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On March 13 2015 10:44 Holyflare wrote: Hts confirmed alcoholic How can she be a alcoholic Host/Player in Mafia? | ||
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On March 16 2015 09:33 Trfel wrote: You realize that last game I only made a case on Day 1 to make sure I didn't get lynched, right? Why do people think that I always have reads T.T You were scum ofc you had to make sure you weren't getting lynched till I cop checked you lol | ||
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On March 16 2015 11:04 rsoultin wrote: The meta @.@ If people try to metaread me again I may throw a Robik-level fit lol...if I'm even capable of that ^^ All you guys have proven is that you DO NOT KNOW how to metaread me xP I'm sure I can :O | ||
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On March 18 2015 23:59 Holyflare wrote: tempted...maybe Join us you know you want to :O | ||
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On March 19 2015 03:47 Trfel wrote: Ok, let me be mason with LightningStrike, deal? I guess but I would prefer rsoultin to be masoned with me though. | ||
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On March 19 2015 03:59 Half the Sky wrote: Those of you clamouring for certain roles this game, I leave you with this quote from BH in Horn of Africa: Then you need the true RNG God to RNG us the roles instead of you because apparently only BH's RNG is true. | ||
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What? We could have all 3 of us as Masons lol. | ||
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On March 19 2015 04:53 Trfel wrote: I already voted for you. Everyone, vote LightningStrike! Don't let him lynch my scum partner Damdred. To easy man you outed yourself and your partner bravo. Rsoultin if you reading this lynch both of them with fire! | ||
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I need to read the OP a little better I guess. | ||
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Slam is always a confusing player when trying to read him. He's the master of WIFOM as both alignments but there is so little difference between his scum play and town play as far I can tell tbh with you bro. | ||
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On March 19 2015 11:26 Damdred wrote: Sheep me ls vote sl Okay you not done much of a case on sicklucker being scum is it a meta case on him being scum? I just looked in your filter and didn't see much of a case on it tbh with you. Also you were voting FF on meta too. Also you had to use our single remember? | ||
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On March 19 2015 11:29 sicklucker wrote: Hes a really easy mafia read to me. Im not totally sure yet tho. being his mafia partner twice has helped my read on him I was his mafia partner twice (Student IV and JOAT) and I still can't read him for shit if he's mafia or not lol....... | ||
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On March 19 2015 11:30 Eden1892 wrote: no, but you say you can't read him for shit since after Carol when [you] read him right. this implies to me that you read him right in Carol but then for some reason no longer read him right now That because in Carol I had just came from a game where he replaced out when he was my partner (Student IV) but after that I can't find a pattern on his Mafia play compared to his Town play tbh with you due to the fact I townread him for having more motivation or some shit in Carol but I couldn't figure him out after ![]() | ||
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On March 19 2015 11:32 Eden1892 wrote: be a good craftsman and explain your tools then and why they haven't led you to a conclusion yet ^This | ||
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On March 19 2015 11:39 Eden1892 wrote: honestly idk. i feel like my own arguments against him are becoming progressively gotcha-type arguments instead of legit evaluations and that i'm not really being fair i'm probably gonna sit on it for a bit Alright noted. Any other thoughts on other people? | ||
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On March 19 2015 11:44 Eden1892 wrote: rsoultin is town. Damdred, Fecalfeast, Superbia pretty townie so far. Okay I do agree with you on your rsoultin read because she seems so carefree and prob would be mad if she rolled Mafia again vs me lol......... | ||
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On March 19 2015 11:50 Toadesstern wrote: Like everyone's talking about how I'm playing different than I used to last games... no shit I got killed on first cycle like 4 times in a row and lost 4 games in a row now. Last game in particular I feel like I lost because I was trolling too much and didn't get enough out in time which ended in people not lynching Sandroba when he was 100% mafia on my sheet. I needed to be a lot more serious in that game early on and we could have won ![]() Ya you kinda got lynched because Palmars tunneling you that's the thing in Hammertime. Also I can understand a little bit on why you thought you need to be more serious after JOAT but still it just odd playing with a already serious you. | ||
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On March 19 2015 12:00 Toadesstern wrote: I mean if I get mafiaread for being different or more serious than I played in my last couple games there's nothing I can and will say about that other than my occasional banter about how that's not alignment indicative at all unless someone points out how different means scummy... because there's nothing I can say about it. I am playing differently (probably) With that being said, if that's what it's like I'll just ignore everything in that direction from now on and just focus on getting my reads out a little bit earlier than last game and making sure I get them out properly explained. Got angry about Palmar pulling the same shit he did in Hammertime when he should know better and talked myself into a wolf... won't happen again and this is the last post about it. Ya true about Palmar should know better on that but you seemed to taken it more personally o.o Are you still offended by Palmar's thing on you in Hammertime when you both were town? | ||
