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rsoultin
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Stutters695
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On April 12 2015 15:50 jarjarbinks wrote: I'm not seeing the case against stutters. Out of his top 3 scum targets (bresh, prp, and plot), plot was gaining traction and he had to leave. It wouldn't make sense to place a vote on the other two at the time. I thought it was interesting that he said he was very liable to bus as a mafia teammate(and would bus a bad mafia teammate), and then hts votes plot BECAUSE she thought he wouldn't bus. Did she just miss his quote? It seemed like she was analyzing him pretty hard at the time to decide her vote. Crucial time to miss something like that in a guy with a small filter. I said the thing about bussing way after the lynch. I'm pretty sure I said it in response to that post after the flip when I came back actually. | ||
The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Just woke up and found out I don't work today =D so I'll be in and out of here all day. I'll have comments on EoD soon. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
at 12:55 TheBloodyDwarf voted Stutters695. That post only had the vote in it. His previous post was at 9:50 talking about how he loves me. For the record I buy the :D vs explanation. Buuuuuttttttt still no scumhunting.... There were people around talking a couple hours prior to EoD. It was not a dead thread. Possible explanations: 1. lurking about waiting to see how the vote goes. Sees a counterwagon on Stutters and goes for it. Regardless of Stutters alignment I think Dwarf could make this vote. Now that it's 20 some hours after, I see the actual numbers and think that he probably knew what the vote count was and realized that Stutters is safe from being lynched. There were 4 minutes left, when he voted. Not much time to drop that many votes. Stutters can be town or mafia in this position. It doesn't matter. But TheBloodyDwarf sees a reason to move to him as there was a shenany. And of course I think this is a mindfuckTube game. 2. He could have legitimately realized he needed to vote and placed it. Why did he wait? Why not at 9:50 when he said his only scum read was Stutters695? Why'd he wait till 4 minutes left in the day? How aware are you guys of the deadline? I mean I will vote somewhat early if I am out and about and can potentially miss the deadline. I get it that if I KNOW I'll be around and don't have any real life things scheduled that placing that vote isn't so important. But I'll be in the thread. I would NEVER have 2 posts in 3 hours prior to deadline if I was there the entire time. Anyway, I'm going to dive Stutters deeper. I probably shouldn't scum him because he thinks 2 of my top towns are scum. | ||
Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 13 2015 03:12 Tubesock wrote: The vote was 6-2 until 12:55 favoring Plotspot. It had Prplhz and I on Stutters695. at 12:55 TheBloodyDwarf voted Stutters695. That post only had the vote in it. His previous post was at 9:50 talking about how he loves me. For the record I buy the :D vs explanation. Buuuuuttttttt still no scumhunting.... There were people around talking a couple hours prior to EoD. It was not a dead thread. Possible explanations: 1. lurking about waiting to see how the vote goes. Sees a counterwagon on Stutters and goes for it. Regardless of Stutters alignment I think Dwarf could make this vote. Now that it's 20 some hours after, I see the actual numbers and think that he probably knew what the vote count was and realized that Stutters is safe from being lynched. There were 4 minutes left, when he voted. Not much time to drop that many votes. Stutters can be town or mafia in this position. It doesn't matter. But TheBloodyDwarf sees a reason to move to him as there was a shenany. And of course I think this is a mindfuckTube game. 2. He could have legitimately realized he needed to vote and placed it. Why did he wait? Why not at 9:50 when he said his only scum read was Stutters695? Why'd he wait till 4 minutes left in the day? How aware are you guys of the deadline? I mean I will vote somewhat early if I am out and about and can potentially miss the deadline. I get it that if I KNOW I'll be around and don't have any real life things scheduled that placing that vote isn't so important. But I'll be in the thread. I would NEVER have 2 posts in 3 hours prior to deadline if I was there the entire time. Anyway, I'm going to dive Stutters deeper. I probably shouldn't scum him because he thinks 2 of my top towns are scum. mmm if that's true tube (i haven't double-checked yet) then yeah...last-minute votes on the counter-train would make sense from a bussing standpoint...though i'd argue that a town stutters makes that less likely just 'cause late voting draws attention, and it's not really any better than a wasted vote xP that said, i'm home! lol and yeah kinda tired honestly, so i'll stick around to talk until EoN then prob take a nap | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:13 prplhz wrote: it's just like stutters has not exactly been noticable this game. then he comes in here, sees people are looking at plot, says "gonna look at plot and write something" and then he just votes him for claiming scum. seems exceedingly lazy and uninterested. no i don't think that looks natural, it looks like he's thinking "guess i'll vote for the current bandwagon for whatever reason i can find in his latest post". some people are all "he's martyring, lynch him!" but that's just bad play. dunno if it's how stutters play and i'm not going to check his database entry for any fervent anti-martyrism. Can you explain the bolded. I'm not seeing any martyism from Stutters. For the thread: What does Scum!Prplhz have to gain from shenanying off a town? Or starting a shenany? Even a useless one? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 13 2015 03:27 Holyflare wrote: I've not read a single thing in this game. Someone tell me some key points. mmm we were lynching plot, who kinda claimed scum weirdly i guess and because stutters had come in late in the day and just voted him ppl tried to shennany onto him for that lol >< prob better to ask someone else. i wasn't here for any of it but yeah, plot flipped town other things of note: shining replaced in for ace i wasn't a fan of soren's recent posting but seeing as how he now has a replacement lol >< the fall-off may not be alignment-indicative xP | ||
Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 13 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote: mmm if that's true tube (i haven't double-checked yet) then yeah...last-minute votes on the counter-train would make sense from a bussing standpoint...though i'd argue that a town stutters makes that less likely just 'cause late voting draws attention, and it's not really any better than a wasted vote xP that said, i'm home! lol and yeah kinda tired honestly, so i'll stick around to talk until EoN then prob take a nap I'm missing the bussing thing everyone is so focused on. I'm saying that Dwarf could safely bus Stutters in that situation, or switch to town stutters to gain not killing town cred, or fucking with my mind so I ended up voting with my top scumreads "scum" read. | ||
Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 13 2015 03:27 Holyflare wrote: I've not read a single thing in this game. Someone tell me some key points. Hmm. So far a lot of weird and scummy play. Plotspot basically claimed scum and was acting super weird. Had 7ish people on him. Prplhz got queasy as did I and we voted Stutters695 with 30-60minutes ish of EoD. TheBloodyDwarf hasn't done a single towny thing, yet I'm basically the only one wanting to lynch him. But, in everyones defense he's acting so scummy and useless that it is possible it's too scummy to be scum. Bleh. That's basically it. | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 13 2015 03:36 Tubesock wrote: I'm missing the bussing thing everyone is so focused on. I'm saying that Dwarf could safely bus Stutters in that situation, or switch to town stutters to gain not killing town cred, or fucking with my mind so I ended up voting with my top scumreads "scum" read. -sits on tube's tinfoil hat- there was something about bussing when everyone thought plot was scum? and then i think some players are talking about bussing not realizing what it is...i'm not really following completely, either honestly this speculation is cool and all but it's not gonna really get us anywhere since stutters' alignment isn't known. prob best to just stick to what makes people scummy xP that isn't reliant on stutters' alignment | ||
Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 13 2015 03:49 rsoultin wrote: -sits on tube's tinfoil hat- there was something about bussing when everyone thought plot was scum? and then i think some players are talking about bussing not realizing what it is...i'm not really following completely, either honestly this speculation is cool and all but it's not gonna really get us anywhere since stutters' alignment isn't known. prob best to just stick to what makes people scummy xP that isn't reliant on stutters' alignment Ahhh that's why I'm missing it. People, you can't bus a town...mafia onto Plotspots is NOT bussing. That's called a miss lynch. Assuming you're talking to me about my speculation, my thoughts don't have anything related to what Stutters alignment is. It actually doesn't matter what his alignment is. It still makes me think Dwarf is even scummier than I did yesterday. What do you think about Stutters695? | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 13 2015 03:31 Tubesock wrote: Can you explain the bolded. I'm not seeing any martyism from Stutters. For the thread: What does Scum!Prplhz have to gain from shenanying off a town? Or starting a shenany? Even a useless one? no i'm not saying stutters is martyring. i'm saying he is voting for plotspot for martyring and that's bad play. i think i explained why somewhere. i'm saying "voting for martyrs because they martyr is bad play. maybe stutters is just a player who votes for people who martyrs even though voting for people who martyr is a bad thing to do. i could go into his database entry and check out if stutters is a player who votes for martyrs for martyring but i'm not going to." | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 13 2015 03:57 Tubesock wrote: Ahhh that's why I'm missing it. People, you can't bus a town...mafia onto Plotspots is NOT bussing. That's called a miss lynch. Assuming you're talking to me about my speculation, my thoughts don't have anything related to what Stutters alignment is. It actually doesn't matter what his alignment is. It still makes me think Dwarf is even scummier than I did yesterday. What do you think about Stutters695? eh, tiny filter, like some of the analysis and the 4 scumreads test thing lol...i don't really think that the vote 15 hours after saying he'd look into plot after plot claimed scum is actually significant? like it could be opportunistic or just stutters' voting a scumread who claimed scum -shrugs- i dunnae i think there's more likely mafia than him, dwarf included. you still think dwarf is godfather trying to be cop-checked? | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
this going through newbies and lynching them for saying weird things is ... dumb. yea i said it. | ||
Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 13 2015 04:00 prplhz wrote: no i'm not saying stutters is martyring. i'm saying he is voting for plotspot for martyring and that's bad play. i think i explained why somewhere. i'm saying "voting for martyrs because they martyr is bad play. maybe stutters is just a player who votes for people who martyrs even though voting for people who martyr is a bad thing to do. i could go into his database entry and check out if stutters is a player who votes for martyrs for martyring but i'm not going to." ah ok. Yeah I totally agree. I don't particularly like martyrdom. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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