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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 24 2015 01:23 GMT
#71
/replace?

I could /in if we start at the end of the month I think. For sure if it's the 2nd.

Also this would be my 4th game. Still newbie I believe.

I'd love to be coached in Chupazi.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 09 2015 22:43 GMT
#215
Woot! Hi everyone!
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 09 2015 23:00 GMT
#236
On April 10 2015 07:54 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 07:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wow Soren is really digging old things :D

Cant we let past be past?

you should really just answer him

and answer breshke why you are voting me


Soren is looking good. Dwarf, uh not so much. Dwarf, you going to scumhunt at all?

Prplhz, how do you read Half The Sky? She seems different this game from what I've seen of her in the past. Seems towny to me, but to be fair, I've only seen her in 1 scum game and I thought she was strong town then?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 09 2015 23:09 GMT
#249
On April 10 2015 08:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:00 Tubesock wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:54 prplhz wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wow Soren is really digging old things :D

Cant we let past be past?

you should really just answer him

and answer breshke why you are voting me


Soren is looking good. Dwarf, uh not so much. Dwarf, you going to scumhunt at all?

Prplhz, how do you read Half The Sky? She seems different this game from what I've seen of her in the past. Seems towny to me, but to be fair, I've only seen her in 1 scum game and I thought she was strong town then?

Not much with what to scumhunt


It's like you're making an excuse already not to. You haven't questioned anyone. I think you just don't care and already have the game figured out.

Do you have any town reads, anything?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 09 2015 23:14 GMT
#259
On April 10 2015 08:10 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:00 Tubesock wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:54 prplhz wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wow Soren is really digging old things :D

Cant we let past be past?

you should really just answer him

and answer breshke why you are voting me


Soren is looking good. Dwarf, uh not so much. Dwarf, you going to scumhunt at all?

Prplhz, how do you read Half The Sky? She seems different this game from what I've seen of her in the past. Seems towny to me, but to be fair, I've only seen her in 1 scum game and I thought she was strong town then?

uh, townie enough for now. don't know why you're asking me about some flaky meta read you're not sure about, if you have 1 game with her then i'd advice you to mostly disregard that and just focus on what she's doing this game.


That's why I was asking you. You have more experience with her. Next time, I'll just ask you your read on her. That way I can get a read on you and more insight on her.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 09 2015 23:21 GMT
#272
On April 10 2015 08:16 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:14 Tubesock wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:10 prplhz wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:00 Tubesock wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:54 prplhz wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wow Soren is really digging old things :D

Cant we let past be past?

you should really just answer him

and answer breshke why you are voting me


Soren is looking good. Dwarf, uh not so much. Dwarf, you going to scumhunt at all?

Prplhz, how do you read Half The Sky? She seems different this game from what I've seen of her in the past. Seems towny to me, but to be fair, I've only seen her in 1 scum game and I thought she was strong town then?

uh, townie enough for now. don't know why you're asking me about some flaky meta read you're not sure about, if you have 1 game with her then i'd advice you to mostly disregard that and just focus on what she's doing this game.


That's why I was asking you. You have more experience with her. Next time, I'll just ask you your read on her. That way I can get a read on you and more insight on her.

i do? i have one game with hts and i was scum that game (so i wasn't trying that hard to read her)


oh haha I'm dumb. I assumed since you're a vet that you have played more games with her. My bad.

Anyway, I think she's acting towny. She's obviously learned not to enter in the game with huge "I'm TOWN" statements which gets her a lot of mud thrown her way. She seemed like she was digging a little into people which I think makes her towny.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 10 2015 00:11 GMT
#308
On April 10 2015 09:04 prplhz wrote:
i don't know i have a better feeling about bourneq


Can you elaborate? Dwarf is looking pretty bad...

This is all because he doesn't care about your post about you maybe mafia or not?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 10 2015 03:59 GMT
#396
Anyone still around?

Breshke and Soren are my town reads so far.

BloodyDwarf still scummy till he produces. He is boarderline too scummy to be scum but most his posts make me itch. And not in the good way.

##Vote:TheBloodyDwarf

Plotspot I'm trying to read but I just don't understand a couple of his posts. Like several other people I'm wondering how he towned Prplhz so fast. I could be twitchy too since it seems in many games the mafia like to insult to convey passion or whatever (Plot calling Onegu a fucktard).
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 10 2015 04:24 GMT
#398
Hi Ace,

I'm more or less around if you want to chat after you catch up.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 10 2015 04:47 GMT
#402
On April 10 2015 13:33 Breshke wrote:
Hey tube.

What do you think or prplhz? You have me and soren as town reads and we seem to disagree on him so far whats your opinion?