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On March 19 2015 12:20 Toadesstern wrote: from JoaT: not really offended but annoyed. I thought he was town early on doing it on purpose to start some discussion or get some read from me based on how I'd react if he misreads me again like that, so yeah I got annoyed at the possible idea of having to deal with that again because he might make someone else agree with it... Right know I'm pretty sure he's mafia for keeping at it and knowing that it annoys me. Can some of the guys who think my tone is so awful and completly different this game please go ahead and at least compare that post above with my first post in here instead of just believing all this about how my tone is completly different? Props for nailing it on my seriousness though LS. Because yeah, that did change, just not the thing Palmar and HF mentioned. I don't a see a big tone difference on your entrance to this game compared to JOAT regarding Palmar and I wouldn't blame on you on that because as a Cohost in Hammertime I kinda felt bad and I shoulda warned him on his Kill Toad spam and I didn't if I recalled. Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game. So I saw Palmar and Rayn going at each other and saw Artanis trying to stop it but I remember Artanis so townie in Imperial yet when he lynched Town!Palmar he basically looked pure Mafia (Scum if you prefer to use that term) so I might need to wait on reading him esp because he just rolled Mafia in Student VI which I was coaching the Cop and the Vet and the Cop caught him with a Cop check so ya I going to be careful reading him. Also he got a decent point about a chance that Palmar or Rayn are Mafia and the other town due to their interactions esp Palmar stuff early on about Toad and I not going to make the same mistake I did in Titanic and give a easy townread on Palmar Day 1. I also have yet to play with Mafia!Rayn so I might be a bit bias on him being town compared to Palmar so meh. @Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why? @ExO Where you at on reads considering our past history with each other? | ||
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How is that post so mafia yet I'm Town? | ||
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On March 19 2015 22:56 Damdred wrote: Ls what are your current reads Town: Exo: He seemed to be his normal self some questions but I waiting for him to case someone at some point in the game after playing with him in Newbie LX. rsoultin: She seems to happy to roll Mafia this game I would think she would be Mad at rolling Mafia again esp with me in the game but she seems to be having fun with her posts so far (She rolled Mafia in Horns of Africa and Titanic) Also she died way to early in JOAT because of mean HTS wanting to get rid of her so she wouldn't figure HTS out in JOAT ![]() Holyflare: Some decent questions and plays similar to how he did in Horns when I played with him plus answering a meta point to me about Mafia!Rayn is more useless than Town!Rayn but idk what Rayn post would indicate that he's useless tbh :| Vivax: Vivax is Vivax and that means he just crazy but I think he's trying hard this game and more likely Town than Mafia upon the fact he's trying so hard but he's crazy so meh. Trfel: I finding his entrance odd but who the hell claims Mafia Day 1 except for Damdred in Imperial lol..... He got some decent questions and also can't wait for him to case someone even if he case the hosts (For those who didn't check Mini Mafia Down Under 2 he cased the host and it was funny as hell 10/10 would want him to case a host again). Bill Murray: Asking some decent questions and my first time playing with him and seems to engage with his Mafiaread of Eden and noticing some stuff I don't think others did at the time. Eden1892: Had some trolling stuff early on which I kinda expect from him as Town compared to Mafia with some decent questioning regarding me to rsoultin. Also his filter is much bigger than his filter as Mafia from experience playing with him. Superbia: Much more serious already and already down to business which I think makes him more Town than Mafia knowing in Campus was kinda trolling in Day 1 and was useless in Imperial. Breshke: Short filter but some of his questions ande thoughts to be something I would think he would do as Town more so than Mafia esp his little thing on sicklucker. Null: Damdred: Seems to be a his townie self but I remember he looked so townie yet he was Mafia in Titanic so I need another Day of him being alive to make a good read. Artanis: As I said earlier he looked so Townie in Imperial yet he was Mafia but he also had a bad game as Mafia in Student VI so idk I need some more time to figure him out prob by Day 2 since I know he's a player by reputation being one of the best players in TL Mafia. raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious. Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh. Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him. sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him. Fecalfeast: He not raging about his role with time and idk if it's alignment indicative for him from my experience with him being town :| Sorry for the long wait for my post I was updating it while checking the thread so I wouldn't be so lost and added in info while making the post! | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:35 LightningStrike wrote: Town: Exo: He seemed to be his normal self some questions but I waiting for him to case someone at some point in the game after playing with him in Newbie LX. rsoultin: She seems to happy to roll Mafia this game I would think she would be Mad at rolling Mafia again esp with me in the game but she seems to be having fun with her posts so far (She rolled Mafia in Horns of Africa and Titanic) Also she died way to early in JOAT because of mean HTS wanting to get rid of her so she wouldn't figure HTS out in JOAT ![]() Holyflare: Some decent questions and plays similar to how he did in Horns when I played with him plus answering a meta point to me about Mafia!Rayn is more useless than Town!Rayn but idk what Rayn post would indicate that he's useless tbh :| VisceraEyes: Decent questioning and some of his reactions are what I kinda expected from him as Town. Vivax: Vivax is Vivax and that means he just crazy but I think he's trying hard this game and more likely Town than Mafia upon the fact he's trying so hard but he's crazy so meh. Trfel: I finding his entrance odd but who the hell claims Mafia Day 1 except for Damdred in Imperial lol..... He got some decent questions and also can't wait for him to case someone even if he case the hosts (For those who didn't check Mini Mafia Down Under 2 he cased the host and it was funny as hell 10/10 would want him to case a host again). Bill Murray: Asking some decent questions and my first time playing with him and seems to engage with his Mafiaread of Eden and noticing some stuff I don't think others did at the time. Eden1892: Had some trolling stuff early on which I kinda expect from him as Town compared to Mafia with some decent questioning regarding me to rsoultin. Also his filter is much bigger than his filter as Mafia from experience playing with him. Superbia: Much more serious already and already down to business which I think makes him more Town than Mafia knowing in Campus was kinda trolling in Day 1 and was useless in Imperial. Breshke: Short filter but some of his questions ande thoughts to be something I would think he would do as Town more so than Mafia esp his little thing on sicklucker. Null: Damdred: Seems to be a his townie self but I remember he looked so townie yet he was Mafia in Titanic so I need another Day of him being alive to make a good read. Artanis: As I said earlier he looked so Townie in Imperial yet he was Mafia but he also had a bad game as Mafia in Student VI so idk I need some more time to figure him out prob by Day 2 since I know he's a player by reputation being one of the best players in TL Mafia. raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious. Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh. Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him. sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him. Fecalfeast: He not raging about his role with time and idk if it's alignment indicative for him from my experience with him being town :| Sorry for the long wait for my post I was updating it while checking the thread so I wouldn't be so lost and added in info while making the post! EBWOP: Forgot VE T_ Fixed the post to add him in! | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:38 rsoultin wrote: Lol and we have a town LS folks! -cuddles the LS- (you don't actually have to post about everyone when people ask you for your reads you know xP) (Cuddles) I thought I have to if someone asks me to :O | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:42 rsoultin wrote: no scumreads yet LS? I got a ton of nulls as I said in my post as to why I had them that way. Thoughts on my null reads and where you stand on them? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + I added you on LoL on my Level 6 smurf on NA fyi | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:47 Vivax wrote: Don't swear on anything or rayn's rage meter will go up 1 point I never had a problem with him except for lynching him once in Titanic but that was bad on me O_o | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:54 Palmar wrote: Also I've literally never before seen LS make a list post like that. Lies we had played with each other plenty of times and I made such posts although I keep getting scumread for them though. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [LightningStrike] + Campus Mafia Town Detective Lynched Day 1 Student Mafia IV Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 3 TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells Town Ghost of Christmas Present Survived Night 5 Metal Mini Mafia! Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4 Newbie Mini Mafia LX Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2 New Years Eve Party Mini Mafia Town Vigilante Killed Night 3 Student Mafia V Town Cop Killed Night 2 Linux Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Night 1 Horn of Africa Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 3 Slytherin Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 3 VII Titanic Mini Mafia: I Have a Cunning Plan... Town Vanilla Survived Night 4 Add JOAT for Mafia survived, Office Mini Cop survived too and you got my all my completed games. | ||
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On March 20 2015 00:13 rsoultin wrote: pretty sure damdy had other reasons too but i have to check rayn is eh i want to talk to hf about him, though, cause i feel like my rayn reads are decent and hf can help me figure him out ![]() HF said some things about Rayn earlier what's your take on it? | ||
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On March 20 2015 01:00 rsoultin wrote: nvm found it ^^ hey, LS, i think this time you should sheep me, boyo ![]() also, totes not important but since you asked, eden, yes we've discussed my age before xP 26 + Show Spoiler + It was Bladezzz4 | ||
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On March 20 2015 01:25 Toadesstern wrote: Did you copy & paste that from someone out of Hammertime? Sure as hell feels like it... There were plenty of people who said exactly the same after Palmar ruined the thread... like how I'm fluffy and useless and they expected me to do more and I ended up getting lynched for it, which you know about as a host. I let go of Palmar for a second because SL sounded really bad. If you look at my filter you even see me going back and forth about SL, how I mention that the emoticon read is bullshit because all it does is show that he's an unintential liar no matter of alignment. And if it was unintentional no matter of alignment it's not alignment indicative, it just shows that he's a liar. And a bad player. Seems like lynchbait to me and I apologize for going after him. I should have been smarter than to let myself get fooled by people saying he's stupid and therefore mafia even if it only lasted for about an hour. I got back on Palmar because he's mafia and like I said, I lost the last games because I was too carefree as town and didn't manage to get the weight of my reads explained resulting in people not lynching mafia even after I got killed first cycle like 4 times in a row statint who's mafia and who's not. So yeah, making sure people read it. IF I AM ALREADY DEAD AND YOU'RE READING THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TROUGH MY FILTER AGAIN, MESSAGE FROM THE PAST: LYNCH PALMAR I'LL KICK YOU IN THE DICK POSTGAME IF YOU DON'T I think that should do the trick of making sure what I consider to be important after I flip funny how you mentioned how it's important to look at peoples reasoning and not just at the result just recently. But that doesn't matter if you like the results I take it? Also I know, you're going to call me mafia for "ignoring" Rayn and going after my own read instead. Also I know, you're going to call me mafia for not going after my own reads enough. You've been doing that all game long now even if I showed you that everything Palmar and you said about me is just factually incorrect No need to kick people in the dick I mean even Vegeta didn't deserve such a treatment: But for real how likely you think Palmar is Mafia? | ||
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On March 20 2015 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am confused LS do you scumread me or not? Null leaning Mafia. That why I said I can sheep HF on his thing on you. | ||
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On March 20 2015 03:15 Damdred wrote: LS you just always have to null read me and never town read me even when I think you are town. It makes me sad and makes me want to not call you town puppy ![]() Back to cooking any questions I will answer when i'm back You looked way to townie in Titanic for me to trust my early read on you sorry ![]() | ||
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On March 20 2015 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why am i mafia LS? Your arguing with Palmar wasn't really productive as far I can on what your read on him and you seemed to be angrier than normal too O_o | ||
