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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 20:55 GMT
#907
On April 12 2015 05:53 Breshke wrote:
I just woke up why are people swapping to stutters???


Basically, Plots been doing some weird weird scumclaimy play. Just in the last 3 pages. Makes me queasy and Prplhz also.

I'm basically sheeping Prp.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 20:55 GMT
#909
Jesus Christ.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 21:11 GMT
#932
On April 12 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 06:06 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 12 2015 06:04 Breshke wrote:
Sorry HTS my alarm didnt go off so i was still im bed on ohone so it was hard to consider stuff.


I keep forgetting it's 6am there or 7 or something.


6:30 and on a saturday!


Are you in Darwin?

Plot did claim scum. And literally had 2 posts that were town. Meh.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 18:12 GMT
#985
The vote was 6-2 until 12:55 favoring Plotspot. It had Prplhz and I on Stutters695.

at 12:55 TheBloodyDwarf voted Stutters695. That post only had the vote in it. His previous post was at 9:50 talking about how he loves me. For the record I buy the :D vs explanation. Buuuuuttttttt still no scumhunting....

There were people around talking a couple hours prior to EoD. It was not a dead thread.

Possible explanations:

1. lurking about waiting to see how the vote goes. Sees a counterwagon on Stutters and goes for it. Regardless of Stutters alignment I think Dwarf could make this vote. Now that it's 20 some hours after, I see the actual numbers and think that he probably knew what the vote count was and realized that Stutters is safe from being lynched. There were 4 minutes left, when he voted. Not much time to drop that many votes.

Stutters can be town or mafia in this position. It doesn't matter. But TheBloodyDwarf sees a reason to move to him as there was a shenany. And of course I think this is a mindfuckTube game.

2. He could have legitimately realized he needed to vote and placed it. Why did he wait? Why not at 9:50 when he said his only scum read was Stutters695? Why'd he wait till 4 minutes left in the day?


How aware are you guys of the deadline? I mean I will vote somewhat early if I am out and about and can potentially miss the deadline. I get it that if I KNOW I'll be around and don't have any real life things scheduled that placing that vote isn't so important. But I'll be in the thread. I would NEVER have 2 posts in 3 hours prior to deadline if I was there the entire time.

Anyway, I'm going to dive Stutters deeper. I probably shouldn't scum him because he thinks 2 of my top towns are scum.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 18:13 GMT
#986
*Oh Deadline for me is 12:59
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 18:31 GMT
#990
On April 12 2015 05:13 prplhz wrote:
it's just like stutters has not exactly been noticable this game. then he comes in here, sees people are looking at plot, says "gonna look at plot and write something" and then he just votes him for claiming scum. seems exceedingly lazy and uninterested. no i don't think that looks natural, it looks like he's thinking "guess i'll vote for the current bandwagon for whatever reason i can find in his latest post".

some people are all "he's martyring, lynch him!" but that's just bad play. dunno if it's how stutters play and i'm not going to check his database entry for any fervent anti-martyrism.


Can you explain the bolded. I'm not seeing any martyism from Stutters.

For the thread:

What does Scum!Prplhz have to gain from shenanying off a town? Or starting a shenany? Even a useless one?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 18:36 GMT
#992
On April 13 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 03:12 Tubesock wrote:
The vote was 6-2 until 12:55 favoring Plotspot. It had Prplhz and I on Stutters695.

at 12:55 TheBloodyDwarf voted Stutters695. That post only had the vote in it. His previous post was at 9:50 talking about how he loves me. For the record I buy the :D vs explanation. Buuuuuttttttt still no scumhunting....

There were people around talking a couple hours prior to EoD. It was not a dead thread.

Possible explanations:

1. lurking about waiting to see how the vote goes. Sees a counterwagon on Stutters and goes for it. Regardless of Stutters alignment I think Dwarf could make this vote. Now that it's 20 some hours after, I see the actual numbers and think that he probably knew what the vote count was and realized that Stutters is safe from being lynched. There were 4 minutes left, when he voted. Not much time to drop that many votes.