Prplhz seems carefree and saying things to further discussion and whatnot. The problem is like HTS and Rsoultin it isn't anything that I don't think he can do as scum. I don't understand his Bourneq stuff. Or at least how it's less scummy than Postpol or bloodydwarf. He scums Bourneq for not caring about his post, but then doesn't care at all that Rsoultin said she would lynch HTS for being townie? Isn't that weird?

I'd place you in the same category (can't town due to fear) but your post about BloodyDwarf I don't see can come from scum. You talked about how he is probably playing like that because of the SC2 arcade, but then say he's still scum for HTS' points. I think if you were scum you wouldn't consider him town at all. If you are scum, you're making it harder on yourself to lynch him. Hence my town read on you.

Soren is digging in and following through with people more than he would need to as scum.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 10 2015 04:49 GMT
#403
I meant Prplhz isn't doing anything that he couldn't do as scum or town.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 10 2015 05:09 GMT
#406
On April 10 2015 13:58 rsoultin wrote:
mmm i guess it's possible given how little prp's done, tube, but his scum game (see titanic) is horribad...he'd have to have improved his scumgame majorly


It's that bad? I didn't read Titanic. So many games so little time. Man, I have a case of vet worship or something. I think everyone is really good who's played a few games.

Have any reads yet?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 10 2015 05:29 GMT
#412
On April 10 2015 14:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 14:09 Tubesock wrote:
On April 10 2015 13:58 rsoultin wrote:
mmm i guess it's possible given how little prp's done, tube, but his scum game (see titanic) is horribad...he'd have to have improved his scumgame majorly


It's that bad? I didn't read Titanic. So many games so little time. Man, I have a case of vet worship or something. I think everyone is really good who's played a few games.

Have any reads yet?


strong ones? nah

still not liking hts cause she didn't make me want to lynch her from the get-go, but that's kinda shit-tier you know? i just always seem to get her alignment wrong early

prp is prob town

onegu started more try-hard than i'm used to and i don't know what to think about it yet

don't like ace's wall post to sheep bloodydwarf sentiment and say nothing about prp

i have a specific towntell for you that i haven't seen yet lol

hrum...those are the things that stuck out to me, really...i'm focusing on players i know first


I'm batting 30% on guessing HTS alignment. Although, I think that it might be higher if I count her being a ninja in one game as not town. But yeah, I know what you mean.

I think Onegu is funny. I can't tell if he thinks that him claiming VT vs town is actually significant to us or not. My first thoughts about him were why wasn't he claiming mason or miller but then forgot we are in a non tricky game. I don't know what that is called closed/open setup. He is trying harder than my past game with him. Who knows.

Ace's post was a lot of absolutely nothing. Literally was, "don't kill me."

I'm curious about this towntell. Let me know after you see it.

Well, I'm about to pass out. Have to work in the morning.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 10 2015 16:22 GMT
#545
Why am I the only one towning Breshke for his waffling on Dwarf? He has like 4 posts about Dwarf considering his actions. He's showing more indepth digging than a lot of you are. What would mafia!breshke gain from this? I'm missing something here. I have a hard time seeing mafia!Breshke waffling like this.

TheBloodyDwarf: What are your reads? Who is your primary lynch target? You have some time to prove your towniness and you do have some support so it shouldn't be too difficult, you have something like 30 hours left. I'll remove my vote on you, but until you show some reads and critical thinking you are still my likely lynch.

##Unvote
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 10 2015 16:40 GMT
#551
On April 11 2015 01:11 Bourneq wrote:
here comes my reads

Stutters is extremely suspicious too me seeing he has next to no activity in the game what so ever.

I am getting generaly good vibes from Breshke, he has been actively driving the conversation in reasonable directions judging by his filter. I dont like him calling dwarf lynchbait and still sticking with his vote however.

Onegus attitude puzzles me. Saying he is not going to tryhard and just going to try to troll and have fun makes me think; mafia wanting to look town but his other posts have not given me mafia vibes so I am unsure here.

rsoultin is annoying me with his emoticons lol. And calling people retarded is just retarded. Either tryhard mafia or not trying very hard town.

Hts looks really town too me but I thinks he is one of the veterans so she could be playing a really good mafia. I would put my money on town for now.

prpl is looking more and more scum to me. It was resonable to jump on me after my first few comments since they were weak but I have given my reasons and continuing with this crusade makes me belive he is scheming. I am certinatly the easiest target to harras given my inexperiance and poor response at the beginning of day 1.

Plotspot is screaming scum to me but I am looking forward to what he has to say when he gets back from work or whatever his excuse was.

jarjar could be mafia throwing reads about early to get in the good book but at the same time I have not seen enough from him to make any quick judgements so I would not place him in either alignment.

