinks 2 of my top towns are scum.


mmm if that's true tube (i haven't double-checked yet) then yeah...last-minute votes on the counter-train would make sense from a bussing standpoint...though i'd argue that a town stutters makes that less likely just 'cause late voting draws attention, and it's not really any better than a wasted vote xP

that said, i'm home! lol and yeah kinda tired honestly, so i'll stick around to talk until EoN then prob take a nap


I'm missing the bussing thing everyone is so focused on. I'm saying that Dwarf could safely bus Stutters in that situation, or switch to town stutters to gain not killing town cred, or fucking with my mind so I ended up voting with my top scumreads "scum" read.


-sits on tube's tinfoil hat-

there was something about bussing when everyone thought plot was scum? and then i think some players are talking about bussing not realizing what it is...i'm not really following completely, either

honestly this speculation is cool and all but it's not gonna really get us anywhere since stutters' alignment isn't known. prob best to just stick to what makes people scummy xP that isn't reliant on stutters' alignment


Ahhh that's why I'm missing it. People, you can't bus a town...mafia onto Plotspots is NOT bussing. That's called a miss lynch.

Assuming you're talking to me about my speculation, my thoughts don't have anything related to what Stutters alignment is. It actually doesn't matter what his alignment is. It still makes me think Dwarf is even scummier than I did yesterday.

What do you think about Stutters695?


eh, tiny filter, like some of the analysis and the 4 scumreads test thing lol...i don't really think that the vote 15 hours after saying he'd look into plot after plot claimed scum is actually significant? like it could be opportunistic or just stutters' voting a scumread who claimed scum -shrugs-

i dunnae i think there's more likely mafia than him, dwarf included. you still think dwarf is godfather trying to be cop-checked?


I do think that stutters saw the scumclaim and was like, why bother wasting any more effort.

I can't help it I do kinda think that Dwarf is Godfather. While instead of a huge likelyhood of it, now it's fairly a minor possibility. Prp and Bresh's points were solid. It's insanity. But I can't shake he's mafia.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 12 2015 19:13 GMT
#1003
On April 13 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 04:04 prplhz wrote:
list of people i'm not lynching tomorrow because of things they said today: dwarf

this going through newbies and lynching them for saying weird things is ... dumb. yea i said it.


xP very unlikely we have a whole scumteam full of newbies, yeah

but shining looks fine so far...he's the inactive type as scum so reading and commenting at all directly after replacing has him leaning town for me

bourne i still think looks okay? his ideas are a touch strange to me lol >< but he seems to believe them

what exactly did dwarf say that makes you so certain he's town, prp?

what's wrong with the stuff i wrote on dwarf so far?
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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 19:15 GMT
#1004
On April 13 2015 04:07 prplhz wrote:
what? that's not what i'm saying at all.


Uh I thought you said Stutters voted Plot for martying. I dont' think that's the entire reason but I'm sure it's part of it. Although I think it's more he scum claimed.

You're saying voting someone for martying is bad play right? I agree. I also don't like martyrdoming. I think it's bad play to vote someone for it and to do it. It's a less asshole thing to do than modkilling yourself.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 12 2015 19:16 GMT
#1005
On April 13 2015 04:11 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 04:02 rsoultin wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:57 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:49 rsoultin wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:36 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:12 Tubesock wrote:
The vote was 6-2 until 12:55 favoring Plotspot. It had Prplhz and I on Stutters695.

at 12:55 TheBloodyDwarf voted Stutters695. That post only had the vote in it. His previous post was at 9:50 talking about how he loves me. For the record I buy the :D vs explanation. Buuuuuttttttt still no scumhunting....

There were people around talking a couple hours prior to EoD. It was not a dead thread.

Possible explanations:

1. lurking about waiting to see how the vote goes. Sees a counterwagon on Stutters and goes for it. Regardless of Stutters alignment I think Dwarf could make this vote. Now that it's 20 some hours after, I see the actual numbers and think that he probably knew what the vote count was and realized that Stutters is safe from being lynched. There were 4 minutes left, when he voted. Not much time to drop that many votes.