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On March 20 2015 03:22 Holyflare wrote: omg you guys played league without me ![]() We will play with you when rsoultin wants to play again ![]() | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + No since I forgot what the biggs type test is it been so long ![]() | ||
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On March 20 2015 05:24 Fecalfeast wrote: + Show Spoiler + every time i take a myers briggs with a decent amount of time between them I get a different result and therefore conclude that the test is bullshit I think LightningStrike is scum. His filter reads, to me, like this: LS is having a hard time entering the game but sees someone (superbia) take notice. Lightningstrike posts some replies and simple questions on page 39 to get his activity up before going to bed. His first post after returning is this mess: FIRST, I bolded the parts of the post that could have any relevance to the game. He answered the open question in the post he quoted and then near the end of the post saying artanis made a good point that if one of palmar/rayn is mafia the other is town. NEXT, I put strikethroughs on the parts of the post that are completely irrelevant. The first part is just "rsoultin did something that I don't read one way or the other" which is fluff. The next part is "Palmar and rayn are fighting and artanis is trying to stop them. Artanis looked townie in a game one time but then he looked scummy. Also he rolled scum in a game I was coaching." Completely useless and just there to pad the length of the post. The questions are also a little weird here. The first question asks artanis about palmar and rayn but he just said in his post that he has to be careful reading artanis because of a similar situation where artanis lynched town. The question to ExO is just asking for reads, so why add "considering our past history with eachother" to it? I think it's because he is trying to gauge how well he is fitting his town meta without asking directly. This post. LS is usually the one to find previous games and link them to other people. He is giving HF and artanis menial work to do when they are already talking about rayn's meta and why he is scummy. This does not look like a town LS post at all. his list post gives my cornea damage and I will therefore be skipping it. I will say that I get the impression that he ordered the list first and gave reasons for why later.I also agree wtih this sentiment: Confident that he is mimicking his town meta, he tries to get people to only read him using meta LS just doesn't seem like his normal town self. He hasn't given a town/scum read based on meta from a game he wasn't in. He hasn't found previous games of people and linked them to others. In fact the only person he has linked games for is himself. His posts read like he's trying to force a stream of consciousness when he doesn't have anything to say. Other than that I think there is scum between SL and slam but not both of them. Ugh I been told by Palmar and others to not use meta on people on games I didn't play in (or involved) and trying to do that less tbh. I also been told by others to not just link people games as most people wont click on the links tbh (HTS and Breshke told me that after Horns) and trying to be better on that T_T. I also had asked for HF to give me example posts for comparison from Rayn's past games as Mafia and compared them to this game but he failed to deliver that part but I still waiting on that but I still had listed my reasons for potentially scumreading Rayn this game in my filter. | ||
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On March 20 2015 06:21 Fecalfeast wrote: How did you compile the reads in your list post? I took the time to read people's filters and so that how I came to those reads. | ||
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On March 20 2015 06:24 Fecalfeast wrote: Not all of us have perfect information, bro Can't tell if you are sarcastic or not about Damdred. | ||
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On March 20 2015 06:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: I find it odd you scumread me when you should not scumread me but the you ask holyflare to point out games where i am mafia when you usually look for them yourself to get a read but then you don't ever go look them you jsut sit with holyflare doesn't give me games and still scumread me. does that make sense? I meant having Holyflare give me quotes from your past games as Mafia that is close to your style of play this game compared to your other games that I had played with you. | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:19 LightningStrike wrote: I meant having Holyflare give me quotes from your past games as Mafia that is close to your style of play this game compared to your other games that I had played with you that was all. EBWOP: Added some words to make it a little bit more clear what I was trying to say. | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:26 Palmar wrote: Damdred might actually be mafia. Okay why you think Damdred is Mafia? Just curious that's all. Also I moving FF now to Town even though he got alignment wrong this game again so it not surprising for to have him case me :O | ||
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He didn't give me quotes from your past games when you were Mafia like I was asking him to. He has yet to do that. I guess I will look through your past Mafia games real quick. | ||
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On March 20 2015 08:46 Breshke wrote: Eden I need your opinion on the slam/HF argument thing. It felt like everyone was kind of staying away from it at the time like not interfering. There was people in the thread talking about other things but no one really got super involved with HF and slam. Whereas when someone calls out SL a bunch of people jump onto it. This lead me to the conclusion that Slam and HF are both town and mafia was going to just let that fight continue. But it could also just be a thing where early on peple don't want to interfere in stuff so they can get reads on people. I'm on pg 44 and catching up fast i slept for like 12 hours so feel elss shit should be around more today When you catch up with everything can I have your reads? | ||
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On March 20 2015 08:47 LightningStrike wrote: When you catch up with everything can I have your reads? Also applies to you Trfel ![]() | ||
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On March 20 2015 09:10 Trfel wrote: + Show Spoiler [Fecalfeast] + All these people keep playing league... We should play SC2 sometime. Trfel #642 if you want to add me. + Show Spoiler + I do play SC2 also but I haven't played in forever lol....... | ||
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On March 20 2015 09:08 Alakaslam wrote: Why is rayn under so much fire? Because some of us think he's Mafia. | ||