Stutters can be town or mafia in this position. It doesn't matter. But TheBloodyDwarf sees a reason to move to him as there was a shenany. And of course I think this is a mindfuckTube game.

2. He could have legitimately realized he needed to vote and placed it. Why did he wait? Why not at 9:50 when he said his only scum read was Stutters695? Why'd he wait till 4 minutes left in the day?


How aware are you guys of the deadline? I mean I will vote somewhat early if I am out and about and can potentially miss the deadline. I get it that if I KNOW I'll be around and don't have any real life things scheduled that placing that vote isn't so important. But I'll be in the thread. I would NEVER have 2 posts in 3 hours prior to deadline if I was there the entire time.

Anyway, I'm going to dive Stutters deeper. I probably shouldn't scum him because he thinks 2 of my top towns are scum.


mmm if that's true tube (i haven't double-checked yet) then yeah...last-minute votes on the counter-train would make sense from a bussing standpoint...though i'd argue that a town stutters makes that less likely just 'cause late voting draws attention, and it's not really any better than a wasted vote xP

that said, i'm home! lol and yeah kinda tired honestly, so i'll stick around to talk until EoN then prob take a nap


I'm missing the bussing thing everyone is so focused on. I'm saying that Dwarf could safely bus Stutters in that situation, or switch to town stutters to gain not killing town cred, or fucking with my mind so I ended up voting with my top scumreads "scum" read.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 18:40 GMT
#993
On April 13 2015 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
I've not read a single thing in this game. Someone tell me some key points.


Hmm. So far a lot of weird and scummy play.

Plotspot basically claimed scum and was acting super weird. Had 7ish people on him. Prplhz got queasy as did I and we voted Stutters695 with 30-60minutes ish of EoD.

TheBloodyDwarf hasn't done a single towny thing, yet I'm basically the only one wanting to lynch him. But, in everyones defense he's acting so scummy and useless that it is possible it's too scummy to be scum. Bleh.

That's basically it.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 18:57 GMT
#995
On April 13 2015 03:49 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 03:36 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:12 Tubesock wrote:
The vote was 6-2 until 12:55 favoring Plotspot. It had Prplhz and I on Stutters695.

at 12:55 TheBloodyDwarf voted Stutters695. That post only had the vote in it. His previous post was at 9:50 talking about how he loves me. For the record I buy the :D vs explanation. Buuuuuttttttt still no scumhunting....

There were people around talking a couple hours prior to EoD. It was not a dead thread.

Possible explanations:

1. lurking about waiting to see how the vote goes. Sees a counterwagon on Stutters and goes for it. Regardless of Stutters alignment I think Dwarf could make this vote. Now that it's 20 some hours after, I see the actual numbers and think that he probably knew what the vote count was and realized that Stutters is safe from being lynched. There were 4 minutes left, when he voted. Not much time to drop that many votes.

Stutters can be town or mafia in this position. It doesn't matter. But TheBloodyDwarf sees a reason to move to him as there was a shenany. And of course I think this is a mindfuckTube game.

2. He could have legitimately realized he needed to vote and placed it. Why did he wait? Why not at 9:50 when he said his only scum read was Stutters695? Why'd he wait till 4 minutes left in the day?


How aware are you guys of the deadline? I mean I will vote somewhat early if I am out and about and can potentially miss the deadline. I get it that if I KNOW I'll be around and don't have any real life things scheduled that placing that vote isn't so important. But I'll be in the thread. I would NEVER have 2 posts in 3 hours prior to deadline if I was there the entire time.