Ace is extremely quiet and this makes me think mafia. If not mafia then a town not contributing. Either way he is high up on lynch list for me untill he makes his voice heard.

Soren333 is looking very town too me. I like his resoning.

I like the few posts from Tubesock but would like to hear more.

I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here.

Boy that took a long time to write up. As for myself I have been playing poorly even if I was scum or town. I have already posted my excuse but at least it has given me some insight into who draws what conclusion from what I have said. Some conclusions are way more reasonable than others.


I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong.

I'm not sure about Onegu either. But I think he's worth keeping around for a couple days as he will likely do something that will town/mafia him.

Rsoultin was caught as scum a few games ago because her emoticon to words ratio was too low, so this cracks me up. Now you're scumming her for too high of a ratio. Ignoring emoticons and her use of the word "retarded" don't you think she's being more productive than most in the game? She's town.

Agree on HTS. She has a few town posts, but again, I'm afraid of her.

Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS. I do think it's weird he's so tunnelled on you. Haven't decided if that's mafia motivated or not. But my next point:

Why is Plotspot SCREAMING scum to you? But you're not articulating it? Stuff like that makes Prplhz think you are scum.

I liked Jarjar's posts too. I've been meaning to ask him if he's still using his algorithm (something I misslynched him for in my only game with him).

Ace needs to step up. His giant posts basically said nothing but "don't kill me". He's my Dwarf alternate. He has a day to bleed town. So far I'm picking from these two.

I've already spoken about the rest.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 10 2015 16:48 GMT
#552
On April 11 2015 01:27 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 01:22 Tubesock wrote:
Why am I the only one towning Breshke for his waffling on Dwarf? He has like 4 posts about Dwarf considering his actions. He's showing more indepth digging than a lot of you are. What would mafia!breshke gain from this? I'm missing something here. I have a hard time seeing mafia!Breshke waffling like this.

TheBloodyDwarf: What are your reads? Who is your primary lynch target? You have some time to prove your towniness and you do have some support so it shouldn't be too difficult, you have something like 30 hours left. I'll remove my vote on you, but until you show some reads and critical thinking you are still my likely lynch.

##Unvote


-sits on tube's head-

i just said that his waffling looked townie; it was his explanation for it that didn't make much sense to me. bresh waffles a lot as town

thoughts on ace?

(bloody is kinda reminding me of my starkingdoms buddies lol who think they can't get any info out of anything but night actions and blue claims xP and just complain about day 1 being a crapshoot)


Oh, I missed that about Breshke. So, we are 2 of the 13 that think he's town for that haha.

Ace had a giant beautiful post of absolutely fluff and bunnies. I felt nice reading it and then realized he didn't actually say anything but "don't kill me". No reads no nothing. He could have written that without even reading the thread.

I'm confused on your thoughts about HTS? What do you mean by Bloody Centric? and that's good? what?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 08:19 GMT
#705
anyone around? I need advice
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 08:46 GMT
#706
So, I have this fascination with trying to read difficult/cryptic players. Players like Alakaslam, Sicklucker, Chezinu, and LightningStrike. It's dumb, but I absolutely love playing with those guys. I fall into big traps though, like finding deep meaning into statements and their word useage and once I think they are scummy I really get into confirmation bias.

I'm really confused on TheBloodyDwarf. He hasn't done a single towny thing yet. He's blatantly ignoring requests for any type of read and isn't helping town at all. I mean it's so anti-town that mafia would at least try to fake something. He's not even doing that. He like doesn't care at all, he's trying to act as scummy as possible it seems.

He made some posts which made me unvote him. At that time I was thinking he was basically softclaiming Vet. I didn't want to pursue anything and I think others were thinking the same thing. It would obviously defeat the purpose of him being vet. While at work i was thinking about him a lot. It just bugged me. A vet would play towny right? The entire point is to make MAFIA shoot you. But then you also have to avoid being lynched. And he's obviously not doing that.

Then my tinfoil hat deflected an alien interrogation beam. TheBloodyDwarf is Godfather. BloodyDwarf comes from SC2 mafia arcade. So it's safe to say he plays SC2. He presumeably found TL mafia from the SC2 forums. He's not dumb, he's probably the more hardcore gamer type. TL Mafia does seem like the harder core version of many versions of mafia I think. So, he's fucking smart. He's not playing poorly at all.

If he is Godfather, he KNOWS the setup. He knows if there is a cop/doc/vigi/vet. The OP says mafia knows. Reread his filter, doesn't it look like he's trying to make people think he's vet? "Don't shoot me" "I hope cop/vigi are guud". Yeah, he wants to make it look like he doesn't really know the setup but is telling the cop to check him so he returns town. He then knows who the cop is and mafia get to kill him. And he is basically confirmed town who gets to live at least another day.