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On March 20 2015 09:19 rsoultin wrote: lol LS xP if there's something you want to talk about, let me know? slam the man you're giving me the heebie jeebies :/ So you think Slam might be Mafia? Also I going to be gone for a bit (Was playing my sc2 placement match and my computer was being a pain) to go to the store with my Mom because she needs me for some reason T_T So when I come back I will talk to you more Rsoultin about Slam! | ||
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On March 20 2015 10:45 rsoultin wrote: + Show Spoiler + <3 I'm not 100% on palmar, but i liked the way he interacted with me, and lol yes i liked his read on LS >> i'll be good now and let you self-medicate or whatevs lol...you can play league with me? ^^ + Show Spoiler + I want to play league with you if you want to play right now ![]() | ||
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On March 20 2015 10:55 Damdred wrote: LS how sad would you be if we lynched you? I would be so mad I might go full Robik because I really hate being lynch esp for bad reasons like in Campus after I claimed Cop KSC Countercliamed me when he was VT then resides his Counterclaim 10 mins before and I was pissed that I got lynched T_T | ||
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On March 20 2015 11:01 rsoultin wrote: not sure yet? lol it's kind of like a you can't have it both ways sorta deal xP either you're gonna be a goofy slam the man with some good insights but mostly playfulness or you're gonna be a serious slam pushing things. the hf thing looks townie on the surface, but since then when he's returned to the thread it's been a stunningly bland nada xP so i'm sitting on him for the moment So you just going to sit on his head until something happens between and another person? | ||
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On March 20 2015 11:08 rsoultin wrote: lolol yes i'll just sit on his head ![]() Okay. Any other thoughts on others? | ||
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On March 20 2015 11:11 rsoultin wrote: i'd like to hear yours, actually ^^ have any of your reads changed since your list earlier? you can just tell me what has changed and why I had moved Fecalfeast up to Town because he cased me but he's wrong my alignment again which isn't surprising as he gets my alignment wrong on most games I had played with him. | ||
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On March 20 2015 11:13 LightningStrike wrote: I had moved Fecalfeast up to Town because he cased me but he's wrong my alignment again which isn't surprising as he gets my alignment wrong on most games I had played with him. EBWOP: I forgot to add that I don't think Mafia!Fecalfeast would try to case anyone in my eyes. | ||
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On March 20 2015 12:01 Trfel wrote: I saw that Day[9] Funday Monday cannon rush game that you linked once, haha XD Cannon rushing is so old school since the 90s ![]() | ||
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On March 20 2015 13:43 Superbia wrote: What do you think of either of us after these interactions? That's a way more interesting question than the one you posed. Like this literally makes no sense. It's very clear that Eden is now unclear about my alignment and is still evaluating my answers. Eden always jumps with his reads and just asking if he's getting something from it knwoing how he jumps alot as town. | ||
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On March 20 2015 13:44 Breshke wrote: LS who is mafia? If you read my filter I had explained it already but since you didn't read it Rayn is likely mafia despite the anger his talk with Palmar seems to be pointless and he didn't seem to get much out of it from what I had read from the thread. Outside of him I still wobbling trying to figure out which of my nulls are Mafia. | ||
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On March 20 2015 14:01 Breshke wrote: What did palmar get out of it that compared to rayn for you not to scumread him? Also I understand that you are townreading Exo because of meta comparing to his other game. What questions of his have you liked that makes you draw comparisons with another game. Also have any of your nulls changed at all from your last reads post. Even if you are reading some of them town now i'd like to hear it thankyou. Palmar had basically called Rayn Mafia for it. I reading FF town for him casing me which I don't think he would do as MAfia but he's wrong on my alignment again lol.... | ||
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On March 20 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote: Why don't you think ff wouldn't do it as mafia? Because FF never cased someone when he was Mafia as far I know O_o | ||
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Normally I seen you jump a lot on your reads as town O_o | ||
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On March 20 2015 14:16 Eden1892 wrote: ugh. i wish i knew ls's alignment because that question felt mean-spirited of me to ask let me put it another way. what were you looking to learn from asking that question? I was wanting to know if you got something out of it on Superbia's alignment because if you didn't it looks bad in my eyes at least. | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:02 Damdred wrote: You guys don't know how to read LS, if hes scum here it not because of those posts. I'm here for the next hour roughly going to start filter diving and doing some things if anyone has any questions ask me before I get to it. What your thoughts on Artanis and VE's argument right now? | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:22 rsoultin wrote: sweetie pie lovey dove amazing dumb 80%+ accuracy rating is still pretty good lol i also was the main person who caught him and lynched him in his first scum game it's not impossible that he's scum, honestly, but his activity level here is too high for that read and regardless viva's reasons don't make LS scum xP if he falls off over the next day or two i will gladly support an LS lynch but he won't cause he's town ^^ hi town puppy! Hi sweetie pie how are you this morning? | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:29 rsoultin wrote: still waking up dontcha know xP so what does LS think about the artie/ve argument lol I finding the argument between them interesting because of Artanis said he can't be as good as he was in Imperial (Although he played that game really well) and we are over estimating his ability to play as Mafia and the fact that VE is attacking Artanis for having a Null read on him was odd since I had a ton of null reads myself but people don't go after me on them like VE did to Artanis's read on him. | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:38 LightningStrike