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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
So imagine if stutters is mafia do you think a partner swaps to him there | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 12 2015 13:09 Breshke wrote: holy shit EBWOP So imagine if stutters is mafia do you think a partner swaps to him there probably depends a lot on the context | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
Yeah i meant like in this context but this is probs a bad way to go because of pre flip associations or w/e. On April 12 2015 05:52 Bourneq wrote: Plot still seems like the obvious lynch to me. Stutters is certinatly a suspect but I see no reason in keeping plot around. Can you explain this to me bourne what do you mean by the bolded. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
I get to read the entire game up to this point with no breaks. In all its glory. I'm thinking I'll find our first scum. Wish me luck. Inb4 useless entry post. Never replaced before so idc. | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
I'll be on for a little bit to catch up. Anyone else on? | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Nice to see you again, JJB. I came in dead set on nailing you in particular if I read you as scum at all(See: our last game together). I'm really hoping your alignment is diff this time around lol. | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
I thought it was interesting that he said he was very liable to bus as a mafia teammate(and would bus a bad mafia teammate), and then hts votes plot BECAUSE she thought he wouldn't bus. Did she just miss his quote? It seemed like she was analyzing him pretty hard at the time to decide her vote. Crucial time to miss something like that in a guy with a small filter. | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
On April 12 2015 15:47 The Shining wrote: Sort of. Top of page 23. At this pace, I should be caught up before EoN though, provided I don't fall asleep lol. Nice to see you again, JJB. I came in dead set on nailing you in particular if I read you as scum at all(See: our last game together). I'm really hoping your alignment is diff this time around lol. lol that's why I secretly wanted you to take my spot before the round started. I saw you wanting to play and I was like O CRAP i'm totally paying for my sins this round. I hope your as good this time around as last time. You were so spot on last round lol in my defense that game I did call myself "the scummiest" like 4 or 5 times that game lol What do you think of strutters and hts so far? | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:58 Half the Sky wrote: Stutters voted plotspot. Would someone bus someone this early in a newbie game? He's a veteran, but probably not. ##unvote ##vote stutters695 Can I call myself an idiot now? Disregard that bit about hts | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
On April 12 2015 06:02 Onegu wrote: I think rsoul is. My second newbie I bussed the shit out of my partners day one She does have a tendency to bus "bad" mafia teammates. I wouldn't say she started the train on plot, but I think her vote greatly helped it get traction. Leader-1st follower mentality. I don't know if I would say that is the smartest play (and she is beyond logical) unless she didn't see anyone else as an easy lynch. I'm interested in your case on her though. She seems less "on top of the game" than the last time I played with her, but that could be due to the whole travel/LS thing. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On April 11 2015 10:48 Stutters695 wrote: Was wondering how long it would take someone to notice that. Was really hoping it'd be a newbie to see their reaction, but can't win them all. Ace: obv policy lynch, nothing more. I'm less confident in seeing an increase in posting from him if we give him time, do he's my fall back if I can't get my main lynch going. Currently I still want Breshke's head. I'm not sure how to vocalize it exactly, but he just feels off. I still see plenty of scum mindset behind his actions and skimming his past 4 (2 scum, 2 town) games day 1 hasn't put me at ease. His play so far doesn't match either meta really. As town he has much more focus in his posts. He might change his mind, but if he saw something he didn't like (my post for example) he would challenge it until he's satisfied, not brush it off. There is also a distinct lack of interaction with the people he suspects. His scum meta does seem to withhold reads until later, but after dying n1 and n2, I can see why he would attempt to change that. He's currently who I want to lynch. The other two I'm really interested in are prpl and plot, but I haven't had the time to really get into them yet. Can you rephrase that question about interactions with Onegu? If you mean us playing together, we have, but nothing notable from memory. This post stands out to me regarding Stutters. From what I've read so far and the filters I've dove, I've got a few preliminary reads that I'd be more than willing to explain after this. The way he mentions Ace as a "fallback" lynch just doesn't feel right. It's more of a tone read and I'm aware Ace hadn't done much before being replaced but writing off a newbie because you don't feel he'll increase in posting on D1 doesn't feel right. And I have Breshke as a town lean so naturally, it raises questions that he'd want to lynch him. He also mentions being suspicious of plot(flipped VT) and prpl. So that's 2 town and a town lean he'd be willing to lynch, before ultimately(and effortlessly) sheeping onto plot over his poor EoD antics. I've yet to read prpl and there's a lot more than that for me to read as well, but I'll continue trying to catch up and answer as best I can. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On April 12 2015 16:24 jarjarbinks wrote: She does have a tendency to bus "bad" mafia teammates. I wouldn't say she started the train on plot, but I think her vote greatly helped it get traction. Leader-1st follower mentality. I don't know if I would say that is the smartest play (and she is beyond logical) unless she didn't see anyone else as an easy lynch. I'm interested in your case on her though. She seems less "on top of the game" than the last time I played with her, but that could be due to the whole travel/LS thing. One thing I do remember pre-game was that she explicitly mentioned she wouldn't be around D1 ahead of time. I've already written it off as NAI and just awaiting D2 for me to really read her. She, like you, is someone I'd want to instantly case if I smelled scum. Which while I'm on the subject, I'm not sure where I lean on JJB right now. Probably slight town lean if I was forced to take a stance. He's much more engaging D1 than I remember him as scum and as far as his style of play goes, there are a few examples of him scumhunting in his filter. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
If I wasnt clear enough, I'm leaning scum on Stutters. | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