Anyway, I'm going to dive Stutters deeper. I probably shouldn't scum him because he thinks 2 of my top towns are scum.


mmm if that's true tube (i haven't double-checked yet) then yeah...last-minute votes on the counter-train would make sense from a bussing standpoint...though i'd argue that a town stutters makes that less likely just 'cause late voting draws attention, and it's not really any better than a wasted vote xP

that said, i'm home! lol and yeah kinda tired honestly, so i'll stick around to talk until EoN then prob take a nap


I'm missing the bussing thing everyone is so focused on. I'm saying that Dwarf could safely bus Stutters in that situation, or switch to town stutters to gain not killing town cred, or fucking with my mind so I ended up voting with my top scumreads "scum" read.


-sits on tube's tinfoil hat-

there was something about bussing when everyone thought plot was scum? and then i think some players are talking about bussing not realizing what it is...i'm not really following completely, either

honestly this speculation is cool and all but it's not gonna really get us anywhere since stutters' alignment isn't known. prob best to just stick to what makes people scummy xP that isn't reliant on stutters' alignment


Ahhh that's why I'm missing it. People, you can't bus a town...mafia onto Plotspots is NOT bussing. That's called a miss lynch.

Assuming you're talking to me about my speculation, my thoughts don't have anything related to what Stutters alignment is. It actually doesn't matter what his alignment is. It still makes me think Dwarf is even scummier than I did yesterday.

What do you think about Stutters695?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 19:06 GMT
#999
On April 13 2015 04:00 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 03:31 Tubesock wrote:
On April 12 2015 05:13 prplhz wrote:
it's just like stutters has not exactly been noticable this game. then he comes in here, sees people are looking at plot, says "gonna look at plot and write something" and then he just votes him for claiming scum. seems exceedingly lazy and uninterested. no i don't think that looks natural, it looks like he's thinking "guess i'll vote for the current bandwagon for whatever reason i can find in his latest post".

some people are all "he's martyring, lynch him!" but that's just bad play. dunno if it's how stutters play and i'm not going to check his database entry for any fervent anti-martyrism.


Can you explain the bolded. I'm not seeing any martyism from Stutters.

For the thread:

What does Scum!Prplhz have to gain from shenanying off a town? Or starting a shenany? Even a useless one?


no i'm not saying stutters is martyring. i'm saying he is voting for plotspot for martyring and that's bad play. i think i explained why somewhere. i'm saying "voting for martyrs because they martyr is bad play. maybe stutters is just a player who votes for people who martyrs even though voting for people who martyr is a bad thing to do. i could go into his database entry and check out if stutters is a player who votes for martyrs for martyring but i'm not going to."


ah ok. Yeah I totally agree. I don't particularly like martyrdom.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 19:11 GMT
#1002
On April 13 2015 04:02 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 03:57 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:49 rsoultin wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:36 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote:
On April 13 2015 03:12 Tubesock wrote:
The vote was 6-2 until 12:55 favoring Plotspot. It had Prplhz and I on Stutters695.

at 12:55 TheBloodyDwarf voted Stutters695. That post only had the vote in it. His previous post was at 9:50 talking about how he loves me. For the record I buy the :D vs explanation. Buuuuuttttttt still no scumhunting....

There were people around talking a couple hours prior to EoD. It was not a dead thread.

Possible explanations:

1. lurking about waiting to see how the vote goes. Sees a counterwagon on Stutters and goes for it. Regardless of Stutters alignment I think Dwarf could make this vote. Now that it's 20 some hours after, I see the actual numbers and think that he probably knew what the vote count was and realized that Stutters is safe from being lynched. There were 4 minutes left, when he voted. Not much time to drop that many votes.

Stutters can be town or mafia in this position. It doesn't matter. But TheBloodyDwarf sees a reason to move to him as there was a shenany. And of course I think this is a mindfuckTube game.

2. He could have legitimately realized he needed to vote and placed it. Why did he wait? Why not at 9:50 when he said his only scum read was Stutters695? Why'd he wait till 4 minutes left in the day?