wrote: Also lol Onegu at least didn't RNG yourself or I would be pissed given our history together lol.......... EBWOP: By pissed I mean I know your town because of your Mason claim with Holyflare being your partner but you shouldn't RNG your sheep though incase you know you RNG yourself ![]() | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Do you have any conclusions in terms of alignment? I thinking your town based on your interactions with VE esp the way you handle VE's stuff. You pretty much tried to tell him you weren't trying to lynch him (which I don't you were seeing you had him null) but he thinks your scum for it is kinda odd but you stayed on your ground. At the same time I think VE lost his mind since Office Mini where I misylnched him over sicklucker that game and I feel bad for lynching him in Office Mini :O | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:52 Damdred wrote: Vivax is actually probably mafia for his filter and interactions in the game. His tone and actions in this game are vastly different from his normal town games even in games where he was scum read its so vastly different that he is probably scum. The first thing I would like to draw your attention to is the activity to which Vivax is putting into the game at this point. The game is roughly 105 pages at this point after 36ish hours (probably 38 hours). Vivax has a filter of 2 1/2 pages discounting pre game discussion about game mechanics. While filter length is not always an indicator of scum, if you compare it to his town games in imperial (not as bad an example as the game is growing at a proportional rate to imperial at this time) or if you compare it to Void (day one in void) you will see the vast difference in how fast and loose Vivax is with his postings. He just doesn't have the same involvement in the game that he normally does as town. This game Vivax takes a sidelines stance on many of the hot topics of the thread or just isn't taking part in it. For example when the slam business is going on Vivax pubically says hes not going to take a stance on it. Instead of taking a stance on the toad Palmar fiasco he just says it was an over reaction without drawing any real conclussions from it. He also has no opinion on rayn during a heated part of the thread, hes really not sticking his neck out or trying to get involved in the thread at the really heated times just really trying to blend in. IE I have Rayn on ice is what he says. His scum hunting at this point is really generic without much push in the thread. When he has somewhat developed a scum read such as on superbia he states it and partially backs off of the read as time goes along. For example he scum reads superbia for a few posts and puts them in the thread but then moves on towards LS after he makes big LS type posts that look pretty easy to pick on. Super is still his strongest scum read and has the most reasoning behind it, when he returns to the thread he drops it over an argument that Super and Eden had over semantics? There were clear inconsitincies in what super was saying and acting in the thread during my interactions with Super and with super and eden. But they were good enough for super to drop his strongest suspect to move on to LS? He has no real focus or push in the thread, his scum reads are pretty haphazard and he lacks the crazy drive that he normally shows as town. If you look in void or in imperial which I've already referenced before, or in Mission mafia he always is pushing people working out the scenerios in the thread driving the thread activity hes just not doing that here. Hes more subdued and letting the thread take its own course while blending in and not getting involved in the heat of the moment battles that are going on. Compare his filter to his scum game in Storm Mafia 2 which I think was his last scum game? And it is pretty similar in length and ability to blend in and drive the thread. Vivax is a good pick for scum here. Only a small correction but Vivax was Mafia in Carol (Ghost of Jacob Marley) but I do agree that he looks similar to how he played Storm (although he had a 7 page filter that game but this is a more active game so he could have a bigger filter since the the amount of pages for this game is going to surpass Storm but still) and Imperial was much more engaging at least the way I felt from reading his first few pages of his filter there and Void I remember him getting his own category for how crazy player is and he isn't being as crazy as he normally was in those games. If your Mafia again great you pocketed me again on a good case since I think it's prob the best case in this game. ##Vote: Vivax | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:17 sicklucker wrote: Im prettty sure vivax was town in carol. like pretty pretty sure Shit I forgot how the colors were in that game my bad. Ya he was town there. | ||
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On March 21 2015 00:15 rsoultin wrote: i've been leaning town on damdy...i liked his explanation when i questioned him about the meta section, which isn't typically part of his cases i like the peripheral point on vivax i'd still lynch rayn and sl over vivax right now, though lol it's pretty much clear if you read my posts since the case dropped xP you have anything to say about it? I liked the case and sheeping his case you should check my post regarding his case :O | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:08 rsoultin wrote: -_- i will lynch you over lightningstrike vivax, in a new york minute do you have a good reason rayn isn't scum? that goes for everyone What is a New York Minute? | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:26 ExO_ wrote: Well I believe out of rayn/Vivax/Toad we have a liar. Question is which one? Rayn claimed Tracker not Vig lol........ | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah this is really weird. Like - he should have no reason to throw rayn in there because no counterclaim to tracker....why would he lump rayn in there with the ones that there LIKELY IS a liar between, Vivax/Toad? Tbh idk because rayn is the unCCed Tracker so he shouldn't be in that list by ExO on possible liers due to again being a unCCed Tracker. | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:52 Superbia wrote: LightningStrike where the fuck you at. I know you're lurking right at this moment. I keeping my vote on Vivax because of Toad's counterclaim like why would Mafia!Toad would ever counterclaim and I going to finish watching the European LCS. | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:56 Superbia wrote: What kind of evaluation is this? Why are you so uninterested in this situation? I was just stating what I got out of it and honestly speaking why would Mafia ever counterclaim a claim that? | ||