Stutters can be town or mafia in this position. It doesn't matter. But TheBloodyDwarf sees a reason to move to him as there was a shenany. And of course I think this is a mindfuckTube game.

2. He could have legitimately realized he needed to vote and placed it. Why did he wait? Why not at 9:50 when he said his only scum read was Stutters695? Why'd he wait till 4 minutes left in the day?


How aware are you guys of the deadline? I mean I will vote somewhat early if I am out and about and can potentially miss the deadline. I get it that if I KNOW I'll be around and don't have any real life things scheduled that placing that vote isn't so important. But I'll be in the thread. I would NEVER have 2 posts in 3 hours prior to deadline if I was there the entire time.

Anyway, I'm going to dive Stutters deeper. I probably shouldn't scum him because he thinks 2 of my top towns are scum.


mmm if that's true tube (i haven't double-checked yet) then yeah...last-minute votes on the counter-train would make sense from a bussing standpoint...though i'd argue that a town stutters makes that less likely just 'cause late voting draws attention, and it's not really any better than a wasted vote xP

that said, i'm home! lol and yeah kinda tired honestly, so i'll stick around to talk until EoN then prob take a nap


I'm missing the bussing thing everyone is so focused on. I'm saying that Dwarf could safely bus Stutters in that situation, or switch to town stutters to gain not killing town cred, or fucking with my mind so I ended up voting with my top scumreads "scum" read.


-sits on tube's tinfoil hat-

there was something about bussing when everyone thought plot was scum? and then i think some players are talking about bussing not realizing what it is...i'm not really following completely, either

honestly this speculation is cool and all but it's not gonna really get us anywhere since stutters' alignment isn't known. prob best to just stick to what makes people scummy xP that isn't reliant on stutters' alignment


Ahhh that's why I'm missing it. People, you can't bus a town...mafia onto Plotspots is NOT bussing. That's called a miss lynch.

Assuming you're talking to me about my speculation, my thoughts don't have anything related to what Stutters alignment is. It actually doesn't matter what his alignment is. It still makes me think Dwarf is even scummier than I did yesterday.

What do you think about Stutters695?


eh, tiny filter, like some of the analysis and the 4 scumreads test thing lol...i don't really think that the vote 15 hours after saying he'd look into plot after plot claimed scum is actually significant? like it could be opportunistic or just stutters' voting a scumread who claimed scum -shrugs-

i dunnae i think there's more likely mafia than him, dwarf included. you still think dwarf is godfather trying to be cop-checked?


I do think that stutters saw the scumclaim and was like, why bother wasting any more effort.

I can't help it I do kinda think that Dwarf is Godfather. While instead of a huge likelyhood of it, now it's fairly a minor possibility. Prp and Bresh's points were solid. It's insanity. But I can't shake he's mafia.


tbh i pretty much read that whole thing as joking around and someone used to relying on blues and nothing else for information lol >< his lack of reads up to this point is what bugs me most, not some of the weird things he's said. i think i've mentioned this before, but my starkingdoms buddies tend to be very...depressive...about day one's before any solid info is available, so i think that's pretty normal for newbies? when i started i know i thought day 1 was a complete crapshoot
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 12 2015 19:16 GMT
#1006
On April 13 2015 04:15 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 04:07 prplhz wrote:
what? that's not what i'm saying at all.


Uh I thought you said Stutters voted Plot for martying. I dont' think that's the entire reason but I'm sure it's part of it. Although I think it's more he scum claimed.

You're saying voting someone for martying is bad play right? I agree. I also don't like martyrdoming. I think it's bad play to vote someone for it and to do it. It's a less asshole thing to do than modkilling yourself.

hmm okay then.

claiming scum and martyring is the same though. and stutters voted plot because plot claimed scum.

even if claiming scum and martyring isn't the same then it's the same for the purpose of the argument i'm making (that voting some for martyring/claiming scum is bad play)
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 12 2015 19:17 GMT
#1007
On April 13 2015 04:04 prplhz wrote:
list of people i'm not lynching tomorrow because of things they said today: dwarf

this going through newbies and lynching them for saying weird things is ... dumb. yea i said it.