He softs vet knowing people probably won't push him since an outed vet is sooo bad for town. He then doesn't have to act towny. But in order to get cop checked he has to act really scummy so that the cop will check him over other question marks.

Holy shit this is an amazing play. My tinfoils may sound crazy and stupid but holy shit in the 3 games I've finished I nailed at least 2 scum each time. Both were the strong mafia guys (Holyflare and Geript from Carol and Joat).

What other scenario explains how TheBloodyDwarf is playing? The more I think about this the more I believe. Where are the holes in my thinking?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 08:56 GMT
#707
There is risk in this play for sure. He could be straight up lynched. But doesn't softing vet help AND taking advantage of people's general unnease of "easy lynches" or "low-hanging fruit"? You can see it in this game with him. He got 4 votes fairly quickly and people started getting quesy. I unvoted. Breshke said something. Prplhz said "I wish people would stop voting a guy who wants to play mysteriously. It's not scummy."

It fucking worked. People are talking about other stuff and there is ZERO direction. Exactly what mafia wants.

For sweet justice

##Vote: TheBloodyDwarf
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 09:34 GMT
#711
The cop check request:

On April 10 2015 07:51 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 07:48 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote:
i might or might not be scum

any thoughts?

Everybody has little scum inside them.

What the bloody hell does this mean?

Come visit me and I'll show you


Another possible softing to cop check:

On April 10 2015 06:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote:
i might or might not be scum

any thoughts?

Everybody has little scum inside them.


And another:

On April 10 2015 06:23 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 06:22 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote:
i might or might not be scum

any thoughts?

Everybody has little scum inside them.


Ah, then, let me ask this question, how scummy are you?

I dont want to tell you my dirty secrets


This is more interesting. And really instigated my tinfoil. And what I REALLY need feedback on due to my overthinking at times.

On April 10 2015 06:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I hope our cop or vigi is guud. I don't want to die :|


He leaves out doc and vet. This seems to me to be the soft claim. It's retarded I know, but I think the spelling "guud" is absolutely intentional. And:

On April 10 2015 06:47 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 06:46 plotspot wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:44 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:39 prplhz wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:33 prplhz wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:27 prplhz wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I hope our cop or vigi is guud. I don't want to die :|

how do cops and vigis work in sc2 arcade mafia`?

They scout for activity, if no activity they get no info.

If it spot activity it usually says who he visited.

and how exactly will that help you not dying?

well as citizen you are quite fucked up And its pretty much bad luck if you get killed. Doc can heal, Vet blocks, some roles cannot die during nights.

okay but you're talking about cop and vigi, right? you're saying "i hope cop and vigi are good because i don't want to die" and i'm asking you, how exactly can these two roles help you not to die?

They catch criminals before I die


You're afraid of dying. Ok you're confirmed town. LOL OH WAIT. You maybe MAFIA.^^

MINDGAMES MINDGAMES


Maybe overthinking, but damn..."mindgames", "guud". Like it's in the weird obvious but not obvious realm. I think he's mindfucking us. He's goddamn Godfather.

On April 10 2015 16:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Looks like I have to bit explain myself. After reading this I think my posts make more sense.


This is not sc2 arcade mafia.

I thought day 1 is just day for chat. Nothing happens before somebody brings evidency to table. Also I didnt know its insta lynch who gets most votes. So pretty much my day1 posts mean nothing. I felt like everybody is chatting (felt for me) and then suddenly Soren333 starts replying to those chatty posts. I thought it looked really funny and he even asked questions that I answered later but before he asked again.

Also I didnt know that scum means mafia. I realized scum means mafia way way later. "Everybody has little scum inside them" Isn't that just like some IRC chat? like talking to friends? Nobody trying to be serious kind of answer.

Why I voted somebody? Looks like you have to vote everyday or you get kicked out of the game. (again this is not sc2 mafia..). I just voted fearing maybe I forget or don't have time to vote and admins kick me out.


Why fear of death some ask? Well, I want to play this game and not to die? "I hope our cop or vigi is good". Again, I was expecting cop to give some "evidence" to table and then people discuss is that person trustful and can his claims even be possible.

But that's all wrong. Looks like you make your presumption based on chat. With feels quite weird to me now but I am noob playing this mafia for the first time and some here are experts. So I have to see how this works out.

So I think I have time to rethink who to vote so,
##UNVOTE


Like he really really wants that cop check to bring his "evidence" to the table. Like holy shit. Plus, he has done absolutely ZERO scumhunting. He's overtly and covertly trying to get the cop check. That's his entire goal so far.
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