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On March 21 2015 06:56 Trfel wrote: Wait, we have claimed masons? Yes Onegu and Holyflare claimed Mason earlier. | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:01 rsoultin wrote: i'm confused o.0 the timer already clicked down to 0 for me lol You should check the op for the timer ![]() | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah you could also explain why you read me scum when you have no reasons for read me scum. this is the angry rayn game. You are all being shit, so this is what you get. why am i scum? You're not with that Tracker claim O_o | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'd say he's about a 6 on the Rayner scale. Wait there is a scale made for him? | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:20 Breshke wrote: I'd be willing to lynch LS aswell simply because i don't feel like he is trying to work out these claims I alreadsy made my conclusion that Vivax is scum and Toad is Town on those claims and Rayn is the unCCed Tracker and we got a pair of masons. Also I going to be gone for EoD as I picking up my dad at the airport but when I come back I will check the results of the lynch and figure out where to go from there on my reads! | ||
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@Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia? @rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax? @Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter? | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:40 rsoultin wrote: my opinion on vivax didn't change much, but i think he may be town regarding the claim for two reasons the claim came late in the day but early enough for everyone to see it, react, and find another good lynch without running around like chickens with their heads cut off (the CC caused that last part) and secondly, the way he started treating toad toward the end and getting frustrated when his reads posts were getting buried. making reads as you're being lynched could be wifom...i've seen it before from mafia but most often from town...however the frustration itself seemed real and he wasn't bothering with screaming to get toad lynched in return why are you scumreading vivax? purely setup speculation or is there anything else? Was that aimed at me? If so it was because of Toad's counterclaimed so quickly to Vivax's Vig claim which I don't think Mafia would ever take a trade of 1 for 1 at all in any scenario because that trade favors Town due to the fact that there is less Mafia members than Town. | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:44 Vivax wrote: ... 1. He pointed out why. 2. He scumreads Toad. 3. He scumreads Toad. Some for you: Do you think HF is fakeclaiming being masoned with ONegu? Where have you been around deadline? Are your only possible scummers these three guys cause BM got lynched and over the course of the game you never found anyone else to suspect? I don't think HF is fakeclaiming being Masoned with Onegu because HF normally doesn't fake claim a role as Town. I was at the airport picking up with my Dad at deadline and was taking him out to eat dinner. Those 3 were the biggest ones I thought of after checking out EoD stuff. There could others I just need to check voting patterns on that. | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:48 Damdred wrote: Hf literally claims a role every game he's not generally.. He didn't claim at Titanic and he only fake counterlclaimed Eden's cop claim when he was Mafia but I don't think he claimed VT in Horns or Void. | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:51 Damdred wrote: We only have 4 claims ls? And mason is a weak pr We got 2 Mason claims 2 Vig claims and 1 Tracker claim and Vig is a very powerful role as it can either take out a Town player or a Mafia player so it's a very swingy role so idk why we would ever have 2 tbh with you. | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:52 rsoultin wrote: ... dude ls most people don't claim VT that's not a normal thing >< not the way you and onegu do anyway At least I only claim it under pressure unlike Onegu :O | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:54 Vivax wrote: I don't see how you're in the position to tell what is overpowered and whatnot given you aren't supposed to know mafia's roles which can be just as strong? I have a good knowledge on how to balance setups but unless Mafia got a roleblocker and a 2 shot vig for themselves idk if we would even have 2 vigs with a Tracker too in the mix. | ||
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On March 21 2015 11:00 rsoultin wrote: you already said vigilantes are swingy - can hit scum or town mafia has at least 2 kp the first two nights assuming no mafia vig according to the OP i don't think it's as huge a stretch as people are saying Shit I did forget about the 2 kp for first 2 nights maybe it's possible after all but very unlikely though with my experience with playing large games. I thought 2 Jail Keepers was bad enough for Town to have in Titanic :O | ||
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On March 21 2015 11:01 Vivax wrote: Mafia has 5 possible roles, I'd guess they have 3 or 4 and 1-2 goons and if one of their roles is a mafia vig it's entirely possible town has two vigs, a tracker and two masons, and the two vigs can just help mafia as well by removing townies so it's more of a neutral role in the hands of town, so I'd also guess that another blue can be in the game. Maybe but what are the chances though? | ||
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On March 21 2015 11:04 rsoultin wrote: eh i'm not sure how much i believe onegu and rayn anyway though i have to admit that maybe rayn does play differently as a blue...i don't see why good players would play differently as blues since that's kind of a dead giveaway, but i suppose it's possible Tbh I don't think I play that different when I'm Blue or VT myself but to be fair I gotten my good share of playing Blues in games lol... | ||
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On March 21 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote: people keep saying onegu and hf but i'm not 100% where that comes from? Onegu said Holyflare was his Partner. | ||
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There is a chance he's scum but not 100% due to the claims situation from yesterday. | ||
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On March 21 2015 21:55 Holyflare wrote: if you thought this then why on earth did you ask me a question about why i wanted to lynch bm!?!?!?!? you should KNOW why i wanted to lynch bm if you think it looked like carol???????????????? I mean the way the lynch looked like the way 27Ninajabunnies lynch in Carol. Also you brought up that he was likely lurky Mafia and sometimes people just have a bad game and BM had a game here regardless of their pregame stuff. | ||