??

i thought this meant he said something during the night phase that was very townie to you?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 12 2015 19:18 GMT
#1008
On April 13 2015 04:17 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 04:04 prplhz wrote:
list of people i'm not lynching tomorrow because of things they said today: dwarf

this going through newbies and lynching them for saying weird things is ... dumb. yea i said it.


??

i thought this meant he said something during the night phase that was very townie to you?

uh no like, d1 and n1 ... did he even say something n1 though? doesn't matter.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 12 2015 19:19 GMT
#1009
like maybe i should have said "this cycle" instead of "today" which is already a confusing word as it can mean d1 and this 24 hour period in whatever timezone.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 12 2015 19:19 GMT
#1010
On April 13 2015 04:16 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 04:15 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 04:07 prplhz wrote:
what? that's not what i'm saying at all.


Uh I thought you said Stutters voted Plot for martying. I dont' think that's the entire reason but I'm sure it's part of it. Although I think it's more he scum claimed.

You're saying voting someone for martying is bad play right? I agree. I also don't like martyrdoming. I think it's bad play to vote someone for it and to do it. It's a less asshole thing to do than modkilling yourself.

hmm okay then.

claiming scum and martyring is the same though. and stutters voted plot because plot claimed scum.

even if claiming scum and martyring isn't the same then it's the same for the purpose of the argument i'm making (that voting some for martyring/claiming scum is bad play)


lol i don't know that i follow this train of thought ><

maybe it's just cause i'm bad as scum, but i've only martyred as scum

- horn, told the vig to shoot me or koshi (scummate)
- titanic, martyred with the double jk claims being mod-confirmed

what makes voting for people claiming scum bad play?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 12 2015 19:19 GMT
#1011
On April 13 2015 03:12 Tubesock wrote:
The vote was 6-2 until 12:55 favoring Plotspot. It had Prplhz and I on Stutters695.

at 12:55 TheBloodyDwarf voted Stutters695. That post only had the vote in it. His previous post was at 9:50 talking about how he loves me. For the record I buy the :D vs explanation. Buuuuuttttttt still no scumhunting....

There were people around talking a couple hours prior to EoD. It was not a dead thread.

Possible explanations:

1. lurking about waiting to see how the vote goes. Sees a counterwagon on Stutters and goes for it. Regardless of Stutters alignment I think Dwarf could make this vote. Now that it's 20 some hours after, I see the actual numbers and think that he probably knew what the vote count was and realized that Stutters is safe from being lynched. There were 4 minutes left, when he voted. Not much time to drop that many votes.

Stutters can be town or mafia in this position. It doesn't matter. But TheBloodyDwarf sees a reason to move to him as there was a shenany. And of course I think this is a mindfuckTube game.

2. He could have legitimately realized he needed to vote and placed it. Why did he wait? Why not at 9:50 when he said his only scum read was Stutters695? Why'd he wait till 4 minutes left in the day?


How aware are you guys of the deadline? I mean I will vote somewhat early if I am out and about and can potentially miss the deadline. I get it that if I KNOW I'll be around and don't have any real life things scheduled that placing that vote isn't so important. But I'll be in the thread. I would NEVER have 2 posts in 3 hours prior to deadline if I was there the entire time.

Anyway, I'm going to dive Stutters deeper. I probably shouldn't scum him because he thinks 2 of my top towns are scum.

Well, there is no way to prove this but since this post I decided to vote for Stutter
On April 11 2015 23:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 22:32 rsoultin wrote:
O.o

Tube moving up lol but dude i think you may be high on something xP not a huge fan of narratives anyway. yours at least had me laughing?

dwarf could you please give reads? even if you like arent sure on any of them?

prp read is in part knowing him but mostly the nature of his posts. hes aggressive, has made some sharp comments/observations, and his reads adapt to what is going on in the thread rather than remaining static lol

you...returning to prp scumread after its poinyed out that you seemed to drop it, plus some of those posts that are pure commentary...id be happy to lynch you today >< what do you think about that?