On April 11 2015 21:18 Soren333 wrote: Where do I even begin with this horrendous post... I'll dissect that post when I'm on the pc. I'm only quoting this because this never happened. Not a huge deal, but it would have been nice to see a case on plot though, since he voted for him and stuff. His list has Plot and Dwarf as #1 and #2. Seems blown away by the tubesock case, so why not vote Dwarf? Before he voted the vote count was 3 in favor of plot and 1 in favor of Dwarf (without Tubesock voting yet). His biggest case clears prp. I'm surprised he left it that way. I would think he would want to make the effort to lynch the right guy. If Soren is mafia, I could see how he might think plot would take less effort and take the attention away from him later on. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On April 11 2015 17:46 Tubesock wrote: So, I have this fascination with trying to read difficult/cryptic players. Players like Alakaslam, Sicklucker, Chezinu, and LightningStrike. It's dumb, but I absolutely love playing with those guys. I fall into big traps though, like finding deep meaning into statements and their word useage and once I think they are scummy I really get into confirmation bias. I'm really confused on TheBloodyDwarf. He hasn't done a single towny thing yet. He's blatantly ignoring requests for any type of read and isn't helping town at all. I mean it's so anti-town that mafia would at least try to fake something. He's not even doing that. He like doesn't care at all, he's trying to act as scummy as possible it seems. He made some posts which made me unvote him. At that time I was thinking he was basically softclaiming Vet. I didn't want to pursue anything and I think others were thinking the same thing. It would obviously defeat the purpose of him being vet. While at work i was thinking about him a lot. It just bugged me. A vet would play towny right? The entire point is to make MAFIA shoot you. But then you also have to avoid being lynched. And he's obviously not doing that. Then my tinfoil hat deflected an alien interrogation beam. TheBloodyDwarf is Godfather. BloodyDwarf comes from SC2 mafia arcade. So it's safe to say he plays SC2. He presumeably found TL mafia from the SC2 forums. He's not dumb, he's probably the more hardcore gamer type. TL Mafia does seem like the harder core version of many versions of mafia I think. So, he's fucking smart. He's not playing poorly at all. If he is Godfather, he KNOWS the setup. He knows if there is a cop/doc/vigi/vet. The OP says mafia knows. Reread his filter, doesn't it look like he's trying to make people think he's vet? "Don't shoot me" "I hope cop/vigi are guud". Yeah, he wants to make it look like he doesn't really know the setup but is telling the cop to check him so he returns town. He then knows who the cop is and mafia get to kill him. And he is basically confirmed town who gets to live at least another day. He softs vet knowing people probably won't push him since an outed vet is sooo bad for town. He then doesn't have to act towny. But in order to get cop checked he has to act really scummy so that the cop will check him over other question marks. Holy shit this is an amazing play. My tinfoils may sound crazy and stupid but holy shit in the 3 games I've finished I nailed at least 2 scum each time. Both were the strong mafia guys (Holyflare and Geript from Carol and Joat). What other scenario explains how TheBloodyDwarf is playing? The more I think about this the more I believe. Where are the holes in my thinking? Maybe it's because I use this phrase as well. Maybe it's because as I was reading, this exact theory crossed my mind reading Dwarf before I ever saw this post. It's probably also a shit tier meta read from the last time I played with Tube and he mentioned tinfoil theory(he was town). Whatever it is, reading this post from Tube is towny as shit. Also skimmed his filter. I can see where he was tunneled on Dwarf(who I'm pretty suspicious of) but also is willing to step back, re assess and try to figure out the game. He dives Plot, then upon engaging with him is willing to reassess once more. It's a tone read but it feels genuine in that he is trying to figure out the game and not mislynch blindly. | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
I gotta crash. Shining your right about Rso. I can vouch for her trip if that means anything. And that post of mine was dumb, cuz Rso didn't bus because plot was actually town... | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Dwarf: Next most suspicious after Stutters, although him voting Stutters gives me pause. If I give any credit to the godfather theory, though, it seems plausible he'd bus early, especially if Plot looked like the runaway wagon. Onegu: Want to look more into him. Null for now. From what I do remember reading, I had questions. I'll revisit them when I wake up. HTS: Slight town at first, then I kind of lost track of you. I will revisit you tomorrow as well. Bourneq: Somewhat forgettable. A lot of defensiveness and didn't really offer anything to the thread from what I read. Could have to revisit but I do remember thinking Bourneq was going to be a possible D1 scum lynch early at one point as I was reading. I know it isn't much but better catching up and giving you guys an idea of where I'm at. More than happy to answer anything tomorrow. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On April 12 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote: Prp when you lost interest in plot why didn't you bring up bourne again? Also dwarf can you explain to me your vote switches back and forth between stutters and plot. I didnt vote plot? I never accused him of anything.. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 12 2015 13:09 Breshke wrote: holy shit EBWOP So imagine if stutters is mafia do you think a partner swaps to him there lol sorry fell asleep >< on the plus side im on track to be home an hour or two before eon so woot unlikely? 4:7 is actually fairly close...just need 2 vote switches...that said its possible if one of the wasted votes was a scum player lol but i dont see the need for risky plays here? if it was town/town id look for non-committal type shifts to stutters. maybe hts? and/or wasted votes. prob 1-2 mafia on the main wagon. onegu almost def not scum in that case cause of how vocal he was about the lynch kk not gonna post overall reads right now cause i think im super behind but top towns at the moment: bresh (revisit if stutters scum) and tube (enthusiasm on dwarf seemed like excited townie thinking hed found something awesome lol) prp i think i need to reread just cause so many ppl seem to have a diff read? ive been mostly skimming so lol coulda missed something mmmm shinings entrance last night looked pretty good? wasted vote not so much xP but i dont remember the context for hus vote so yeah also sidenote bus means scum on scum so...huh? kk starting the drive now @.@ | ||
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