How aware are you guys of the deadline? I mean I will vote somewhat early if I am out and about and can potentially miss the deadline. I get it that if I KNOW I'll be around and don't have any real life things scheduled that placing that vote isn't so important. But I'll be in the thread. I would NEVER have 2 posts in 3 hours prior to deadline if I was there the entire time.

Anyway, I'm going to dive Stutters deeper. I probably shouldn't scum him because he thinks 2 of my top towns are scum.


mmm if that's true tube (i haven't double-checked yet) then yeah...last-minute votes on the counter-train would make sense from a bussing standpoint...though i'd argue that a town stutters makes that less likely just 'cause late voting draws attention, and it's not really any better than a wasted vote xP

that said, i'm home! lol and yeah kinda tired honestly, so i'll stick around to talk until EoN then prob take a nap


I'm missing the bussing thing everyone is so focused on. I'm saying that Dwarf could safely bus Stutters in that situation, or switch to town stutters to gain not killing town cred, or fucking with my mind so I ended up voting with my top scumreads "scum" read.


-sits on tube's tinfoil hat-

there was something about bussing when everyone thought plot was scum? and then i think some players are talking about bussing not realizing what it is...i'm not really following completely, either

honestly this speculation is cool and all but it's not gonna really get us anywhere since stutters' alignment isn't known. prob best to just stick to what makes people scummy xP that isn't reliant on stutters' alignment


Ahhh that's why I'm missing it. People, you can't bus a town...mafia onto Plotspots is NOT bussing. That's called a miss lynch.

Assuming you're talking to me about my speculation, my thoughts don't have anything related to what Stutters alignment is. It actually doesn't matter what his alignment is. It still makes me think Dwarf is even scummier than I did yesterday.

What do you think about Stutters695?


eh, tiny filter, like some of the analysis and the 4 scumreads test thing lol...i don't really think that the vote 15 hours after saying he'd look into plot after plot claimed scum is actually significant? like it could be opportunistic or just stutters' voting a scumread who claimed scum -shrugs-

i dunnae i think there's more likely mafia than him, dwarf included. you still think dwarf is godfather trying to be cop-checked?


I do think that stutters saw the scumclaim and was like, why bother wasting any more effort.

I can't help it I do kinda think that Dwarf is Godfather. While instead of a huge likelyhood of it, now it's fairly a minor possibility. Prp and Bresh's points were solid. It's insanity. But I can't shake he's mafia.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 19:15 GMT
#1004
On April 13 2015 04:07 prplhz wrote:
what? that's not what i'm saying at all.


Uh I thought you said Stutters voted Plot for martying. I dont' think that's the entire reason but I'm sure it's part of it. Although I think it's more he scum claimed.

You're saying voting someone for martying is bad play right? I agree. I also don't like martyrdoming. I think it's bad play to vote someone for it and to do it. It's a less asshole thing to do than modkilling yourself.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 19:23 GMT
#1016
On April 13 2015 04:16 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 04:15 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 04:07 prplhz wrote:
what? that's not what i'm saying at all.


Uh I thought you said Stutters voted Plot for martying. I dont' think that's the entire reason but I'm sure it's part of it. Although I think it's more he scum claimed.

You're saying voting someone for martying is bad play right? I agree. I also don't like martyrdoming. I think it's bad play to vote someone for it and to do it. It's a less asshole thing to do than modkilling yourself.

hmm okay then.

claiming scum and martyring is the same though. and stutters voted plot because plot claimed scum.

even if claiming scum and martyring isn't the same then it's the same for the purpose of the argument i'm making (that voting some for martyring/claiming scum is bad play)


I think we are on the same page here.

I followed you to Stutters. I wanted Plot to stay alive to figure out what he was doing. It didn't look like a scum play to me from him. It looked like him trying to get peoples attention to have them look deeper into him and talk with him. His whole ^^ stuff that was a breadcrumb thing he tried to explain with that post saying ^^ is a lie but no ^^ means it's truth or whatever.