I dont find anybody really suspicious..

Stutters695. Checking his filter and I mostly see questions. Looks like he doesn't really have own opinion but is asking others what do they think.

btw, I dont like you Tubesock, you have been chasing me from the beginning

Before this I was going to vote for Ace.

Last time I checked thread was ~21:00 and went to play heroes I was checking clock after games but I still almost forgot to vote

Why I didnt vote before 21:00? I wanted to see if anything new comes up.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 12 2015 19:20 GMT
#1012
what i'm saying is that dwarf is looking townie so far and i'm not going to lynch him tomorrow unless something new happens that radically changes how i feel about him. which i consider highly unlikely.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 12 2015 19:20 GMT
#1013
On April 13 2015 04:18 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 04:17 rsoultin wrote:
On April 13 2015 04:04 prplhz wrote:
list of people i'm not lynching tomorrow because of things they said today: dwarf

this going through newbies and lynching them for saying weird things is ... dumb. yea i said it.


??

i thought this meant he said something during the night phase that was very townie to you?

uh no like, d1 and n1 ... did he even say something n1 though? doesn't matter.


:/ still not clear

so you're just saying you don't want to vote him for saying weird things? or there's a specific thing he said that makes you not want to vote him?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 12 2015 19:20 GMT
#1014
Welcome Holyflare
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 12 2015 19:22 GMT
#1015
On April 13 2015 04:20 prplhz wrote:
what i'm saying is that dwarf is looking townie so far and i'm not going to lynch him tomorrow unless something new happens that radically changes how i feel about him. which i consider highly unlikely.


ah okay..i need to reread everyone but it's not happening before my nap -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 19:23 GMT
#1016
On April 13 2015 04:16 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 04:15 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 04:07 prplhz wrote:
what? that's not what i'm saying at all.


Uh I thought you said Stutters voted Plot for martying. I dont' think that's the entire reason but I'm sure it's part of it. Although I think it's more he scum claimed.

You're saying voting someone for martying is bad play right? I agree. I also don't like martyrdoming. I think it's bad play to vote someone for it and to do it. It's a less asshole thing to do than modkilling yourself.

hmm okay then.

claiming scum and martyring is the same though. and stutters voted plot because plot claimed scum.

even if claiming scum and martyring isn't the same then it's the same for the purpose of the argument i'm making (that voting some for martyring/claiming scum is bad play)


I think we are on the same page here.

I followed you to Stutters. I wanted Plot to stay alive to figure out what he was doing. It didn't look like a scum play to me from him. It looked like him trying to get peoples attention to have them look deeper into him and talk with him. His whole ^^ stuff that was a breadcrumb thing he tried to explain with that post saying ^^ is a lie but no ^^ means it's truth or whatever.

This isn't remotely saying I thought he was town. I just wanted more time on him. He was basically doing exactly what I did in Carol when I was town and first time mafia player.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 12 2015 19:29 GMT
#1017
Btw, what bussing means? and EoD?

Bussing is like safe vote that doesn't change anymore who is going to get lynched? or?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 12 2015 19:30 GMT
#1018
bussing is when one scum tries to lynch another scum to look good

eod means end of day (means lynch voting deadline thing)
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 12 2015 19:31 GMT
#1019
I saw something else EoR, Eo(x) something. Im not able to find that anymore. Is that just typo or is there something else that starts with Eo?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 19:32 GMT
#1020
On April 13 2015 04:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Btw, what bussing means? and EoD?

Bussing is like safe vote that doesn't change anymore who is going to get lynched? or?


Bussing is when a mafia team mate cases and/or votes another teammate. Typically it's when mafia thinks one mafia is crap and uses it to show they are towny since they caught mafia. It's so prevalent now that it's turned into WIFOM from me. I've read a game where Vivax actually shot his mafiamate and claimed vig to get confirmed. Sicklucker in Guardians orbed his mafia mate to death and was confirmed town for it.

EoD is End of Day.

WIFOM is wine in front of me. Princess Bride movie scene. Google it it's great.
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