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On March 21 2015 22:21 rsoultin wrote: thanks lol >< i wanted the hard confirmation xP now tell him to get off his lazy ass would you please? lol ^This + Show Spoiler + Holyflare and rsoultin want to play some LoL together? | ||
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On March 21 2015 22:40 Vivax wrote: Exo might be mafia after all I beg a differ he playing his Town meta from Newbie LX you should check his filter from there ;D | ||
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On March 21 2015 22:45 rsoultin wrote: meh his reaction seems over the top to me honestly -snorts at LS- you've never seen his scum game xP this is an example of bad meta...unless you've got very specific reasons to think this makes him town True I never seen his game when he was Mafia. You had played with him on another when he was Mafia care to link me games when he was Mafia when you played with him? | ||
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On March 21 2015 22:46 LightningStrike wrote: True I never seen his game when he was Mafia. You had played with him on another site when he was Mafia care to link me games when he was Mafia when you played with him? EBWOP: Fixed my bad grammar T_T | ||
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On March 21 2015 22:49 Vivax wrote: LS who are your scumreads atm? Palmar and rayn and? Those are my 100% based on the switches there maybe a 1% chance that Holyflare is Mafia with Onegu even though they claimed Mason but that would be dumb for them to claim Mason so early. Rsoultin said that ExO could be potental Mafia and so did you but I never played with Mafia!ExO yet so I can be wong on ExO's alignment (Shrugs). | ||
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On March 21 2015 22:59 Vivax wrote: You are 100 % sure that Palmar and rayn are scum? And the other 3? What about me? 100% one of them is Mafia based on switches alone in my mind at least. HF and Onegu is like 1% Mafia but they were under no pressure to claim Mason. Rayn is the unCCed Tracker idk why he claimed at the time he did but he is the unCCed Tracker. | ||
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On March 22 2015 00:06 Vivax wrote: You still didn't say what you think about me now, cause that's important given that I don't know why you see the switching as scummy. Is it scummy to switch from town to town or from mafia to town? Their reasons for switching is scummy that what I mean -_- Palmar never really mentioned BM in his filter at all and so did Rayn as far I remember reading their filters. | ||
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On March 22 2015 12:30 Trfel wrote: Hi LightningStrike, I truly am sorry about your Grandpa. That is extremely unfortunate. I hope you don't mind being lynched too much, especially since you already said that you didn't want to play this game any more. Ya I'm sorry I rolled Scum on you Trfel and I wish I didn't have to roll scum with you after Student IV ![]() Also thanks for the condolences everyone from the thread! | ||
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On March 22 2015 12:31 Fecalfeast wrote: Sad that LS is sad but happy that I caught him day 1. If you need anything LS feel free to PM me Ya I just couldn't play right because of my Grandpa dieing and the stress coming from that made me feel terrible about not knowing him after being a Toddler (I think I met him when I was 3 according to my Mom) I should of asked to replace out but I wanted to man up for my team ![]() | ||
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On March 22 2015 12:38 Trfel wrote: I tracked you, not Holyflare. That would have been watching Holyflare. To be honest, and this probably isn't going to make you happy, but.... It was a complete and total accident. First I submitted Vivax (as a placeholder), then I changed it to Superbia, then I changed it to you, and then I changed it to VisceraEyes (but that was within 20 minutes of End of Day, so by the rules it didn't count). And I just happened to get the track role (though I suppose a bullet would have done the job as well). Honestly, I didn't see how the rolecheck would be of much use, so I was trying to go for a more outside chance at mafia, one that was more likely to carry KP. You fit as a player who was suspicious, but not overly so, thus a very good chance at carrying KP. A lot of it was based on Damdred's analysis having you as scum, and Superbia's filter not looking that bad to me. So I'm sorry, it was largely an accident. And had it not worked out for me, you guys would be in a much better spot, since I would be an easy mislynch. Damn you accidents T_T | ||
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On March 22 2015 12:39 Trfel wrote: Also, LightningStrike, who is scum? ![]() Everyone ![]() | ||
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On March 24 2015 05:58 Superbia wrote: LS, if you hard defend me here you secure the miss lynch tomorrow. #Protips How to answer this? | ||
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On March 24 2015 06:01 Superbia wrote: You probably shouldn't. You might confirm me as something. Let's keep talking. Would be interested in giving us a theoretical mafia team? I am confirmed Mafia because of my baby seals but why would anyone want to kill cute baby seals? BTW I wont tell you a team ![]() | ||
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On March 24 2015 06:02 LightningStrike wrote: I am confirmed Mafia because of my baby seals but why would anyone want to kill cute baby seals? BTW I wont tell you a team ![]() EBWOP: I mean you guys god my grammar is so bad T_T | ||
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On March 24 2015 06:21 Fecalfeast wrote: anyway LS I listened to your song, now you listen to mine: + Show Spoiler + The song starts at 29 seconds Don't like that song. | ||
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On April 06 2015 09:35 Trfel wrote: Yeah, my apologies. While some parts of my play were good, overall I played a poor game. I will definitely take a break for a while in the hopes of being more effective and more enjoyable to play with once I return. What were the indicators that Toadesstern was mafia? I still don't see the mafia motivation behind his fake-claim. You should read my meta point about Toad's tone in my filter ![]() | ||
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On April 06 2015 12:49 Bill Murray wrote: this is why you lynch all liars and LS was very apparent to me Honestly most people when they play with me for the first time thinks I'm scum regardless of my alignment so I think for my town game I need to work on my Day 1 play. | ||
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On April 06 2015 23:17 Damdred wrote: Ls you are decently easy to find as scum but I still loves you Didn't help irl got me hard EoD 1 and Night 1 area ![]() | ||
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