This isn't remotely saying I thought he was town. I just wanted more time on him. He was basically doing exactly what I did in Carol when I was town and first time mafia player.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 19:32 GMT
#1020
On April 13 2015 04:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Btw, what bussing means? and EoD?

Bussing is like safe vote that doesn't change anymore who is going to get lynched? or?


Bussing is when a mafia team mate cases and/or votes another teammate. Typically it's when mafia thinks one mafia is crap and uses it to show they are towny since they caught mafia. It's so prevalent now that it's turned into WIFOM from me. I've read a game where Vivax actually shot his mafiamate and claimed vig to get confirmed. Sicklucker in Guardians orbed his mafia mate to death and was confirmed town for it.

EoD is End of Day.

WIFOM is wine in front of me. Princess Bride movie scene. Google it it's great.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 19:32 GMT
#1021
On April 13 2015 04:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I saw something else EoR, Eo(x) something. Im not able to find that anymore. Is that just typo or is there something else that starts with Eo?


End of Night
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 19:40 GMT
#1023
On April 13 2015 04:34 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 04:32 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 04:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I saw something else EoR, Eo(x) something. Im not able to find that anymore. Is that just typo or is there something else that starts with Eo?


End of Night

Yes, I just though that when I was in WC :D Yes im stupid


haha no no you are not. I have to say I really like playing with you. I think no matter what you flip, I'm going to learn a lot from this game because of you. So, I have to thank you.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 20:04 GMT
#1028
In case I die.

Town
Soren / Holyflare
Breshke
Prplhz
Rsoultin
Half the Sky
Jarjarbinks
The Shining - I was thinking of having him in the nulls but it would essentially be a policy null. Ace was useless. I like Shining. Plus he likes my thoughts on Dwarf so there's that.

Nulls
Onegu - hasn't done a lot. Waiting on his Rsoultin case
Stutters695 - I see posts in his filter I like. Some I'm eh ok. I have a hard time towning him when he scums Breshke and Prplhz. I plan on rereading Breshke and Prplhz more to see if I think Stutters points are reasonable. Anyway, focusing on him Day 2. Also thinking about Prplhz's assessment of him.
Bourneq - Got a lot of flack from Prplhz at the very beginning. I gave him a couple slight townpoints for something but that was basically it. Don't remember anything else about him.

Mafia
TheBloodyDwarf - duh!


Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 20:09 GMT
#1029
On April 13 2015 04:55 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
1 hour to day. Hype!?!?

Tubesock, can you read to meaning of this post?


haha, I'm sure I can find something. Other than you are in fact hilarious.

You still haven't done a single thing to help town...When does arcade mafia start gaining information? Like when do those games really start?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 20:24 GMT
#1031
On April 13 2015 05:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 05:09 Tubesock wrote:
On April 13 2015 04:55 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
1 hour to day. Hype!?!?

Tubesock, can you read to meaning of this post?


haha, I'm sure I can find something. Other than you are in fact hilarious.

You still haven't done a single thing to help town...When does arcade mafia start gaining information? Like when do those games really start?

But everyone was liking Stutters before I found him suspicious. I dont get any points for that?

Arcade mafia is not based to chat so much as this one. If there is 15 players, usually max 2-3 are citizens (town vanilla), others have some kind of cool job :D

D2 is when game starts but D3 is where really starts happening so much.


If Stutters695 is mafia then yes you'd get points. I don't think you would bus him like that. You were probably one of the first to scum him. I scummed you for it too! haha. Somehow, I think that my theory is more likely than a mafia dwarf would bus Stutters. You're not stupid, you wouldn't bring this much attention to yourself AND point out one of your mafia mates for no reason. That's tinfoil lined shoes insane.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 12 2015 20:32 GMT
#1033
On April 13 2015 05:27 Holyflare wrote:
Oh am I universally town read?


No. I think Prphlz and someone else scum you. Some of the other question marks haven't weighed in on Soren/you yet.
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